F.E.A.R. Wow what a great game.

[theshadowcult]

The original fear has serious sound problems, your just lucky you are getting bass at all on a Realtek sound system. The only suggestions i have are either uninstall all codecs (if you have any), and go into the realtek options and turn the bass down on the equalizer.

EDIT: Oh i forgot, there is a windows media player codec (not standard) on the disc, try that that first.

[g-a-m-e]

Originally Posted by Ne0Griever

I only really bothered playing the first one. Flickering the lights on and off and doors mysteriously close isn't particularly scary.

The Main Character hardly ever gets involved with the story. Why can't Fettel just tell you everything the first time you meet him, then you can just skip 3/4ths of the game since you do NOTHING but blasting people.

And blasting people is the only thing I really enjoyed. Nothing like watching enemies explode in slow motion from a shotgun blast at point blank.

ah man. Too bad. The flickering lights and doors closing is not what you should focus on .

The general atmostphere is just very intense. You aren't crapping your pants constantly (altough sometimes you can be startled ) , but it's the entire game with it's atmosphere that does something to you.

If you are sensitive to a game's atmosphere that is.

Again, if you pick out "the scary parts" and analyze them one by one you're just doing it wrong.

The whole game had a very claustrofibic, and different atmosphere then other shooters. I f^cking loved it.

I would play it again after reading this thread again, but unfortunately i can play out the whole game in my head from playing it through many many times.

Listen to that music man . It's epic .

[KwameR]

Originally Posted by g-a-m-e

The whole game had a very claustrofibic, and different atmosphere then other shooters. I f^cking loved it.

I think part of the problem is that some people don't really like FPSers that much, but were drawn to the story, but the truth is, this is an intense FPS combat shooter with awesome graphics, physics and as you've pointed out, "atmosphere".

It's hard to believe this game is from 2005, but there's still no better close range combat shooter, and the combo of graphics and physics are still up there with the best.......and remember people, Persues Mandate went backwards graphically, so don't judge Fear or XP by that abortion.

[NIGELG]

Originally Posted by pahncrd

I loved FEAR 2 in 3d stereo. Though it was a bit less interesting in normal 2d to be sure.

You'd love Pong if it was in 3d stereo.

[pahncrd]

Originally Posted by NIGELG

You'd love Pong if it was in 3d stereo.

It would probably make it more exciting.

But seriously, FEAR 2 was made to be in 3d dammit. Before I played it in 3d, it was really meh, but in 3d it was one of the scariest games I have ever played.

[Hidavi]

Weird ending, but it was ok. I was going to try Extraction Point but I read that it doesn't really have a story and after Interval 8 I started getting tired of the same ol corridors so I don't want to see more of the same.

[pahncrd]

Originally Posted by Hidavi

Weird ending, but it was ok. I was going to try Extraction Point but I read that it doesn't really have a story and after Interval 8 I started getting tired of the same ol corridors so I don't want to see more of the same.

I thought the expansions were fun enough to play. Especially if you can find them for cheap. The combat is still solid anyway, and there are a few decent scares to be had.

[theshadowcult]

Plus Extraction Point does the moving walls bit even better than the original. I play it every now and again just for that!

[RedBarchetta]

Never having played this series (yeah, I know ) I just bought the bundle for $4.99. 1-3 and the DLC. Looking forward to this series.

[AluminumHaste]

FEAR 1 was and still is amazing.
Play with headphones in a dark room.
Get sikkpin shaders for improved looks. http://www.moddb.com/mods/fear-sikkpin-shaders

Fear 2 was okay, different team made it I think.
Fear 3 I didn't bother finishing.

[Brainstew]

I don't know how it holds up, but the thing that sticks in my memory the most is how amazing the AI was. The AI would use real tactics like fire and move, flanking, suppression, etc. I can't think of any shooter with a better more challenging AI than that. Granted, the game was a corridor shooter, which undoubtedly is significantly easier to program the AI for than the more open games.


Edit: I just read the FEAR AI article posted earlier in the thread, interesting stuff. I really hope that someday we can have shooters that truly have AI that behave that intelligently and use real combat tactics. Poor AI is one of the big reasons I stopped caring about single player shooters in the last decade.

[RedBarchetta]

Originally Posted by AluminumHaste

Get sikkpin shaders for improved looks. http://www.moddb.com/mods/fear-sikkpin-shaders

Thanks for that

[Argoon1981]

Originally Posted by Brainstew

I don't know how it holds up, but the thing that sticks in my memory the most is how amazing the AI was. The AI would use real tactics like fire and move, flanking, suppression, etc. I can't think of any shooter with a better more challenging AI than that. Granted, the game was a corridor shooter, which undoubtedly is significantly easier to program the AI for than the more open games.


Edit: I just read the FEAR AI article posted earlier in the thread, interesting stuff. I really hope that someday we can have shooters that truly have AI that behave that intelligently and use real combat tactics. Poor AI is one of the big reasons I stopped caring about single player shooters in the last decade.

We have other games with fear type AI already (using the same underlying tech), Stalker was such game as was Crysis but i'm sure there's more, i'm talking about the tech not the behavior.

[Brainstew]

Crysis AI was super disappointing imo, but I chalked it up to the difficulty of AI in open levels with all kinds of dynamic objects.

[acroig]

Originally Posted by RedBarchetta

Thanks for that

And look on the Steam FEAR forum for the Logitech FPS fix. Finally I can play without the FPS tanking to 20 after 10 min.

[theshadowcult]

Originally Posted by RedBarchetta

Never having played this series (yeah, I know ) I just bought the bundle for $4.99. 1-3 and the DLC. Looking forward to this series.

Do yourself a huge favour and completely ignore Perseus Mandate. It was made by different people and it's very lacking. Just play through fear, extraction point and then fear 2, and thats the end of it!

[AluminumHaste]

Here's a comparison shot from FEAR normally and with Sikkpin's shaders.
This is running on my work computer, i3 with on board graphics.

Normal:



With Sikkpin, you can see also the "soft shadows" are much softer.

[AluminumHaste]

Hmm, just noticed that the second image is brighter, didn't notice while playing in game.

[theshadowcult]

Wouldnt you be better off with enb or reshade, get some ssao in there, instead of messing with the lighting which is actually already pretty decent?

[dmanna]

Fear was awesome, other than MMO's it was the first FPS I bought for PC and actually ended up getting me hooked on upgrading PC hardware. I mostly gamed on consoles exclusively until I was about 22. Fear 2 was good, I don't remember much about Fear 3 but I know I finished it.

[theshadowcult]

Originally Posted by dmanna

Fear was awesome, other than MMO's it was the first FPS I bought for PC and actually ended up getting me hooked on upgrading PC hardware. I mostly gamed on consoles exclusively until I was about 22. Fear 2 was good, I don't remember much about Fear 3 but I know I finished it.

Fear 3 was a joke. Only FEAR and FEAR 2 are made by the same guys. The Fear expacs and Fear 3 are all made by different teams, due to the battle between warners and vivendi for ip control. Fear 3 though had a really goode idea behind it, they just made a really **** game :/

the whole series is a mess. That plus FEAR 2's incredibly bad pc port choices to make xbox sell better. Im just glad Fear 2 ended up actually being goode.

[RedBarchetta]

Originally Posted by theshadowcult

Wouldnt you be better off with enb or reshade, get some ssao in there, instead of messing with the lighting which is actually already pretty decent?

Was reading in the comments of the Sikkpin mod that someone had recommended to also use the HL2 ENBseries mod along with the Sikkpin shaders.

[deadite_9]

Originally Posted by theshadowcult

Do yourself a huge favour and completely ignore Perseus Mandate. It was made by different people and it's very lacking. Just play through fear, extraction point and then fear 2, and thats the end of it!

Meh, I'd say you're just as well off ignoring Extraction Point, too. The gameplay was decent, but it utterly trashed the story from the first game. It's like no one at Timegate Studios bothered to even play the first one, and just read the CliffsNotes before deciding how to continue the story.

[Exposed]

I played FEAR 3 and could have swore I was playing Call of Duty instead.

I actually liked FEAR 2 better than FEAR 1. Fear had some annoyances I couldn't get over, mainly the unrealistic corporate floor layouts along with the deli style gates all over the place, and the inability of the game director to choose between a slow paced horror theme or a fast paced shooter. Even the horror sections were straight ripoffs from Ringu/Juon.

Fear 2 flowed better overall imo, didn't suffer an identity crisis like Fear 1 did, and kept it overall closer to the horror elements even while toting your guns around.

[Arc_Angel]

FEAR 1, 2 and Dead Space series can give me a heart attack from time to time

[theshadowcult]

Originally Posted by deadite_9

Meh, I'd say you're just as well off ignoring Extraction Point, too. The gameplay was decent, but it utterly trashed the story from the first game. It's like no one at Timegate Studios bothered to even play the first one, and just read the CliffsNotes before deciding how to continue the story.

I agree for the most part, however when i played it, i found that after the first initial trashing of the story (i think this was the first time i had ever played an expac that trashed the base game), the gameplay design in Extraction Point made up for it, there were parts in Extraction Point that were arguably better than the base game! Perseus though was were it makes no sense.. the story was a little better than EP because they were actually trying something new, but somehow they ****ed up their own game design from the first expac into something awful :/

Originally Posted by Arc_Angel

FEAR 1, 2 and Dead Space series can give me a heart attack from time to time

FEAR1 and Dead Space 1 were the two scariest games we'd ever had until Amnesia came out!! If anyone likes though ( [EDIT] these ) games, definitely try Layers of Fear!

[dmanna]

Originally Posted by theshadowcult

I agree for the most part, however when i played it, i found that after the first initial trashing of the story (i think this was the first time i had ever played an expac that trashed the base game), the gameplay design in Extraction Point made up for it, there were parts in Extraction Point that were arguably better than the base game! Perseus though was were it makes no sense.. the story was a little better than EP because they were actually trying something new, but somehow they ****ed up their own game design from the first expac into something awful :/



FEAR1 and Dead Space 1 were the two scariest games we'd ever had until Amnesia came out!! If anyone likes though games, definitely try Layers of Fear!

Dead Space 1 was scary, I loved it when it first came out.

[Progression]

Originally Posted by theshadowcult

I agree for the most part, however when i played it, i found that after the first initial trashing of the story (i think this was the first time i had ever played an expac that trashed the base game), the gameplay design in Extraction Point made up for it, there were parts in Extraction Point that were arguably better than the base game! Perseus though was were it makes no sense.. the story was a little better than EP because they were actually trying something new, but somehow they ****ed up their own game design from the first expac into something awful :/



FEAR1 and Dead Space 1 were the two scariest games we'd ever had until Amnesia came out!! If anyone likes though ( [EDIT] these ) games, definitely try Layers of Fear!

Layers of Fear in VR must be downright stupidly scary.

Anyway, I loved FEAR 1.

[KAC]

These games are too old now. Also FEAR was stupid easy game to play. The whole stop time and keep spamming gays with bullets got old pretty fast.

It had the atmosphere but wasn't a scary game either.

Replaying it today will not be possible for me.

[Rebooter]

I love FEAR and just started another playthrough yesterday. Mostly to try the new fix for the HID device slowdown bug. I had used a script to temporarily disable then renable HID devices in Windows 7, but heard it doesn't work anymore in Windows 10. The DLL fix is working perfectly for me, although the file gets flagged as malware by my antivirus (had to add an exclusion).

Steam forum post here:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/21090/...5380897389173/