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Old Jan 14, 2011, 12:56 PM   #211
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I know someone who got Walmart plates. One weighed 39lbs and the other weighed 46lbs. Blech.

I wonder if anyone on CL would buy my ****ty ass plates, I'll probably sell all 800lbs for like $75. Pieces of ****.
yea, that's always a concern. Wal-Mart is great on returns though, so it shouldn't really matter. FWIW, my plates were +/- 2lbs of 45, which is fine by me.
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Deadlifted 285 last night, might do it one more time before tackling 290. Almost out of weights. Rack isn't going to be here until at least Jan21.

Not sure where I will get the plates yet. Considering just buying quality stuff from here on, so I need to check around and price them. I just want a pair of 45's for now. Any recommendations on which plates to buy? I know ice will recommend Ivankos. Any others?


Edit: Looks like a pair of Ivanko plates would be about $240
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Deadlifted 285 last night, might do it one more time before tackling 290. Almost out of weights. Rack isn't going to be here until at least Jan21.

Not sure where I will get the plates yet. Considering just buying quality stuff from here on, so I need to check around and price them. I just want a pair of 45's for now. Any recommendations on which plates to buy? I know ice will recommend Ivankos. Any others?
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^ I think this is your problem. So 2x25min of cardio? Your body is barely getting warmed up in that time much less converting to burning calories. Keep what your doing but non stop cardio of 1hr minimum at a good calorie burning heart rate. Pounds should drop then.
My first session is 30min and my 2nd so far is generally 20 though I did another 30 once. I hope this isn't the problem though because I don't think I could do 1 hour of cardio in one stretch at this point - it'd just be too much for me. I go on the eliptical and i'm at the high end of the cardio heart rate the whole time. At about 8-10 mins I'm getting sweaty and at 30 i'm literally dripping. I hit the weights at this point because I honestly need a break.

Both sessions combined, at least adding up the calories burned as indicated on the machien after i put in my age and weight, is roughly 725 calories (425ish first time, 300ish the 2nd).. plus whatever the weights do for me.

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If your main goal is to lose weight you need to figure out where your BMR sits roughly, there is an equation to calculate but i've found that the online calculators are pretty accurate.

http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/

Once you determine roughly how many calories it takes to sustain your current weight at a sedentary lifestyle any added exercise you will contribute to your caloric deficit, typically 3500 calories is one pound, so just saying if a persons BMR needs are roughly 2500 calories a day and you are actively burning another 1000 - 1500 through exercise and daily duties you have 3500 - 4000 calories to maintain weight anything under that will be a deficit, typically i would aim for around 1500 to 1800 calorie deficit a day, 2000 tops, which equates to ~10500 calories a week or 3 pounds anything more than that you risk shutting down your metabolism and entering starvation mode and your body will retain everything it can including fat , yes it will take from muscle first because fat is the last line of defence. It just takes time.

I would stay between 1800 and 2200 calories per day, lots of fibre and veggies, hold back on the heavy foods but don't deprive yourself either, dump empty calories like drinks with calories and treats like candy. Get a scale and count calories religiously, some people have food journals, never hurts to educate yourself on food habits, can show where you went wrong in the first place and teach you proper portion sizes.

Plan your meals... have a huge salad before your main meal it will help fill you up, stay active take small steps to make things more difficult, walk 10000 steps a day, they don't tell you to walk to lose weight for nothing, it works and it works well, if you are lifting weights you could be gaining muscle which weighs more than fat and can also offset any differences on the scale, and as far as the scale goes you will notice you tend to fluctuate from day to day up and down but will have a tendancy to have a low time during the week as well as a high time.

Don't get discouraged, it's all about figuring out a plan and then seeing it through and tailoring it along the way.

Personally i don't really like male oriented weight loss sites, they tend to be mostly muscle heads, if you just want to lose some weight without being arnold schwarzenegger i suggest a site like 3 fat chicks, it in my opinion is more difficult for women to lose weight with less muscle mass so when they find things that work you best listen and implement similar actions, plus they are a heck of a lot nicer.
thanks for the feedback. it sounds like i'm doing all the right things because i'm implementing most of what you said..right down to the 1800 calories a day. Its early days and I just need to keep at it like you said and I should eventually get results.

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I don't understand getting on a treadmill and slogging away for 30 minutes. If you want to burn fat do some form of interval training. Me, I run sprints.
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My first session is 30min and my 2nd so far is generally 20 though I did another 30 once. I hope this isn't the problem though because I don't think I could do 1 hour of cardio in one stretch at this point - it'd just be too much for me. I go on the eliptical and i'm at the high end of the cardio heart rate the whole time. At about 8-10 mins I'm getting sweaty and at 30 i'm literally dripping. I hit the weights at this point because I honestly need a break.

Both sessions combined, at least adding up the calories burned as indicated on the machien after i put in my age and weight, is roughly 725 calories (425ish first time, 300ish the 2nd).. plus whatever the weights do for me.

Thank you for the feedback though - I'll push myself to go longer when I can.



thanks for the feedback. it sounds like i'm doing all the right things because i'm implementing most of what you said..right down to the 1800 calories a day. Its early days and I just need to keep at it like you said and I should eventually get results.

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I doubt splitting your cardio up is a boon in any way. You're going to keep your heart rate up if your weight training regime is tough. I'd try spending more than 20-30 minutes on weights though, try to go for 40 or more if you can manage.
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Deadlifted 285 last night, might do it one more time before tackling 290. Almost out of weights. Rack isn't going to be here until at least Jan21.

Not sure where I will get the plates yet. Considering just buying quality stuff from here on, so I need to check around and price them. I just want a pair of 45's for now. Any recommendations on which plates to buy? I know ice will recommend Ivankos. Any others?

I assume you want to pick up in person right? If so, Ivankos are likely out of the question. They do have several different types, not just the amazingly awesome ones I want that cost $5000/lb. They make an economy black plate that looks like the ones I have only they're actually good. They're not bad price wise either.

York also makes good stuff depending on what kind you get, their site lists their crap plates along with their good ones though.

Hampton makes some nice ones too, I'll have to let you know of others when I get home.
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Damn, just tried to up my max on shoulder press from 50lbs per arm to 55,my right arm wasn't having it... couldn't even get the weight above my head
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Damn, just tried to up my max on shoulder press from 50lbs per arm to 55,my right arm wasn't having it... couldn't even get the weight above my head
Shoulder press sucks. I started out at 90lbs in Oct and am now at 120lbs, doing 5 sets of 5. The weight just climbs so slow, especially compared to Deadlift, which has gone up considerably. I think I'll be moving to 125 shoulder press soon, but it sure takes a lot of damn work.
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Shoulder press sucks. I started out at 90lbs in Oct and am now at 120lbs, doing 5 sets of 5. The weight just climbs so slow, especially compared to Deadlift, which has gone up considerably. I think I'll be moving to 125 shoulder press soon, but it sure takes a lot of damn work.
Is that per arm or combined weight? I started at 35 per arm
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Is that per arm or combined weight? I started at 35 per arm
Combined, I never do per arm...at least not since I got my Olympic weight set. I do standing shoulder presses with the 7' bar. I don't have the rack yet, so I'm currently cleaning the weight from the floor to chest and then shoulder press from there 5x reps and 5x sets.
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Combined, I never do per arm...at least not since I got my Olympic weight set. I do standing shoulder presses with the 7' bar. I don't have the rack yet, so I'm currently cleaning the weight from the floor to chest and then shoulder press from there 5x reps and 5x sets.
I don't do single arms either, just think of the weight as per arm I think next time I can hit 110, we'll see. I did the 100 and felt quite good about it but then I just couldn't pick up the 110 I do my shoulder presses on a seated bench using individual weights.
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I don't do single arms either, just think of the weight as per arm I think next time I can hit 110, we'll see. I did the 100 and felt quite good about it but then I just couldn't pick up the 110 I do my shoulder presses on a seated bench using individual weights.
I understood what you meant, I did them that way too until I bought the new weight set. Shoulder presses are tough as hell, but it sure seems effective! Im going to keep shoulder presses with my program I think when the cage arrives. Will probably do 2x shoulder press days for every 1x bench press. Still putting together the routine, so we will see. I just need to get doing squats as soon as possible.
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I understood what you meant, I did them that way too until I bought the new weight set. Shoulder presses are tough as hell, but it sure seems effective! Im going to keep shoulder presses with my program I think when the cage arrives. Will probably do 2x shoulder press days for every 1x bench press. Still putting together the routine, so we will see. I just need to get doing square as soon as possible.
It's up to you but I would take it easy with shoulders. You over-work them and you're going to hurt something. You'll nurse a shoulder injury for years and it will eat into your workouts. I do shoulders once a week and that is more than enough.
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It's up to you but I would take it easy with shoulders. You over-work them and you're going to hurt something. You'll nurse a shoulder injury for years and it will eat into your workouts. I do shoulders once a week and that is more than enough.
That's all I do as well, once a week is more than enough I feel. My left shoulder, when I started, used to pop any time I'd do a rep, that's since gone away thankfully, I was pretty scared I'd injure my shoulder because of that.
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I don't understand getting on a treadmill and slogging away for 30 minutes. If you want to burn fat do some form of interval training. Me, I run sprints.
Because training at or below your VT1 (zone 1 cardio), fat is the primary source of fuel. That's why the machines are pretty damn slow in the fat burn cycle when you look at the graphs printed on them.
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It's up to you but I would take it easy with shoulders. You over-work them and you're going to hurt something. You'll nurse a shoulder injury for years and it will eat into your workouts. I do shoulders once a week and that is more than enough.
Any proof that I'm overworking them? I really don't think that's the case. I've been doing it every other day for over 3mo. Never any issues. I have good form, never any pain, and I've made great progress. I haven't read anything that contradicts what I've been doing thus far. I've been following pretty closely with a book that I have.

Not arguing, just looking for further education on it and proof. I'll continue what I've been doing and keep meeting my goals/makin progress until I am directed otherwise by proof.
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As long as form is proper and you have no existing issues, your shoulders can be worked more than once a week. Shoulders are a bitch because they aren't forgiving, so that one time your form slips up you could severely jack something up, but it's fairly easy to tell when you push anything too hard.

The problem a lot of people have is they don't do any rehab type stuff for shoulders. When you get to pushing a good amount of weight, you should be doing the basic exercises with the girly pink dumbbells that physical therapy would have you do. Rotator cuff etc. stuff. I'm guilty of not doing it as well.
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Any proof that I'm overworking them? I really don't think that's the case. I've been doing it every other day for over 3mo. Never any issues. I have good form, never any pain, and I've made great progress. I haven't read anything that contradicts what I've been doing thus far. I've been following pretty closely with a book that I have.

Not arguing, just looking for further education on it and proof. I'll continue what I've been doing and keep meeting my goals/makin progress until I am directed otherwise by proof.
Obviously everyone is different. If it's working for you then keep it up. I've just seen a lot of rotator cuff and tendonitis issues creep up on guys.

Myself, I've got an issue in my left shoulder that flares up every now and again after I hurt it doing weighted dips.
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Old Jan 14, 2011, 05:15 PM   #231
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As long as form is proper and you have no existing issues, your shoulders can be worked more than once a week. Shoulders are a bitch because they aren't forgiving, so that one time your form slips up you could severely jack something up, but it's fairly easy to tell when you push anything too hard.

The problem a lot of people have is they don't do any rehab type stuff for shoulders. When you get to pushing a good amount of weight, you should be doing the basic exercises with the girly pink dumbbells that physical therapy would have you do. Rotator cuff etc. stuff. I'm guilty of not doing it as well.
Pretty much what I was trying to get at.
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I don't understand getting on a treadmill and slogging away for 30 minutes. If you want to burn fat do some form of interval training. Me, I run sprints.


Being 80 pounds over weight and out of shape might have something to do with it, weight loss isn't a race, it's a journey, if one just jumps off the couch and does as you say they will probably injure themselves or have a heart attack.

Losing weight is only half the battle, the fact that one is over weight indicates lack of knowledge and a poor relationship with food, just starving yourself to lose weight and then returning to your former patterns will only result in a return of the weight, attempting to much and injuring yourself will effectively cripple your only asset to burn calories ~ your body.

Walking is ideal because it is easier on your joints and maintains an elevated heart rate for longer periods than running due to the time it takes to go the same distance, sure you might burn at a faster rate running but you would not run the same duration of time as one might walk, the number one factor for burn is time spent not the greatest effort.
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Obviously everyone is different. If it's working for you then keep it up. I've just seen a lot of rotator cuff and tendonitis issues creep up on guys.

Myself, I've got an issue in my left shoulder that flares up every now and again after I hurt it doing weighted dips.
No problem, I understand...and appreciate the advice/concern. I'm basically still starting out. I've made good progress (in my eyes) but am careful about how and when I add weights and am always working on my form and trying to keep it inline. I'm doing core strength training right now and the standing shoulder presses are highly recommended for that, along with deadlifting and squats.

When I start getting higher in the weights and start focusing on individual muscle groups, I won't be hitting the shoulders so hard. As for now, I'm enjoying the routine and am making steady progress. It's been virtually pain free and slow-going...but that's just fine with me as long as progress is being made. I'm in no hurry.

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You're right man. I understand having to lose weight before you can actually start to lose weight. I wasn't implying that someone who is out of shape should start working out by running pyramid wind sprints. Also, there's a difference between being "fit" by some standard or another and being athletic. I see people at the gym slogging away on the treadmill that look "fit" but who can't go both ways during a pickup game of hoops.

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You'll make awesome gains when you start out so don't forget to start mixing things up when you begin to plateau. Looks like you're off to a great start.
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Being 80 pounds over weight and out of shape might have something to do with it, weight loss isn't a race, it's a journey, if one just jumps off the couch and does as you say they will probably injure themselves or have a heart attack.

Losing weight is only half the battle, the fact that one is over weight indicates lack of knowledge and a poor relationship with food, just starving yourself to lose weight and then returning to your former patterns will only result in a return of the weight, attempting to much and injuring yourself will effectively cripple your only asset to burn calories ~ your body.

Walking is ideal because it is easier on your joints and maintains an elevated heart rate for longer periods than running due to the time it takes to go the same distance, sure you might burn at a faster rate running but you would not run the same duration of time as one might walk, the number one factor for burn is time spent not the greatest effort.
That's why after a workout I'll walk my dogs for 4mi or more. I'd never be able to run that but I sure as hell can handle it at a brisk pace.
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Definitely, I'll keep that in mind. Once I get to where I want to be with the core building stuff, I'll start to focus on individual muscle groups and will mix everything up as needed. I have a very long way to go though...
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Same arm routine as last week, complete with GIF!

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Went to the gym for the first time in like 4 months and did Squats, Bench Presses, Deadlifts and Dips... freakin' grad school. I feel way better already, clearly I need to just blow off some of the work I was doing and get to the gym 3 times a week.
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