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Falck Sep 24, 2021 03:48 PM

so 194 is final?

Nascar24 Sep 24, 2021 10:40 PM

So I checked if I can leave the dev channel and no dice, only way to leave now is by a full reinstall. Bleh, I thought you could easily move about this chit, I guess not. I guess I stay here until I have some major problem. Updated to the current release after just installing a few days ago and had an install failure on first attempt, second attempt worked so all was good, last build wasnt all that smooth for me. had terrible mouse lag until everything loaded and some taskbar crashes. Lets see how this one goes.:o

lmchv Sep 25, 2021 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Falck (Post 1338307254)
so 194 is final?

They usually release the RTM version for Technical Preview channel before general availability, so yes, this should be the version being released on Oct 5th, unless some major bug happens.

Munkus Sep 25, 2021 01:45 PM

There are still quite a few bugs to be ironed out. Even blatant ones like some of the Windows Update Advanced Options crashing when you select them. But Windows is never truly finished. It's "good enough" for the general public now, and bug fixes will be a regular thing just like with Win 10.

Nascar24 Sep 25, 2021 07:18 PM

Yep, latest build in the Dev channel is no different, everything has to load before the mouse lag stops, maybe I will try hibernate to get around it.

Edit: So having everything already loaded works for this but I have never been that fond of hibernate, we will see, in my years using it, it either turns itself on by itself or fails to properly load at times. we will see, I have a chit load of stuff loading at startup but it never seemed to bother windows 10. Its always the same with a new OS though, takes months to get it all right. Works fine once everything is up.

barleystout Sep 28, 2021 03:17 PM

Does anyone know if the following is implemented in Win 11?

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/direc...rearrangement/

lmchv Sep 28, 2021 05:22 PM

And Windows Hello broke today, it just does not work with my Logitech Brio. It was working fine after upgrade some days ago, but now refuses to work again. :bleh:

Nascar24 Sep 28, 2021 07:36 PM

The Dev build on my system I cant pull the calendar or notifies up when I want, Its funny because a half hour later it will all of a sudden start working and pop up and stay working for a while and then fail again like now.

Nascar24 Sep 30, 2021 07:20 AM

Anybody ever been in the Dev channel? Is it normal they just put out new builds every 3 to 5 days and dont use normal updates? I was expecting maybe a build every few months and they would just use updates, this reloading windows every few days to get those updates is ridiculous. Probably will have to do a reload when 11 comes out if that's the case, Should have waited I guess.

pax Sep 30, 2021 10:45 AM

Anyone try this tool to bypass the hw check requirements?

https://gist.github.com/AveYo/c74dc7...b5d65613187b15

Quote:

Universal MediaCreationTool wrapper for all MCT Windows 10 versions from 1507 to 21H1 with business (Enterprise) edition support

A powerful yet simple windows 1X deployment automation tool as well!

awesome gui dialogs to pick windows version and preset action
Auto Setup choice for upgrade directly without prompts, with edition change / intelligent fallback
Create ISO choice for authoring iso file directly via DIR2ISO snippet, including any 'oem' customizations
Create USB choice for authoring usb via native MCT, including any 'oem' customizations (prompts once)
Select in MCT choice for vanilla MCT processing without 'oem' modifications, script quits straightway
control via set script vars, commandline parameters or rename script like iso 21H2 Pro MediaCreationTool.bat
set recommended windows setup options that give the least amount of issues when doing upgrades
pickup $OEM$ folder with post setup tweaks like $OEM$\$$\Setup\Scripts\ setupcomplete.cmd or OOBE.cmd
write sources\PID.txt file to preselect edition at media boot or windows setup
write auto.cmd file to run auto setup without prompts from media, on demand
11: Skip TPM Check on media boot via winpeshl.ini file (cleaner than altering system hive directly)
11: Skip TPM Check on dynamic update - system-wide (works for insider previews), also as standalone toggle script

Munkus Sep 30, 2021 11:16 AM

Honestly, Win 11 isn't worth jumping through hoops to get and install. If your hardware is supported, by all means upgrade. If not...stick with Win 10. You're not missing much.

lmchv Oct 1, 2021 05:26 PM

I have 6 computers at home, only 3 support Windows 11. On the other 3 I will deploy Windows 11 after it's officially out, have an old Surface Pro 3 for testing :D

My main desktop runs Windows 11 smoothly, the Hello issue is solved, somehow...

acroig Oct 2, 2021 11:56 AM

Just installed on the Lenovo laptop. No issues so far.

LordHawkwind Oct 2, 2021 04:31 PM

Installed a few weeks ago and all is well. No BSOD's or anything like that. Seems very stable. Games play fine so not complaining.

koralis Oct 2, 2021 07:45 PM

https://www.pcgamer.com/windows-11-p...g-performance/

Beware VBS.. Virtualization. Can hurt game framer ate by 28%

acroig Oct 2, 2021 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koralis (Post 1338308241)
https://www.pcgamer.com/windows-11-p...g-performance/

Beware VBS.. Virtualization. Can hurt game framer ate by 28%

You saw this, right?

"And if you're upgrading from Windows 10 to Windows 11 then you don't have to worry about VBS being enabled, unless you were already running an enterprise version of the older OS, that is. The issue comes if you're receiving a machine which has had an OEM build of Windows 11 installed on it."

Munkus Oct 3, 2021 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acroig (Post 1338308242)
You saw this, right?

"And if you're upgrading from Windows 10 to Windows 11 then you don't have to worry about VBS being enabled, unless you were already running an enterprise version of the older OS, that is. The issue comes if you're receiving a machine which has had an OEM build of Windows 11 installed on it."

I upgraded from 10 to 11 via the ISO, and in my case VBS is enabled. :( I'm using Pro, not Enterprise or whatever if that matters. I don't recall whether it was turned on in Win 10. It's a bizitch to turn off VBS though.:mad:

acroig Oct 3, 2021 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Munkus (Post 1338308309)
I upgraded from 10 to 11 via the ISO, and in my case VBS is enabled. :( I'm using Pro, not Enterprise or whatever if that matters. I don't recall whether it was turned on in Win 10. It's a bizitch to turn off VBS though.:mad:

:eek:

Lazy8s Oct 4, 2021 08:44 AM

Iím still holding off for a while. I donít expect issues due to acroigís success with it (same exact laptops) but I donít want to be an early adopter this time around.

Munkus Oct 4, 2021 10:39 AM

I figured out how to permanently disable VBS, but honestly I'm not seeing any difference in fps in games.

Notbilly Oct 4, 2021 02:43 PM

Munkus, what did you do to turn off VBS? I'm still on Win10 but noticed that, per MSInfo, VBS is already running on my PC (maybe b/c I use the hypervisor for WSL2?). Was it just a registry edit to do it?

eNforcer Oct 5, 2021 07:58 AM

Installed it yesterday via the official Installation Assistant, also created a bootable USB installer with the official Media Creation Tool just in case.

It's fine, I like most of it so far. There's a lot of evidence being posted that the UI is largely just a skin, screenshots and gifs of the old Win 10 UI glitching through the new Win 11 UI. I'm hoping this isn't hurting performance, it doesn't "feel" like it is though.

I actually kind of miss being able to group pinned apps in the start menu, but the Win 10 start menu was a huge waste of usable space.

The clipboard history tool is very useful, check it out. Enable it in the settings and hit Win + V.

Nascar24 Oct 5, 2021 08:10 AM

Not at home to check in Windows 11 but in Windows 10 you can turn off VBS by searching Device security and there are options to turn it on and off in there.

Nascar24 Oct 5, 2021 08:14 AM

As much as I dont want to, I'm probably going to drop out of the Insider preview Dev crap and install the release version of Windows 11. Don't like how the Dev preview channel works with constant new builds that require reinstalls every time you want to go to the next. And there is no way to drop out of it without a reinstall! Bleh!

Nunz Oct 5, 2021 08:23 AM

Enabled TPM and just installed Win11. I really like the new taskbar, this thing is sweet for a 38" ultrawide! Not a huge fan of this start menu, though .. I'm sure it'll grow on me

Munkus Oct 5, 2021 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Notbilly (Post 1338308500)
Munkus, what did you do to turn off VBS? I'm still on Win10 but noticed that, per MSInfo, VBS is already running on my PC (maybe b/c I use the hypervisor for WSL2?). Was it just a registry edit to do it?

There was more to it than that, but TBH I tried so many things and eventually found the winning combination. I think it was a combination of registry changes and uninstalling Windows Defender Application Guard. Regardless, I didn't see a huge jump in fps in games, so I'm not sure about the claim that VBS causes a 28% performance hit. I'm probably going to reinstall App Guard and undo the registry changes just so I have max protection.

acroig Oct 5, 2021 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nunz (Post 1338308573)
Not a huge fan of this start menu, though .. I'm sure it'll grow on me

Same here.

Munkus Oct 5, 2021 08:46 AM

I don't like the new Start menu or where it's positioned. Luckily it's easy to move it back to the left side. Also, Stardock just released Start11 to bring back the old Start menu I love, so that's an option if Microsoft's new design doesn't flick your Bic. (arcane reference there...who gets it?)

Nunz Oct 5, 2021 09:00 AM

I was going to just do the upgrade from Win10 but I'm gonna reformat. Just need to backup some pics and get the ISO on my flash drive.

Mangler Oct 5, 2021 10:05 AM

Is auto-hdr available in the current version of win11?


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