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Old Jul 20, 2021, 10:35 AM   #1
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Who here lives in Ohio?

My wife and I have been looking to move out of Texas for a while now, and she's actively been looking for software development jobs outside of Texas or remote for the last 13 months (to no avail unfortunately), but we started looking at our situation and researching where we could move and northeast Ohio is where we've settled on, particularly Youngstown area (where Titanium_ used to live, I've already talked to him about it).

The reason for that is based on our current homes' value. We owe around $200k on it, but could sell it tomorrow for $500k, and use much of that money to pay for a house in northeaster Ohio in full, live mortgage free for the rest of our lives.

So anyone in Ohio have any input? Cost of living looks to be lower than Austin, there's also plenty of jobs in my field (CAD/CAM, 3d modeling, and drafting), as well as many software developer jobs my wife could apply for. Just seems like a great fit. We could clear close to $300k in profit on our house, buy a home there for $200k or less, and put the rest aside to cover taxes on it as well as a large rainy day fund. Am I crazy? Maybe, but the idea of lowering our expenses and living mortgage free seems very good to me.

I've already discussed with my boss, and written up the job description for my replacement, so it's getting serious
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Old Jul 20, 2021, 10:57 AM   #2
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I live in Northwest Ohio: Land of the corn and wheat fields.

The Northeast is my least favorite part of the state. If I had to relocate in the state I would prefer to move closer to Columbus (central) or further southwest around Cincinnati. The southeast is pretty but there are very few career opportunities there unless you are a park ranger.

Columbus recently landed an Amazon distribution center and is becoming a (sort of) silicon valley of the Midwest. They have state-of-the-art hospitals and universities. Columbus proper (around the Arena district) is one of the cleanest cities I've ever visited.

Just food for thought. Godspeed wherever your sail it set.
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It’s been ages, but Youngstown wasn’t horrible when I was there. Used to go stay with friends for extended vacations.

I don’t have any current day input other than to say mortgage free is a great perk all by itself, and best of luck whatever you decide

Oh…and you can probably say goodbye to rust free cars
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I live in Northwest Ohio: Land of the corn and wheat fields.

The Northeast is my least favorite part of the state. If I had to relocate in the state I would prefer to move closer to Columbus (central) or further southwest around Cincinnati. The southeast is pretty but there are very few career opportunities there unless you are a park ranger.

Columbus recently landed an Amazon distribution center and is becoming a (sort of) silicon valley of the Midwest. They have state-of-the-art hospitals and universities. Columbus proper (around the Arena district) is one of the cleanest cities I've ever visited.

Just food for thought. Godspeed wherever your sail it set.
If my wife found a job elsewhere in Ohio we could certainly expand our search. Youngstown as a whole is slightly safer than where we currently live, and cost of living is much much lower, plus its an hour from Pittsburgh. I'm more drawn to Pittsburgh for the hockey to be honest, not much of a Columbus Blue Jackets fan.
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Ohio is a good place to be from ......... far from

born in Elyria moved to Bellevue was a nice small town in the 60's

then moved to Westerville was a nice town in the 60's and 70's

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Most of the north east is looking to move to Texas, why are going the opposite direction? Just for interest sake, wouldn't mind moving from New Jersey and would like your take on moving from Texas
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This state is terrible.
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So you are willing to live in this crappy weather?
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Wife and I always float the idea of moving back to the east or some inexpensive state(ohio not being one) but the loss of convenience and hustle and bustle of the city would have us wanting to go back.


Living in a big city every thing is always within reach, fast, and there is always something to do. We would probably get bored fast living in a country-ish area.


Bringing the salaries over to another state we could definitely live like royalty mortgage free but at what cost?
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Texas weather is pretty crappy, especially in the summer. Unbearable heat. There's a lot of other things to hate about this state, but I don't want to get into P&R. Needless to say, never thought my state would actively try to kill me till the winter storm this year, and I don't intend on giving the state the chance of repeating that.
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Wife and I always float the idea of moving back to the east or some inexpensive state(ohio not being one) but the loss of convenience and hustle and bustle of the city would have us wanting to go back.


Living in a big city every thing is always within reach, fast, and there is always something to do. We would probably get bored fast living in a country-ish area.


Bringing the salaries over to another state we could definitely live like royalty mortgage free but at what cost?
I'm not really interested in the hustle and bustle, especially Austin, which is constantly rated to have some of the worst traffic in the country. I'm much happier away from the big city. My current job is even outside of the city, and I far prefer it. No traffic to and from work is amazing.
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I'm not really interested in the hustle and bustle, especially Austin, which is constantly rated to have some of the worst traffic in the country. I'm much happier away from the big city. My current job is even outside of the city, and I far prefer it. No traffic to and from work is amazing.

Yeah for sure, LA has(now) the second worst traffic in the country. Going somewhere definitely starts with "how is traffic and do we have time to get there"


If I didnt want the hustle or convenience of a big city I would definitely go or try to make it happen. The only other thought is any other friends I would be leaving behind and how that would play out. I know a lot of people in the LA area who work for tech companies out here are trying to work remotely permanently so they can move back to their hometowns or just out of LA. Some companies are obliging although with a salary cut depending on where they land. The lucky ones didnt get a salary cut though. So taking big salaries into little towns they are sitting pretty.
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Ive been reading about Tennessee as some kind of low tax happy land. Winters cant be too bad in Ohio, Toronto/Montreal much north of there have mild winters (compared to here anyways), and you can avoid the east coast humidity being more inland.

As for rust on cars well its not what it used to be. My 2015 Rav4 sits outside all the time and doesnt have a speck of rust underneath. Cars are so much better galvanized factory corrosion protected now.
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I've got some 40 homes saved on my Zillow account, there's quite a lot out there that would suit us. Also got a lot of the situations with my project cars sorted out, a friend of mine will be taking my 86 BMW 325e shell, and as payment for that will be helping me finish my V8 swapped 88 325i. I also might have someone interested in the original motor that came out of the 325i, and will be moving a bunch of my car parts and tools that are easily replaceable or I won't need.
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I've driven through Ohio many times. I've heard Columbus is really nice, but to me, Ohio is a drive-through state.
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As one of the 3Cs (Columbus, Cleveland, Cincinnati) Columbus is the best of them.

The northern shores are nice around Lake Erie. Southeastern Ohio is actually quite beautiful (hills, forests, caves, etc.) and sparsely populated. Cincinnati has some nice attractions and waterfront restaurants.
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My mom's family was from there, Cleveland suburbs and Dayton, and a sister lived in Columbus a while. I see Beulah Park is still a thing.
Does Columbus being a big college town matter?
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As one of the 3Cs (Columbus, Cleveland, Cincinnati) Columbus is the best of them.

Cleveland doth not rock. I've never before seen roads as bad as this shithole. Literally drive out of the airport car rental lot and I'm dodging 8" deep potholes. Way to promote your city to visitors! The main streets aren't much better.
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Cleveland doth not rock. I've never before seen roads as bad as this shithole. Literally drive out of the airport car rental lot and I'm dodging 8" deep potholes. Way to promote your city to visitors! The main streets aren't much better.
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Ive been reading about Tennessee as some kind of low tax happy land. Winters cant be too bad in Ohio, Toronto/Montreal much north of there have mild winters (compared to here anyways), and you can avoid the east coast humidity being more inland.

As for rust on cars well its not what it used to be. My 2015 Rav4 sits outside all the time and doesnt have a speck of rust underneath. Cars are so much better galvanized factory corrosion protected now.
Yes, TN is very nice. I love rural settings, and if I could live in the TN eastern mountains it would be heaven for me. I've never really ventured into the main cities of TN though. I don't think they have property taxes there which is a huge bonus.
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Sounds like Austin, if I'm being honest. Roads are awful here.
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Sounds like Austin, if I'm being honest. Roads are awful here.
I used to live in Austin 24 years ago (wow) and everything was well maintained back then. Guess things aren't what they used to be.
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