Official VR Headset discussion

[CyanBlues]

maybe put in a ticket with support instead of just the refund? other then that not really any real golf game, but Cloudlands : VR Minigolf is pretty fun

[bill dennison]

Zuckerberg: I’ve Never Even Heard of ZeniMax Before; VR Will Take Another 5-10 Years To Get There

http://wccftech.com/zuckerberg-never...heard-zenimax/

[Nagorak]

Well, he's probably right. Right now it's really a niche. We need the price to come down a lot for it to be more mainstream.

Not sure I buy that he never heard of Zenimax before, but Zuckerberg seems like kind of an idiot, so I suppose it's possible.

[GSGRUNT]

Just spent way too much time VR fishing

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After a patch for The Golf Club VR I've logged 33 hrs playing VR golf and no time on regular PC games.

[BababooeyHTJ]

Just played SS TFE for about a half hour with classic controls and somehow didn't hurl!

[KAC]

Gays, which VR should I get? PC got better and cheaper games or shall I go PS4. My biggest consideration is that I don't have a lot of space plus my kid running around destroying stuff may hurt the pocket with going PC.

W/ PS4 I see the following benefits:

- Better adjustability to a guy like me with glasses
- Easy to disconnect and save it from the menace
- No setup bullcrap and games work as advertised
- My wife can also see what the fark I am playing on TV etc

Don't know if last one is also possible on PC (all I saw was very small screen doubled up).

Tell me how it is?

[Nagorak]

There is a mirror window on SteamVR also. So, people can see what you're doing there too.

I don't really know much about PSVR. It's going to be lower res, so overall not as good of an experience, but if there are more games that might make up for it.

[gamekill]

I spent 15 hours straight last Sunday playing Obduction on VR. Including the occasional small breaks for a snack etc.

Because I played 90% of the time seated using a gamepad, it was not tiresome. I enabled full movement controls (free turning, free walking) so I could go roam around the world of Obduction at will.

At the beginning (first couple of hours) turning around using the gamepad right stick it was a bit uncomfortable and mind-bending. But guess what. After the initial hours in, it became natural and I felt no sickness or disorientation at all.

Also, I had to lower graphics setting a bit (mixed settings amounting to a somewhat medium-high average) so I cound get smooth framerates at least 85~90% of the time.

But during the final hours of playing, not even the framerate drops annoyed me anymore, and I was running around frantically solving puzzles all over looking around as I ran and went up and down slopes and stairs.

So my point is. All this ranting and complaining about motion sickness and disorientation is a matter of getting used to.

OF COURSE I do realize some people are less tolerant than others.
But inside each individual's tolerance levels, the more you play, the more comfortable you feel playing inside a VR environment with full motion ever if it is totally unrelated to your actual movements and body actions. Turning the gamepad view angle to one side while turning your head to the opposite side for instance (so turning around but keeping your focus in the same spot in the environment) is the hardest thing for me getting used to - and I managed it in the end.

Obduction in VR is an immersion blast. Play it if you can.



PS - I played on a friend's Oculus Rift CV1, and the HMD is much more comfortable and light than the Vive. Still getting the Vive though because of the more open system environment, somewhat better roomscale and future controller upgrades.

[BababooeyHTJ]

Gays, which VR should I get? PC got better and cheaper games or shall I go PS4. My biggest consideration is that I don't have a lot of space plus my kid running around destroying stuff may hurt the pocket with going PC.

W/ PS4 I see the following benefits:

- Better adjustability to a guy like me with glasses
- Easy to disconnect and save it from the menace
- No setup bullcrap and games work as advertised
- My wife can also see what the fark I am playing on TV etc

Don't know if last one is also possible on PC (all I saw was very small screen doubled up).

Tell me how it is?

PC has better games? Seems like there are some AAA titles coming to the ps4. RE7 sounds great in vr. If theres any genre made for vr its horror. Don't know if RE has gone back to its roots or not.

Aren't there a few other aaa titles coming to the psvr. I could look past the lower resolution. The rift isn't perfect either.

I don't care. VR is the ****. I'm glad to see someone spending some money to have games run in vr. Sort of like Nvidia did with 3d vision for the longest time. Hopefully sony does well.

[MangaSpawn64]

So... bought a PS4 VR and I'm in love with VR... Batman Arkham VR is probably the most amazing experience I've ever had in my entire gaming life. I'm glad I went with it, and can't wait for the next gen (4k oled panels + AA).

[KAC]

How is the IQ w/ the PS4 VR?

[badboy]

Oculus just lowered the price!

Before the headset only went for $599 now you get both the hmd and touch for the same price!

https://www.oculus.com/blog/introduc...now-available/

Robo recall released today for free

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and new games announced

https://www.oculus.com/blog/first-lo...culus-in-2017/

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[BababooeyHTJ]

The rift and touch is worth every penny of that price. No doubt about it. The experience is hard to explain. No video can do it justice.

Downloading robo recall now, can't wait.

[Destroy]

Oculus just lowered the price!

Desperate VR times with current market nearing saturation. Wonder if the price point will ever reach main stream acceptable pricing before VR dies off.

[BababooeyHTJ]

Its the price of a psvr now if you include the camera. And cheaper if you include the move........

Sony can't keep that in stock.....

WTF is mainstream acceptable to you? Free??

[MangaSpawn64]

Vive now has a per month payment plan

I looooooove my PS VR Can't wait for Farpoint.

[abdavey]

Would I be able to use a vive or rift to play an mmo or flight sim while still using my mouse and nostromo n52te? Think this would work great in virtual cockpit mode..

[Progression]

So I am thinking of buying a headset for productivity (3D stuff in Maya). I want it to have multiple screens with a lot of virtual real estate.

Would it be comfortable to use? The text size would be kind of what you would usually find in a browser or MSWord. I don't know anyone who owns one so I can't try it.

[CyanBlues]

Would I be able to use a vive or rift to play an mmo or flight sim while still using my mouse and nostromo n52te? Think this would work great in virtual cockpit mode..

nope, you might be able to get it working with vorpx but most likely it won't work unless its made for it.

So I am thinking of buying a headset for productivity (3D stuff in Maya). I want it to have multiple screens with a lot of virtual real estate.

Would it be comfortable to use? The text size would be kind of what you would usually find in a browser or MSWord. I don't know anyone who owns one so I can't try it.

you can possibly use bigscreenVR and launch multiple screen maybe? Honestly though reading text in vr is kind of hard and I doubt it'll do what you want it to do.
http://bigscreenvr.com/
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but if you want 3d sculpting/art app in vr, there's
masterpieceVR
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google tiltbrush
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oculus medium
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Quill
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[abdavey]

Ah, guess I'll lay off vr for now then. Only aspect I liked was the head tracking. I don't do fps's or pvp and current systems aren't very wheelchair friendly anyways.

Would be nice to see a system like in sword art online in my lifetime..

[gamekill]

Would be nice to see a system like in sword art online in my lifetime..

I think fall 2021. Just a guess.
But 4 more full years and holiday seasons before that. Plenty of time for devs and manufacturers to get comfortable enough, and stalled, at the current paradigm.

[badboy]

I think fall 2021. Just a guess.
But 4 more full years and holiday seasons before that. Plenty of time for devs and manufacturers to get comfortable enough, and stalled, at the current paradigm.

For something like Sword art Online you would need to hook up your brain

That technology is pretty far off

[GSGRUNT]

Free Robo Recall is going to be a time sucker.
VR graphics done right.

Intro made me jump.

[Exposed]

Other than the climb, is there any VR games that give a strong sense of height or plays into a fear of heights theme?

[badboy]

Other than the climb, is there any VR games that give a strong sense of height or plays into a fear of heights theme?

there is an app for that

http://store.steampowered.com/app/517160/

Havent tried it myself
If you have Rift the dev said he is soon updating it for rift and releasing it on oculus store

[Progression]

you can possibly use bigscreenVR and launch multiple screen maybe? Honestly though reading text in vr is kind of hard and I doubt it'll do what you want it to do.
http://bigscreenvr.com/
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Hmm, that's disappointing. I was absolutely going to use bigscreenvr for what I had in mind. I have to use Maya though, no way around it. I use it for a full pipeline since I work on commercials (animation, lighting, rendering, shading, texturing, the whole enchilada).

So reading text, like a browser's standard text size, is very uncomfortable on the current VR headsets then?

(By the way, they are promoting their software in that video using Maya )

[BababooeyHTJ]

Hmm, that's disappointing. I was absolutely going to use bigscreenvr for what I had in mind. I have to use Maya though, no way around it. I use it for a full pipeline since I work on commercials (animation, lighting, rendering, shading, texturing, the whole enchilada).

So reading text, like a browser's standard text size, is very uncomfortable on the current VR headsets then?

(By the way, they are promoting their software in that video using Maya )

Reading text in games made for vr is rough. Between the chromatic aberration and screen door effect its never crisp. If anything text tends to be the best example of VR's weaknesses. I would never consider using vr for any productivity. I would pull off my headset to browse a website for a minute before trying to do it through the headset.

[Nagorak]

Anti-aliasing can help a lot with text clarity. That is one reason why I think VR benefits from as much power as possible. Cranking up the super sampling helps the image quality in just about any game.

That being said, I wouldn't try to any productive work using a VR headset. There the low res would just be too annoying. Not to mention, I'm not sure it's actually good to have a headset strapped to your face for extended periods of time. I wouldn't worry about it for gaming, but being on there all day for many days at a time I could see there being some negative effects, like eye strain, neck strain or a contact rash where the headset sits all the time (especially if it's hot and you sweat).

[badboy]

yeah for productive work in "2d on a screen inside vr" you would need to wait until 2nd-3rd gen HMDs

And for that AR would be much better than VR

[abdavey]

hmm.. Looks like Microsoft is trying to get on the bandwagon as well.
https://blogs.windows.com/windowsexp...JDe9LhqqRzg.97

Would these specs be competitive? Of course I guess there is always time for things to get better..

The specifications for the Acer Windows Mixed Reality Development Edition headset include:
Two high-resolution liquid crystal displays at 1440 x 1440
Display refresh rate up to 90 Hz (native)
Built-in audio out and microphone support through 3.5mm jack
Single cable with HDMI 2.0 (display) and USB 3.0 (data) for connectivity

"These are the first mixed reality headsets to deliver built-in inside-out tracking, meaning there is no need to purchase or install external trackers or sensors in the wall. Moreover, you don’t need to bother with a complicated setup, just plug and play."

[Exposed]

Microsoft may actually have the best way around it. I just don't want to see games tied to the Microsoft store.

[Destroy]

MS should stick to their excellent AR, productivity and gaming capable.

I think they are only doing this VR for their Xbox and do a 'me too' towards Sony.

[BababooeyHTJ]

I would kill for Forza Horizon in vr. On my oculus rift.

[badboy]

https://www.oculus.com/experiences/r...1399169574498/

**** this!

I lasted a whole 30 sec in the game, couldnt even enter the manor
The graphics are too real in VR

[Cream]

I would kill for Forza Horizon in vr. On my oculus rift.

Me too, That would be fantastic.

[Cream]

https://www.oculus.com/experiences/r...1399169574498/

**** this!

I lasted a whole 30 sec in the game, couldnt even enter the manor
The graphics are too real in VR

Don't think I could do that! VR for me is more about immersion rather that "real looking" It's a massive step back in graphics, but a massive step forwards in presence.
Might be one to download for 'Friends' to play ;-)

[badboy]

Don't think I could do that! VR for me is more about immersion rather that "real looking" It's a massive step back in graphics, but a massive step forwards in presence.
Might be one to download for 'Friends' to play ;-)

I need to pick up my balls and try again

I didnt even come to any scare

I literally just walked a couple of feet and the door opened to the mansion and I was like NO NO NO NO NO NO and couldnt move an inch more

[abdavey]

Don't think I could do that! VR for me is more about immersion rather that "real looking" It's a massive step back in graphics, but a massive step forwards in presence.
Might be one to download for 'Friends' to play ;-)

Waiting for the full body suit for tactile feedback..

[BababooeyHTJ]

Sadly affected is the first game where the god rays bothered me outside of text. It was as bad as stereoscopic 3d crosstalk.

The game scared the crap out of the woman. I thought that dreadhalls was far more eerie. Amnesia would be the perfect game for vr.

[MangaSpawn64]

Batman: Arkham VR is my go-to demo for VR... everyone can't believe how awesome it is.

Can't wait for Farpoint with the aim controller !