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Old Aug 2, 2021, 12:41 PM   #91
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Wouldn't you need a performance jump that is in the hundreds in order to avoid upscaling techniques at <8k?
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Wouldn't you need a performance jump that is in the hundreds in order to avoid upscaling techniques at <8k?
Honestly, who plays at 8K?
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We always hope for a big jump! How much you expecting? 50%?
50% to 70% for Lovelace 4080 ti over a 3080 ti

100% to 150% for a 7800 xt over a 6800 xt with two chiplets
they are saying a much as 250% but they always go too high I think 100% to 150% is more real


both will be 400 + watts


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I just hope we do get a big jump this time

we need it and it may kill the need for DLSS/FSR at below 8k for most things
This logic doesn't make any sense based on no one is forced to use Dlss or Fsr and one can still choose Native. Why would you desire to kill Dlss or Fsr and force just native -- especially with all the limitations with Taa?
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This logic doesn't make any sense based on no one is forced to use Dlss or Fsr and one can still choose Native. Why would you desire to kill Dlss or Fsr and force just native -- especially with all the limitations with Taa?
to get 60+ FPS at 4k with Ray Tracing without Dlss or Fsr

both Dlss & Fsr have issues also

and is taa the only type of anti aliasing now ?

and lastly no one is forcing you to turn Dlss & Fsr off even you have the power to run fully without it

but for me I would like to have the option to run RT at 4k with or without Dlss & Fsr and still get good FPS
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TAA is pretty much the default now.
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Yeah, and TAA is definitely not perfect. It's by far the best form of antialiasing outside of downsampling/super sampling, but the performance loss on the latter is huge.
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I dunno about that, I'd rather MSAA+trAA any day of the week. To me TAA is like a decent version of FXAA. Which I think that's what it is - a temporal shader based AA that alternates with each frame.
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It's too difficult to maintain high framerate and use MSAA at high resolution. Don't get me wrong, I don't think TAA looks all that great .. but with performance in mind it does do the trick, usually.
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It's too difficult to maintain high framerate and use MSAA at high resolution. Don't get me wrong, I don't think TAA looks all that great .. but with performance in mind it does do the trick, usually.
and if the 4080 ti is 70% faster ?
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and if the 4080 ti is 70% faster ?
Cards get faster and games get more demanding. It's a never-ending cycle..
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Cards get faster and games get more demanding. It's a never-ending cycle..
And the cost
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2080Ti vs 3080Ti there is only roughly a 28% performance increase at 70% cost increase. Like that is jokes. And that's best case scenario right there, its usually lower.
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2080Ti vs 3080Ti there is only roughly a 28% performance increase at 70% cost increase. Like that is jokes. And that's best case scenario right there, its usually lower.
There’s only one other viable gaming upgrade path though. Unfortunately there isn’t a whole lot of choice available.
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2080Ti vs 3080Ti there is only roughly a 28% performance increase at 70% cost increase. Like that is jokes. And that's best case scenario right there, its usually lower.
Eh. Maybe at stock. It's definitely more than 25-30% in my experience, but requires 4K to stretch the legs.

Not sure how it's 70% cost increase considering 2080TIs were $1500 at release.. lol. 2080TI FTW3 was $1499 if I'm not mistaken. $3080TI is same.
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Eh. Maybe at stock. It's definitely more than 25-30% in my experience, but requires 4K to stretch the legs.

Not sure how it's 70% cost increase considering 2080TIs were $1500 at release.. lol. 2080TI FTW3 was $1499 if I'm not mistaken. $3080TI is same.
Yeah Hapa, your figures don't add up here.

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but they do say the AMD 7800 xt will be faster than the 4080 ti but just as many watts and cost a lot -- maybe
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What's actually high end to Intel is low end mobile chips from Nvidia/AMD.
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What's actually high end to Intel is low end mobile chips from Nvidia/AMD.
, I was thinking the same thing. 3dfx has a better shot at making a high end part than Intel.
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hasn't intel been working on a dedicated gaming chip for like 20 years now?


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Sure feels that long...
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Yeah Hapa, your figures don't add up here.

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compar...-Ti/4115vs4027
I used GPUCheck

https://www.gpucheck.com/compare/nvi...e-rtx-2080-ti/
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Vanilla 3080, not Ti ^

And what's the average for RT performance?
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Excited about this new crap. Hopefully it comes out in 2022 and I don’t have to buy anything this year. Anyways, gays aren’t pushing any big games this year anyway so bleh.
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I found intersting what this guy said about next gen GPU from AMD and Nvidia.Jump to minute 49:27.
"Why nvidia and amd would give us such a huge generational increase in perfroamance ? "
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