nV Drivers thread.

[|MaguS|]

I have seen nothing wrong with DSR, no image problems or anything, looks pretty damn good to me.

I noticed obvious blurring in textures, only time it looked decent was at 10% or lower but performance on some high end games wasn't that great. I should try it with my card overclocked.

[Hapatingjaky]

I am scared to test to see if the black screen issue has been fixed....

DSR works with SLI.

[Meteor_of_War]

I've been playing around with DSR in a couple games (Bioshock:Infinite, Dark Souls) and I'll be damned if I can notice a difference worth the hit in performance.

I think the problem is there isn't a big enough jump in clarity going to 4k from 2560x1440. Maybe if I was on a 1080p display I'd see a bigger improvement?

Either that or my eyes are just getting bad in my old age.

[|MaguS|]

I've been playing around with DSR in a couple games (Bioshock:Infinite, Dark Souls) and I'll be damned if I can notice a difference worth the hit in performance.

I think the problem is there isn't a big enough jump in clarity going to 4k from 2560x1440. Maybe if I was on a 1080p display I'd see a bigger improvement?

Either that or my eyes are just getting bad in my old age.

Well 4k isn't as a huge jump from 1440p then it would be from 1080p.

[Meteor_of_War]

Well 4k isn't as a huge jump from 1440p then it would be from 1080p.

Yeah that's what I'm thinking.

I took some comparison screenshots in Bioshock Infinite and I can definitely see enhanced clarity in some textures, but VERY minor and sure as hell can't see it while in motion.

I think I will simply use DSR strictly in older games (if supported) where the performance hit is negligible. For example Dark Souls is still pegged at 60fps for me when at 4k DSR.

[Megaman]

So what settings is everyone using? I tested it at 4x with 33% smoothness and I'm like meh.

[SirBaron]

I've been playing around with DSR in a couple games (Bioshock:Infinite, Dark Souls) and I'll be damned if I can notice a difference worth the hit in performance.

I think the problem is there isn't a big enough jump in clarity going to 4k from 2560x1440. Maybe if I was on a 1080p display I'd see a bigger improvement?

Either that or my eyes are just getting bad in my old age.

I use a 1440p panel and I can see quite a bit of difference. It mainly comes from the lack of aliasing, though it's more pronounced on games where aliasing is really bad.

[Arghuin]

I use a 1440p panel and I can see quite a bit of difference. It mainly comes from the lack of aliasing, though it's more pronounced on games where aliasing is really bad.

Indeed...running WoW at 4k, with in-game antialiasing disabled, on my 1080p eizo foris screen looks all kinds of awesome as opposed to native 1080p rendering, with the antialiasing solution Blizz has currently incorporated....same goes for Diablo 3

[Hapatingjaky]

Indeed...running WoW at 4k, with in-game antialiasing disabled, on my 1080p eizo foris screen looks all kinds of awesome as opposed to native 1080p rendering, with the antialiasing solution Blizz has currently incorporated....same goes for Diablo 3

Run CMAA and not FXAA Low or High. Running at native 4K I can still see the jaggies and shimmering from time to time.

Diablo 3 has always been a joke, low res DX9 title. The AA method used is FXAA low which blurs.

[Meteor_of_War]

I use a 1440p panel and I can see quite a bit of difference. It mainly comes from the lack of aliasing, though it's more pronounced on games where aliasing is really bad.

Maybe as I try it in more games I'll start to notice the improvement more.

[Redeemed]

DL'ing this now, leary to see how DSR will work on my 770. As I mostly play older titles, maybe it'll work quite well.

[BababooeyHTJ]

Indeed...running WoW at 4k, with in-game antialiasing disabled, on my 1080p eizo foris screen looks all kinds of awesome as opposed to native 1080p rendering, with the antialiasing solution Blizz has currently incorporated....same goes for Diablo 3

Sgssaa works pretty well in d3 though

[koralis]

I've been playing around with DSR in a couple games (Bioshock:Infinite, Dark Souls) and I'll be damned if I can notice a difference worth the hit in performance.

I think the problem is there isn't a big enough jump in clarity going to 4k from 2560x1440. Maybe if I was on a 1080p display I'd see a bigger improvement?

Either that or my eyes are just getting bad in my old age.

You won't see improved clarity. If you're on a 1440 display, you're still seeing EXACTLY the same amount of data on the screen.

The only thing that would change is the color of individual pixels (probably only really noticeable at color boundary edges),). Rendering at 1440 may yield one color, while rendering at 4k and doing a gausian scale might result in a slightly different (and probably more accurate) color.

But yes, the bigger the discrepancy in rendering sizes, the bigger the chance for aliasing improvements.


Still haven't tried it yet myself... just downloaded the new drivers. Might possibly replace TXAA for me in certain games... one of my big pet peeves is crawling edge aliasing issues. Wonder if/when they'll allow DSR to be per-game configurable?

[|MaguS|]

You won't see improved clarity. If you're on a 1440 display, you're still seeing EXACTLY the same amount of data on the screen.

The only thing that would change is the color of individual pixels (probably only really noticeable at color boundary edges),). Rendering at 1440 may yield one color, while rendering at 4k and doing a gausian scale might result in a slightly different (and probably more accurate) color.

But yes, the bigger the discrepancy in rendering sizes, the bigger the chance for aliasing improvements.


Still haven't tried it yet myself... just downloaded the new drivers. Might possibly replace TXAA for me in certain games... one of my big pet peeves is crawling edge aliasing issues. Wonder if/when they'll allow DSR to be per-game configurable?

Its just a resolution option within the game. Its not like an on\off setting.

[koralis]

Hmmm... so if I enable it on my 1920x1200 monitor I'd have access to 1920x1200 or whatever DSR size I set within the game? If I choose 1920 then it's the same as normal (ie. DSR off) but if I pick the larger size it gets scaled down for me?


I guess that works. I was under the impression it was forcing the game to output the higher resolution, not merely making it available.


Looks like the DSR sizing only allows you to pick a single size though... might be nice if you could change sizes depending on how demanding the particular game is.

[Arghuin]

Run CMAA and not FXAA Low or High. Running at native 4K I can still see the jaggies and shimmering from time to time.

Even CMAA is terrible compared to the old AA method and the ability to 'force' any AA from within nV's control panel (was running 32xCSAA with 2x SSAA pre 6.0.2 patch). I will stand by my (subjective) opinion that on a 1080p monitor at the moment for WoW in terms of quality downscaled 4k DSR without any AA>1080p with CMAA

Sgssaa works pretty well in d3 though

True, but to me it feels like the DSR performance hit is actually smaller for better (again, subjective) image quality.

[BababooeyHTJ]

Tried it out in gta iv and with the right settings it ran surprisingly well

[Mangler]

Hmmm... so if I enable it on my 1920x1200 monitor I'd have access to 1920x1200 or whatever DSR size I set within the game? If I choose 1920 then it's the same as normal (ie. DSR off) but if I pick the larger size it gets scaled down for me?


I guess that works. I was under the impression it was forcing the game to output the higher resolution, not merely making it available.


Looks like the DSR sizing only allows you to pick a single size though... might be nice if you could change sizes depending on how demanding the particular game is.

Not true, all of these resolutions will be available to pick from ingame.

[Meteor_of_War]

Yeah the Nvidia driver cp allow you to check off a bunch of different custom resolutions, then they will appear in the resolution settings of your game.

Real simple.

[Megaman]

Not true, all of these resolutions will be available to pick from ingame.

Wait! Turning on DSR gives you new options in game?

I thought the CP was what determined the setting. Ok. Will test again tonight.

[Meteor_of_War]

Wait! Turning on DSR gives you new options in game?

I thought the CP was what determined the setting. Ok. Will test again tonight.

Read my post right above yours.

It is essentially just a more streamlined way of creating custom resolutions.

[Megaman]

Read my post right above yours.

Yeah I know it was a one liner post then I added the second part when I read yours.

[KAC]

So, anyone tried the new 3d profiles?

[KAC]

What DSR smoothness do you use?

[Dave]

What DSR smoothness do you use?

I use 26%

[Arghuin]

What DSR smoothness do you use?

Depends on the game, the DSR resolution multiplier and your eyes

For WoW and D3 at 4k I have the smoothness set to 0%, but if I use the 1440p option, i have it set to 25%

[Megaman]

DSR and bf4 work at 4K or what ever the highest is. Getting 55 to 65 fps with 780 SLI non oc.

[koralis]

Yep.. works just fine, multiple resolution choices, etc. Not especially useful if you can't figure out how to scale the GUI in various games though. Will need to research.

[KAC]

Tried it in multiple games but not feeling DSR. Image becomes really blurry. Can't seem to fix it. Moving back to native resolution.

[bill dennison]

Tried it in multiple games but not feeling DSR. Image becomes really blurry. Can't seem to fix it. Moving back to native resolution.

what smoothness where you using, for me anything over 25% was =barf

http://techreport.com/review/27102/maxwell-dynamic-super-resolution-explored/4

I didn't care much for it at 1600 even 2x kill frame rate to much for to little

[Meteor_of_War]

Tried it in multiple games but not feeling DSR. Image becomes really blurry. Can't seem to fix it. Moving back to native resolution.

More blurry? It should make the image more sharp and clear.

Mess around with the smoothness setting.

[|MaguS|]

More blurry? It should make the image more sharp and clear.

Mess around with the smoothness setting.

Its the downsampling method, no matter how high the res its using a low fidelity method that blurs textures.

http://techreport.com/review/27102/maxwell-dynamic-super-resolution-explored/4

[BababooeyHTJ]

I prefer sgssaa. It looks better at a fraction of the performance hit

[|MaguS|]

I prefer sgssaa. It looks better at a fraction of the performance hit

Not every game supports SGSSAA. I wish someone would benchmark AA vs DSR. Would be interesting to see.

[Meteor_of_War]

Its the downsampling method, no matter how high the res its using a low fidelity method that blurs textures.

http://techreport.com/review/27102/m...ion-explored/4

Its just too hard for me to notice on a 1440p display.

[|MaguS|]

Its just too hard for me to notice on a 1440p display.

Might be you, I notice it easy on games that have a lot of sharp textures. I found 10% though to be the least amount of blur vs performance. Texture degradation isn't a blur fest at that setting.

[demo]

I think DSR looks incredibly good in the right games. Rome2 for example has never looked better

2.25x and 4x are the only settings that look clean though imo, which at 1920x1080 translate to 2880x1620 and 3840x2160.

Great feature.

[Megaman]

Yep! I feel like DSR has somewhat postponed the need to move to a higher res monitor. I know it's not the same but it'll do for now until prices drop

[Meteor_of_War]

Might be you, I notice it easy on games that have a lot of sharp textures. I found 10% though to be the least amount of blur vs performance. Texture degradation isn't a blur fest at that setting.

Might be my eyes, but might also be that I haven't tried it in many games yet.

I'm sure it will be a nice feature when used appropriately. Meaning, for older games where I have plenty of performance to spare.

[|MaguS|]

I think DSR looks incredibly good in the right games. Rome2 for example has never looked better

2.25x and 4x are the only settings that look clean though imo, which at 1920x1080 translate to 2880x1620 and 3840x2160.

Great feature.

If the game doesn't use textures with insane details. Like an RTS or something like diablo 3 it looks good.