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Old Apr 9, 2021, 01:55 PM   #811
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213 Failed cards (includes 37 RMA failures but not multiple RMA Failures)
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66% with data for origin came from Taiwan
87% of the 130 cards with data for power delivery, claimed to have used dedicated cables.
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213 cards is a very small number bill..
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After hanging out in a Discord buying server for weeks, I finally got a shot at an AMD Reference 6800 XT Midnight Black. As soon as the notify went out I was all over it, and actually completed the buy!

I think part of the reason I succeeded is they added a ReCaptcha and for me it didn't require me to actually fill it in either time during checkout, just clicked it and it completed (I've noticed with ReCaptchas that if you've completed it recently on another site, it doesn't seem to require it again for certain amount of time). I guess this makes up for the 6800 XT I passed up a few months ago that I had in cart but didn't check out because I wanted to wait for an AIB (at the time I didn't realize how bad the shortage was going to get or that the non-reference cards would be so badly overpriced).

So, anyway, as long as my order doesn't get cancelled or something, I should have a 6800 XT on the way. I'm happy because the 6800 XT ref is one of the best buys terms of price/performance on the market now, edging out the Nvidia reference 3080, and everything from the AIBs since they've tacked on $200-$300 to the MSRP.

I'd have gone for a 6900 XT reference as well had that come up instead (another notify came out around the same time, but I was already checking out with the 6800 XT). I guess I'm happier to get the 6800 XT due to better price/performance (6900 XT is only 15% faster for 50% more), but actually the premium of the 6900 XT isn't that egregious, and there's something to be said for having "the best". But, anyway, 6800 XT is what I managed to nab.

If anyone is looking for a card, trolling for the weekly AMD drop may be one of your better options. It seems like it's less heavily botted than other sites, so you might actually have a chance of completing a buy. I had zero success on Amazon, even running 12 instances of a buying bot, and Best Buy seems like a totally lost cause (wait for the buy button to turn yellow, and by the time you click it the card is out of stock again). Walmart I actually got to checkout but then it sold out before I could complete it; I fumbled the checkout a bit, but honestly I probably wasn't even close anyway.
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Dang I thought those were a one time thing for red team members only...

You got it at MSRP?
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After hanging out in a Discord buying server for weeks, I finally got a shot at an AMD Reference 6800 XT Midnight Black. As soon as the notify went out I was all over it, and actually completed the buy!
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Nice a successful hunt, didn't think it was possible any longer. I was just play hunting the last few days with the Discord Amazon notify's on 3090's, I got to the pay point so there was a chance I could have bought. Wasn't looking to buy so didn't press the button. Was only $1869 plus tax.
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Nice a successful hunt, didn't think it was possible any longer. I was just play hunting the last few days with the Discord Amazon notify's on 3090's, I got to the pay point so there was a chance I could have bought. Wasn't looking to buy so didn't press the button. Was only $1869 plus tax.
The only 3090 that's even worth considering, from a price point, is the FE.

I should have kept the one I got from BB considering what a regular 3080 is going for now.....
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The only 3090 that's even worth considering, from a price point, is the FE.

I should have kept the one I got from BB considering what a regular 3080 is going for now.....
I was surprised you didn’t keep it, could have sold the 3080 to cover it.
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I was surprised you didn’t keep it, could have sold the 3080 to cover it.
I know, especially in these crazy prices but the performance difference is so minimal..... whatever, my bad.
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Dang I thought those were a one time thing for red team members only...

You got it at MSRP?
Yeah, straight from the AMD store. Regarding the Red Team thing, I think that was a bit of a fiasco. Like they just announced it early to them, but then it wasn't actually restricted, and when it went live whoever wanted to could buy them. Apparently they're now restocking them. I didn't go specifically for the Midnight, it just happened to be the one that I saw the notification for.
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I know, especially in these crazy prices but the performance difference is so minimal..... whatever, my bad.
3090 is still a hard sell for me. With the crazy pricing, it's easy to start to normalize things, but in the end over $1500 for such a small performance increase over the 3080 still isn't really worth it. But the AIBs make it easy because they are charging $1800+ where it just becomes ridiculous!

I will say in 20/20 hindsight, for those who really wanted a new card the 3090 FE didn't end up looking that bad, considering the 3080 meant a long wait, if you got it at all.
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3090 is still a hard sell for me. With the crazy pricing, it's easy to start to normalize things, but in the end over $1500 for such a small performance increase over the 3080 still isn't really worth it. But the AIBs make it easy because they are charging $1800+ where it just becomes ridiculous!

I will say in 20/20 hindsight, for those who really wanted a new card the 3090 FE didn't end up looking that bad, considering the 3080 meant a long wait, if you got it at all.
Yeah, thanks for reminding me why I didn't keep it.
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The performance increase is there at 4K with an AIB model on a 500watt BIOS. It can exceed 20% faster if you tweak. IMO, worth it for high res gamers. Anything besides 4K? Nope.
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I'll admit, I fully bought this MSI Trio X 6900 XT at $1400, with full intention to sell for profit to pay towards something else. But the more I see these prices increasing, I've convinced myself to just keep it. The performance is rather insane, and more than I could ever need for 1440p. I might aswell keep the card I secured, at least I "technically" paid below the $1599 MSRP of the card.

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I bet around fall with school kicking back in, we are going to see prices increase more.
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The 6800 XT finally shipped, which is a relief. I was worried it might get cancelled or something!

Still it took like half a week to ship and then shipped with like the slowest shipping speed possible, so in the end it will take 1 1/2 weeks to arrive.

As things stand, I'm just glad to have gotten the card, but under normal circumstances I would be a bit miffed.
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The 6800 XT finally shipped, which is a relief. I was worried it might get cancelled or something!

Still it took like half a week to ship and then shipped with like the slowest shipping speed possible, so in the end it will take 1 1/2 weeks to arrive.

As things stand, I'm just glad to have gotten the card, but under normal circumstances I would be a bit miffed.
Yeah, nothing normal these days, glad card on its way to you. Looking forward to your impressions.
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The only 3090 that's even worth considering, from a price point, is the FE.

I should have kept the one I got from BB considering what a regular 3080 is going for now.....
Don't agree. I wanted an AIB 3090 because I didn't like that 12 pin connector in the middle of the card. Much happier with the two eight pin connectors on the AIB cards and I only spent 10% over FE MSRP so reasonable for an AIB card.

Just seen a 3080 drop for £1,699.99 so glad to have purchased my 3090 for £1,549 it feels like a bargain. Happy chappy gaming to the max yeah bring it on.
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The 6800 XT finally shipped, which is a relief. I was worried it might get cancelled or something!

Still it took like half a week to ship and then shipped with like the slowest shipping speed possible, so in the end it will take 1 1/2 weeks to arrive.

As things stand, I'm just glad to have gotten the card, but under normal circumstances I would be a bit miffed.
I hope it gets to you safely and quickly.
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And you are correct, carry on.
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Post up a photo when you get it.

I'm still playing division 2 on my phantom. Mostly on weekends. Runs the game well though I still have to keep dx12 turned off or I see crashes. That game is notorious for that though, and the issue was there on my 2080ti.
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Not exactly surprising, it's a nVidia sponsored title.
The part that caught my attention was the lack of progress of the AMD solution 6 months after being announced.
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The part that caught my attention was the lack of progress of the AMD solution 6 months after being announced.


didn't it take NV 6 months + to add DLSS 1.0 to a lot of games and it was most often bad to start and they were working on it for years before the 2080 ti
and they didn't really have it working fairly well till almost the 3000's came out

DLSS caught AMD off guard i think and i don't think they will catch up till the 7000's hit
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