Official CoD Thread.

[dreamz]

Haha

@Mythril


yes, they should


OVER 13000!!!!!! VIEWS 400 REPLYS AND NO STATEMENT FROM ATI????


HMM, I THOUGHT ATI HEAR HERE CUSTOMERS

[lowdog]

Originally posted by easyrider
Anyone ried setting visuals in the game to HIGH instead of EXTRA? that fixed it for me.

That was the only thing that fixed it for me as well. Turning fast writes off did nothing at all, the game would crash to desk top within minutes.

[The Woz]

Originally posted by phree
Would I be in the wrong by asking for someone to post the OGL file from the cat 3.7's?

At driverheaven CM hinted at a temp fix that involved this method.

I asked about this as well. Somebody was kind enough to send me the 3.5 version, and it works better, but I'm still crashing every 10 or 15 minutes on my AIW 9800 Pro. Man, this is the most fun I've had with a game in a LONG time. Imagine if it was crash-free?

If somebody wants to send me the 3.7 atioglxx.dll, I'd appreciate it very much. (I don't have an older than 3.8 one on my system if anyone was going to tell me to get it from there.) Thanks!

[email protected]OSPAM

[Supercromp]

my take
3.9's fresh install
athlon xp 2.6ghz
abit nf7
512 MB ram
BBA 9800 np flashed to pro 128MB
audigy soundcard
Fresh install xp all newest drivers

my problem was stuttering ingame, a millesecond pause every now and then. going from "max" or whatever textures to "high" fixes it. i did say fux that i got a 9800 pro and played with max texures AND stuttering, seemed to go away after the 2nd level "dawnville".

The car level froze for me right at the begining, i turned off fastwrites and it now is fine.

so basically i tihnk that stuttering is caused by too much or bad texture loading, and car freezing is all fastwrites.

oh and i think that 3.7 and less opengl drivers are fixing some problems, at least the stuttering, because it has the "16bit textures bug", which pretty much halves memory and/or bandwidth needs. and dont listen to themonkeyboyz he likes attention.

cromp

[demalion]

To add to the topic, I finally got a crash in COD...two actually. I think the details confirm some sort of AGP transfer issue, which might indicate that solutions related to reducing the stress on that should be applied collectively by people experiencing problems. It might also be possible that VPU recover is either stressful on AGP transfer for some duration, or increases the fragility somehow...not sure without an understanding of exactly how it implements its function.

Where it happened:

It finally happened inside the dam, after blowing up the guns on top, and heading inside. I cleared the hallways/rooms leading to the room overlooking the hydro-generators, and was in a firefight switching between the window and the two stairs leading out to the metal gratings on either side of the generator room.

What happened:

First, I was running Catalyst 3.8, using fraps (which I had actually run several times before on Cat 3.8 without problems, including the car ride), and had taken a lot of screen shots. After finishing off all the enemy soldiers I could see, and about 2 seconds (at most) after a screen shot, I started to head down the stairs to the right grating. The screen froze, and turned garbled...I think for the HUD details alone, and my computer locked up. I waited for a VPU recovery message, but nothing happened. However, my hard disk light seemed to be active, but I don't know if that was under the control of a functioning program.

Second time, I was running Catalyst 3.9, no fraps. I pressed F5 to Quick Save, at almost the exact same spot and under the same circumstance. The monitor reported a lost signal and the computer completely froze...no HD access, hard reset necessary. Since a screenshot is saved for Quick Saves, I think this is related. Or, I should say "attempted to be saved", as my Quick Save jpg I just looked at is blank. Interesting theory: No screenshot jpgs for Autosaves that I can see, but if the game still runs its screen capture code for some odd reason, this would indicate a possible common causality for the "random" crashes, if they actually occur at Autosave points.

...

A list of some things that relate to this: AGP voltage, AGP/PCI bus overclock, AGP speed (4x/8x, etc), Fastwrites, motherboard drivers, FSB speed (i.e., overclocking, even if AGP/PCI bus speed isn't changed) and anything that might increase demands on the Northbridge significantly.

A list of factors that seem likely to increase (to some degree) stress on (or the fragility of) this theoretical weak point: VPU recover being on, anything that increases card RAM usage such that AGP texturing is used (triple buffering, increased resolution, higher in game texture settings,deactivating texture compression, higher control panel texture detail, FSAA, higher resolution), Truform being used (it seems CoD supports it), Higher geometry detail.

Some theoretical things that might have an impact, which I think are determined by whether, and how, CoD reacts to the hardware setup: AGP aperture size, having a faster system and having plenty of RAM so that CoD is free to stress AGP transfer more, having a more advanced graphics card for the same reason. Also, intense network bandwidth might have an impact on some systems. Finally, there seems a possibility that SmartShaders might cause stress on AGP usage, by an extra buffer or some other interaction, but there also seems a clear possibility that they are not significantly stressful at all (actually, I think the latter is more likely at the moment). I'd just point out that you should turn it off just to simplify troubleshooting, though.

..

From these, I think people should try a check list of addressing this from the perspective of reducing AGP bus "stress" as much as possible (and necessary), starting from the least performance degrading system settings, and moving on first to the most game specific corrections (if CoD is the only game giving problems). Also, keeping an eye out to see if crashes happen at Autosave checkpoints, as per my screenshot theory (maybe CoD's screenshot system might actually be buggy or stress something unusually).

Here is my proposed list, to be applied cummulatively (i.e., when you try a new one, keep the prior ones you tried set as well). I'll try to stick to safe things, and stay away from things like AGP voltage, which would require a list of cautions, and the more theoretical or complicated things, like AGP aperture size fiddling, that might easily cause new problems (though if you're familiar with adjusting such things, you might give it a try if you think I make sense when mentioning them):

• Update your motherboard chipset drivers/.INF files to the latest ones intended for your OS
• Turn off VPU recover
• Turn off Fastwrites
• Lower AGP speed
• Remove system (CPU/RAM/FSB/etc) Overclock
• Remove Graphics card Overclock
• Turn off Truform (actually, I'd guess this shouldn't matter for the 8500, but I don't know if any 8500 users have reason to follow this list)
• Lower in game settings according to graphics card RAM and performance...(Screen Resolution, Texture details, compressed textures).
• Lower control panel settings according to graphics card RAM and performance (for example...turn off triple buffering for OpenGL, turn off "Anti-Aliasing").
• Turn down Model detail (in game)...maybe the corpse stay setting too

I think finding a balance of moving down a list like this, and finding the highest setting for the step that solves your problem, is a way to enjoy the game most effectively. Alternatively, using the CoD "safe mode" should minimize the in game stress in one step (if CoD is the only problem game), and you could work backwards from that minimum after trying at least the first 3 steps.

...

Just my thoughts after giving this some thought...hopefully, not too far-fetched, and hopefully helpful as a possible solution roadmap.

[br00dy2000]

Fix for Corrupt & Flickering Water Textures on R8500

This may work for other cards with this particular problem

This happens using Cat 3.8 & 3.9 and occurs regardless of 3D settings in the ATI control panel.

The only way I found to fix it was to start the game in Safe mode which resets the Graphics/Performance options to low and if you goto a level with water the problem should be fixed.
You can then adjust the Graphics/Performance to suit your PC.
One thing I have found is when you adjust the graphics settings you must set them all at the same time then hit apply. If you go back and change any graphics settings after, the problem reoccurs and you need to redo the process again.

A strange thing I did notice after some testing was that changing the Character Texture settings in the graphics options increased/decreased texture quality for water.

Cheers

br00dy

[DOTC2003]

Yeah, mine was constantly locking up in the car ride map. Turning off fastwrites fixed the issue. The only "problems" i have now are, the 16bit textures when you die or get shocked, and...has anyone noticed how choppy it is when you use the zoom or aim function on the weapons? It happens when you lean to left or right also, i can almost count the frames.

Radeon 9700pro Omega 3.9's
Pentium 4 3.26ghz
512mb Ram
Audigy 2 EAX3 enabled, latest drivers

EDIT: Spoke to soon, i turned the graphic quality up a notch under openGL...and well the 16bit texture issue is gone...weird

[phree]

Yeah but I can't turn off fastwrites. If I do, Then my right click menus and such act up.

[enkur]

again I tried that truform setting in cfg file and it didnt fix the problem.

Only turning off fastwrites in Smartgart tab fixed the issue.
What does this setting do anyway?

[bakunin]

Originally posted by compneo
O.K PEOPLE PLEASE READ THIS AND DO IT!!! IT WILL SOLVE EVERYONE'S PROBLEMS...PERIOD!!! DO IT NOW!!! JUST FRIGGIN' DO IT!!! YOUR WELCOME!!!

1.GO TO YOUR CALL OF DUTY CONFIG FILE (CALL OF DUTY/MAIN/CFG)

2.FIND THESE SETTINGS AND CHANGE THE VALUES TO THE ONES BELOW:

seta r_ati_fsaa_samples "16"
seta r_ati_truform_tess "4"
seta r_skip_auto_config "1"

REMEMBER TO SAVE THE CHANGES

3.GO TO YOUR ATI CONTROL PANEL AND SET THE OPEN GL TO THE FOLLOWING:


1.FASTWRITES-ENABLED
2.FSAA- 16X
3.TRUFORM-APPLICATION PREFERENCE

NOW GO PLAY COD WITHOUT CRASHES OR LOCKUPS!!!

..big rubbish,you better set seta r_ati_truform_tess "0" on a R3XX,cause there is no hardware truform on these cards..
seta r_ati_fsaa_samples "16"- very funny.

[MaTT01]

Originally posted by DOTC2003
Yeah, mine was constantly locking up in the car ride map. Turning off fastwrites fixed the issue. The only "problems" i have now are, the 16bit textures when you die or get shocked, and...has anyone noticed how choppy it is when you use the zoom or aim function on the weapons? It happens when you lean to left or right also, i can almost count the frames.

Radeon 9700pro Omega 3.9's
Pentium 4 3.26ghz
512mb Ram
Audigy 2 EAX3 enabled, latest drivers

EDIT: Spoke to soon, i turned the graphic quality up a notch under openGL...and well the 16bit texture issue is gone...weird

Are those 16bit textures I'm seeing? To me they look like 8bit It's also happening when I get shell-shocked from a mortar or tank. Very ugly.

Yes, movement is real choppy for me when I lean or actually move around in the prone position. This is only happening with the 3.9 drivers.

9700 Pro w/ FW disabled @ 8X AGP
Cat 3.9 on XP

[RedBier]

And what is important imho is

maxfps 125

in the config.cfg file in the main dir

This solved the last stuttering bugs I had,
and Fastwrite of, all other settings didn't affect anything here.

RedBier

[t-readyroc]

turning off fastwrites seems to have worked for me. i was able to progress thru the next few levels w/no problems thus far.

[demalion]

Originally posted by phree
Yeah but I can't turn off fastwrites. If I do, Then my right click menus and such act up.

Try some of the other items in my list, and see if they help? Come to think of it, I should add the "Update motherboard drivers" step as the very first thing.

[Gar]

played all the way thru - combo 3.8 and 3.9
1280/1024 4XFSAA - max AF-
not one crash - smooth as silt

[phree]

I'll just wait for the official fix that ATI is currently working on. I've been on five or six forums and all these different settings don't work for me.

And all my stuff is up to date eg: bios'/drivers. I don't have probs with any other games. I'm not in that big of a hurry anyway

[lowdog]

I have found that to run this game at 1280x1024 with texture settings set at extra I have to run it using the default texture level....if I set it to 32bit textures in the game it will enivetiably crash to a washed out desktop.

This is with a 256meg 9800Pro, turning off fast writes did nothing to stop the crashing. When you die I don't think it drops to 16bit textures but more like 8bit.

It runs fine at the default texture level but if I set it to 32bit the sky looks much better but alas it will crash to that bright/washed out desktop sooner or later.

I'v got a feeling that it is a driver/OGL issue and if uyou use a program like rage3d or redline you can see that in the OGL settings the default setting for the drivers is to force the radeon to convert 32bit textures to 16bit????.....why the hell would that be the case???

[xxbiker]

COD FIX for monitor

I fixed the "monitor loss signal"in cod by turning off v sync in open gl tab.i turned aa off too but i dont think thats the problem.I think it.s a new bug in the driver.
xxbiker

[demalion]

My understanding is that the in-game "Default" textures are compressed textures (if not disabled elsewhere). I should have made that clearer when I talked about in-game settings.

[NWR_Midnight]

Originally posted by aggybong
Wait, why would you blame Creative? It's the Catalyst 3.8 drivers, nothing more.

If you take a trip over to the Call of Duty Forums, you will find that both sides of the fence are having problems with these lockups. (NVidia and ATI based systems). So I would have to concure that it could very well be sound driver related, or just plain bad code in COD.

Daniel

[Hozmoney]

I think it might be a sound issue as well. After one crash on the dam I had an error report on the screen that said this:

WARNING: loaded sound file 'sound/weapons/impact/Iÿpact_Meÿal_A02.ÿav' couldn't be read
----- CL_Shutdown -----
RE_Shutdown( 1 )
Shutting down OpenGL subsystem
...wglMakeCurrent( NULL, NULL ): success
...deleting GL context: success
...releasing DC: success
...destroying window
...resetting display
...shutting down QGL
...unloading OpenGL DLL
-----------------------
Hunk_Clear: reset the hunk ok
1 sound file(s) are missing or in a bad format

[Zeatrix]

My 2 cents...

... I know a lot of people complain when people post "I don't have a problem". But I'll do it anyway, for the sake of letting you guys what kind of hardware/software it doesn't crash on...

[lowdog]

Updated from the cat 3.5's to the 3.7's and can now run 32bit textures and 'extra" settings without crashes.

Only thing with the 3.7's is it has the multiple monitor listing bug in device manager.

[ArchEvIlAngel]

I just had the cod burnsville demo crash on me for the first time, Ive completeded it a dozen times, but it crashed randomly when I was team killing my sqad for fun, it was odd cuz video just went out and the computer wouldnt respond -omega 3.9

[compneo]

I've found that if I say an ATI mantra, while standing on my head, and twiddling my toes....sometimes it won't crash on me. However if this doesn't work, diabling fastwrites has helped out too, but not as much.

[evilchickenking]

i killed smartgart and all my problems went away.

[dreamz]

Hi...

Hmm, a Hot fix fot AIW user but not for ATI R. 9700 pro etc. users...


P.S: I dont like the new layout from the site, it looks very cheap.. the old one looks much better

[Githss]

True I agree with you on that one but the new design does offer many benefits over the old one. I didn't like it at first but it is growing on me very fast.

[kmolazz]

I started playing it last night, for about an hour and didn't have any problems. Using 2AA and 4AFp, started with detail in extra but had to put it in high due to fps. Is working great so far. It did seem to have some weird sounds, but i'm not sure... could be tired :\




XP1800+
Soltek FRN2-RL, 1.6d bios, nforce 3.13 without SW
Connect3d 9500 128MB, Cat3.9, OC to 300/300
SB Audigy, with A2 drivers
512MB DDR266, cl2
WinXP Pro, SP1, DX9b

[dmullen]

Hope I'm not jumping the gun here but I installed the new Omega 3.9 drivers and I am playing the single player without any lockups or reboots. I'm going on 2 hours now with nothing turned off & everything set to "Extra" and having a blast!

Radeon 9800 Pro 128MB
Audigy 2
P4 3.2GHz
1 GB Mushkin PC3500 Level II
Abit IC7-G
2 WD 10k rpm Raptors RAID 0
Plextor Premium
Plextor PX-708A
Windows XP Pro
Logitech MX-700

Never mind...the reboots are back.

[NWR_Midnight]

Originally posted by mapel110
it works with older drivers. so it's not the game developer, who has made the fault.

You mean it works with drivers that have bugs in them, point being 3.7 cats that have the 16bit bug.. Now that the bug is not present, the game locksup. So please tell me who is at fault? They coded a game to work with the bugs. Great! I guess ATI just needs to put the bugs that everyone complained about back in their drivers so COD will work with the poor code on COD.


Daniel

[NWR_Midnight]

Originally posted by tazman1337
I'm glad to see the people coming out and getting the courage to post and agree that there are problems with the drivers and this game. Thanks for the backup folks, I'm not a bad person, just get nasty when I know what I'm fighting for is right.

I'm sure many people don't want to admit to a problem here for fear of being flamed. Hrmm suspicously sound like discrimination imo. Anyways, I hear ya...keep sending ATI feedbacks and we'll get ATI to fix it hopefully!

Okay, please explain to me, why some people with ATI are having no problems, and some people with NVidia are having no problems, but many people with both are having the same problems? Just because the game runs fine with your Nvidia card doesn't mean it is an ATI driver problem.

When both sides of the fence are having the same problems, then one must look towards the game developer. IF only ATI cards were having problems then yes we could say it is driver related, but it isnt' only ATI.

Just consider yourself lucky that your Nvidia runs the game, just like some ATI owners are feeling luck they can run the game.

Have a nice day.

Daniel

[fasedw]

Originally posted by SLI_Fallen
Congratulations. I'm glad you got through the game. But you are an exception. Many MANY people, particularly with ATI, but not limited to, are cashing hard at exactly the same place, even in safe mode or after a fresh OS install!! 3.7's and 3.8's are effected. If somehow you can get past the first 10 seconds of the 1st driving mission, then save, your ok past that. So It does not look like a driver issue per-se. It's a game bug. (yes, full game)

Yeap thats what happen to me, I just started the driving mission in safe mode ran for a little saved, turn on everything to max again no problem since.

[kmolazz]

Well, i spoke too soon... now i get random reboots, no very often though. It started only when i began playing with the british...

[Factor X]

Is this cross-platform (video subsytem) bug-mess going to ring the death knell for PC games? I'm sure it's so much easier to code and verify for a unified platform than for us PC users. Argh.

Funny, it only crashes when I die.

FX

[Achilles97]

I reformatted and installed WinXP.

Installed nForce 3.13 mobo drivers and CAT 3.7

The game ran GREAT for 2 hours, not a single crash.

24 hours later....

I start the game, 15 seconds later it crashed. Now it won't run longer than 10 seconds. I rebooted and tried it at least 10 times and it would crash after 5-10 seconds, I wouldn't even move my guy. I played through that map in Safe Mode (blow up the artillery), but the next map crashed every 3-5 minutes.

I don't know what happened, why it all of a sudden crashed all over the place.

Maybe it's my motherboard. I have an Epox 8RDA+ nForce2 mobo. Anyone have any problems with this?

[Wedge_manaic]

Not sure if CoD creators or ATI Cat makers monitor this thread, but I want to say that even though the demo runs fine on my machine, I am not buying this game until many of the problems are sorted out - that is, that the majority of the guys in this thread can say "cool, I can now play through the entire game now".

Of course, there will be bugs regardless, but I am seeing too many posts saying that their $50 game cannot be played for a significant length of time without crashes, lockups, problems, etc.

I'm not saying whose to blame because, frankly, I don't care, and I beleive both companies must work together to solve the problems. The card makers as well as the game-creators have something at stake in this. So, in everybody's best interest, it's best for us to not criticize one or the other, but hope that the powers that be are speaking to each other about the complex issues that are involved -- and I mean right now. Too many guys have spent $50 on this game, thinking they would have something that is playable.

Please sort it out. Otherwise, I'm not even going to buy it, because it seems like a hit or miss gamble that I'm not going to take. I'll urge my friends to do the same, pointing them to this thread.

[t-readyroc]

well said.

[NWR_Midnight]

Re: I'd like to know this as well

Originally posted by loafer87gt
I posted a couple of a threads in the PC gaming section inquiring as to how to enable the shadows but nobody replied

I think character shadows would add a lot to this already great game.

look under performance in the game settings

Daniel

[fret]

Using Cat3.9 with 9800 pro ... was having the same crashes everywhere.. audio looping.. video freezing.. having to reboot etc. etc... with both demos and retail.

Tried many of the suggestions to no avail.

But once I lowered the DeadBody count(i think thats what the setting was) to tiny, the game has run solid without any crashes(all other option at max)... except for one glitch.. in the stalingrad level there was a lot of tearing with world texture setting at extra.. lowered it to high and all is well.