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Old Mar 2, 2022, 11:19 AM   #1
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Anyone has any idea.I experience anoying coil whine in Metro Exodus:Enchanced Edition.Also there is a little in desktop.

This guy has it on an the sapphire pulse 6800 XT.Is not as bad as this but it is there.
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I am already using dual rails powering the card.



Any other suggestion before i send the card ?
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Looks like a simple fps cap solves it pretty much for most gpus... now I had a PS that had coil whine... no fps cap worked on that.

Swapped it out and been quiet since. Kinda glad my Vega 64 doesnt have any coil whine but its Saphirre so its quality. Never had the issue with gpus actually afaicr.
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Get some head phones and deal with it.

Also next time go with Gigabyte ^_^

I've had GTX 970, RX 580, RX Vega 64 and now a RTX 3080 not one iota of coil whine among them even at high insanely frame rates.
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Looks like a simple fps cap solves it pretty much for most gpus... now I had a PS that had coil whine... no fps cap worked on that.

Swapped it out and been quiet since. Kinda glad my Vega 64 doesnt have any coil whine but its Saphirre so its quality. Never had the issue with gpus actually afaicr.
Last time I had coil whine on a gpu was an MSI 8800GT

Also on top of getting headphones I also recommend a fps cap like pax sez :3
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LOL .... How can you limit FPS on Metro: Exodus ENCHANCED EDITION ... It's already maxing out at 50 fps...I can hear cw in desktop use too..
My old Vega56 Reference design doesn't have coil whine in anything but "game menus"
It's not acceptable but after searching youtube and youtube comments seems it's "normal" with RX6x00 series...Many many people have it and also is very bad on 6900xt...
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Last time I had coil whine on a gpu was an MSI 8800GT

Also on top of getting headphones I also recommend a fps cap like pax sez :3
I already have closed back headphones but is not an acceptable solution.
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It can be caused by the PSU, but it's usually not the culprit.

I had that when I got my R9 Fury. However, in that case the PSU also failed shortly there after(wasn't surprising, the PSU was pretty cold). The replacement PSU,
EVGA SuperNOVA G3 750Watt, didn't make the card produce any coil whine. It also has no whine in it's new home which is using a Seasonic Focus series PSU.
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It can be caused by the PSU, but it's usually not the culprit.

I had that when I got my R9 Fury. However, in that case the PSU also failed shortly there after(wasn't surprising, the PSU was pretty cold). The replacement PSU,
EVGA SuperNOVA G3 750Watt, didn't make the card produce any coil whine. It also has no whine in it's new home which is using a Seasonic Focus series PSU.

My PSU is brand new Seasonic prime 750w gold ...
I have to buy a new PSU now just to check this ?
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No. I'd say in your case, it's likely not your PSU.
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I am reading on AMD reddit that after some months of use of the GPU the coil whine begins to fade away.Hope is the case


Here is a historic post and seems people in the comments actually got results




https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment...series_solved/

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EDIT: After a year, the coil whine is virtually gone. Very hard to hear unless right next to the card.

tl;dr : Just benchmark/stress test on a loop, extensively

Let me state first that I'm a gamer. I use my PC for gaming at 4K, period. Please consider this when I'm presenting my arguments.

I've recently built my first AMD system with a 5800X and a 6900XT. Yeah, the two items your mom, every youtuber, their uncle and their uncles' nephews' dogs have warned you about. I seriously am unable to understand the reasoning behind suggesting cheaper but slower and/or faster(maybe) but more expensive stuff over these.

5800X ? It's pretty obvious that due to it's architecture IT IS the FASTER one for gaming (CCX, CCD, IF, OMGWTFBBQ) So why 5900X ? 6800X runs hot? Not anywhere near my old 6900K. For the GPU, 6900XT is the fastest card of the three. I need every bit of extra FPS on 4K. So why 6800XT?

Also, if price/performance is your point, then I already saved money by buying a 5800X instead of a 5900X. You want me to save more with a 5600X by sacrificing performance? Why? 5700X does not exist. And if it did it will still be slower than a 5800X. This argument is illogical. I was going to buy a 3090. I'm very glad I bought a 6900XT. It may be more expensive than a 6800XT but it is mostly at 3090 levels of performance for 1000 dollars less !

Enough of my rant. I will now return to the main issue. My XFX 6900XT (reference design) has coil whine from hell. It's practically singing. I have a Thermaltake core X71 so it is by no means an open case. Believe me when I say it's LOUD. No it's not because of my Corsair AX1500i. No, I don't use headphones. It's so bad that even while browsing the web it buzzes when I scroll a page. Unbelievable. I do not want to return it because I already walked through hell to find one. God knows when (and if) I would get a replacement. So I remembered that all my past radeon cards (9500 PRO, 9700 PRO, X850XT, X1900XTX) had some kind of a quality control issue, especially with power delivery. And I was a technician back in the day at an automobile sound system company. What opens up virgin coils like a champ? Sustained heat and current.

So I got to work. I installed everything from 3dmark 03/06 to firestrike extreme (because I wanted tthe card to sing every frequency it can) and benchmarked. For 24 hours straight. And this morning, I found out I no longer have coil whine in windows applications. For games, it's still there. But noticeably better.

So I suggest everyone having coil whine issues to at least give this a try.
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I am reading on AMD reddit that after some months of use of the GPU the coil whine begins to fade away.Hope is the case


Here is a historic post and seems people in the comments actually got results




https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment...series_solved/
that is just your hearing getting burned out to that frequency of noise
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Some other advices for people that are sensible to it....

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Here are a couple things to try which in the past has occasionally stopped or reduced coil whine for me:

Try changing the power target and/or core voltage. A slight change in the behavior of the VRM can sometimes prevent the coils from hitting resonant frequencies.

If you're running any kind of speaker or headphone amp on the same circuit as your PC, a ground loop or dirty power can exacerbate and/or cause coil whine. If you can, try running the PC on another circuit. If you can't, at least try putting the PC on it's own surge protector/power strip separate from any other potentially electrically noisy devices.

If your PSU is modular, try changing swapping the ports your devices are plugged into, including the PCI-E cables. Also try unplugging any devices you don't need to boot and test again.

If your BIOS has an option for VRM spread spectrum, try enabling it.

Try unplugging your bottom two fans and testing without them. It's possible the coils are resonating with the EMI from the fans.

Download Furmark and repeatedly start and stop the test over the course of a few minutes. If you hit the coil with enough transience and inrush a bunch of times, it's possible to use thermal expansion/contraction to "massage" the coil into a different resonant frequency.
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I wanted to replace the Sapphire with MSI gaming trio X because it's a more premium brand and model.
Guru3d reviewed the MSI 6800xt gaming trio x model and is reporting coil whine too.

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_page...review,35.html

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The MSI Gaming X card, much like any other card these days, does exhibit coil squeal, moderate amounts of it, and we started noticing it once we passed 150 FPS in games. Is it annoying? It's at a level you can hear it for sure. In a closed chassis, that noise would fade away in the background. However, with an open chassis, you can hear coil whine/squeal. Graphics cards all make this in some form, especially at high framerates; this can be perceived. So at 33~34 DBa, we could not hear the fans, but some coil whine was definitely there (depending on the game title).
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Buildzoid made an educational video about inductorstechnical stuff regarding coil whine.The next generations from Nvidia with very high wattage will be a big candidate for big coil whine...Prepare yourselfs.

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