Official VR Headset discussion

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I bet they are just leeching off phone tech for cost and now that they are established with cash in hand they will look at their own spec screens.
21:9 ultrawide...
Or ideally oled, but that might as well be DK10 and I want one of these damn things now.

[badboy]

It is an amazing thing that VR is inexorably tied to mobile cell phone displays.

I believe that is probably the single most factor that is delaying the Oculus to market. However that new screen is probably right around the corner.

Thats because they didnt have the cash to develop their own screens.
Now with FB they got just that and can develop screens made for VR

[jolle]

Thats because they didnt have the cash to develop their own screens.
Now with FB they got just that and can develop screens made for VR

They also have a partnership with samsung, I wouldnt be surprised if that will yield a tailored display panel to suit their needs.
Phone panels are a good stepping stone but at the end of the day they have very different needs, one is viewed very close to the eye, magnified through a lens.

http://www.engadget.com/2014/05/30/samsung-oculus-partnership/

[Exposed]

There's already occulus porn out for this device. Don't ask me how I know.

[shadow001]

Now that I've tried my glasses since last week, there's only one thing to note....Future models will continue to be improved even more, so does this Kill Eyefinity and Nvidia surround with 3 displays, or even single displays using 120Hz refresh and shutter glasses, when in a gaming environment?


The reason I ask is that the glasses allow the user to look in any direction well beyond where a display would be, and can look and aim in different directions, so it's hugely more immersive than the above solutions so good bye triple displays for gaming and higher refresh single display(120Hz).

[Progression]

Now that I've tried my glasses since last week, there's only one thing to note....Future models will continue to be improved even more, so does this Kill Eyefinity and Nvidia surround with 3 displays, or even single displays using 120Hz refresh and shutter glasses, when in a gaming environment?


The reason I ask is that the glasses allow the user to look in any direction well beyond where a display would be, and can look and aim in different directions, so it's hugely more immersive than the above solutions so good bye triple displays for gaming and higher refresh single display(120Hz).

It certainly does for me, unless I play competitive games.

[shadow001]

I'm guessing that once resolution gets further increased and so will refresh rate, that even in a competitive gaming environment it'll also be better than any other option?.

If true, you have to admit that Oculus came out of nowhere and shook things up big time...LOL

[AllexxisF1]

That is usually how it happens. The Oculus (VR in general) is going to change everything.

I cannot wait, going to be exciting seeing PC hardware come back full force and developers having something new to play in.

[shadow001]

Well for me, unless the game in question is played in 3rd person view, it even changes the fundamental problem I was having with regards to video card upgrades, in which i'd need models with a huge amount of onboard memory to eventually drive three 4K displays for both work and gaming.


So getting monitors for those types of games is beyond overkill, since I don't play that many of them, and using the glasses for 1st person style shooters or flight/space simulations also saves hugely on video card memory too, since the resolution will be far lower than using 3 panels even if next year's consumer model uses a 2560*1440 display.


So I not only save money not having to change of 1440p screens, but also relieved of that memory constraint too, while providing more immersion from a 300~350$ screen you wear on your face and tracks head movements....Cool, get my cake and eat it too..

[bill dennison]

Well for me, unless the game in question is played in 3rd person view, it even changes the fundamental problem I was having with regards to video card upgrades, in which i'd need models with a huge amount of onboard memory to eventually drive three 4K displays for both work and gaming.


So getting monitors for those types of games is beyond overkill, since I don't play that many of them, and using the glasses for 1st person style shooters or flight/space simulations also saves hugely on video card memory too, since the resolution will be far lower than using 3 panels even if next year's consumer model uses a 2560*1440 display.


So I not only save money not having to change of 1440p screens, but also relieved of that memory constraint too, while providing more immersion from a 300~350$ screen you wear on your face and tracks head movements....Cool, get my cake and eat it too..

if the keep all facebook crap off the consumer model I would hope for 1600p if not a 4k version and displayport 1.2a+

[shadow001]

if the keep all facebook crap off the consumer model I would hope for 1600p if not a 4k version and displayport 1.2a+

Can you imagine reading with font that small though?...I'd almost need a magnifying glass to read some types for sure.

I already have enough grief with my Cell phone having a 5" screen with a 2560*1440 resolution and browsing the net....On some sites the text is minuscule, so now imagine text not much more than half the size...Ow my eyes...

[bill dennison]

Can you imagine reading with font that small though?...I'd almost need a magnifying glass to read some types for sure.

I already have enough grief with my Cell phone having a 5" screen with a 2560*1440 resolution and browsing the net....On some sites the text is minuscule, so now imagine text not much more than half the size...Ow my eyes...

only want it for gaming or maybe movies

will use my regular screen for everything else (net and 2d stuff)

I could not type without seeing the keyboard anyway

[jolle]

Can you imagine reading with font that small though?...I'd almost need a magnifying glass to read some types for sure.

I already have enough grief with my Cell phone having a 5" screen with a 2560*1440 resolution and browsing the net....On some sites the text is minuscule, so now imagine text not much more than half the size...Ow my eyes...

Ideally you adjust the font size to the DPI or resolution, besides the screen is right up in your face and the optics zoom into it.
Which is why the 1080p screen they have now is insufficient and still have very strong screendooring.
You sorta get this (unrelated image from a HTC One, left is pic from the screen, right is the raw data sent to the screen):

http://cdn.arstechnica.net/gadgets/fig1.jpg

Besides, if you setup up a huge virtual screen for windows desktop (or whatever), you can always lean into it to read text closer if you need to.

[shadow001]

Must have some pretty strong magnification since i'm reading now at 2560*1440 on a 28" screen, so even though the DK2's are only 1920*1080, the surface area is much smaller at just 5" diagonally, so the pixels are much smaller and packed more closely together.


I didn't try them in any text on a white background (probably the worst case scenario), but might do that over the next couple of days just for kicks, but given how visible it is in the picture you linked, changing to 4k on the same size screen would still be visible quite easily, since the pixels are only half as wide and half as tall as what you see on the image at 1080p.....The screen door effect would still be visible with enough magnification.

[bill dennison]

Samsung Gear VR

5.7 inch (143.9mm) Quad HD Super AMOLED (2560 x 1440)

http://samsungmobilepress.com/2014/09/03/Gear-VR#Tech

http://www.rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?t=34013391

[shadow001]

That i new about since that screen size and resolution is already featured on the largest cell phones like the Note 3.....It's more like a phone and a mini tablet once you reach that size.

I'll probably buy one once it's actually available, especially if it's out for 300$, but I won't regret having fun with the DK2 in the meantime.

Going beyond this size in a meaningful way while keeping it compact as possible is the real challenge

[BababooeyHTJ]

Nice

[kboye]

That is just a case / shell FOR the Note4 with better sensors, right? That is, you'll need to purchase Note4 in addition to this. Right?

[Omega53]

That is just a case / shell FOR the Note4 with better sensors, right? That is, you'll need to purchase Note4 in addition to this. Right?

yes

[Seyiji]

yes

Damn I came in here half expecting you to say your gf bought you a DK2

[Omega53]

Damn I came in here half expecting you to say your gf bought you a DK2

As much as I have thought about it, by the time it actually ships to me they will probably have either announce DK3 or the consumer model at which point I will be kicking myself.

[kboye]

3 months for arrival is just just before Christmas, which still leaves ~half a year of enjoyment before the real product arrives, which again will probably take a few months to arrive.

Not bad ; I almost preordered just now

[OzzieBloke]

Going to hold out for consumer version and hope they use a high-res pentile screen / displaced layers or something similar to reduce the screen-dooring effect.

[badboy]

http://www.techradar.com/news/gaming/the-consumer-ready-oculus-rift-will-launch-in-public-beta-by-summer-2015-1265010

Oculus is keeping quiet on its plans for the launch of a consumer-ready version, but we've learned that the company is planning to roll out a public beta for the headset as early as April 2015.

Release it already!!!!!

[AllexxisF1]

I will do everything within my power to get one of the first consumer versions. This thing is gonna rock and be all over the media when it comes out. Watch Jimmy Fallon will have it on first then it will be everywhere.

[Omega53]

New oculus announced. Higher res/hz and 360* tracking.

[night]

I will be very disappointed without a good step up in FOV. Like.... 110 minimum.

[bill dennison]

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/oculus-oculus-connect-vr-amd-nvidia,27729.html

When Nvidia made its low-latency VR announcement, I immediately thought that the green team was going to have a de facto advantage over the red team. Fortunately for AMD users, this isn't the case.


According to Tom Forsyth, Oculus VR's Software Architect, this is a new enhancement for Nvidia GPUs that is already available in AMD graphics cards. In fact, some of these optimizations can be found in current Xbox One and Sony PlayStation 4 platforms as part of their respective SDK. Why? Because they are based on AMD GPUs

[Progression]

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ocu...dia,27729.html

That's... really cool. But you know what pisses me off? AMD are a bunch of morons for not taking advantage of these kinds of things for promotional material. They repeat the same crap over, over, and over again throughout history. How much cool tech these guys develop and goes pretty much unnoticed or unused (both in practical and marketing terms)?

Get on the ball, AMD!

[badboy]

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/ocu...dia,27729.html

It needs driver support... coming in 2050 from AMD

[bill dennison]

It needs driver support... coming in 2050 from AMD

and nv will require a 300 buck adapter

[badboy]

and nv will require a 300 buck adapter

no just a new card... even if the old cards would have it they would not activate it in the drivers

[BababooeyHTJ]

no just a new card... even if the old cards would have it they would not activate it in the drivers

Lol, probably. There is a vr option in the control panel though.

[aviphysics]

*brushes some dust off the thread*
I sure hope this rumored 4K 5.9" Samsung screen gives some hope of an even higher res OCR. DK2 is a lot better than DK1, but it still needs more pixel density.

http://www.cnet.com/news/samsung-reportedly-creating-6-inch-4k-super-amoled-display/

It is such a shame that the optics of turning a flat screen into a wide FOV cause the center of vision to have the lowest resolution, while the peripheral vision gets the better half of the deal.

[Mangler]

RIP oculus rift.

Why would anyone buy that toy when 3dhead is around?

http://uk.businessinsider.com/3dhead-virtual-reality-is-a-hilariously-awful-oculus-killer-2015-1

[Seyiji]

RIP oculus rift.

Why would anyone buy that toy when 3dhead is around?

I...is that lady dead with a broken neck

[bill dennison]

RIP oculus rift.

Why would anyone buy that toy when 3dhead is around?

oh look a VR Helmet for the alien

[jolle]

You better not eat garlic or whatever before getting trapped with yourself in one of those.

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Oculus update

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Tested

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