nV Drivers thread.

[Higgy10]

You have more underlying issues with your system.

I haven't had one problem with SLI on Windows 10 or TRI-SLI in any title so far. I did however have a memory leak issue back durring the public preview. But that was back in April...

Nv acknowledged theres an issue, but according to you its andino's system? NV surround has been very bad for a long time driver wise hap but acknowledging that would mean nv drivers aren't perfect.

[Hapatingjaky]

Nv acknowledged theres an issue, but according to you its andino's system? NV surround has been very bad for a long time driver wise hap but acknowledging that would mean nv drivers aren't perfect.

You obviously haven't read the last couple of posts Hig's.

so you are still getting BSOD's with just SLI without surround ?

Yeah...

If I am in SLI I still get the BSOD's....

There has been known issues for a long time with SLI+GSYNC+Surround. Even back when GSync first came out SLI causes problems, which was fixed then came the surround issues. Seems Nvidia still has a problem. I've also used Nvidia Surround without issue myself a few years back. Never had any problems.

As for Adino, he still have issues even with surround disabled. So more underlying problems then what Nvidia even stated.

Adino my friend, detach all screens, use just the one for the day and see if you have issues still in SLI. Otherwise, remove each card and try one at a time with Surround enabled, if it dosen't crash then we can look at power etc.

I'll send you an Nvidia SLI bridge if you want as well which may be the underlying culprit. I find these, the ones from EVGA and Asus to be better and solved some stutter issues I had. I find the cheap flimsy ones shipped with motherboards to be poor. Plus it looks cool.

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/sli/bridges

Let me know which one you want.

I am actually contemplating going and grabbing three Swifts just for shits and giggles and to test this out for him.

[bill dennison]

well 358.50 - WHQL win 8.1 and star wars battlefront beta one 980 getting about 35 fps at 4k with sli getting about 45 fps when playing if I stand still it will go up to 60 fps sometimes

I get 40 to 45 fps out of one fury x at 4k, 980 sli should be faster

have to try a few things but looks like poor sli scaling in this so far

[bittermann]

Seems like sli and xfire are always the last to be optimized

[Hapatingjaky]

well 358.50 - WHQL win 8.1 and star wars battlefront beta one 980 getting about 35 fps at 4k with sli getting about 45 fps when playing if I stand still it will go up to 60 fps sometimes

I get 40 to 45 fps out of one fury x at 4k, 980 sli should be faster

have to try a few things but looks like poor sli scaling in this so far

Aye, my SLI scaling is shat in Battlefront as well.

[bill dennison]

Seems like sli and xfire are always the last to be optimized

3 or 4 day beta they are not going to put a ton of work into, just hope it works better next month when it is out

[Megaman]

Aye, my SLI scaling is shat in Battlefront as well.

What.... You thought you'd be unaffected because you have Titan X's???


Pffffft!

[andino]

You obviously haven't read the last couple of posts Hig's.





There has been known issues for a long time with SLI+GSYNC+Surround. Even back when GSync first came out SLI causes problems, which was fixed then came the surround issues. Seems Nvidia still has a problem. I've also used Nvidia Surround without issue myself a few years back. Never had any problems.

As for Adino, he still have issues even with surround disabled. So more underlying problems then what Nvidia even stated.

Adino my friend, detach all screens, use just the one for the day and see if you have issues still in SLI. Otherwise, remove each card and try one at a time with Surround enabled, if it dosen't crash then we can look at power etc.

I'll send you an Nvidia SLI bridge if you want as well which may be the underlying culprit. I find these, the ones from EVGA and Asus to be better and solved some stutter issues I had. I find the cheap flimsy ones shipped with motherboards to be poor. Plus it looks cool.

http://www.geforce.com/hardware/technology/sli/bridges

Let me know which one you want.

I am actually contemplating going and grabbing three Swifts just for shits and giggles and to test this out for him.

I already have an EVGA SLI bridge on it. But, seriously, thanks for the offer! I felt the same way about the ROG bridge. It just looks so cheap.

I did unplug the 2 side monitors and went into SLI when I was testing stuff out for the Level 1 Nvidia tech. Afterwards I lost most of the Nvidia Control Panel. I had 2 options in it. Something like Adjust image settings and Manage 3d settings and the rest was blank. Also, if I tried to look at display properties from the desktop I BSODed.

A tech at EVGA gave me the skinny on what is going on...

Hello,

Unfortunately EVGA is not capable of implementing driver hotfixes on the side of Nvidia. After further research it seems to be a Microsoft issue where the registry changes associated with dxgkrnl will not update if a driver change is made. Both Nvidia and Microsoft are aware of this behavior and are working on a solution. Please let us know if there is anything else we can assist you with in regard to your EVGA products by contact support at [email protected] or 888-881-3842 for further assistance.

Thank you,
EVGA

Also, I don't have the G-Sync monitors. I have the older versions without the G-Sink.. My plan was to upgrade to the swifts after Christmas or so but with all the problems those guys are having I think I'll wait a while...

[Hapatingjaky]

I already have an EVGA SLI bridge on it. But, seriously, thanks for the offer! I felt the same way about the ROG bridge. It just looks so cheap.

I did unplug the 2 side monitors and went into SLI when I was testing stuff out for the Level 1 Nvidia tech. Afterwards I lost most of the Nvidia Control Panel. I had 2 options in it. Something like Adjust image settings and Manage 3d settings and the rest was blank. Also, if I tried to look at display properties from the desktop I BSODed.

A tech at EVGA gave me the skinny on what is going on...



Also, I don't have the G-Sync monitors. I have the older versions without the G-Sink.. My plan was to upgrade to the swifts after Christmas or so but with all the problems those guys are having I think I'll wait a while...

Did you try DDU?

http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/display-driver-uninstaller-download.html

Download DDU and the latest driver, once done unplug your CAT5/6/7 cable or disable your wireless. I do this now so that Windows 10 won't force a driver right after the install, I've had this happen.... Uninstall the driver reboot in to SAFEMODE, run DDU and click options on the top left. Set your screen like I have:



Click the Clean and DO NOT restart button for both AMD and Nvidia and then exit DDU. If you have a program like CCleaner installed you can run that next or restart in to normal Windows and re-install the new driver.

From your Nvidia CP being screwed up I'd say the driver was corrupt, maybe the download itself was corrupt.

Give this a shot, DDU is not going to **** anything up. But when you do install the new driver, do a custom install, uncheck everything except the display driver and just try a base install. See what happens and report back.

[andino]

Already have.

I have been using DDU for the last 2 months thinking that it was a driver package issue or something along the lines of a overwrite issue.

But yeah, I have tried all of those steps and then some.

I'm on my 9th or 10th fresh install of Windows 10. I have tried it on other hard drives, other mother boards, other ram, other CPU's, other PSU's. I have unplugged every USB device and every monitor. I've even changed the media type that I have installed on.

Unfortunately, I'm done. I can get it stable-ish... So I' m cool. I'd be better if they actually fixed the bug, obviously... But I really don't want to go back to Windows 8.1 and have the fix come out soon after that. And from my understanding the fix should be out in the next little while. Plus I hate windows 8.1....

But thanks!

[Hapatingjaky]

You have the Corsair HX1050 right? How many separate PCIE power cables do you use to power the 980's? 2 or 4?

[andino]

4.. Mostly because I am anal that way...

[Meteor_of_War]

I think you have to use 4 on the 980 Ti's.

[Hapatingjaky]

I think you have to use 4 on the 980 Ti's.

Aye, but according to his PSU there are two version, 1 being a 80 Plus silver and the other an 80 plus gold digital, there are only 4 ports on his PSU for CPU 12v and PCIe. This means he wouldn't be able to use 4. Either he's using two or 3+Molex adapters which I wouldn't recommend considering that his hybrids pull 30amps, 25amps per GPU + 5amps per pump/fan. 60 amps for the GPU factor in another 20amps for the CPU that only leaves him 7 amps before he saturates the 12v rail on 1050, and this is if he's not OCing. So his PSU is cabable of 1200watts, but he can't saturate the 12v rail which he is probably coming close to. Factor in Molex to PCIe which is iffy to begin with. Unless he's got Molex to CPU which I wouldn't really want to try.

I grabbed two more Samsung screens this weekend instead of the Swift's, going to wait for the Asus curved 34" Gsync screens. Been playing some GTAV, COD:AW and WoW. Haven't had an issue, although they are not 144Hz screens. But no BSOD's under Windows 10 yet. Performance is meh in most titles even with TRI-SLI Titan-X's. WOW and COD:AW see excellent, GTAV not so much.

I've PM'd Adino instead of causing this thread to go OT anymore.

[Mangler]

Seems like one can use all for pci-e connectors unless you have a MB that needs two 8 pin connectors.



Both version of the hx1050 comes with a non-modular 8 pin connector.

[Hapatingjaky]

Seems like one can use all for pci-e connectors unless you have a MB that needs two 8 pin connectors.



Both version of the hx1050 comes with a non-modular 8 pin connector.

He forgot to update his specs he's actually using the EVGA SuperNova 1000 G2 which has less amps then the HX1050 on the 12v rail. Only 83amps. The HX1050 he would need to use two ports as he has a 4pin and 8pin CPU motherboard.

[andino]

Got a partial fix with the new hotfix nvidia drivers and the windows update.

I haven't had a bsod when I click the display settings from desktop.

I still can't watch videos in surround though.

Take it out of surround and it works like a charm.

[Megaman]

358.87 WHQL are out

[Kain]

How come I can still download the latest NVIDIA drivers without GeForce Experience? I thought you could only download the latest Game Ready drivers through GeForce Experience from now on.

[logical]

How come I can still download the latest NVIDIA drivers without GeForce Experience? I thought you could only download the latest Game Ready drivers through GeForce Experience from now on.

Nvidia said they were making the switch in not the not too distant future. That time has not come yet.

[Seyiji]

Let the onslaught begin.

Game ready driver for Fallout 4, Legacy of the Void and Battlefront 3

Driver version 358.91

http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/geforce-358-91-whql-driver-released

No SLI profiles were added with this release.
No 3D Vision profiles were added with this release.
No compatibility mode profiles were added with this release.

[Megaman]

Yep.... Bethesda worked "closely" with Nvidia. No one bothered to bring up the SLI profile support.

They probably need Jen-Hsun Huang's permission on that but as he is away doing the Cannon Ball run in his new Tesla, they postponed it until his return.

[andino]

Like they have SLI working.....

So, I came to the conclusion that the only reason that I got SLI working in Surround is because Microsoft fixed it.

I updated the drivers to the Fallout drivers last week and *poof* SLI in Surround was broken again. Same problems as before including the changing hertz rates on the 3 monitors.

ALL OF THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FIXED 3 DRIVER VERSIONS AGO!!!!!

Luckily for me Microsoft released a update a few days later that totally rewrote the Nvidia drivers and fixed the Surround SLI issues.

So to recap, Microsoft can fix the f***ng drivers that Nvidia can't.

[andino]

I'm just not going to update drivers with Nvidia anymore.

They break my rig.

[Megaman]

359.00 WHQL

[Mangler]

359.00 WHQL

^

For those who do not wish to make a nvidia account.

[Megaman]

Seems to work without an account.

[andino]

I've learned my lesson.

DO NOT update official Nvidia driver.

I'll wait for Microsoft to release them to my computer.

That is the only way that I can be sure that it won't break my SLI set up....

[Megaman]

Thought you would have learnt a lesson by now for purchasing SLI. I have.

[andino]

I just love the 3 screen gaming though.

[BababooeyHTJ]

Thought you would have learnt a lesson by now for purchasing SLI. I have.

Idk, I mostly had a good experience. I do prefer a single gpu if possible. Definitely a smoother ride.

[Megaman]

Don't get me wrong, SLI is fantastic when both NV and the developer strive to take advantage of it but if one of them drops the ball on it or the gaming engine is too "complex" to implement it on, as we have seen with Batman Arkham knight, then it's not worthy of having if that trend continues.

Bethesda, with Fallout 4, worked "closely" with NV. It has gameworks, which is a performance hog, but they didn't bother with an SLI profile?

[|MaguS|]

Don't get me wrong, SLI is fantastic when both NV and the developer strive to take advantage of it but if one of them drops the ball on it or the gaming engine is too "complex" to implement it on, as we have seen with Batman Arkham knight, then it's not worthy of having if that trend continues.

Bethesda, with Fallout 4, worked "closely" with NV. It has gameworks, which is a performance hog, but they didn't bother with an SLI profile?

In all fairness I don't think a developer should ever be blamed for their game lacking crossfire or SLi support, its up to Nvidia to program the drivers to support the game. Engines barely need coding since most are based of an existing engine. Batman is just Unreal Engine 3 and Fallout 4 is just the Skyrim engine, both those supported multigpu in the past.

Nvidia is slacking because they really don't need to try. They have a strangle hold on the market.

[Megaman]

In the case of Arkham knight, the devs took the blame.

The developers at Rocksteady Studios have given up on fixing multi-GPU support in Batman: Arkham Knight.

At this point in game's development -- post release for a second time -- cleaning up the code to improve the experience for gamers running SLI and Crossfire configurations is proving too much work for too little payoff. Continuing to develop for mulit-GPU setups could also introduce more problems for all players, and that's not something WB is keen on doing.

Devs still play a roll in multi GPU

http://hothardware.com/news/batman-arkham-knight-devs-cancel-support-for-nvidia-sli-amd-crossfire-gpu-configs

[|MaguS|]

In the case of Arkham knight, the devs took the blame.








Devs still play a roll in multi GPU



http://hothardware.com/news/batman-a...re-gpu-configs

They probably don't want to bother working with Nvidia anymore. They have to provide information to nvidia so they can work with the engine but they are not programming the drivers or telling nvidia how to make a profile. Most likely are passing whitepapers and documents to nvidia but now that Warner is cutting funding from support (mind you most of the PC support is not being done by Rocksteady) is probably why its coming to a dead end. Why continue to work with another party when you aren't being paid to do so anymore?

[Megaman]

Yeah well if it was released in a reasonable state they would have done their bit to get it into a reasonable state for NV to do their thing. Unfortunately, their priorities were to get the game back onto steam so they could get their money.

[Megaman]

361.43 are out

[Megaman]

361.60 Hotfix


It addresses crashes in Photoshop & Illustrator, as well as install & clocking related issues.

[Kain]

Is there a way to prevent GeForce Experience from auto starting up after loading Windows?

[Megaman]

Is it in the scheduled task list? Disable it there.