I sold my soul

[GSGRUNT]

But why? Why would people not want RTX features? I can understand for the low to mid end (like the 1660) but if you are going to even spend 600 on a card wouldn't you want that capability?

I've been playing Metro Exodus and I love the benefits it brings to lighting. BFV reflections are pretty good too (and performance is decent with the latest patch).

What you suggest is like buying a fancy high end car but with no options/crank windows.

For some people, high FPS at high resolution is king.
I almost always turn shadows down to medium because the performance hit is not worth it. Until the FPS cost of ray tracing is negligible I don't think I will turn it on while playing a game.

 

[logical]

But why? Why would people not want RTX features? I can understand for the low to mid end (like the 1660) but if you are going to even spend 600 on a card wouldn't you want that capability?

I've been playing Metro Exodus and I love the benefits it brings to lighting. BFV reflections are pretty good too (and performance is decent with the latest patch).

What you suggest is like buying a fancy high end car but with no options/crank windows.

Depends on what RTX is worth. If it will knock 300 bucks off of the price I am sure a ton of people would skip RTX 2080 and get a GTX2080. The performance vs cost goes up dramatically and a **** ton of people dont give a **** about RTX features.

 

[GTwannabe]

But why? Why would people not want RTX features? I can understand for the low to mid end (like the 1660) but if you are going to even spend 600 on a card wouldn't you want that capability?

I've been playing Metro Exodus and I love the benefits it brings to lighting. BFV reflections are pretty good too (and performance is decent with the latest patch).

What you suggest is like buying a fancy high end car but with no options/crank windows.

Massive performance hit for "meh" visual improvement. I have to specifically look for the RT effects in RTX On/Off screenshots. Not going to do that in game. High refresh, 4K, and real HDR are much more impressive than RTX IMO.

 

[acroig]

But why? Why would people not want RTX features? I can understand for the low to mid end (like the 1660) but if you are going to even spend 600 on a card wouldn't you want that capability?

I've been playing Metro Exodus and I love the benefits it brings to lighting. BFV reflections are pretty good too (and performance is decent with the latest patch).

What you suggest is like buying a fancy high end car but with no options/crank windows.

Agreed. When you see metro Exodus with rtx on you want rt in all games from now on.

 

[bill dennison]

Agreed. When you see metro Exodus with rtx on you want rt in all games from now on.

but the fake ones in division 2 are not that shabby
and having 55 to 70 FPS at 4k without DLSS is cool also


and 9.5 on the vault

 

[Exposed]

Massive performance hit for "meh" visual improvement. I have to specifically look for the RT effects in RTX On/Off screenshots. Not going to do that in game. High refresh, 4K, and real HDR are much more impressive than RTX IMO.

It wasn't "meh" in Metro or Battlefield 5. Loved the outdoor global illumination in Metro and it was really noticeable in many areas, especially in Volga because of the snow.

And no one is pointing a gun in your head to turn RTX features on. I specifically bought the 2080Ti just for the performance gain but once I saw Battlefield 5, and then later Metro in person, RTX is something I'm going to use, even if I have to drop from 4k to 1440p or use DLSS.

There will not be a non RTX version of the 2080/2080Ti because that would be an entirely different chip. You'd only see that if there are large batches of Turing cards where the tensor/rtx cores were defective enough where the whole thing needs to be turned off. Yields are great so the best you can expect is maybe a price drop in the future.

 

[demo]

BFV is meh to the extreme.. Metro though, there are a few scenes I've seen where it looks amazing.