Announcemnt, & Talking about, FSR Thread - Page 3

Nunz · Jul 17, 2021, 12:48 PM

Ah gotcha, thought you meant 4K Native.

I agree, if this will be the standard and not the exception (which it currently is) then yeah, FSR could be off to a very good start. Hopefully other games can be as impressive as this one.

Mangler · Jul 17, 2021, 04:34 PM

IMO, if FSR ultra quality can look good enough compared to native 4k, then it is good enough for me.

NIGELG · Jul 17, 2021, 06:32 PM

I love how AMD never gives up and how it is never a good idea to underestimate them or write them off.

I look forward to a game where I can compare both technologies.

kboye · Jul 19, 2021, 07:28 PM

I'm surprised FSR doing so well compared to DLSS given that it only seems to work off that one frame (no frame motion/vector reconstruction) as part of the pipeline before UI if I understand it correctly? Would....seriously.... love to see it work across multiple frames/temporal.

**Trunks0** · Jul 28, 2021, 01:55 PM

Mean while in Linux land, they have managed to get FSR to work on almost anything through Steam & Proton ... o_o

https://wccftech.com/amd-fsr-can-be-...rotons-fshack/

So PAX already posted the video of Cyberpunk 2077 with FSR in the other thread but I wanted to post it here. Also here's another video of it being used in Forza.

I have to wonder if AMD might soon give this feature driver side. Because being able to do this in almost any game Linux side is pretty insanely awesome.

p.s. Also going to make the Steam deck even more awesome

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pax · Jul 28, 2021, 05:00 PM

I dont run linux so does it run driver side irrelevant of the game? I dont think they have option ingame in CP2077... so every game on proton? Thats amazing...

**Trunks0** · Jul 28, 2021, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pax

I dont run linux so does it run driver side irrelevant of the game? I dont think they have option ingame in CP2077... so every game on proton? Thats amazing...

This guy explains it.

Warframe using the same method.

Tweet from "GloriousEggroll" showing screens of it being used with The Witcher 3...
https://twitter.com/GloriousEggroll/...28974565269509

**Trunks0** · Jul 29, 2021, 12:03 PM

Same guy who did the Cyberpunk comparison. Now in Red Dead Redemption 2

pax · Jul 29, 2021, 09:24 PM

Insane... Windows needs to up its game and run the darn thing from the driver.

**Trunks0** · Aug 1, 2021, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pax

Insane... Windows needs to up its game and run the darn thing from the driver.

Got me thinking that based on the proton style hack... it should be pretty easy to code a windows program that takes a windowed game and upscales it to borderless fullscreen using FSR...

pax · Aug 1, 2021, 12:41 AM

Im just wondering if using this general approach they might lose something due to optimization for a given game by a dev...

**Trunks0** · Aug 1, 2021, 02:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pax

Im just wondering if using this general approach they might lose something due to optimization for a given game by a dev...

It wouldn't be perfect, but the results would be very similar to whats happening with the Proton FSHack in Linux and those results look awesome.

kboye · Aug 1, 2021, 10:55 AM

I'm just guessing here, but ideally you want scaling processed before UI and text to remain sharp, and a generic enabler would have no way of knowing which step/layer index to do that from other than doing it on the very last composited frame. Right? That's not ideal

Doing it at the right step is kinda half the effect.

**Trunks0** · Aug 1, 2021, 01:10 PM

True. But look at the results in Linux. Still looks pretty stellar.

LordHawkwind · Aug 1, 2021, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trunks0

True. But look at the results in Linux. Still looks pretty stellar.

I've got a KFA2 3090 SG do I need it?

Nunz · Aug 1, 2021, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordHawkwind

I've got a KFA2 3090 SG do I need it?

**Trunks0** · Aug 1, 2021, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LordHawkwind

I've got a KFA2 3090 SG do I need it?

Hehe I don't know Lordhawkwind, as your on a top tier GPU. Things like DLSS and FSR are really designed for situations where you can't get the framerate you need/want. So I can't remember what your running for a display. But I'd hazard a guess your probably sitting just fine with a 3090.

**Trunks0** · Aug 3, 2021, 02:12 AM

Look at FSR in Chernobylite comparisons

demo · Aug 3, 2021, 04:11 AM

Due to youtube compression I couldn't tell the difference at first, but at 300% zoom (!) gen5 TAA clearly (pun) looks the best. That said, TAA gen5 with FSR looked fine in the video, even at 300% it was OK, and I'd happily use that for gameplay.

edit/ I think the key to a good FSR implementation is a good AA foundation to work with.

**Trunks0** · Aug 3, 2021, 03:33 PM

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/993090

And looks like someone did pretty much what I was thinking for Windows. Shame it's payware.

Nagorak · Aug 3, 2021, 04:31 PM

To be fair it's only $5 and if it encourages the dev to keep it updated it may be worth the expense.

**Trunks0** · Aug 3, 2021, 05:50 PM

Ok bought it, as it about the price of a burger from McDonalds. Seems to work sorta alright... but it seems to also apply a pretty heavy Radeon CAS sharpen pass that I can't disable.

Oh well, I'll keep the program to see how this improves. At the moment, I wouldn't recommend it just for the FSR functionality.

Nagorak · Aug 5, 2021, 09:04 PM

It looks like there's a free program that does the same thing called Magpie. https://github.com/Blinue/Magpie/releases

I've tried it in a couple of games just for the hell of it. So far, I've tried Control and Doom Eternal. It looks pretty good actually but performance doesn't seem that great. Doom Eternal I was actually getting lower FPS, but I was already hitting my frame rate cap at native 1440P, so maybe it's a situation where I have plenty of GPU processing power so the extra CPU overhead actually holds me back. Either that or it just wasn't working properly.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trunks0

Ok bought it, as it about the price of a burger from McDonalds. Seems to work sorta alright... but it seems to also apply a pretty heavy Radeon CAS sharpen pass that I can't disable.

Oh well, I'll keep the program to see how this improves. At the moment, I wouldn't recommend it just for the FSR functionality.

If you're unsatisfied with the program and within the two hour window, you could still request a refund.

**Trunks0** · Aug 13, 2021, 06:38 PM

Bero Tech has made a couple more comparisons through the Linux hack

Arkham Knight

Assassin's Creed Odyssey

The Witcher 3

The Ascent

**Trunks0** · Oct 18, 2021, 07:55 PM

Here's some comparison shots I took using Mafia: Definitive Edition. This was using Lossless Scaling 1.5.7, with sharpness at 1. I took the screen shots using the built in screen cap feature in the Radeon drivers. Imgur compressed the hell out of the images, but it works. I also noticed the frame rate jump 10fps in each shot

3840x1080 - Native no FSR

3200x900 - FSR using the Lossless Scaling app

2956x832 - FSR using the Lossless Scaling app

You can really see how it's effecting the map circle especially on the stairs. Another good spot is the fine wire and building details lines above the "Lost Haven" poster and the fire escape. Still over all, looks pretty great in this game.

**Trunks0** · Oct 20, 2021, 03:22 AM

Also posted these in the Red Dead Redemption 2 thread. But they make sense here as well. Not sure why RDR2 changed the FOV on me when I switched resolutions, really odd behaviour. Also the Radeon overlay wasn't working properly once FSR'ed so I couldn't see the FPS.

3840x1080 - Native

3200x1080 - FSR through Lossless Scaling

2956x832 - FSR through Lossless Scaling

I didn't go to each setting and max it out. But I was running the game preset at the highest available. Was perfectly playable without FSR, but it was an extra bit smoother feeling with it on.

**Trunks0** · Oct 20, 2021, 05:13 AM

Another batch. Got the steam overlay working this time. But still doing that odd fov change. Now I can see the FPS gain is pretty low, but it could be very helpful in a heavier scene.

3840x1080 - Native

3200x900 - FSR

2956x832 - FSR

SubCog · Oct 22, 2021, 03:14 PM

**Trunks0** · Oct 22, 2021, 06:15 PM

That's an awesome use case for FSR

**Trunks0** · Jan 12, 2022, 08:29 PM

um... is it me or is FSR looking kinda awesome in God of War? Little soft, but so is the native image and nothing RIS couldn't easily solve with a light application.

https://www.dsogaming.com/pc-perform...s-comparisons/

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Jul 17, 2021, 06:32 PM	#63
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Jul 19, 2021, 07:28 PM	#64
kboye 9700PRO RIP Join Date: May 2003 Location: Norway Posts: 1,705	I'm surprised FSR doing so well compared to DLSS given that it only seems to work off that one frame (no frame motion/vector reconstruction) as part of the pipeline before UI if I understand it correctly? Would....seriously.... love to see it work across multiple frames/temporal. __________________ - I miss seing Dawn on my Eizo T965 21" CRT with ATi 9700 PRO. RIP. Last edited by kboye : Jul 20, 2021 at 04:39 AM.

Jul 28, 2021, 01:55 PM	#65
Trunks0 Keeping an open mind Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada Posts: 21,337	Mean while in Linux land, they have managed to get FSR to work on almost anything through Steam & Proton ... o_o https://wccftech.com/amd-fsr-can-be-...rotons-fshack/ So PAX already posted the video of Cyberpunk 2077 with FSR in the other thread but I wanted to post it here. Also here's another video of it being used in Forza. I have to wonder if AMD might soon give this feature driver side. Because being able to do this in almost any game Linux side is pretty insanely awesome. p.s. Also going to make the Steam deck even more awesome . __________________ -Trunks0 not speaking for all and if I am wrong I never said it. (plz note that is meant as a joke) System: Asus TUF Gaming X570-Pro - AMD Ryzen 7 5800x - Noctua NH-D15S chromax.Black - 32gb of G.Skill Trident Z NEO - Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD±RW - Samsung 850 Evo 250Gib - 4TiB Seagate - XFX MERC 308 Radeon RX 6600XT - Creative AE-5 Plus - Windows 10 64-bit

Jul 17, 2021, 04:34 PM	#62
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Jul 28, 2021, 05:00 PM	#66
pax Rage3D Spammer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Grand Falls, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 30,172	I dont run linux so does it run driver side irrelevant of the game? I dont think they have option ingame in CP2077... so every game on proton? Thats amazing... __________________

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Jul 29, 2021, 12:03 PM	#68
Trunks0 Keeping an open mind Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada Posts: 21,337	Same guy who did the Cyberpunk comparison. Now in Red Dead Redemption 2 __________________ -Trunks0 not speaking for all and if I am wrong I never said it. (plz note that is meant as a joke) System: Asus TUF Gaming X570-Pro - AMD Ryzen 7 5800x - Noctua NH-D15S chromax.Black - 32gb of G.Skill Trident Z NEO - Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD±RW - Samsung 850 Evo 250Gib - 4TiB Seagate - XFX MERC 308 Radeon RX 6600XT - Creative AE-5 Plus - Windows 10 64-bit

Jul 29, 2021, 09:24 PM	#69
pax Rage3D Spammer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Grand Falls, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 30,172	Insane... Windows needs to up its game and run the darn thing from the driver. __________________

Aug 1, 2021, 12:41 AM	#71
pax Rage3D Spammer Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Grand Falls, New Brunswick, Canada Posts: 30,172	Im just wondering if using this general approach they might lose something due to optimization for a given game by a dev... __________________

Aug 1, 2021, 10:55 AM	#73
kboye 9700PRO RIP Join Date: May 2003 Location: Norway Posts: 1,705	I'm just guessing here, but ideally you want scaling processed before UI and text to remain sharp, and a generic enabler would have no way of knowing which step/layer index to do that from other than doing it on the very last composited frame. Right? That's not ideal Doing it at the right step is kinda half the effect. __________________ - I miss seing Dawn on my Eizo T965 21" CRT with ATi 9700 PRO. RIP.

Aug 1, 2021, 01:10 PM	#74
Trunks0 Keeping an open mind Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada Posts: 21,337	True. But look at the results in Linux. Still looks pretty stellar. __________________ -Trunks0 not speaking for all and if I am wrong I never said it. (plz note that is meant as a joke) System: Asus TUF Gaming X570-Pro - AMD Ryzen 7 5800x - Noctua NH-D15S chromax.Black - 32gb of G.Skill Trident Z NEO - Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD±RW - Samsung 850 Evo 250Gib - 4TiB Seagate - XFX MERC 308 Radeon RX 6600XT - Creative AE-5 Plus - Windows 10 64-bit

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Aug 3, 2021, 02:12 AM	#78
Trunks0 Keeping an open mind Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada Posts: 21,337	Look at FSR in Chernobylite comparisons __________________ -Trunks0 not speaking for all and if I am wrong I never said it. (plz note that is meant as a joke) System: Asus TUF Gaming X570-Pro - AMD Ryzen 7 5800x - Noctua NH-D15S chromax.Black - 32gb of G.Skill Trident Z NEO - Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD±RW - Samsung 850 Evo 250Gib - 4TiB Seagate - XFX MERC 308 Radeon RX 6600XT - Creative AE-5 Plus - Windows 10 64-bit

Aug 3, 2021, 04:11 AM	#79
demo space cadet Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Melbourne Posts: 28,123	Due to youtube compression I couldn't tell the difference at first, but at 300% zoom (!) gen5 TAA clearly (pun) looks the best. That said, TAA gen5 with FSR looked fine in the video, even at 300% it was OK, and I'd happily use that for gameplay. edit/ I think the key to a good FSR implementation is a good AA foundation to work with. __________________ ____________________ Last edited by demo : Aug 3, 2021 at 04:21 AM.

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Aug 3, 2021, 03:33 PM	#80
Trunks0 Keeping an open mind Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada Posts: 21,337	https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/993090 And looks like someone did pretty much what I was thinking for Windows. Shame it's payware. __________________ -Trunks0 not speaking for all and if I am wrong I never said it. (plz note that is meant as a joke) System: Asus TUF Gaming X570-Pro - AMD Ryzen 7 5800x - Noctua NH-D15S chromax.Black - 32gb of G.Skill Trident Z NEO - Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD±RW - Samsung 850 Evo 250Gib - 4TiB Seagate - XFX MERC 308 Radeon RX 6600XT - Creative AE-5 Plus - Windows 10 64-bit

Aug 3, 2021, 04:31 PM	#81
Nagorak Incarnation of the Nether Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Amanackia Posts: 12,174	To be fair it's only $5 and if it encourages the dev to keep it updated it may be worth the expense.

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Aug 3, 2021, 05:50 PM	#82
Trunks0 Keeping an open mind Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada Posts: 21,337	Ok bought it, as it about the price of a burger from McDonalds. Seems to work sorta alright... but it seems to also apply a pretty heavy Radeon CAS sharpen pass that I can't disable. Oh well, I'll keep the program to see how this improves. At the moment, I wouldn't recommend it just for the FSR functionality. __________________ -Trunks0 not speaking for all and if I am wrong I never said it. (plz note that is meant as a joke) System: Asus TUF Gaming X570-Pro - AMD Ryzen 7 5800x - Noctua NH-D15S chromax.Black - 32gb of G.Skill Trident Z NEO - Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD±RW - Samsung 850 Evo 250Gib - 4TiB Seagate - XFX MERC 308 Radeon RX 6600XT - Creative AE-5 Plus - Windows 10 64-bit

Aug 13, 2021, 06:38 PM	#84
Trunks0 Keeping an open mind Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada Posts: 21,337	Bero Tech has made a couple more comparisons through the Linux hack Arkham Knight Assassin's Creed Odyssey The Witcher 3 The Ascent __________________ -Trunks0 not speaking for all and if I am wrong I never said it. (plz note that is meant as a joke) System: Asus TUF Gaming X570-Pro - AMD Ryzen 7 5800x - Noctua NH-D15S chromax.Black - 32gb of G.Skill Trident Z NEO - Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD±RW - Samsung 850 Evo 250Gib - 4TiB Seagate - XFX MERC 308 Radeon RX 6600XT - Creative AE-5 Plus - Windows 10 64-bit

Oct 18, 2021, 07:55 PM	#85
Trunks0 Keeping an open mind Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada Posts: 21,337	Here's some comparison shots I took using Mafia: Definitive Edition. This was using Lossless Scaling 1.5.7, with sharpness at 1. I took the screen shots using the built in screen cap feature in the Radeon drivers. Imgur compressed the hell out of the images, but it works. I also noticed the frame rate jump 10fps in each shot 3840x1080 - Native no FSR 3200x900 - FSR using the Lossless Scaling app 2956x832 - FSR using the Lossless Scaling app You can really see how it's effecting the map circle especially on the stairs. Another good spot is the fine wire and building details lines above the "Lost Haven" poster and the fire escape. Still over all, looks pretty great in this game. __________________ -Trunks0 not speaking for all and if I am wrong I never said it. (plz note that is meant as a joke) System: Asus TUF Gaming X570-Pro - AMD Ryzen 7 5800x - Noctua NH-D15S chromax.Black - 32gb of G.Skill Trident Z NEO - Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD±RW - Samsung 850 Evo 250Gib - 4TiB Seagate - XFX MERC 308 Radeon RX 6600XT - Creative AE-5 Plus - Windows 10 64-bit

Oct 20, 2021, 03:22 AM	#86
Trunks0 Keeping an open mind Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada Posts: 21,337	Also posted these in the Red Dead Redemption 2 thread. But they make sense here as well. Not sure why RDR2 changed the FOV on me when I switched resolutions, really odd behaviour. Also the Radeon overlay wasn't working properly once FSR'ed so I couldn't see the FPS. 3840x1080 - Native 3200x1080 - FSR through Lossless Scaling 2956x832 - FSR through Lossless Scaling I didn't go to each setting and max it out. But I was running the game preset at the highest available. Was perfectly playable without FSR, but it was an extra bit smoother feeling with it on. __________________ -Trunks0 not speaking for all and if I am wrong I never said it. (plz note that is meant as a joke) System: Asus TUF Gaming X570-Pro - AMD Ryzen 7 5800x - Noctua NH-D15S chromax.Black - 32gb of G.Skill Trident Z NEO - Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD±RW - Samsung 850 Evo 250Gib - 4TiB Seagate - XFX MERC 308 Radeon RX 6600XT - Creative AE-5 Plus - Windows 10 64-bit

Oct 20, 2021, 05:13 AM	#87
Trunks0 Keeping an open mind Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada Posts: 21,337	Another batch. Got the steam overlay working this time. But still doing that odd fov change. Now I can see the FPS gain is pretty low, but it could be very helpful in a heavier scene. 3840x1080 - Native 3200x900 - FSR 2956x832 - FSR __________________ -Trunks0 not speaking for all and if I am wrong I never said it. (plz note that is meant as a joke) System: Asus TUF Gaming X570-Pro - AMD Ryzen 7 5800x - Noctua NH-D15S chromax.Black - 32gb of G.Skill Trident Z NEO - Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD±RW - Samsung 850 Evo 250Gib - 4TiB Seagate - XFX MERC 308 Radeon RX 6600XT - Creative AE-5 Plus - Windows 10 64-bit

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Oct 22, 2021, 06:15 PM	#89
Trunks0 Keeping an open mind Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada Posts: 21,337	That's an awesome use case for FSR __________________ -Trunks0 not speaking for all and if I am wrong I never said it. (plz note that is meant as a joke) System: Asus TUF Gaming X570-Pro - AMD Ryzen 7 5800x - Noctua NH-D15S chromax.Black - 32gb of G.Skill Trident Z NEO - Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD±RW - Samsung 850 Evo 250Gib - 4TiB Seagate - XFX MERC 308 Radeon RX 6600XT - Creative AE-5 Plus - Windows 10 64-bit

Jan 12, 2022, 08:29 PM	#90
Trunks0 Keeping an open mind Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada Posts: 21,337	um... is it me or is FSR looking kinda awesome in God of War? Little soft, but so is the native image and nothing RIS couldn't easily solve with a light application. https://www.dsogaming.com/pc-perform...s-comparisons/ __________________ -Trunks0 not speaking for all and if I am wrong I never said it. (plz note that is meant as a joke) System: Asus TUF Gaming X570-Pro - AMD Ryzen 7 5800x - Noctua NH-D15S chromax.Black - 32gb of G.Skill Trident Z NEO - Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD±RW - Samsung 850 Evo 250Gib - 4TiB Seagate - XFX MERC 308 Radeon RX 6600XT - Creative AE-5 Plus - Windows 10 64-bit

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