I might have to ditch my S21 Ultra for a 12 Pro Max

Lazy8s · Jun 2, 2021, 05:23 PM

Call waiting is broken, screen freezes.
Can't hear whoever is on the other end, even bank menus sometimes, or voicemail. edit: this is random, not all the time...
Those 2 are massive deal breakers as a very ill family member can't afford to be hung up on if she needs me.
Doesn't like to sync with my laptop on occasion.

Carrier updates also hang up (freeze) the phone for minutes at a time, sometimes needing a reboot.

Camera is awesome, everything else it does is quick, sweet screen and all that, but the gremlins are really beginning to get to me. And I hate having to reset to hopefully get things right.

The other feather in Apples cap is the privacy direction Apple is taking. It's very appealing. Other than the settings menus (preference) and the Apples take on gestures (again, preference) there's not much about the 12 Pro max that isn't appealing.

I don't hate the S21, but it's really getting on my last nerve.

Elysian · Jun 3, 2021, 07:27 AM

How about OnePlus?

I've not bought Samsung since the Note 5, and I don't regret that one bit.

**Trunks0** · Jun 3, 2021, 12:22 PM

That sounds more like the phone might be broken? If I encountered that I'd want my phone replaced.

Silent-Runner · Jun 3, 2021, 12:31 PM

not a fan of samsung myself, let alone apple. There are a lot of other mobiles that would fit your bill though, like the Xiaomi or the OnePlus. That aside i'd try to get a replacement for your phone first, if that also fails, well, then get whatever you want.

Lazy8s · Jun 3, 2021, 04:45 PM

I've got to look at the OnePlus. I've been following the info here about it and read plenty of reviews...seems like a really solid device.

I will try to get another phone before doing anything though. It's just maddening that an expensive, brand new flagship phone can be such a pain.

I never had any major issues with the Note 8, but I probably won't buy Samsung again after this frustration.

Elysian · Jun 3, 2021, 04:53 PM

I've been buying OnePlus exclusively since Essential went under. Couldn't be happier. I've got a backup 6T at home, my wife has a 7T, and I have an 8T.

Lazy8s · Jun 3, 2021, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elysian

I've been buying OnePlus exclusively since Essential went under. Couldn't be happier. I've got a backup 6T at home, my wife has a 7T, and I have an 8T.

I miss my Essential lol. It wasn't the end all be all, but it sure was a solid device.

That said, I love the looks/specs on the 8T

I don't know exactly what I'm going to do yet - this thread and talking / bitching it out with friends is how I get my mind made up. Not super efficient, but it works lol.

Nunz · Jun 3, 2021, 05:39 PM

The 9 and 9 Pro are out, but there are some really good deals (even on OnePlus site directly) for the 8T+5G. I have one and love it.

I've been OnePlus since the 7T and a few of us have had nothing but good things to say. I bought their OnePlus Buds and they work fantastic with the phone as well. Super cheap too; beats the hell out of the overpriced $200 Apple buds.

Elysian · Jun 3, 2021, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nunz

The 9 and 9 Pro are out, but there are some really good deals (even on OnePlus site directly) for the 8T+5G. I have one and love it.

I've been OnePlus since the 7T and a few of us have had nothing but good things to say. I bought their OnePlus Buds and they work fantastic with the phone as well. Super cheap too; beats the hell out of the overpriced $200 Apple buds.

And they FINALLY fixed the software issue with the Buds/Bud Z's so it no longer cuts audio in Game Mode. My Bud Z's are getting a lot more use now.

Lazy8s · Jun 3, 2021, 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nunz

The 9 and 9 Pro are out, but there are some really good deals (even on OnePlus site directly) for the 8T+5G. I have one and love it.

I've been OnePlus since the 7T and a few of us have had nothing but good things to say. I bought their OnePlus Buds and they work fantastic with the phone as well. Super cheap too; beats the hell out of the overpriced $200 Apple buds.

Man that 9 Pro is one good looking phone.

I'm going to hash things out with Samsung again, at least try to get a new phone to sell and probably make a decision after that.

I really like the looks of that 9 Pro though

KAC · Jun 3, 2021, 10:02 PM

Get the iPhone. Everything else is garbage.

Nunz · Jun 4, 2021, 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KAC

Get the iPhone. Everything else is garbage.

Wrong, and dumb.

Elysian · Jun 4, 2021, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KAC

Get the iPhone. Everything else is garbage.

Meh.

Lazy8s · Jun 4, 2021, 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KAC

Get the iPhone. Everything else is garbage.

Lazy8s · Jun 4, 2021, 07:11 PM

For better or worse I went with the 12 Pro Max for now. I had another call from my mother, couldn't hear her and had visions of her laying on the floor unable to speak. Pushed me over the edge, so I made the call based on Apples new privacy initiatives mostly.

We're trying our best to cut out any and all unwanted tracking, accounts and other garbage, so I figured I'd give it a try.

Thanks for the feedback guys

**logical** · Jun 4, 2021, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazy8s

For better or worse I went with the 12 Pro Max for now. I had another call from my mother, couldn't hear her and had visions of her laying on the floor unable to speak. Pushed me over the edge, so I made the call based on Apples new privacy initiatives mostly.

We're trying our best to cut out any and all unwanted tracking, accounts and other garbage, so I figured I'd give it a try.

Thanks for the feedback guys

Google is following suit with the privacy stuff soon.

But you know exactly what you're getting with apple. Amazing hardware and boring/serviceable yet super reliable iOS. Enjoy the phone.

Lazy8s · Jun 4, 2021, 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by logical

Google is following suit with the privacy stuff soon.

But you know exactly what you're getting with apple. Amazing hardware and boring/serviceable yet super reliable iOS. Enjoy the phone.

I'll still be using Google, so that's good to know. Little bit of a re-learning curve and I should be set.

KAC · Jun 4, 2021, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazy8s

For better or worse I went with the 12 Pro Max for now. I had another call from my mother, couldn't hear her and had visions of her laying on the floor unable to speak. Pushed me over the edge, so I made the call based on Apples new privacy initiatives mostly.

We're trying our best to cut out any and all unwanted tracking, accounts and other garbage, so I figured I'd give it a try.

Thanks for the feedback guys

Sensible choice. Hope your mom is OK.

Greasy · Jun 4, 2021, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by logical

But you know exactly what you're getting with apple. Amazing hardware and boring/serviceable yet super reliable iOS. Enjoy the phone.

This is exactly why my family all have iphones. They actually get updates for 4+ years. Never used one plus, but the only android device I've ever owned that actually got some updates after a year was one made by google.

Lazy8s · Jun 5, 2021, 08:46 PM

Well, setup has been super easy so far. Apple developed that "Move to iOS" app for android and that saved a lot of work. Beautiful phone, just still have lots of updates and preferences to set up.

Looking forward to learning what changes they've made over the years

Lazy8s · Jun 7, 2021, 10:24 AM

Just to make it official, I love this device. I should have gone with it as a first choice. Calls to and from Mom are crystal clear all the time too and connectivity is crisper and seems faster pretty much all the time.

Apple watch 6 up next.

dodger · Jun 7, 2021, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazy8s

Just to make it official, I love this device. I should have gone with it as a first choice. Calls to and from Mom are crystal clear all the time too and connectivity is crisper and seems faster pretty much all the time.

Apple watch 6 up next.

Wait a week and see what comes out of WWDC (keynote should be in an hour or so). If they add glucose to the series 7 that could be worth the wait unless you got pressing health issues that need monitoring now.

Elysian · Jun 7, 2021, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazy8s

Just to make it official, I love this device. I should have gone with it as a first choice. Calls to and from Mom are crystal clear all the time too and connectivity is crisper and seems faster pretty much all the time.

Apple watch 6 up next.

On sale on Amazon right now:

https://www.amazon.com/New-Apple-Wat...fter04-20&th=1

Lazy8s · Jun 7, 2021, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elysian

On sale on Amazon right now:

https://www.amazon.com/New-Apple-Wat...fter04-20&th=1

Sweet! Thanks

edit: I should get the red one. The wife would be asking "Who the heck are you?"

Quote:

Originally Posted by dodger

Wait a week and see what comes out of WWDC (keynote should be in an hour or so). If they add glucose to the series 7 that could be worth the wait unless you got pressing health issues that need monitoring now.

Just the O2 monitoring for now thankfully. I'll watch anyway though

KAC · Jun 8, 2021, 01:07 AM

Get the Dino strap with Apple Watch to make it hip.
Glad you like the device. Only people without the iPhone experience still advocate non iPhone devices.

Lazy8s · Jun 8, 2021, 03:19 AM

Sometimes it's just preference...Samsung got a lot right with their latest devices. I still prefer their camera on the S21 and the android OS.

That said, everything about the latest iphone is premium, from hardware to call quality, and right now that call quality brings a lot of peace of mind.

I'm going after a conf. call this morning to pick the watch up and I can't wait to get my grubby hands on it. This fitbit I'm using has always felt like a cheap knock off of a cheap knock off lol.

**logical** · Jun 8, 2021, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lazy8s

Sometimes it's just preference...Samsung got a lot right with their latest devices. I still prefer their camera on the S21 and the android OS.

That said, everything about the latest iphone is premium, from hardware to call quality, and right now that call quality brings a lot of peace of mind.

I'm going after a conf. call this morning to pick the watch up and I can't wait to get my grubby hands on it. This fitbit I'm using has always felt like a cheap knock off of a cheap knock off lol.

Cant even compare a fitbit in terms of build quality

I went without an apple watch for a very long time(I didnt pick one up til earlier this year) and I never thought I needed/wanted one. I couldnt figure out where it would fit in my life to justify having it. It wasnt until I got one, reluctantly, to see how it would work for me. Enjoy the watch too

Might as well go hard and pick yourself an iPad

Elysian · Jun 8, 2021, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by logical

Cant even compare a fitbit in terms of build quality

I went without an apple watch for a very long time(I didnt pick one up til earlier this year) and I never thought I needed/wanted one. I couldnt figure out where it would fit in my life to justify having it. It wasnt until I got one, reluctantly, to see how it would work for me. Enjoy the watch too

Might as well go hard and pick yourself an iPad

And a Macbook Pro

I do absolutely love my MBP, which I can't say for iDevices.

Lazy8s · Jun 8, 2021, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by logical

Cant even compare a fitbit in terms of build quality

I went without an apple watch for a very long time(I didnt pick one up til earlier this year) and I never thought I needed/wanted one. I couldnt figure out where it would fit in my life to justify having it. It wasnt until I got one, reluctantly, to see how it would work for me. Enjoy the watch too

Might as well go hard and pick yourself an iPad

I am

the wife is getting for my birthday lol.

My only other Apple watch was the series 2 and I never found anything that even comes close. It was a mistake moving to another brand.

But I have repented

The 6 is sitting on the seat next to me lol.

The ipad comes in August.

Lazy8s · Jun 8, 2021, 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elysian

And a Macbook Pro

I do absolutely love my MBP, which I can't say for iDevices.

My buddy sold his MBP and he's regretting it now.

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Lazy8s One day at a time Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 37,251	I might have to ditch my S21 Ultra for a 12 Pro Max Call waiting is broken, screen freezes. Can't hear whoever is on the other end, even bank menus sometimes, or voicemail. edit: this is random, not all the time... Those 2 are massive deal breakers as a very ill family member can't afford to be hung up on if she needs me. Doesn't like to sync with my laptop on occasion. Carrier updates also hang up (freeze) the phone for minutes at a time, sometimes needing a reboot. Camera is awesome, everything else it does is quick, sweet screen and all that, but the gremlins are really beginning to get to me. And I hate having to reset to hopefully get things right. The other feather in Apples cap is the privacy direction Apple is taking. It's very appealing. Other than the settings menus (preference) and the Apples take on gestures (again, preference) there's not much about the 12 Pro max that isn't appealing. I don't hate the S21, but it's really getting on my last nerve.

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Lazy8s One day at a time Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 37,251	I've got to look at the OnePlus. I've been following the info here about it and read plenty of reviews...seems like a really solid device. I will try to get another phone before doing anything though. It's just maddening that an expensive, brand new flagship phone can be such a pain. I never had any major issues with the Note 8, but I probably won't buy Samsung again after this frustration.

Jun 3, 2021, 10:02 PM	#11
KAC All ur gays r belong 2 me Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lahore Posts: 66,633	Get the iPhone. Everything else is garbage.

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Jun 4, 2021, 07:11 PM	#15
Lazy8s One day at a time Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 37,251	For better or worse I went with the 12 Pro Max for now. I had another call from my mother, couldn't hear her and had visions of her laying on the floor unable to speak. Pushed me over the edge, so I made the call based on Apples new privacy initiatives mostly. We're trying our best to cut out any and all unwanted tracking, accounts and other garbage, so I figured I'd give it a try. Thanks for the feedback guys

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Jun 5, 2021, 08:46 PM	#20
Lazy8s One day at a time Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 37,251	Well, setup has been super easy so far. Apple developed that "Move to iOS" app for android and that saved a lot of work. Beautiful phone, just still have lots of updates and preferences to set up. Looking forward to learning what changes they've made over the years

Jun 7, 2021, 10:24 AM	#21
Lazy8s One day at a time Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 37,251	Just to make it official, I love this device. I should have gone with it as a first choice. Calls to and from Mom are crystal clear all the time too and connectivity is crisper and seems faster pretty much all the time. Apple watch 6 up next.

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Jun 8, 2021, 01:07 AM	#25
KAC All ur gays r belong 2 me Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Lahore Posts: 66,633	Get the Dino strap with Apple Watch to make it hip. Glad you like the device. Only people without the iPhone experience still advocate non iPhone devices.

Jun 8, 2021, 03:19 AM	#26
Lazy8s One day at a time Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 37,251	Sometimes it's just preference...Samsung got a lot right with their latest devices. I still prefer their camera on the S21 and the android OS. That said, everything about the latest iphone is premium, from hardware to call quality, and right now that call quality brings a lot of peace of mind. I'm going after a conf. call this morning to pick the watch up and I can't wait to get my grubby hands on it. This fitbit I'm using has always felt like a cheap knock off of a cheap knock off lol.

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