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Old Nov 19, 2021, 11:49 PM   #31
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Homeless people are bad news 90% of the time. I'm being generous with that %.

I carry every time I go to Charlotte, because the home depot I go to is surrounded by homeless people in the woods apparently. I discovered that on a trip there today while watching them come out of the woods.

One of them killed a man in that store a year or two ago, because he told them he didn't have anything for them.

I do.
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Old Nov 20, 2021, 10:57 AM   #32
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One of them killed a man in that store a year or two ago, because he told them he didn't have anything for them.

I do.
Ooh, that makes me curious. How did they/he/she kill the guy?
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...the home depot I go to is surrounded by homeless people in the woods apparently.
I think that technically makes it the Homeless Depot.
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Old Nov 20, 2021, 03:05 PM   #34
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Good to get a grip on things before they can get out of hand. Its sad that we have to do this but dealing with mentally unstable homeless people can lead to dire consequences.
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Old Nov 20, 2021, 05:13 PM   #36
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I watched a homeless person OD and die at the Royal Alexander LRT platform a few weeks back.

I deal with them on a regular basis since I take transit, had one guy the other day light up his crack pipe infront of everyone at the transit center and then share it with another hidden under a pile of clothes.
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Ooh, that makes me curious. How did they/he/she kill the guy?
Stabbed him to death. If I recall correctly it was with a screw driver he picked up. This is why I carry when I go there.
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There are actually very reputable do's and do not lists when dealing with people that are homeless. Point one is never give them money. If they need something, buy it for them. However point two is never tell them your address or indulge them to hang-out at your address. This is emphasized by saying if you doubt the wisdom of this, lets communicate privately. It sucks, but probably better to terminate this entirely if possible? Just saying...
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There are actually very reputable do's and do not lists when dealing with people that are homeless. Point one is never give them money. If they need something, buy it for them. However point two is never tell them your address or indulge them to hang-out at your address. This is emphasized by saying if you doubt the wisdom of this, lets communicate privately. It sucks, but probably better to terminate this entirely if possible? Just saying...
Yup. Honestly I wouldn't have engaged him at all, except I didn't realize he was homeless until I had spoken with him in my driveway several times. I knew he was somewhat mentally handicapped, but I wouldn't count that as a red-flag that would stop me from engaging with somebody. btw, this is a heavily mexican neighborhood, very friendly and social, and neighbors stop and chat me up in my driveway all the time. I welcome that kind of interaction from neighbors.

Manny hasn't stopped by in some time now... i think it's been ~10 days. He'll probably visit again at some point, but I seem to have de-escalated it for now.
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Yup. Honestly I wouldn't have engaged him at all, except I didn't realize he was homeless until I had spoken with him in my driveway several times. I knew he was somewhat mentally handicapped, but I wouldn't count that as a red-flag that would stop me from engaging with somebody. btw, this is a heavily mexican neighborhood, very friendly and social, and neighbors stop and chat me up in my driveway all the time. I welcome that kind of interaction from neighbors.

Manny hasn't stopped by in some time now... i think it's been ~10 days. He'll probably visit again at some point, but I seem to have de-escalated it for now.
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Manny stopped by again today. It's been several weeks since he's stopped by.

In the last few months, he's taken up residence in the house his father owned 30 years ago, which has been abandoned for most of that time. Sounds like there were squatters in it, that eventually left, and he took over.

He says he owns it legally, that he has all the paperwork and the judge signed it over. Who knows whether that's true or not. I told him he should find a way to get the utilities on, and start paying those, as it will strengthen his claim to the house. As long as he's just camping out there without actually getting the place set up, he looks like a squatter.

Sure enough, there's some other people who changed the deadbolt this week, apparently to keep him out. He said he had to kick down the door to get in. I told him he should get his electricity turned on and set up some security cameras... also reminded him that I have security cameras all over my house.

He said he was walking to an appointment with his attorney to discuss the other people who are making a claim to his house. I wished him luck and he left.
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Perhaps lead him in the direction that he needs to stay there as much as possible. You know to keep watch over the place. Maybe that'll keep him outa your hair. His house I mean not yours.
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Well I've got a security cam video of Manny stealing a circular saw off my driveway a couple nights back. He sneaks up the driveway just after midnight, grabs the saw and runs off.

I had noticed it missing the last couple days, but hadn't thought much of it, as I often misplace my tools and I figure I probably left it in the shed. I didn't bother to check through the security camera logs until tonight, after Manny stopped by to chat, and was acting a little suspicious. After he left, I checked the security videos. He's wearing a hood over his face to disguise himself, but he's easy to identify from his shoes. I've got him on the camera from when he stopped by today, wearing the same shoes.

Clearly, next time he comes around I need to tell him in the strongest terms never to come back.

I called the police department to ask for some advice. I told them I'm not trying to have the guy arrested, and I don't really care about the circular saw or getting it back, but I definitely want to make sure Manny doesn't come back. They recommended that I file a police report, as that will strengthen my case if for some reason things escalate after I tell him not to come back. They're sending some officers over to take the police report and get the security videos.

Of course it was always going to go this way, but I had hoped that it wouldn't.
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Well I've got a security cam video of Manny stealing a circular saw off my driveway a couple nights back. He sneaks up the driveway just after midnight, grabs the saw and runs off.

I had noticed it missing the last couple days, but hadn't thought much of it, as I often misplace my tools and I figure I probably left it in the shed. I didn't bother to check through the security camera logs until tonight, after Manny stopped by to chat, and was acting a little suspicious. After he left, I checked the security videos. He's wearing a hood over his face to disguise himself, but he's easy to identify from his shoes. I've got him on the camera from when he stopped by today, wearing the same shoes.

Clearly, next time he comes around I need to tell him in the strongest terms never to come back.

I called the police department to ask for some advice. I told them I'm not trying to have the guy arrested, and I don't really care about the circular saw or getting it back, but I definitely want to make sure Manny doesn't come back. They recommended that I file a police report, as that will strengthen my case if for some reason things escalate after I tell him not to come back. They're sending some officers over to take the police report and get the security videos.

Of course it was always going to go this way, but I had hoped that it wouldn't.
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That sucks.

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Well I've got a security cam video of Manny stealing a circular saw off my driveway a couple nights back. He sneaks up the driveway just after midnight, grabs the saw and runs off.

I had noticed it missing the last couple days, but hadn't thought much of it, as I often misplace my tools and I figure I probably left it in the shed. I didn't bother to check through the security camera logs until tonight, after Manny stopped by to chat, and was acting a little suspicious. After he left, I checked the security videos. He's wearing a hood over his face to disguise himself, but he's easy to identify from his shoes. I've got him on the camera from when he stopped by today, wearing the same shoes.

Clearly, next time he comes around I need to tell him in the strongest terms never to come back.

I called the police department to ask for some advice. I told them I'm not trying to have the guy arrested, and I don't really care about the circular saw or getting it back, but I definitely want to make sure Manny doesn't come back. They recommended that I file a police report, as that will strengthen my case if for some reason things escalate after I tell him not to come back. They're sending some officers over to take the police report and get the security videos.

Of course it was always going to go this way, but I had hoped that it wouldn't.

Sucks man, you tried to do as much good as you can, but people are going to be who they are in the end.

I knew eventually this would have some sort of bad ending. Hopefully everything gets sorted.
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Hopefully he's not violent. But, you never know. If I were you I'd at least have some pepper spray and maybe a baseball bat handy. You may have more than that and that's fine. As long as you have something. Believe me the ones that are mentally not right can be a unbelievable handful. I know from experience. And you NEVER know what they'll do.

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Had a homeless guy follow me to my truck last week at lowes. He kept asking for money and I said no. Young guy who was really pushy. I got about 10 ft from my truck turned, lifted my shirt to show him I wasn't ****ing around, and said get lost.

You shouldn't waste your time on these people. They're addicts, and are happy to live that life apparently.
Damn, you must have some awesome abs.
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I got a 12 pack.
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And a 12 gage!
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Actually it looks more like an 18 pack. Need to exercise more in a very very bad way.
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Had a homeless guy follow me to my truck last week at lowes. He kept asking for money and I said no. Young guy who was really pushy. I got about 10 ft from my truck turned, lifted my shirt to show him I wasn't ****ing around, and said get lost.

You shouldn't waste your time on these people. They're addicts, and are happy to live that life apparently.
Agreed. When they try to talk with me, I ignore them. Usually they get the message and move on. If they try to get pushy I speak LOUDLY and tell them I'm not interested. I don't care what it's about, I don't want to talk with them and I'm under no obligation to do so.
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Hopefully he's not violent. But, you never know. If I were you I'd at least have some pepper spray and maybe a baseball bat handy. You may have more than that and that's fine. As long as you have something. Believe me the ones that are mentally not right can be a unbelievable handful. I know from experience. And you NEVER know what they'll do.

EDIT: I almost lost a eye to a guy half my size because I underestimated him. He had crazy strength.
A good quality switchblade can make them think twice too, but usually a strong pepper spray is good enough (blade or gun as a backup in case the pepper doesn't work and they get violent).

Hopefully I'll never encounter a situation where I'd need to use either, but it's a good idea to be prepared.
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And a 12 gage!
In his pantz?
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Actually it looks more like an 18 pack. Need to exercise more in a very very bad way.
so when you lifted your shirt you were actually showing him your manboobs......?


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