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Old Sep 12, 2021, 06:34 PM   #181
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Wrong! You seem to forget the 2000 series, exactly why I skipped it. Your thinking about KAC. Hell I’m using an HD7970 to play pinball lately more then using my 3080.
now you did it now he will want you to sell it

I still got two watercooled ASUS HD 7970 DirectCU II's around here somewhere and their two watercooled mates asus gtx 680 directcu ii's
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and i'm using a 380x on a threadripper system
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Old Sep 12, 2021, 07:22 PM   #182
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now you did it now he will want you to sell it

I still got two watercooled ASUS HD 7970 DirectCU II's around here somewhere and their two watercooled mates asus gtx 680 directcu ii's
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and i'm using a 380x on a threadripper system
since I gave away my 1080 ti Strix to my sister
With how prices are now I should have kept my 1080 Ti. Could have got double for it then what I sold it for. Probably would have kept it and put it in my pinball pc, although I’m surprised how well a 10 year old card plays FX3 at 1080P
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Old Sep 12, 2021, 08:35 PM   #183
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If they go back to 2080 series pricing, and it's nothing less than a 50% increase across the board. They can go on, and get the hell on. Didn't buy it then, and won't buy it now.
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Old Sep 12, 2021, 09:35 PM   #184
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I will only buy if price is less than a $1000.
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Old Sep 13, 2021, 07:38 AM   #185
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hehe, 1070 in my pincab still. All hail DOF!

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bahahahahahaha,
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Old Sep 13, 2021, 08:42 AM   #187
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Old Sep 13, 2021, 09:57 AM   #188
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Cool, are games going to regress in graphics quality as well now that video cards are?
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Wrong! You seem to forget the 2000 series, exactly why I skipped it. Your thinking about KAC. Hell I’m using an HD7970 to play pinball lately more then using my 3080.
Let the 3080 slide to me .... P
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Let the 3080 slide to me .... P
No sir, looks like this thing is going to have an extended stay in my computer if the prices of the next gen turn out to be true.
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Old Sep 13, 2021, 03:31 PM   #191
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Yeah, that was funny.
KAC the comedian!
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I think it is a Q1 release for sure.
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I think it is a Q1 release for sure.

Is pointless release if one need to sell a kidney to buy it...
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1 year from now, the release will be!
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For nV yes, Sep-Oct of '22.
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Really? Maybe announced Q3 2022 and you might be able to buy one sometime late 2023 if you're lucky
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I can't buy that, how are you supposed to cool that with a regular heatsink?
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I can't buy that, how are you supposed to cool that with a regular heatsink?
It would need its own power supply too.
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I can't buy that, how are you supposed to cool that with a regular heatsink?
it's going to need water .

if it is 700 watts for the normal NV 35% they can keep it

and most likely still samsung
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If the 700w rumor turns out to be true then it's just getting ridiculous. That's close to half the power of a standard electric space heater. Even a 1000w PSU might not be enough once you include the CPU power draw and potential transient spikes.
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1000watt would not be enough if the GPU drew 700watt on its own, but I'm sure plenty of idiots would try it.

700watt is pretty insane, but if the performance scales with it, then I don't care. Big issue with Ampere is that the performance really doesn't scale beyond 400-450watt - there are minimal gains up to 600watt. This is why we run water-cooling.. I would probably consider an external MO-RA rad though as 2 internal 360mm would get pummeled by a 700watt load.

I don't think it's Samsung, though. Could have sworn we had reports that they finalized TSMC for the next two generations.
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1000watt would not be enough if the GPU drew 700watt on its own, but I'm sure plenty of idiots would try it.

700watt is pretty insane, but if the performance scales with it, then I don't care. Big issue with Ampere is that the performance really doesn't scale beyond 400-450watt - there are minimal gains up to 600watt. This is why we run water-cooling.. I would probably consider an external MO-RA rad though as 2 internal 360mm would get pummeled by a 700watt load.

I don't think it's Samsung, though. Could have sworn we had reports that they finalized TSMC for the next two generations.
i only saw the next not the next two

and at this time last time it was TSMC it's always TSMC till it's not

TSMC could be just wishfull thinking of the rumour mongers and that is what everyone wants to hear
but i wouldn't think TSMC would be 700 watts

going from Samsung 8nm to TSMC 5nm they should be able to get 50% at the same power or less
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I don't think it'll be 5nm. I think that's for the generation after Lovelace. I believe it's 7nm EUV.

700watt is possible on a GPU since the chip is so large .. if there's enough **** packed in on the die between compute/tensor/RTX cores, I think it could very well be true.

I don't think it'll be 700watts, though. I think 500-550 for the top-end cards from AIBs, and likely utilizing at least one 12-pin connector for all cards now instead of 3-4 8pins.
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I don't think it'll be 5nm. I think that's for the generation after Lovelace. I believe it's 7nm EUV.

700watt is possible on a GPU since the chip is so large .. if there's enough **** packed in on the die between compute/tensor/RTX cores, I think it could very well be true.

I don't think it'll be 700watts, though. I think 500-550 for the top-end cards from AIBs, and likely utilizing at least one 12-pin connector for all cards now instead of 3-4 8pins.
AMD RDNA 3 is 5nm they say that would put NV at three big disadvantages
larger prosess and not MCM and a chip that big will have a low yields
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AMD RDNA 3 is 5nm they say that would put NV at three big disadvantages
larger prosess and not MCM and a chip that big will have a low yields
On a more mature process though.
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NV was on a significant node disadvantage with Samsung .. doesn't seem to have mattered.

You think MCM is a raw advantage .. but I don't think it is, at least not the first generation.
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NV was on a significant node disadvantage with Samsung .. doesn't seem to have mattered.

You think MCM is a raw advantage .. but I don't think it is, at least not the first generation.
at watts no most likely not AMD's 7900 xt will be 700+ watts also
but if it is 3x over a 6900 xt like they say or even 2x the performance will be there

but that MCM package will be very big and spread out like threadripper size or bigger more surface area for cooler contact and the heat not all in one spot
it is still going to need water in the end no matter if it come with air but air cooling is over i think

at these wattages AIO & full water block cards only
you would need a 4 slot card with a turboprop to cool 700+ watt cards

now my alphacool monsta 560mm will do it

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at these wattages AIO & full water block cards only
you would need a 4 slot card with a turboprop to cool 700+ watt cards
Agreed, will they come water cooled from factory? If so prices start at what 2K?
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