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    Originally posted by Mangler View Post
    Glad I never bough one of these, memes are disgusting.

    I cannot support a person that is pro-memes.
    Funny, it makes me proud to own one knowing he hates hillary

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      Originally posted by CyanBlues View Post
      Hey Exposed, have you tested out the new drivers yet for the 1070 with your rift and to see if it's worst or not?

      New driver seems to tank the fps for my vive so was curious how it is on your side.
      You know I haven't yet. Not even sure what driver revision I'm on, but if ain't broke, don't fix it.

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        Originally posted by Omega53 View Post
        Funny, it makes me proud to own one knowing he hates hillary
        But you sold your Rift
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          The tolerance of the left at it's finest.
          ..

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            What does hate against memes have to do with politics?


            The guy is paying people to spread memes, he has to be stopped.

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              white guy supports memes = racist pig
              brown guy hates white people = visionary
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                Originally posted by Seyiji View Post
                But you sold your Rift
                Traded an iPad pro for another

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                  Originally posted by Omega53 View Post
                  Traded an iPad pro for another
                  Nice
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                    Well, I picked up a poor man's vr, google cardboard. I have to admit I'm pretty impressed with the little thing. Makes me really want to try a real vr device. Just not sure if I want to jump on first gen hardware to be honest. I know that people hate 3d comparisons but the difference between my first gen 3d vision display and a later model was just massive.

                    Still, dying to be able to play around with a real vr headset.
                    Originally posted by Mangler
                    Good work guys, we can't have too many positive posts in a row on this forum.

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                      Originally posted by BababooeyHTJ View Post
                      Well, I picked up a poor man's vr, google cardboard. I have to admit I'm pretty impressed with the little thing. Makes me really want to try a real vr device. Just not sure if I want to jump on first gen hardware to be honest. I know that people hate 3d comparisons but the difference between my first gen 3d vision display and a later model was just massive.

                      Still, dying to be able to play around with a real vr headset.
                      Whatcha using to cardboard your google?
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                        Originally posted by BababooeyHTJ View Post
                        Well, I picked up a poor man's vr, google cardboard. I have to admit I'm pretty impressed with the little thing. Makes me really want to try a real vr device. Just not sure if I want to jump on first gen hardware to be honest. I know that people hate 3d comparisons but the difference between my first gen 3d vision display and a later model was just massive.

                        Still, dying to be able to play around with a real vr headset.
                        Microsoft store at Farmington, West Farm Mall has Vive's for demo if you want to try them.

                        https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/locations/HTCVive

                        if your profile location is correct (Hartford, CT) then it's not too far away

                        also for rift demo's

                        West Hartford and Manchester best buy's seem to have them

                        https://live.oculus.com/bestbuy/search/hartford%20conneticut
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                          Thanks, I'm going to have to check the both out. I appreciate it.
                          Originally posted by Mangler
                          Good work guys, we can't have too many positive posts in a row on this forum.

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                            Originally posted by CyanBlues View Post
                            Microsoft store at Farmington, West Farm Mall has Vive's for demo if you want to try them.

                            https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/locations/HTCVive

                            if your profile location is correct (Hartford, CT) then it's not too far away

                            also for rift demo's

                            West Hartford and Manchester best buy's seem to have them

                            https://live.oculus.com/bestbuy/search/hartford%20conneticut

                            My daughter tried an oculus demo at a best buy and she says they must have been using a phone because it didn't look like mine and the inage was garbage compaired to mine.
                            She even commented that they should use the real one or not do it at all because it was so bad it probably cost them sales.

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                              Originally posted by BababooeyHTJ View Post
                              Well, I picked up a poor man's vr, google cardboard. I have to admit I'm pretty impressed with the little thing. Makes me really want to try a real vr device. Just not sure if I want to jump on first gen hardware to be honest. I know that people hate 3d comparisons but the difference between my first gen 3d vision display and a later model was just massive.

                              Still, dying to be able to play around with a real vr headset.
                              Next gen VR sets are at least two years away. However, you won't be disappointed if you get a Rift now. I am still amazed by VR everytime I use it (I can't go back to regular 3D Vision). Every week there's always some new demos and VR videos to try, and the demos themselves are worth it.

                              It will not replace your main gaming rig but it will give you some quality time. Kinda like a Wii. I designate Fridays and Sundays as my main "VR Relax Day", where I'll fire up Project Cars VR and race, check out some new demos, see what's available to purchase and play, etc. I've played two full games so far (Adrift and Dreadhalls), and these show how excellent VR can be when implemented.

                              And of course there's VR Titties.

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                                I tried the rift on weekend. I'll admit I love it but I suffer from the same issues as 3d. Namely eye strain and headaches sadly

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                                  Originally posted by Higgy10 View Post
                                  I tried the rift on weekend. I'll admit I love it but I suffer from the same issues as 3d. Namely eye strain and headaches sadly
                                  Same here plus the game selection is insufficient right now to justify the purchase.

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                                    Originally posted by acroig View Post
                                    Same here plus the game selection is insufficient right now to justify the purchase.
                                    BIGSCREEN

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                                      Originally posted by acroig View Post
                                      Same here plus the game selection is insufficient right now to justify the purchase.
                                      I use my Rift all the time and it was easily worth the price.




















                                      I very rarely use it for games.

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                                        Originally posted by jimjobob View Post
                                        I use my Rift all the time and it was easily worth the price.
                                        I very rarely use it for games.
                                        What do you use it for? Can u use the rift on google earth or maps?
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                                          Originally posted by jimjobob View Post
                                          I use my Rift all the time and it was easily worth the price.





                                          I very rarely use it for games.
                                          you should try HoneySelect....
                                          purely for research purposes
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                                            The more that I look into vr the more that I feel it's possibly best to wait. It looks cool. I'm trying to scratch the itch with my old 3d display atm. Sadly, it seems like there is more to play on it atm and that's the entire reason why I stopped using my 3d vision display. Most of it seems like shovelware and aside from FO4 which could go either way. I'm sadly skeptical.
                                            Originally posted by Mangler
                                            Good work guys, we can't have too many positive posts in a row on this forum.

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                                              Originally posted by 0091/2 View Post
                                              What do you use it for? Can u use the rift on google earth or maps?
                                              Not google earth or maps.

                                              I was just asking maybe a page or two back about that though. So far I have just found things about it being compatible with the dk1 and 2 but nothing about it working with CV1.

                                              The app for it on the Wii U isn't supported any more either. That was pretty cool too.

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                                                http://www.game-debate.com/news/2129...-up-completely


                                                I know the steam survey isn't the end all be all, but using common sense and the high price of these head sets along with the fact that most of the current games are more like demo's, do you think we will see 2nd generation head sets?(not counting smart phone VR)

                                                They need lower price points like 299-399ish and obviously better games will have to be created.

                                                Also another possible drawback for the Vive is you need to have a decent amount of room to be able to use it effectively, I dont think that should be underestimated.
                                                Last edited by dmanna; Oct 2, 2016, 05:17 PM.

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                                                  Originally posted by dmanna View Post
                                                  http://www.game-debate.com/news/2129...-up-completely

                                                  Also another possible drawback for the Vive is you need to have a decent amount of room to be able to use it effectively, I don't think that should be underestimated.

                                                  partially true, it works perfectly fine in standing/sit as in most game you don't really have to move around as much since you can teleport. Minuse those way too frequent gallery shooter .

                                                  Of course the more room you have the better definitely is true, but so as it'll be for the oculus touch games also.
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                                                    Originally posted by dmanna View Post
                                                    http://www.game-debate.com/news/2129...-up-completely


                                                    I know the steam survey isn't the end all be all, but using common sense and the high price of these head sets along with the fact that most of the current games are more like demo's, do you think we will see 2nd generation head sets?(not counting smart phone VR)

                                                    They need lower price points like 299-399ish and obviously better games will have to be created.

                                                    Also another possible drawback for the Vive is you need to have a decent amount of room to be able to use it effectively, I dont think that should be underestimated.
                                                    This is just the start of VR. Right now its for early adopters of the tech and will be growing. Facebook/Oculus doesnt see it going "mainstream" until another 10 years. It will get bigger year by year and cheaper until most people can afford it and everyone will want it

                                                    Its the same with every new tech. In the start its expensive and not for everyone but it gets better and cheaper
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                                                      VR is just getting started, every major player is adopting it. Playstation VR is just around the corner.

                                                      Steam survey is not a representation of all VR users. Remember Steam VR was primarily created for the Vive. Oculus has its own store front end, Playstation its own as well.

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                                                        I am not so certain its going to take off. Developing games is expensive and no one is going to develop for it, if barely anyone has it. We shall see what happens over the next 2 years.

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                                                          Originally posted by dmanna View Post
                                                          I am not so certain its going to take off. Developing games is expensive and no one is going to develop for it, if barely anyone has it. We shall see what happens over the next 2 years.
                                                          I'm not sure if you're really aware of the status of the VR gaming. It seems like you want to be pessimistic without having any real basis behind it.

                                                          Bethesda for example is already committed to releasing Fallout 4, Doom 4 and Skyrim in VR. Epic is focusing on VR as well.

                                                          You can't ignore actual trends in VR just because you don't like it, especially when you're wrong with your statement "Developing games is expensive and no one is going to develop for it", especially when Rift/Vive support are being embraced by more and more AAA developers. Not to mention the fact there's going to be major VR releases for the Playstation VR. That statement just shows ignorance.

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                                                            Can't hurt to wait to see which implementation is adopted either. By that time hardware will be a bit better as well. IDK here we are with christmas season right around the corner and there isn't much if any aaa support on the pc. Its concerning.
                                                            Originally posted by Mangler
                                                            Good work guys, we can't have too many positive posts in a row on this forum.

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                                                              Originally posted by Exposed View Post
                                                              I'm not sure if you're really aware of the status of the VR gaming. It seems like you want to be pessimistic without having any real basis behind it.

                                                              Bethesda for example is already committed to releasing Fallout 4, Doom 4 and Skyrim in VR. Epic is focusing on VR as well.

                                                              You can't ignore actual trends in VR just because you don't like it, especially when you're wrong with your statement "Developing games is expensive and no one is going to develop for it", especially when Rift/Vive support are being embraced by more and more AAA developers. Not to mention the fact there's going to be major VR releases for the Playstation VR. That statement just shows ignorance.
                                                              I will admit to being pessimistic about VR. As of now I don't see it making it big time. I will also admit to a bit of ignorance because I don't know what you mean by fallout 4, doom 4 and skyrim in VR. Are you just playing the same game with a headset on or are they being enhanced for VR.

                                                              Regardless I certainly don't see info out there that VR is selling out.

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                                                                Oculus connect is starting today

                                                                Main keynote is tomorrow

                                                                Should see a flood of news soon

                                                                It will be livestreamed don twitch https://www.twitch.tv/oculus
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                                                                  Originally posted by dmanna View Post
                                                                  I will admit to being pessimistic about VR. As of now I don't see it making it big time. I will also admit to a bit of ignorance because I don't know what you mean by fallout 4, doom 4 and skyrim in VR. Are you just playing the same game with a headset on or are they being enhanced for VR.

                                                                  Regardless I certainly don't see info out there that VR is selling out.
                                                                  They are being "enhanced" for VR, meaning new interface, changes to rendering, tracking, and anything else to make the VR experience better. If it's anything like current native VR implementations, this is going to be a major enhancement.

                                                                  http://www.roadtovr.com/fallout-4-vr...ve-whole-game/

                                                                  Also, the VR industry is growing rapidly. It's already a multi-billion dollar industry in 2016:

                                                                  TrendForce Forecasts VR Market Value to Hit US$70 Billion in 2020


                                                                  http://press.trendforce.com/node/view/2210.html


                                                                  A newer, different report expects this to top 160 billion in 2020:
                                                                  http://www.telecompetitor.com/idc-au...llion-in-2020/
                                                                  Last edited by Exposed; Oct 5, 2016, 07:47 AM.

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                                                                    Originally posted by Exposed View Post
                                                                    They are being "enhanced" for VR, meaning new interface, changes to rendering, tracking, and anything else to make the VR experience better. If it's anything like current native VR implementations, this is going to be a major enhancement.

                                                                    http://www.roadtovr.com/fallout-4-vr...ve-whole-game/

                                                                    Also, the VR industry is growing rapidly. It's already a multi-billion dollar industry in 2016:

                                                                    TrendForce Forecasts VR Market Value to Hit US$70 Billion in 2020


                                                                    http://press.trendforce.com/node/view/2210.html


                                                                    A newer, different report expects this to top 160 billion in 2020:
                                                                    http://www.telecompetitor.com/idc-au...llion-in-2020/
                                                                    i could swear that 3d gaming and tv's had the same hype and projections. We all know how that turned out.

                                                                    So im very dubious still and quite frankly havent seen anything more than cool tech demos. VR has alot of the same drawbacks as 3dtv/vision. Once real games show up ill revisit my opinion.

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                                                                      I was interested in VR until I heard it does not work with older or current games. The game has to be specially made for VR which really hampers gameplay choices.
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                                                                        Originally posted by Higgy10 View Post
                                                                        i could swear that 3d gaming and tv's had the same hype and projections. We all know how that turned out.

                                                                        So im very dubious still and quite frankly havent seen anything more than cool tech demos. VR has alot of the same drawbacks as 3dtv/vision. Once real games show up ill revisit my opinion.
                                                                        VR is on another level to 3Dvision. Especially the level of immersion. You really feel as if you're there, and you get wierd motion sensations (not motion sickness) when you're moving "in game" like a FPS. Your body actually thinks you're moving even though you're standing still/sitting. And in any situation you can stand up, sit, move around (much more limited on Rift but still doable), peek upside down, everything you can do in reality except in a virtual world....miles ahead of immersion compared to regular 3D gaming.

                                                                        3D gaming lasted actually quite a while before it basically "died", you're talking 10+ years overall (IZ3D, Wicked3D, etc.. ) and 7+ years since 3D Vision was first introduced in 2008. And while it's dead for AMD, 3D Vision is actually kept alive by the community...but more and more are switching over to VR because it is a much more satisfying stereoscopic experience.
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                                                                          Originally posted by Destroy View Post
                                                                          I was interested in VR until I heard it does not work with older or current games. The game has to be specially made for VR which really hampers gameplay choices.
                                                                          VR is not stereoscopic gaming like 3D Vision. It introduces an immersion factor not possible with standard 3D gaming. It also renders quite differently than regular stereoscopic gaming (to emulate your first person view).

                                                                          That said, you CAN run current and older titles with a program called Vorpx. It will allow you to run these games on an Oculus Rift/Vive with head tracking, though you will have to tinker with settings for the best experience. Luckily, you can share profiles so chances are someone will have created a profile for Rift/Vive users for a game you want to play.

                                                                          http://www.vorpx.com/

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                                                                            Originally posted by Exposed View Post
                                                                            VR is on another level to 3Dvision. Especially the level of immersion. You really feel as if you're there, and you get wierd motion sensations (not motion sickness) when you're moving "in game" like a FPS. Your body actually thinks you're moving even though you're standing still/sitting. And in any situation you can stand up, sit, move around (much more limited on Rift but still doable), peek upside down, everything you can do in reality except in a virtual world....miles ahead of immersion compared to regular 3D gaming.

                                                                            3D gaming lasted actually quite a while before it basically "died", you're talking 10+ years overall (IZ3D, Wicked3D, etc.. ) and 7+ years since 3D Vision was first introduced in 2008. And while it's dead for AMD, 3D Vision is actually kept alive by the community...but more and more are switching over to VR because it is a much more satisfying stereoscopic experience.
                                                                            you do realize(last page even) that i actually used it? I think i even said i loved it too.

                                                                            That being said i still stand by my opinion. Do you dispute that vr has alot of the same drawbacks as 3d?

                                                                            Let me know when they do a battletech vr game, now that was the bomb as a kid

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                                                                              Originally posted by Higgy10 View Post
                                                                              i could swear that 3d gaming and tv's had the same hype and projections. We all know how that turned out.

                                                                              So im very dubious still and quite frankly havent seen anything more than cool tech demos. VR has alot of the same drawbacks as 3dtv/vision. Once real games show up ill revisit my opinion.
                                                                              I'm a big 3d vision fanboy and this is hard to argue with. All of the same companies for the most part are hopping on the bandwagon. Seems like thanks to Nvidia paying off developers we at least got some solid 3d vision titles. Sadly the quality of those started to slip and like 3dtvs its just dead now.

                                                                              I'm really hoping that this takes off but there aren't any real games now and doesn't seem to be much in the works. Bethesda seems to be opting for vive support. Then there is obduction. Other than that and what appears to be a serious sam mini game I'm not seeing much even in the works.

                                                                              I want to hop on the bandwagon but just can't justify it.
                                                                              Originally posted by Mangler
                                                                              Good work guys, we can't have too many positive posts in a row on this forum.

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                                                                                Originally posted by Higgy10 View Post
                                                                                you do realize(last page even) that i actually used it? I think i even said i loved it too.

                                                                                That being said i still stand by my opinion. Do you dispute that vr has alot of the same drawbacks as 3d?

                                                                                Let me know when they do a battletech vr game, now that was the bomb as a kid
                                                                                You didn't say what apps you tried, so what did you play?

                                                                                VR has its own set of drawbacks, I wouldn't say they're the "same" as regular stereoscopic 3D. The rift headset is alot more comfortable for me than 3Dvision was as far as stereo comfort, likely because there's no tinkering involved. You set your pupil distance in the Rift setup (did you do this?), and that's it.

                                                                                I don't know if there's anything like a battletech VR game out there or in progress. There's this but has a first person pov:
                                                                                http://www.roadtovr.com/new-vox-mach...r-mech-mayhem/

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                                                                                  Tried damaged core, dirt rally, adrift, feral rights, and lucky tales. Ya i played with IPD, if memory serves me right i had a 65mm ipd.

                                                                                  The drawbacks are the same as 3d to me. Namely eye fatigue and headaches. I actually found the rift cumbersome and heavy on my head.(yes i know its barely a pound) Then again i can barely tolerate glasses so everyones mileage will vary on that one.

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