Official Catalyst Application Profiles FAQ!

[caveman-jim]

As you've seen, Rage3D is home to the latest Catalyst Driver Application Profile updates, before anywhere else - even GAME.AMD.COM. To help clarify what the Application Profile Updates are all about, here is some basic info:

As of 7/28/11 AMD have ended the exclusive posting of CAP's at Rage3D before they appear on AMD.com's own download pages.

• So what's the application profile doohickey thinger?
  It's a method for AMD to deliver driver updates and fixes for games faster. Read more about the Catalyst Driver architecture changes here!
• What driver do I use?
  Any driver that supports Profile Updates (i.e. 10.2 or newer), but it's recommended to use the latest WHQL driver set released on Game.AMD.com. Or, use the latest Preview driver set posted on AMD Underground!
• Where do I get the Application Profile Updates?
  Check our Profile Download page! Keep an eye on the Rage3D front page for the newest releases, too.
• Is this for Eyefinity or CrossfireX only? I'm a regular joe with a single card and display.
  Single card, Multiple card, single display, multiple display, mobility - as long as your product is supported by the main catalyst driver, the application profile update applies. Do eeet! Do eeet nauuughh!
• OK, I ran the installer for the profile update - now what?
  That's all you need to do! The fixes and enhancements are enabled for the titles they apply to, no need to do anything!
• I don't see anything under CCC - Profiles? Did it fail?
  Catalyst Application Profiles are Driver profile updates, not User profiles. You won't see anything under 'CCC - Profiles' that you don't create.
• I've got an older version of ATI Catalyst installed, what do I do?
  Use Catalyst Install Manager (in Add/Remove Programs) to Custom uninstall CCC and Display Driver. Reboot, and run the new driver Express Install. Reboot if prompted, Install the Application Profile.
• Are new profiles cumulative and inclusive (newer profiles contain all the fixes from prior profiles) or are older profile 'fixes' included with each driver new release?
  
  Yes. You only need the most current CAP. Fixes are moved into the next driver releases, too.
  
  
• I have Cat 10.3 installed with the first 10.3 profile update. What now?
  Remove the CAP and Install the latest Application Profile update!
  
  
• I have an older Application Profile update, what should I do?
  It can be left installed without any problems. However, uninstalling from Add/Remove programs takes mere seconds and doesn't require a reboot.
  
  
• I don't like having things installed unnecessarily. How do I keep my system 'clean'?
  You can uninstall Application Profiles that apply to older Catalyst driver releases using Add/Remove Programs.
  
  
• If I'm having problems and I suspect it's because of driver install issues, what should I do?
  This is what the Caveman does for Driver freshness. You'll need two free tools - CCleaner and DriverSweeper. You'll also need to know how to reboot into safe mode, and to be able to use 'common sense'.
  
  

  • Disable Eyefinity groups, Crossfire, if enabled
  • Optional - Enter Device Manager: Uninstall Display Adapters and check box for 'Delete Device Driver'
  • Add/Remove Programs: Remove currently installed Application Profile updates (if installed)
  • Uninstall CCC and Display Driver, using Catalyst Install Manager Custom mode (Don't express uninstall if you have an AMD Chipset)
  • Reboot into safe mode
  • Run Driver Sweeper for ATI Display Drivers, don't reboot.
  • Run CCleaner for Registry - run Analyze and only select ATI entries for removal.
  • Delete the following folders (applies to Vista/7)
    • SystemDrive:\ProgramData\ATI
    • SystemDrive:\Users\username\AppData\Local\ATI
    • SystemDrive:\Users\username\AppData\Roaming\ATI
  • Reboot to desktop, run Express install on desired Catalyst driver & reboot if prompted.
  • Install the latest Catalyst Application Profile.
  • Re-enable Crossfire; re-create Eyefinity groups; Overdrive/CCC Profiles
  • Enjoy!

  
  

If you have further questions, please ask!

List of Changes in Application Profile Update

• • Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3: Improves CrossFire performance
  • Saints Row 3 (DirectX 9 version): Improves CrossFire performance
  • Serious Sam 3: Improves CrossFire performance
  • Java Control Panel: Fixes black screen corruption seen on single and multi GPU configurations when Anti-Aliasing is forced on through the Catalyst Control Center
• • Saints Row 3: Resolves stuttering seen when playing in CrossFireX mode.
  • Also provides Single GPU and CrossFireX performance improvements when running in lower resolution configurations
  • Gothic 4 Arcania: Fall of Setarrif: Improves CrossFire performance
• • Battlefield 3: Tweaks to the CrossFire profile
  • Global Ops - Commando Libya: Improves CrossFire performance
  • Driver San Francisco: Disables CrossFire
• • Battlefield 3 – Provides great CrossFire scaling and resolves stuttering issues when running in CrossFire mode.
  • Deus Ex Missing Link: Improves CrossFire performance
  • F1 2011: Improves CrossFire performance
  • Dead Island: Improves CrossFire performance
  • Batman Arkham City (DX9 version): Improves CrossFire performance
  • NBA 2012: Disables CrossFire
• • Battlefield 3 - Improves Crossfire Performance [color=red]*May cause issues*[/red]
• • Serious Sam 3 - Improves Crossfire Performance
  • Saint's Row: The Third - Improves Crossfire Performance
  • Red Orchestra 2 - Improves Crossfire Performance
• • Red Orchestra 2 - Improves Crossfire Performance
• • Hard Reset - Improves Crossfire Performance
• • Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine – Improves performance on Single GPU configurations
  • War Inc Battle Zone - Resolves image corruption seen when enabling Anti-Aliasing through the Catalyst Control Center
  • Call of Juarez The Cartel - Improves CrossFire performance
  • Rome Total War - Disables CrossFire support
  • F1 2011:
    • Improves performance on Single GPU configurations
    • Forced on Anti-Aliasing through the Catalyst Control Center has been disabled
  • Harry Potter and the Deathly Hollows Part 2 - Forced on Anti-Aliasing through the Catalyst Control Center now works
  • LA Noire - Improves CrossFire performance
  • Need for Speed World – Disable CrossFire support
  • Serious Sam HD : The First Encounter – Disable CrossFire support
  • Serious Sam HD Demo: The First Encounter – Disable CrossFire support
  • Serious Sam HD : The Second Encounter – Disable CrossFire support
  • Deus Ex3: Human Revolution(DX9) - Improves CrossFire performance
  • Shaun White Skateboarding - Improves CrossFire performance
  • MaxPayne3 - Improves CrossFire performance
• • Deus Ex: Human Revolution: Improves CrossFire performance for DX11
• • Total War: Shogun 2 - Resolves image quality issues with CrossFire enabled
  • Age of Conan
    • Improves CrossFire performance
    • Resolves image quality issues with CrossFire enabled
• • War Inc Battle Zone: Improves CrossFire performance
  • Rome Total War Alexander: Resolves image quality issues with CrossFire enabled
  • Pirates of Black Cove: Forced on Anti-Aliasing through the Catalyst Control Center has been disabled
  • Anno 1404: Dawn of Discovery Game: Resolves image quality issues with CrossFire enabled
  • Anima Redux Prius Online: Disables CrossFire support
• • Deus Ex: Improves CrossFire performance
• • Hydrophobia Prophecy - Resolves image quality issues with CrossFire enabled
  • Rise of Flight: Improves CrossFire performance
• • Medieval 2 Total War: New CrossFire Profile
  • Drakensang: The River of Time: New CrossFire Profile
  • Sanctum: New CrossFire profile
  • Shogun 2: Forced on Anti-Aliasing through the Catalyst Control Center has been disabled
  • Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine: Forced on Anti-Aliasing through the Catalyst Control Center has been disabled
  • WinDVD: Forced on Anti-Aliasing through the Catalyst Control Center has been disabled
  • Men of War: Assault Squad: Disables CrossFire support
  • Age of Empires Online: Disables CrossFire support
• • Alice Madness Returns: Improves CrossFire performance
• • Witcher 2 – Resolves missing NPI text and light source issues
  • Dungeons and Dragons: Daggerdale – Resolves flickering seen when running in CrossFire mode
• • Need for Speed Shift 2 – Improves CrossFire performance
  • LEGO: Pirates of Caribbean – Resolves flickering seen when running in CrossFire mode
• • Duke Nukem Forever – Forced on Anti-Aliasing through the Catalyst Control Center has been disabled
  • Force Unleashed – CrossFire Anti-Aliasing support
  • Transformers War for Cybertron – CrossFire Anti-Aliasing support
  • Garshasp The Monster Slayer – resolves negative CrossFire scaling
• • Portal 2 – Improves CrossFire performance
  • Red Faction: Armageddon – Improves CrossFire performance
  • The Next Big thing – resolves negative CrossFire scaling
  • Regnum Online – resolves negative CrossFire scaling
  • Company of Heroes – resolves flashing issues seen when running in CrossFire mode
• • Magicka – Forced on Anti-Aliasing through the Catalyst Control Center has been disabled
  • Cars 2 – resolves negative CrossFire scaling
  • Need for Speed Shift 2 – resolves negative CrossFire scaling
• • Deus Ex: Human Revolution – Improves CrossFire performance
  • Test Drive Unlimited – resolves negative CrossFire scaling
  • Need For Speed Hot Pursuit – resolves negative CrossFire scaling
  • Gothic III – resolves negative CrossFire scaling
• • Red Faction 4 – Improves CrossFire performance
  • Need For Speed Shift 2 – Disables CrossFire and resolves image quality issues
  • Crysis 2 – Improves CrossFire performance and resolves flickering issues
• • Aliens vs. Predator – Supports CrossFire up to 4 GPUs (previously only offered scaling up to 2 GPUs)
  • Dream Lords – resolves negative CrossFire scaling
  • The Sims: Medieval – resolves negative CrossFire scaling and Forced on Anti-Aliasing through the Catalyst Control Center has been disabled
  • Dark Spore – Improves CrossFire performance
  • Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood – Updated profile to further improve CrossFire performance
  • Duke Nukem Forever – Improves CrossFire performance
• • Crysis 2 - Resolve flickering screen issues [STEAM version]
• • Crysis 2 - Improves CrossFire performance
  • Dungeons – Improves CrossFire performance with forced on Anti-Aliasing
  • Crasher – Forced on Anti-Aliasing through the Catalyst Control Center has been disabled
  • Shogun 2 (DX9 version) – Improves CrossFire performance
  • America’s Army 3 - Improves CrossFire performance
  • Flatout: Ultimate Carnage - Improves CrossFire performance
• • Runaway – Resolves negative CrossFire scaling
  • Entropia – Improves CrossFire performance and quality
  • Crasher – Forced on Anti-Aliasing through the Catalyst Control Center has been disabled
  • Dirt 3 – Improves CrossFire performance
• • ComputeMark v1.2: Improves CrossFire performance
  • Breach – Forced on Anti-Aliasing through the Catalyst Control Center has been disabled
• • Need for Speed: Shift 2: Improves CrossFire performance
  • F1 2010: Fixes flickering seen on some tracks when running in CrossFire mode
• • Dva Mira 2 (Two Worlds 2) DX10 version: Improves CrossFire performance
  • Global Agenda: Improves CrossFire performance
  • RIFT: Improve CrossFire performance
  • Fable III – resolves negative CrossFire scaling
• • TRON Legacy – Improves CrossFire performance
• • 3DMark 2011 – Improves CrossFire performance
  • Dead Space 2 – Forced on Anti-Aliasing through the Catalyst Control Center has been disabled
• • HomeFront – Improves CrossFire performance
  • DvaMira 2.0 (Russion version of Two World 2) – Improves CrossFire performance
  • Final Fantasy XIV – Forced on Anti-Aliasing through the Catalyst Control Center has been disabled
  • Track Mania Nations Forever – Forced on Anti-Aliasing through the Catalyst Control Center has been disabled
• • Two Worlds 2: Improves CrossFire performance
  • James Bond 007 – Blood Stone: Improves CrossFire performance
  • Call of Duty: Black Ops: Improves CrossFire performance
  • Lion Heart – Enables Anti-Aliasing support through the Catalyst Control Center
  • F1 2010: Fixes water flickering when running in CrossFire mode
• • Nostradamus: The Last Prophecy – resolves negative CrossFire scaling by Disabling AFR
  • DarkFall – Forced on Anti-Aliasing through the Catalyst Control Center has been disabled
• • Lead 4 Dead 2 - The Sacrifice Updated Crossfire Profile
• • F1 2010 (DX9 mode) – improves CrossFire performance
  • Age of Wonders / Age of Wonders II – resolves negative CrossFire scaling issues
  • Just Cause 2 – improves CrossFire performance for 3 GPU configurations
  • ComputeMark – improves CrossFire performance
• • DX9
  • Multiplayer Medal of Honor CrossFire update
  • Darksider performance and CrossFire Anti-Aliasing update
  • NBA 2K11 CrossFire update
  • DX10/11
  • Stone Giant CrossFire update
  • Multiplayer Medal of Honor CrossFire update
  • CivV tweak CrossFire update
  • Hawx2 CrossFire update
  • F1 CrossFire update
  • World of Warcraft DX11 version CrossFire update
• • Aliens Vs. Predator – Profile update
  • Battlefield: Bad Company 2 – Profile update
  • F1 2010 – Profile update
  • Kane & Lynch 2 – New profile
• • BattleField - Bad Company 2 - CrossFire™ profile update
  • Aliens Vs. Predator – CrossFire™ profile update
• • Singularity – CrossFire™ profile update
  • Mafia 2 – CrossFire™ profile update
  • Final Fantasy XIV Benchmark – new CrossFire™ profile
  • Lord of the Rings Online – new CrossFire™ profile
  • Aliens Vs. Predator – CrossFire™ profile update
• • Fix for Company of Heroes
• • Support for AA for Anno1404
  • Support for AA for Nasa’s Moonbase Alpha
  • Performance profile for ArcaniA: Gothic 4
  • Support for AA for Singularity
• • Battlefield Bad Company 2 Fix for HD 5000 Crossfire users + Map Optimizations
• • Battlefield Bad Company 2 Fix for HD 5000 Crossfire users
• • Splinter Cell
  • Battlefield Bad Company 2 Fix
  • Same Fixes As 5-26-10 Profile
• • Splinter Cell
  • Battlefield Bad Company 2 Fix
• • Battlefield Bad Company 2 Fix - horizontal lines are no longer observed when running an ATI CrossFireX configuration!
  • Battlefield Bad Company 2 Fix - flickering and black square corruption is no longer observed when running on single card ATI Radeon products.
  • Forcing on Anti-Aliasing through ATI Catalyst Control Center is now supported in the following titles: Supreme Commander 2, Dirt2, Avatar and Battlefield Bad Company2 (single GPU configurations)
  • StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty beta on ATI Radeon™ 5800 products running in an ATI CrossFireX configurations: moving units near the edge of a cliff no longer causes them to fall because the height field is corrupted
• • Heaven – Crossfire profile
  • Dark Void – Crossfire profile
  • Singularity – Crossfire profile
  • Unigine Heaven Demo – Crossfire profile
  • Just Cause 2 - Single GPU and Crossfire profile
  • Battlefield Bad Company 2 - Crossfire profile
  • AvP - Single GPU and Crossfire profile

[Danny Nissan]

Thanks alot Caveman-Jim! This answered a few of my questions regarding these profile apps!

[demo]

[steelmartin]

(You're thinking too hard about all this)

Thank you, this was exactly what I thought was needed to be done. AMD should hire you!! Or have your babies...

[maap]

Thanks for the info

[Thr0tt]

Is the profile update accumulate or do I need to install them all for all the profiles ?

[Lupine]

Is the profile update accumulate or do I need to install them all for all the profiles ?

From the FAQ:

Older versions of Application Profiles don't need to be installed, just those newer than the driver release - for example, if you install Cat 10.3, you don't need the 10.2 Profile Update.

[cromwell]

I must be slow (I am), but I'm not quite understanding if the profiles apply to a single card, single screen computer setup. I read Terry's explanation, and though CrossfireX and Eyefinity were prominent throughout (along with Mobiltiy) there was no mention of, well, regular type setups. (Otherwise known as the cheap ones).

So, does installing the profiles make a difference in a single card/screen setup?

[caveman-jim]

I must be slow (I am), but I'm not quite understanding if the profiles apply to a single card, single screen computer setup. I read Terry's explanation, and though CrossfireX and Eyefinity were prominent throughout (along with Mobiltiy) there was no mention of, well, regular type setups. (Otherwise known as the cheap ones).

So, does installing the profiles make a difference in a single card/screen setup?

Yes.

[ALANi009]

Catalyst Application Profiles - Installation question.

Hi there, thanks alot for that work but have a small question.

At the end of installation a black dos window appears and before i press finish the computer automatically reboots, after the reboot i open Catalyst Control Panel and can't find any profile added on profiles list is that normal and if is not what i can do to fix it ?

I am using last Control Panel and drivers 10.3, on computer also running NOD32 Antivirus, Ad-Aware, Spybot-SD.

Thanks!

[kn00tcn]

5th bullet, these are not profiles in the sense of CCC settings, so you're not gonna see any change in CCC's settings profiles

also, the changelogs arent full info, red orchestra (finally) got a CF profile in the march19 installer

[caveman-jim]

Hi there, thanks alot for that work but have a small question.

At the end of installation a black dos window appears and before i press finish the computer automatically reboots, after the reboot i open Catalyst Control Panel and can't find any profile added on profiles list is that normal and if is not what i can do to fix it ?

I am using last Control Panel and drivers 10.3, on computer also running NOD32 Antivirus, Ad-Aware, Spybot-SD.

Thanks!

These are driver profiles, not user profiles.

[ALANi009]

These are driver profiles, not user profiles.

I got it now thanks

[Vexx]

Are profiles used only when Catalyst AI is enabled?

[spyre]

Yes

[Vexx]

Yes

Ok. Thank you.

[noko]

I've noticed that ATI's profiles are piling up on Add/Remove programs. I have three listed now, if I don't remove them I can see over a period of time that they will just grow. Is there any problem in removing them and just applying the most recent profile?

[caveman-jim]

I've noticed that ATI's profiles are piling up on Add/Remove programs. I have three listed now, if I don't remove them I can see over a period of time that they will just grow. Is there any problem in removing them and just applying the most recent profile?

That's fine:

• I have an older Application Profile update, what should I do?
  It can be left installed without any problems.
  
  
• I don't like having things installed unnecessarily. How do I keep my system 'clean'?
  You can uninstall Application Profiles that apply to older Catalyst driver releases using Add/Remove Programs.

[ProfoundBuzz]

Okay, for those kids who ducked outside for a smoke while teacher was talking, are new profiles cumulative and inclusive (newer profiles contain all the fixes from prior profiles) or are older profile 'fixes' included with each driver new release?

For example are all the profiles from the AMD Catalyst Application Profile - 10.3 - Released 3/19/2010 already included in the official/preview 10.4 releases etc, or do they still need to be installed separately if the fix required affects you?

[caveman-jim]

Okay, for those kids who ducked outside for a smoke while teacher was talking, are new profiles cumulative and inclusive (newer profiles contain all the fixes from prior profiles) or are older profile 'fixes' included with each driver new release?

The fixes in the profiles get rolled into the next driver.

For example are all the profiles from the AMD Catalyst Application Profile - 10.3 - Released 3/19/2010 already included in the official/preview 10.4 releases etc, or do they still need to be installed separately if the fix required affects you?

You only need updates that are newer than your drivers. So right now you can use 10.4 with the April 7 10.4 preview drivers. But you don't need the march 19th app update.

[ProfoundBuzz]

Thanks for the clarification Jim

[caveman-jim]

You're welcome. Thanks for the question, I've updated the FAQ to be clearer.

[Shocky]

When will we see a profile update for Settlers 7?

[caveman-jim]

It's being worked on, no ETA at this time.

[turtlesdove3]

I've noticed that ATI's profiles are piling up on Add/Remove programs. I have three listed now, if I don't remove them I can see over a period of time that they will just grow. Is there any problem in removing them and just applying the most recent profile?

I do the same thing but I'm relieved to know that it's ok to do that. I hope it's running smoothly.

[narciso]

Where are the release notes for 10.5 profiles, can't find them anywhere.

[caveman-jim]

I can't either, AMD didn't notify us (or CatalystMaker) that the 10.5 profiles were posted. They had fixes for "battlefield 2 and splinter cell stuff" which were included in 10.5 WHQL and Hotfix.

[Treeckcold57]

There's a newer 10.5 profile at AMD.game site...should I install that or just download from R3D's front page which is has 10.4? I have 10.5 driver right now.

[caveman-jim]

There's a newer 10.5 profile at AMD.game site...should I install that or just download from R3D's front page which is has 10.4? I have 10.5 driver right now.

They had fixes for "battlefield 2 and splinter cell stuff" which were included in 10.5 WHQL and Hotfix.

You don't need any profile updates if you are running 10.5

[Treeckcold57]

You don't need any profile updates if you are running 10.5

Ahh...okay look like i'm confused right now. But thanks, anyway.

[Dwarden]

yet again would be wise to update the page with 10.6 profiles ...

[caveman-jim]

10.6 is the same as 10.5

[Dwarden]

10.6 is the same as 10.5

thx but the build numbers differ , wasn't checking the content of profiles ...

[caveman-jim]

ok.... it has the same fixes in them, so....

[Lupine]

June 18 Catalyst Application Profile released. Want it? Get it here!

http://www.rage3d.com/xmp/

[Dwarden]

June 18 Catalyst Application Profile released. Want it? Get it here!

http://www.rage3d.com/xmp/

thanks

[kn00tcn]

any real reason rage keeps getting exclusives? not everyone looks at terry's twitter or is on rage

EDIT: or at least ones that last more than a couple days?

[Guest]

June 18 Catalyst Application Profile released. Want it? Get it here!

http://www.rage3d.com/xmp/

Thx



5oniX

[starnuto]

profiles - Crossfire....

Hi Guys,

fantastic this topic.
I've faced problems while playing various games with my HD4870 Crossfire.
With 10_6 Profiles I've found some vantages, but my problem remains Crysis....does something exist to make Crysis running in a proper way???
On other games the same problem...but it seems that with these profiles to load some goal has been reached...
thank you!

[caveman-jim]

any real reason rage keeps getting exclusives? not everyone looks at terry's twitter or is on rage

EDIT: or at least ones that last more than a couple days?

Because we're awesome.