I might have to ditch my S21 Ultra for a 12 Pro Max - Page 2

Elysian · Jun 8, 2021, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Lazy8s

My buddy sold his MBP and he's regretting it now.

I bought a 2015 MBP in 2018 and loved it, wound up upgrading to a refurb 2020 last year.

Lazy8s · Jun 8, 2021, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Elysian

I bought a 2015 MBP in 2018 and loved it, wound up upgrading to a refurb 2020 last year.

We were talking this morning about Mac stuff. He has himself convinced his ipad pro can replace a mbp. It might under normal circumstances and usage, but this guy has....I think 6 iphones, 4 ipads, a Mac mini, 2 or 3 watches and an imac. Seriously, he collects Apple stuff. Several generations worth.

I'm pretty sure he'll cave and get another MBP lol.

**logical** · Jun 8, 2021, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazy8s

We were talking this morning about Mac stuff. He has himself convinced his ipad pro can replace a mbp. It might under normal circumstances and usage, but this guy has....I think 6 iphones, 4 ipads, a Mac mini, 2 or 3 watches and an imac. Seriously, he collects Apple stuff. Several generations worth.

I'm pretty sure he'll cave and get another MBP lol.

Depending on his workload a 12inch iPad pro(the new m1 more than enough) has enough power to replace a PC if its within his scope of work. The touchpad/keyboard combo with the iPad definitely makes that viable. I personally wouldnt ever be able to do it though.

Nunz · Jun 8, 2021, 12:52 PM

The iPad is not anything like an actual laptop. These things run the phone OS, not MacOS. I have an iPad Pro 2020 and it’s not a suitable replacement for a laptop.

Elysian · Jun 8, 2021, 01:05 PM

An iPad would be suitable for 80% of what I use a laptop for, but that last 20% is the most important stuff I use a laptop for, which an iPad just can't do. CAD/CAM on a Mac is also difficult enough, there's not much support for it, so I have to use Parallels Desktop to run my CAD/CAM software or just use my Windows 10 desktop.

**logical** · Jun 8, 2021, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Nunz

The iPad is not anything like an actual laptop. These things run the phone OS, not MacOS. I have an iPad Pro 2020 and it’s not a suitable replacement for a laptop.

No ****, but 90% of people dont need a full working laptop anyhow. With semi-multitasking that iPadOS has they can read their emails and do their spreadsheets no problem.

Lazy8s · Jun 8, 2021, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by logical

No ****, but 90% of people dont need a full working laptop anyhow. With semi-multitasking that iPadOS has they can read their emails and do their spreadsheets no problem.

Pretty much this. He's going to wind up getting the MBP because he just loves having the hardware. It's his thing, and quite frankly the guy knows Apple better than anyone else I've ever met but for some Apple software engineers.

His current hardware is divided up into his DJ group, his work group, and his personal use group which includes a lot of content creation for his wife's shows - she's a heck of a singer and does local "concerts" every weekend. He uses his ipad and software he bought for the ipad to manage all of the gear during each show.

But restricting himself...I don't think he can do it lol. I'll give him until the next iteration is released.

On this Series 6 watch - the functionality on this thing is just insane. Setup was easy as is switching bands, but I just did an EKG while setting up

I'm already enamored with it.

Apple sure has come a long way since the iphone 6 days.

Nunz · Jun 9, 2021, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by logical

No ****, but 90% of people dont need a full working laptop anyhow. With semi-multitasking that iPadOS has they can read their emails and do their spreadsheets no problem.

I dunno. From personal experience, thinking the iPad Pro would fulfill my multi-tasking needs, it really falls short. I’m kind of stuck now because I don’t want to spend on another device after spending on the iPad. It’s stupid that they forced the iPad onto the phone OS. The Phone OS is super limiting for a device that could easily handle the full MacOS.

My main issue with the iPad Pro is that the apps are not fully functioning. I don’t like using PowerPoint, Word, etc on this iPad (and I have a Logitech Folio keyboard+case) because everything is all ****ing weird on it. The phone OS crap also makes file difficult to transfer etc for no reason what-so-ever.

I wouldn’t want to use it for Spreadsheets. I can’t stand using this thing to build small PowerPoints like I currently have to for the leadership course I’m in.

**logical** · Jun 9, 2021, 10:16 AM

I got a bunch of people who definitely would benefit from taking away the full MacOS and giving them something simple like an iPad.

My organization is herding people towards the cloud mentality and the iPad is perfect for that. Not to mention they are infinitely easier to understand and boringly consistent(exactly what non tech savvy people need)

Nunz you are on the end of the power user but most people are nowhere near that. I know that you would like a full OS so you can do everything you want in the fashion you would like, but the average everyday worker needs to be taught in a simple way they can understand forever. And since iPadOS doesnt change they can learn that one way to do things and never have to worry about it again. Less troubleshooting, less complaining overall.

I still maintain for the power user he/she needs a full OS experience but the majority of office workers dont need anywhere near that.

Lazy8s · Jun 9, 2021, 08:20 PM

I'll be getting a pro sometime soon. I'm looking forward to see the changes in iOS 15 on it, although that's still a little ways away.

I'm still a little shocked that I transitioned to iOS so easily. I'm not missing Android at all.

**logical** · Jun 9, 2021, 09:01 PM

Give it to some time Android guys always find something they miss at some point

Lazy8s · Jun 10, 2021, 06:06 AM

The way camera settings are presented is the only thing that comes close to a miss so far. If anything, Apple has beaten Android at this point, regarding my settings/app preferences, and I've just scratched the surface. Lots more Apple tips to go through yet.....

switchAMG · Jun 10, 2021, 09:29 PM

Weird, sounds like a lemon -- my wife and I have the ultra, no issues. I would never trade my phone for a ****ing iphone.

Lazy8s · Jun 11, 2021, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by switchAMG

Weird, sounds like a lemon -- my wife and I have the ultra, no issues. I would never trade my phone for a ****ing iphone.

Yeah but you drive a Ford too

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Originally Posted by KAC

Samsung S21 is the proper taxi driver phone in Dubai.

So just status symbol stuff?

A lot of the comparisons I read stated you really can't go wrong with either device and so far my experience is bearing that up. Love Android and right now loving iOS. It's come a long way in the last few years.

Somebody who is a power user might think otherwise, but at this point my setup and usage is pretty standard user stuff, no deal breakers here.

Silent-Runner · Jun 11, 2021, 06:52 AM

never understood that status symbol small peen0r stuff and never will. If you like your device and it does what you want/need then it's just fine.

Lazy8s · Jun 11, 2021, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Silent-Runner

never understood that status symbol small peen0r stuff and never will. If you like your device and it does what you want/need then it's just fine.

Agreed, but some folks get pretty heavily invested in their devices.

Silent-Runner · Jun 11, 2021, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Lazy8s

Agreed, but some folks get pretty heavily invested in their devices.

sure 'nuff

Lazy8s · Jun 15, 2021, 05:57 AM

So...several days after making the change it's still a zero regret move for me. Enough that my Samsung tablet is on the way out the door as well. Apple had a 3rd gen 12.9 with 512Gb and cellular for $1009, refurbished of course, but it's still backed by their warranty.

I'd love to have the latest and greatest, but I really don't 'need' it, so a $600 savings over the new one sits pretty good with me.

Quite frankly I'm finding myself getting a lot more use out of the phone and watch than I did out of the S21 + fitbit. Loving it

**logical** · Jun 15, 2021, 02:01 PM

This years iPad was actually a huge performance jump, I would have splurged for it as it will last you longer in the end. But damn did you go deep into the apple ecosystem. Now to grab an apple tv and use homekit items in your house

Nunz · Jun 15, 2021, 02:36 PM

Next thing you know he's gonna be buying airpods and calling everyone poor like KAC.

Lazy8s · Jun 15, 2021, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Nunz

Next thing you know he's gonna be buying airpods and calling everyone poor like KAC.

Guys who buy refurbed last gen can't call anyone poor

I hooked up my 4th gen Apple TV the other day

I forgot I had it lol.

Lazy8s · Jun 16, 2021, 04:42 PM

I love this iPad. I’m a goner yeah. Good stuff though. I just need a case/keyboard now.

Lazy8s · Jun 17, 2021, 03:14 AM

Nah...I wouldn't use them.

Lazy8s · Jun 17, 2021, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KAC

wtf.

Aren't they ear buds? Sorry I'm not up on all the latest bondage and terminology.

Munkus · Jun 17, 2021, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lazy8s

Aren't they ear buds? Sorry I'm not up on all the latest bondage and terminology.

Not the way KAC uses them.

Lazy8s · Jun 17, 2021, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Munkus

Not the way KAC uses them.

I forgot who I was speaking with

Lazy8s · Jun 18, 2021, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by KAC

So you are saying you receive calls by holding your phone? And attend zoom calls on device sound? And use car hands free for talking to people? What is this 1999?

More status stuff?

Nunz · Jun 18, 2021, 06:44 AM

Driving with earbuds in is illegal in most states, and also pretty ****ing dangerous.

Lazy8s · Jun 18, 2021, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Nunz

Driving with earbuds in is illegal in most states, and also pretty ****ing dangerous.

It is. My buddy is recommending these for everything else because I don’t like earbuds anyway.

https://www.rei.com/product/169639/a...pex-headphones

He swears by them, but I haven’t tried them yet.

Nunz · Jun 18, 2021, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Lazy8s

It is. My buddy is recommending these for everything else because I don’t like earbuds anyway.

https://www.rei.com/product/169639/a...pex-headphones

He swears by them, but I haven’t tried them yet.

Pretty expensive and can guarantee the sound quality is poor.

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Jun 9, 2021, 10:16 AM	#39
logical What is my purpose? Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: * Posts: 22,638	I got a bunch of people who definitely would benefit from taking away the full MacOS and giving them something simple like an iPad. My organization is herding people towards the cloud mentality and the iPad is perfect for that. Not to mention they are infinitely easier to understand and boringly consistent(exactly what non tech savvy people need) Nunz you are on the end of the power user but most people are nowhere near that. I know that you would like a full OS so you can do everything you want in the fashion you would like, but the average everyday worker needs to be taught in a simple way they can understand forever. And since iPadOS doesnt change they can learn that one way to do things and never have to worry about it again. Less troubleshooting, less complaining overall. I still maintain for the power user he/she needs a full OS experience but the majority of office workers dont need anywhere near that. __________________

Jun 9, 2021, 08:20 PM	#40
Lazy8s One day at a time Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 37,251	I'll be getting a pro sometime soon. I'm looking forward to see the changes in iOS 15 on it, although that's still a little ways away. I'm still a little shocked that I transitioned to iOS so easily. I'm not missing Android at all.

Jun 9, 2021, 09:01 PM	#41
logical What is my purpose? Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: * Posts: 22,638	Give it to some time Android guys always find something they miss at some point __________________

Jun 10, 2021, 06:06 AM	#42
Lazy8s One day at a time Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 37,251	The way camera settings are presented is the only thing that comes close to a miss so far. If anything, Apple has beaten Android at this point, regarding my settings/app preferences, and I've just scratched the surface. Lots more Apple tips to go through yet.....

Jun 10, 2021, 09:29 PM	#43
switchAMG Radeon Arctic Islands Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: St. Albert Posts: 19,659	Weird, sounds like a lemon -- my wife and I have the ultra, no issues. I would never trade my phone for a ****ing iphone. __________________ RIP Roxen, you will be missed.

Jun 11, 2021, 06:52 AM	#45
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Jun 15, 2021, 05:57 AM	#48
Lazy8s One day at a time Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 37,251	So...several days after making the change it's still a zero regret move for me. Enough that my Samsung tablet is on the way out the door as well. Apple had a 3rd gen 12.9 with 512Gb and cellular for $1009, refurbished of course, but it's still backed by their warranty. I'd love to have the latest and greatest, but I really don't 'need' it, so a $600 savings over the new one sits pretty good with me. Quite frankly I'm finding myself getting a lot more use out of the phone and watch than I did out of the S21 + fitbit. Loving it

Jun 15, 2021, 02:01 PM	#49
logical What is my purpose? Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: * Posts: 22,638	This years iPad was actually a huge performance jump, I would have splurged for it as it will last you longer in the end. But damn did you go deep into the apple ecosystem. Now to grab an apple tv and use homekit items in your house __________________

Jun 16, 2021, 04:42 PM	#52
Lazy8s One day at a time Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 37,251	I love this iPad. I’m a goner yeah. Good stuff though. I just need a case/keyboard now.

Jun 17, 2021, 03:14 AM	#53
Lazy8s One day at a time Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 37,251	Nah...I wouldn't use them.

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