15.7.1 WHQL drivers now out

The Mac said:
you bought an LSI add-on card in addition to the on-board LSI controller?

geez, you must need a lot of drives...
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This one doesn't have that controller, but there is a version of it that does.....


Indeed I do, and don't feel like throwing away perfectly good SSD's that were expensive when they were bought.....The oldest are a pair of Intel 530 drives (120GB each), that are now 4 years old, cost me 800$ at the time for both, but still crank out 850 MB/sec read speeds and 550 MB/sec writes just fine (setup in raid 0), so dumping those for lack of sata headers is just wrong.


They're still plenty useful and more than fast enough.....
 
This is the version that has the LSI controller:


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It's more server oriented by having 16 memory slots and up to 512GB of ram onboard ( I make do with 256GB and 8 slots on mine as a maximum), and having 18 Sata ports but with the tradeoff that quad SLI or quad crossfire using 4 cards isn't happening.....The extra ram slots take up the space that the 7th PCI-e slot would need....


I suppose it's still possible to have Quad Crossfire using a pair of dual GPU cards, but the Fury X2's aren't out yet, and i'd only want them with 8GB on each GPU anyhow.....Would be a crime to sell a 1000$+ card with what effectively amounts to 4GB on the card as DX12 games will only start to happen by sometime next year, so the majority of gaming is going to be done using DX11 for the near term, including all it's built in limitations relative to multi GPU.....


Can still slide on a 650$ card, but not on one selling for twice as much most likely.


http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=38_1244_505_957_1116&item_id=057317
 
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General AMD question since i'm rusty on it.

So, in 3d application settings, I can't figure out how to get to specific game profiles.

I only have System settings, and application settings.

But application settings only has "+Add"


When i click Add and select for example ACU.exe, i'm told a profile for that already exist, do I want to override it.

But I don't want to override it, I want to edit the existing profile.
 
reason why it asks you if you want to override it is because there is already an ACU.exe profile embedded in the drivers.
Go ahead and answer yes, you will now have an ACU.exe profile which effectively overrides the one provided by AMD, and it will use the settings you decide.
Should you decide to remove it, CCC will go back and use AMD's original.
 
AMD profiles are low level driver tweaks, you cant modify those, only override them.

Install radeon pro, you can modify on top of AMD profiles.
 
Lurk said:
reason why it asks you if you want to override it is because there is already an ACU.exe profile embedded in the drivers.
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I'm just used to nvidia, where you can for example just change AF in a game profile, everything else stays as nvidia made it.

The override question in CCC made it sound like it removes all the AMD driver level tweaks from the game profile, which I guess I thought would lower performance in the game or something.
 
I don't know if overriding the profile eliminates all embedded tweaks.
I can tell you I've experimented with the feature quite a bit and haven't really seen games performing noticeably worse. The least that can happen is artifacts and flickering menus.

As for Radeon Pro I'd stay away from it at this point. It hasn't been updated for way too long.
 
GanjaStar said:
I'm just used to nvidia, where you can for example just change AF in a game profile, everything else stays as nvidia made it.

The override question in CCC made it sound like it removes all the AMD driver level tweaks from the game profile, which I guess I thought would lower performance in the game or something.
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as i said, radeon pro will do that for you and leave AMDs profile in tact (other than what you chose to override) Plus there are extras like tipple buffering, and post processing (SMAA and Sweetfx)

It hasnt been updated in a while, as the dev went to work for Raptr, but it is still fully functional.

It is a "must have" utility for any serious AMD tweaker...
 
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driver architecture has radically changed since the last release of RadeonPro. I prefer not to use it anymore.
 
Lurk said:
driver architecture has radically changed since the last release of RadeonPro. I prefer not to use it anymore.
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still works perfectly on every single game for me.

Driver changes dont change DX Hooks and AMD's ADL interfaces which is what rp uses.
 
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The Mac said:
still works perfectly on every single game for me.

Driver changes dont change DX Hooks and AMD's ADL interfaces which is what rp uses.
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I've had it arbitrarily change 3D settings in CCC, causing discrepancies, while D3DOverrider and Rivatuner Statistic Server can take care of triple buffering and frame limit with a lesser memory footprint.
I'd rather not fiddle with an application that has low level access and hasn't been updated since 2013.
In my case it makes no difference in the games I play, but I recon it is still used by many.
 
I'm disappointed with the Asus service regarding support for 4 way crossfire using 4 separate cards, and have been waiting for months for an updated bios, after I informed tech support of the issue back in march, so without further ado, meet the supermicro X9DRG-qf:


This is the motherboard may be changing towards, as the current Asus board also has some limits relative to memory capacity ( 8 slots, 256 GB memory capacity maximum), since I plan on adding at least another 128 GB of ram, but don't want to scrap the existing memory, which with it being registered and ECC is not exactly cheap, and it needs to be a board that can support 4 GPU's at full PCI-e 3.0 X16 speeds, so without further ado:


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16 memory slots with a 1 TB ( yes, 1024 GB) memory capacity, and I plan on plugging in my current cards and either a pair Intel E5 2690's (10 core / 20 thread , 3 Ghz base, 3.8 Ghz turbo mode, 25 MB L2 cache), or a pair of E5 2697's (12 core / 24 thread, 2.7 Ghz base, 3.5 Ghz turbo mode, 30 MB of L2).


Even with 4 cards plugged in ( 4 R290x 8GB cards which I already own, water cooled), still has enough lanes open for an additional LSI SAS card for storage ( I already have it ), and a Creative THX sound card ( already own that too)....


It's a much larger board than the usual ATX standard, but I have a case that can handle the beast just fine (XSPC cube case, with the motherboard laid out horizontally...)....Clocks in at 15.2" x 13.2" (38.6cm x 33.5cm) size wise. so it really is proprietary.


Main thing is the memory, with the ability to pack up to 1 TB, and handling up to 24 cores / 48 threads well it's safe to say that an upgrade after this isn't coming any time soon....LOL


Checking all the information available before pulling the trigger, but it seems like the best option out there....:D
 
Quick question incoming:


Using a pair of Dual GPU cards, let's a pair of R295 X2's or the upcoming Fury X2's.....In the device manager, windows still lists 4 separate GPU's as a driver needs to be loaded for every single GPU right?
 
Another question arises......Is there a version of this driver for windows server 2012 R2 and does it support DX11.2 as well?......Seems Microsoft is intentionally gimping some O/S's, for certain hardware configurations and mine happens to be one of them....Windows 8.1 64 bit pro doesn't cut it for what I have in mind it seems.
 
Really Shadow?

This will MB never be quad fire..let alone CF.

From reading your posts and threads over the years, and all the issues you always have... this set up will be your ultimate train wreck.

Now if you where actually doing "work" with your "R9"s (they are not work cards, ever.)

And using over 16GB of RAM for "work" then maybe this MB would be a wastefull project for you.

But I am sure, tho I maybe wrong... Your not doing Compute/rendering( hint; Cuda) and a full autodesk suite, on VMware vSphere Hypervisor to share the work flow with your employees...

Because I am sure you know like we all do, any thing more than;

16GB ,one CPU,one GPU(maybe two for that game you love at 4k).
Is a complete waste of time and looks bad for the epeen, when said MB ONLY has 2x sata3, and NO usb3 let alone 3.1. Cant do CF cant use all four 16x slots on one CPU, it has to share, and what game uses two CPUs... well you can on some but why the headache , when all you want to do is game?


If your going to buy new CPUs(why two?) why buy a old.. no really old arc?

And then why get hung up on 3.0 PCIe? No game will ever saturate 2.0 PCIe EVER. Well maybe in the "future" Because we all know PC games in the future will need four 3.0 16x Vid slots of saturation... just look at all the advances of Game tech on AMD consoles..../s

Sell the R9s get two Furys, or better yet 980ti's(two will run circles around 4x R9s) Get a MB that has good ARC, more Sata3 than Sata2, Use SSDs instead of RAM (unless your VM mad man).

Oh, you cant even OC that MB

the SCU mistake and this MB idea has made me sad.. I had higher hopes with you.. now I feel crushed...



As for what "server OS" to use for dx12...well that would be the tech preview 2015 2, soon to be server 2016, but then you have to put in"desk top" and make it a workstation, you can start your eval now, its going to hit the news in a week or so and go 3?... You have a ton of ram now and a idle CPU set up a hypervizer/VM and eval away, even win 10, heck using snapshots is really the only way to pute.
 
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karlotta said:
Really Shadow?

This will MB never be quad fire..let alone CF.

From reading your posts and threads over the years, and all the issues you always have... this set up will be your ultimate train wreck.

Now if you where actually doing "work" with your "R9"s (they are not work cards, ever.)

And using over 16GB of RAM for "work" then maybe this MB would be a wastefull project for you.

But I am sure, tho I maybe wrong... Your not doing Compute/rendering( hint; Cuda) and a full autodesk suite, on VMware vSphere Hypervisor to share the work flow with your employees...

Because I am sure you know like we all do, any thing more than;

16GB ,one CPU,one GPU(maybe two for that game you love at 4k).
Is a complete waste of time and looks bad for the epeen, when said MB ONLY has 2x sata3, and NO usb3 let alone 3.1. Cant do CF cant use all four 16x slots on one CPU, it has to share, and what game uses two CPUs... well you can on some but why the headache , when all you want to do is game?


If your going to buy new CPUs(why two?) why buy a old.. no really old arc?

And then why get hung up on 3.0 PCIe? No game will ever saturate 2.0 PCIe EVER. Well maybe in the "future" Because we all know PC games in the future will need four 3.0 16x Vid slots of saturation... just look at all the advances of Game tech on AMD consoles..../s

Sell the R9s get two Furys, or better yet 980ti's(two will run circles around 4x R9s) Get a MB that has good ARC, more Sata3 than Sata2, Use SSDs instead of RAM (unless your VM mad man).

Oh, you cant even OC that MB

the SCU mistake and this MB idea has made me sad.. I had higher hopes with you.. now I feel crushed...



As for what "server OS" to use for dx12...well that would be the tech preview 2015 2, soon to be server 2016, but then you have to put in"desk top" and make it a workstation, you can start your eval now, its going to hit the news in a week or so and go 3?... You have a ton of ram now and a idle CPU set up a hypervizer/VM and eval away, even win 10, heck using snapshots is really the only way to pute.
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Actually, I use it for Catia (CAD software) and not just gaming and it supports up to 64 threads....:P


With this many cores I don't need overclocking in the least, and they're Ivy bridge chips, so not that old when Haswells are hardly faster at the same clock....:p


Seems there's an issue with windows 10 64 bit pro and using the SCU sata ports built into this particular chipset, but I also have an LSI PCI-e card that can handle 16 more sata drives, and has it's own 512 MB of cache and dual core CPU, along with a lot more Raid modes.....It's much better than anything built on a motherboard basically.


4 cards in SLI/ crossfire do work with windows server 2012 R2 ( as in they're detected properly), while using a platform that has 2 CPU sockets.....Seems that Microsoft has been playing it's usual games and Quad setups work fine on single socket systems, but gives the end user the finger when it's 4 cards on 4 separate PCI-e slots, in a dual socket motherboard.....


It's windows server 2012 or nothing for this specific setup, and also supports DX11.2


As for two GTX980 TI's crushing four of these.....Hate to break it to you, but a friend of mine has 3 titan-X's, water cooled and running upwards of 1300 Mhz, and is no more than 15% faster than my four cards working together in a fair amount of games....It's fast enough...:lol: :p


Also ran the DX12 draw call test in 3d mark, and was cranking out 27 million draw calls a second, while doing only 1 million in the same test in DX11, which runs all the draw calls in a single thread....



Overall, I haven't been bitching too much with hardware issues over the past 2 years or so, so it must be your imagination......:bleh:
 
:hmm:

don't know if driver or windows 10 but crossfire seems to be working even better in win 10 so far
now that i got some windows updates on win 10 and it has stopped randomly rebooting every few hours :bleh:

cf at 4k
dying light = better
witcher 3 = better
killing floor 2 = better
elder scrolls online = better
diablo 3 = still crap

better usage and smoother gameplay :super:

but my 290x's are running hotter with the higher usage :bleh:
 
bill dennison said:
:hmm:

don't know if driver or windows 10 but crossfire seems to be working even better in win 10 so far
now that i got some windows updates on win 10 and it has stopped randomly rebooting every few hours :bleh:

cf at 4k
dying light = better
witcher 3 = better
killing floor 2 = better
elder scrolls online = better
diablo 3 = still crap

better usage and smoother gameplay :super:

but my 290x's are running hotter with the higher usage :bleh:
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No such thing as a free lunch.....:lol:
 
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