GTA 3, VC and SA play better on a 10 year old 8800GTS than 6970 or 280x

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Whats up with that?
Both my cards, 6970 and 280X lag like crap, especially playing San Andreas but my wifes computer with a 8800GTS plays them like a champ, 0 lag on max settings.
Both are Windows 7 64bit

Why is this?
:nuts:
 
Story of my life men. Those are my favorite games, I had 7500/8500/1600XT/2600XT/3850/5850 and now 7870, same story :( Once we had flip queue size, that helped just a bit, but still bad experience.

It's long way from Radeon 7500 to 7870, and after buying 7870 which at launch was not cheap for me...I'm just tired.

I still wish to play flawlessly my GTA games, but f. :down:
 
Ok, for me changing the memory controller from unganged to ganged in the bios got GTA 4 from unplayable to very smooth...have not tried it for gta3

There are a couple other games that seem to benefit as well.

I have a fx8350 and a 7970
 
Ok, for me changing the memory controller from unganged to ganged in the bios got GTA 4 from unplayable to very smooth...have not tried it for gta3

There are a couple other games that seem to benefit as well.

I have a fx8350 and a 7970

Adding your system specs can help. What's your motherboard...? I haven't seen "ganged/unganged" setting in an AMD bios in so long I can't recall the last time I saw it...;)
 
Always been the case for me as well, the original GTA3 would become laggy after 5 minutes of play, Vice City I think was more or less acceptable, and SA would run at 24fps which gave me horrible headaches.

When I switched to nVidia, all these games run perfect and I can disable frame limiter and Vsync still works so I get nice and smooth 60fps.
 
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:mad: just hoping that GTA 5 would be a different story.

P.S.
ganged/unganged no difference in performance...
 
asus crosshair formula z, latest bios 2101.
also the same on M5A97 EVO R2.0

I guess you might see 64bit/128bit switch in the bios on some boards...

A few issues with doing it are, your other cpu cores tend not to park/sleep even when mostly inactive I thinks it due to the fact that they must remain active to use the othe memory controller.

And I suspect some heavily multithreaded stuff might suffer as well.
I only ever enabled it on my gaming machine.

@ Joe is that no difference for gta3?
 
I disabled core parking and it seems to have helped quite a bit...

- Find this key:- " 0cc5b647-c1df-4637-891a-dec35c318583 "

- Within this key, there is a value called: " ValueMax "

- This value represents the % number of cores the system will park - the default 100% ie: all Cores are potentially park-able

- Change the value from 64 to 0 so the " ValueMin " and " ValueMax " are both zero

- You will have to find the key a few times and repeat the process for each time it is found - the number of instances will depend on the number of power profiles in your system [ in my DAW it was only found twice ]

- Do a full shutdown and power-off and cold-re-start
 
I disabled core parking and it seems to have helped quite a bit...

- Find this key:- " 0cc5b647-c1df-4637-891a-dec35c318583 "

- Within this key, there is a value called: " ValueMax "

- This value represents the % number of cores the system will park - the default 100% ie: all Cores are potentially park-able

- Change the value from 64 to 0 so the " ValueMin " and " ValueMax " are both zero

- You will have to find the key a few times and repeat the process for each time it is found - the number of instances will depend on the number of power profiles in your system [ in my DAW it was only found twice ]

- Do a full shutdown and power-off and cold-re-start
Very good advice, that's the first thing to do on a new gaming rig. Did that for my new Core I7 rig with a clean windows install the day I got it.
 
cool, seems my tweak might have worked for me because of that as side a effect...

Though be aware disabling parking will probably stop turbo from working ...if u use it at all.
 
Are you saying that you tried disable parking method on AMD and it worked, because I see you have Intel cpu?
 
Are you saying that you tried disable parking method on AMD and it worked, because I see you have Intel cpu?
My previous RIG was full AMD (1100T and HD6870), it's still running in the house since I gave it to family. I'm upgrading approx. once every two or three generations of graphic cards, and this time there was no AMD CPU coming even remotely close to an Intel one performance/price wise, and I had spare money.
On both Intel and AMD, disabling core parking can only be beneficial for a gaming machine.
Core parking isn't really a "hardware" CPU feature, it's a Windows feature.
 
I still find it laggy, maybe not as bad with core parking disabled but a 280X, 6 core cpu and 16GB of ram should rip these game a new one without trying.
Shoot I used to play these on a 3200 barton and a 9800 with 1GB of ram no sweat.
Windows 98 used to rock these games.

Even a GeForce4 MX 440 could play these.
 
My previous RIG was full AMD (1100T and HD6870), it's still running in the house since I gave it to family. I'm upgrading approx. once every two or three generations of graphic cards, and this time there was no AMD CPU coming even remotely close to an Intel one performance/price wise, and I had spare money.
On both Intel and AMD, disabling core parking can only be beneficial for a gaming machine.
Core parking isn't really a "hardware" CPU feature, it's a Windows feature.
Ya its pretty sad, AMD is getting ridiculous.

This chart says it all...
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html
 
Ya its pretty sad, AMD is getting ridiculous.

This chart says it all...
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html
The prices make it even more sad...

The best AMD of the list:
AMD FX-9590 Eight-Core 1,713 $239.99

And then you have:
Intel Core i5-4590 @ 3.30GHz 2,122 $199.99

No further comment needed I guess.

Very happy with my 290x though. Better cards have been released inbetween of course, but she still runs everything I throw at her at max settings with excellent FPS.
 
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