Nvidia RTX DLSS/Ray Tracing Discussion

[KAC]

Well after my first experience in FSR in Farcry 6, I am sure to completely write it off as an option. It sucks donkey's nuts.

[Ravens Nest]

My son just got a 3070ti and tried DLSS on rust, he pretty much turned it straight off. It looked terrible

[NIGELG]

Why does Amid Evil not allow fullscreen when RTX effects are turned on?

[acroig]

https://www.tomshardware.com/feature...vs-nvidia-dlss

[Mangler]

My impressions of FSR after trying it in two games is WHY IS EVERYTHING SO SHARP!!??



They really need to let the user control the sharpness level.

[acroig]

Does FSR work for nV cards in FC6?

[Mangler]

Yes, I did not like the way it made the game look.

I don't know, maybe I have just become used to the way TAA makes everything soft, but I honestly feels like however implemented FSR in FC6 cranked the sharpness slider way too high.

[acroig]

Yes, I did not like the way it made the game look.

I don't know, maybe I have just become used to the way TAA makes everything soft, but I honestly feels like however implemented FSR in FC6 cranked the sharpness slider way too high.

It does not stay on for me and does nothing when I apply it.

[Mangler]

It does not stay on for me and does nothing when I apply it.

Strange it works for me, it's pretty easy to confirm as you can make the game look like a crap while still being sharp if you set it to the performance settings.


Huh, tried it out again, seem like the setting defaults to off as soon as you close the game, so if you want to keep using it, you have to enable it per launch of the game.

[acroig]

Huh, tried it out again, seem like the setting defaults to off as soon as you close the game, so if you want to keep using it, you have to enable it per launch of the game.

Pinga! Carajo!

That's what I'm seeing as well. Must enable every time game is launched? Thanks Ubi!

[KAC]

FSR sucks ass in FC6. Look at the water. It literally has turds in it.

[Nascar24]

Sorry I had to drop a Duce, you think they have crappers in the jungle?

[acroig]

FSR sucks ass in FC6. Look at the water. It literally has turds in it.

Yeah, it's really bad.

[Nagorak]

Yes, I did not like the way it made the game look.

I don't know, maybe I have just become used to the way TAA makes everything soft, but I honestly feels like however implemented FSR in FC6 cranked the sharpness slider way too high.

Try running with TAA disabled maybe and see how sharp it's supposed to be and then compare to the FSR version? TAA does seem to create a really soft image in a lot of games, and I find it's often hard to tell how sharp is "normal" versus "oversharpened".

[Nagorak]

I will say in Back 4 Blood both DLSS and FSR look pretty comparable to me. I did not take screen shots but just did a straight comparison switching back and forth. That being said, you can find situations where textures just aren't as sharp with them enabled. It's probably not that noticeable during game play, but I did notice it.

Of course, B4B runs so fast that there's really no point in using either FSR or DLSS, at least not on a 6800 XT or 3080. I'm actually CPU limited pushing over 200 FPS, so changing the settings makes little performance difference. Maybe it's useful on old/low end cards.

[badsykes]

I begun playing "The Medium" and i was almost being triggered to get a new gpu by how looks with Raytracing until i saw the performance.....
If you want RTX ultra without DLSS it needs a minimum 3080 for 1440p.Even in 1080p a R7 3700x + 3070 is barely making 44fps ...
I will finish this game without RTX .. It still looks great without RTX but the games looked impressive with it ...

[SIrPauly]

Have you tried Dlss first hand? The feature is very comparable to native 4k, even the performance Dlss mode in 4k is surprisingly good as well.

[acroig]

Have you tried Dlss first hand? The feature is very comparable to native 4k, even the performance Dlss mode in 4k is surprisingly good as well.

[badsykes]

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It gets playable with dlss even with 3060ti...Still on the fence.

[acroig]

You shouldn't be, DLSS is great.

[badsykes]

You shouldn't be, DLSS is great.

I finished the game already.I want to avoid investing in the current gen gpus.They are underpowered in RTX.

[acroig]

I finished the game already.I want to avoid investing in the current gen gpus.They are underpowered in RTX.

Why do you say that? Because of the need to use DLSS to boost frames?

[badsykes]

Why do you say that? Because of the need to use DLSS to boost frames?

Yes.RTX3080 barely get playable frames at 1440p without dlss.

[acroig]

And DLSS is bad?

[LordHawkwind]

I finished the game already.I want to avoid investing in the current gen gpus.They are underpowered in RTX.

Of course next gen will be better in RT but they will also be substantially more expensive. If you can't afford a current gen card you won't be able to afford the next gen either. The wheel just keeps turning. You've got to grab something sometime.

[badsykes]

And DLSS is bad?

Is not bad BUT when they use this trick to make the game playable on a 2000$ gpu is kinda meh ....

[acroig]

Is not bad BUT when they use this trick to make the game playable on a 2000$ gpu is kinda meh ....

If this trick gets you the same image quality with more eye candy (RT) I hardly call that meh but to each his own. Your wait for an affordable new vid card may last quite a long time.

[badsykes]

Of course next gen will be better in RT but they will also be substantially more expensive. If you can't afford a current gen card you won't be able to afford the next gen either. The wheel just keeps turning. You've got to grab something sometime.

I expect a gpu at 500$ -600$ (like the 6600xt is now) will be at 3070ti or 3080 performance level.

[badsykes]

If this trick gets you the same image quality with more eye candy (RT) I hardly call that meh but to each his own. Your wait for an affordable new vid card may last quite a long time.

The point i am making is with a 2000$ you still need the DLSS to get a stable 60fps at 1440p .... That's a catastrophic combination between price and performance.

[acroig]

The point i am making is with a 2000$ you still need the DLSS to get a stable 60fps at 1440p .... That's a catastrophic combination between price and performance.

I don't see it the same way as this is new tech that AMD is using (not as well, IMHO) too.

My .02

[badsykes]

I don't see it the same way as this is new tech that AMD is using (not as well, IMHO) too.

My .02

If the price was around MSRP i wouldn't have any problem.It's a new tech ok...
But for 2000$ meh .... Speaking only for RTX benchies the 3060ti feels a smarter buy.Both cards need DLSS anyway in this game.What's the point of paying another grand...meh

[Trunks0]

You gotta love that DLSS can kick so much ass it makes you question buying higher end. The reason of course is so you can use no DLSS or higher quality DLSS.

Although in this game... debatable if it's worth turning on RT at all. But the point stands

[badsykes]

You gotta love that DLSS can kick so much ass it makes you question buying higher end. The reason of course is so you can use no DLSS or higher quality DLSS.

Although in this game... debatable if it's worth turning on RT at all. But the point stands

If i had a 2080ti or a 3060ti i would even go to 1080p so i can play with RTX at Ultra.It really adds to making the game more photorealistic so it adds to the atmosphere of the game.
The question is how much you want to pay to play with RTX.

[acroig]

As a graphics whore I say as much as it takes.

[SIrPauly]

Picked up Horizon Zero Dawn last week and nice story telling but the Taa quality suffered and a lot of aliasing even at native 4k. Desired Dlss in this title and shared this with Blaire from Germany.

To my surprise, the developers added Dlss to the title and even Dlss 4k performance mode looks much better than Native 4k with Taa.

[SIrPauly]

Also fooled with FidelityFX Super Resolution in Horizon Zero Dawn and since the Taa quality suffers, FidelityFx super resolution suffers as well, and very similar to Nvidia's NIS upscaling in this title.

[Exposed]

Man DLSS would have been nice when I actually played the game months ago.

[acroig]

Man DLSS would have been nice when I actually played the game months ago.

Yeah but it was an AMD exclusive at that time so no DLSS.

[bill dennison]

Yeah but it was an AMD exclusive at that time so no DLSS.

they added AMD FSR also

https://www.pcgamesn.com/horizon-zer...amd-fsr-update

[Ravens Nest]

they added AMD FSR also

https://www.pcgamesn.com/horizon-zer...amd-fsr-update

I wonder if they'll add it as patch for PS4 owners Or is it already on there?