Official AMD Radeon RX 7000 Series (RDNA 3) Thread

[bill dennison]

Billy look at it this way. The consoles are not AMD products. They only make the SoC. Can you imagine either M$ or $ony accepting two variants of their consoles where one might be different than the other? They've paid AMD for only one console SoC and that is all they want. AMD is minuscule compared to those two behemoths so really do you think that's going to happen?

you are so full of AMD hate of late

then they get no more than the contract says and they are over that now i think
they want extra SOC's because they and everyone underestimated demand

sorry LordHawkwind says no



and who they going to go to Intel & raja

NVidia the game consoles would be 1500 bucks

[pax]

you are so full of AMD hate of late

then they get no more than the contract says and they are over that now i think
they want extra SOC's because they and everyone underestimated demand

sorry LordHawkwind says no



and who they going to go to Intel & raja

NVidia the game consoles would be 1500 bucks

Wit this kind of a report I cant see AMD not doing it for its gpus:

https://www.techpowerup.com/278073/d...top-and-mobile

AMD's CPU offerings are generally considered to best Intel's competition, especially since the company's Zen 3, Ryzen-5000 series of CPUs launched to great critical and customer acclaim. However, silicon performance can only get you so far - one other issue impacting market penetration is availability of said processors. As AMD fights for constrained wafer supply from TSMC - in no small part due to their focusing of their entire portfolio on the company's highly-sought 7 nm process - users worldwide are generally seeing insufficient stocks of AMD silicon to satisfy their needs. And as such, it seems that at least some users are going with Intel solutions, due to their higher availability in the market.

According to a report from Mercury Research, AMD's constrained chip supply has led the company to a market share loss QoQ. AMD's desktop penetration fell from 20.1% to 19.3% in a single quarter, and its mobile market share saw a similar decrease, going from a 20.1% share down to 19.1%.

If only to free up cpu production they need to move some gpus to samsung. Oddly enough amd cpus are even harder to come by and even more overpriced than gpu's up here.

[bill dennison]

Wit this kind of a report I cant see AMD not doing it for its gpus:

https://www.techpowerup.com/278073/d...top-and-mobile




If only to free up cpu production they need to move some gpus to samsung. Oddly enough amd cpus are even harder to come by and even more overpriced than gpu's up here.

and only moving the game consoles will free up enough .

by stock they haven't been making that many of any GPU's to free up anything for CPU's

they made game consoles and some CPU's for months and were supposed switch over to GPU's from game consoles by now i don't think they have much

2 the game consoles would be fine on Samsung being much lower watts a 6800 xt or 6900 xt wouldn't
it would just make them match NV's wattage or higher and kill them

if they were both high wattage Samsung chips i would go with NV or none

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PS5 Sells Over 4 Million Units Since Launch & Shows No Signs Of Stopping

https://screenrant.com/ps5-sales-4-m...wn%20in%202021.


they can't keep up with these numbers from TSMC .
they could pump every tsmc wafer they have into game consoles and not keep up

[Gandalfthewhite]

so that is the interesting thing with AMD working with samsung on the mobile gpu it gave them the opportunity to get experience designing for their fab and build a relationship with them.

[LordHawkwind]

you are so full of AMD hate of late

then they get no more than the contract says and they are over that now i think
they want extra SOC's because they and everyone underestimated demand

sorry LordHawkwind says no

and who they going to go to Intel & raja

NVidia the game consoles would be 1500 bucks

Bill this has nothing to do with AMD hate. I personally own a Zen 2 3800X, my son has my old 5700XT and I also own his old RX580. So I have three times more AMD products than Nvidia. The one thing I'm disappointed with is their total lack of supply of products I wanted to buy after launch day.

This is about common business sense. Acroig and Nascar24 have told you the same but you don't want to listen. Your post comes across as a rant rather than a detailed analysis because it lacks any kind of subjective information.

Regarding your comment about the console pricing if it was Nvidia, AMD don't set the price M$ and $ony do and by all accounts they are losing money on each console sale. What you need to grasp is the consoles are not AMD products and they've signed legally binding contracts to provide a specific SoC. Come on it's not difficult really.

[bill dennison]

Bill this has nothing to do with AMD hate. I personally own a Zen 2 3800X, my son has my old 5700XT and I also own his old RX580. So I have three times more AMD products than Nvidia. The one thing I'm disappointed with is their total lack of supply of products I wanted to buy after launch day.

This is about common business sense. Acroig and Nascar24 have told you the same but you don't want to listen. Your post comes across as a rant rather than a detailed analysis because it lacks any kind of subjective information.

Regarding your comment about the console pricing if it was Nvidia, AMD don't set the price M$ and $ony do and by all accounts they are losing money on each console sale. What you need to grasp is the consoles are not AMD products and they've signed legally binding contracts to provide a specific SoC. Come on it's not difficult really.

AMD is not losing money on new console SOC's .

Sony and M$ maybe but AMD is not if i remember right i saw that they jacked up prices on the new console SOC's over last gen PS4 and XBOX

you are saying lisa su is a idiot and has no " common business sense " and having a going out of business sale for Sony and M$
you are saying she is losing money on new console SOC's and not being able to make anything else is only a good way to go out of business


and she knows Sony and M$ can't or won't go to NV or Intel 14+++++++++++++ at this point


......
i have been in business since 1985 as a AC contractor and i tell customers no all the time

i am sure lisa su can tell Sony and M$ no also

[LordHawkwind]

AMD is not losing money on new console SOC's .

Sony and M$ maybe but AMD is not if i remember right i saw that they jacked up prices on the new console SOC's over last gen PS4 and XBOX

you are saying lisa su is a idiot and has no " common business sense " and having a going out of business sale for Sony and M$
you are saying she is losing money on new console SOC's and not being able to make anything else is only a good way to go out of business

and she knows Sony and M$ can't or won't go to NV or Intel 14+++++++++++++ at this point

i have been in business since 1985 as a AC contractor and i tell customers no all the time

i am sure lisa su can tell Sony and M$ no also

Bill I never said AMD make a loss on SoC sales. I said M$ and $ony make a loss on each console sold. Big difference.

https://www.techspot.com/news/88508-...station-5.html

You own your own business so you can do what you want. Lisa Su is an employee employed by shareholders and the companies board to whom she has to justify her business decisions. If they don't like her decisions they can sack her.

Bill it's a massive difference being a one man owner of your own private company and being a CEO of a publicly traded company. Why can't you grasp this simple concept? So Bill you are comparing your business decisions to the same as Lisa Su. I think she earns a bit more than you

https://www.businessinsider.com/amds...20-5?r=US&IR=T

I doubt she says no to her biggest customers. No offence just pointing out reality.

[bill dennison]

Bill I never said AMD make a loss on SoC sales. I said M$ and $ony make a loss on each console sold. Big difference.

https://www.techspot.com/news/88508-...station-5.html

You own your own business so you can do what you want. Lisa Su is an employee employed by shareholders and the companies board to whom she has to justify her business decisions. If they don't like her decisions they can sack her.

Bill it's a massive difference being a one man owner of your own private company and being a CEO of a publicly traded company. Why can't you grasp this simple concept? So Bill you are comparing your business decisions to the same as Lisa Su. I think she earns a bit more than you

https://www.businessinsider.com/amds...20-5?r=US&IR=T

I doubt she says no to her biggest customers. No offence just pointing out reality.

and those AMD shareholders don't care how many game consoles Sony and M$ sell

they care more about AMD's market share as that drives AMD's shock up

and they are not AMD's biggest customers that would be the pro and server market that they won't short for game consoles

[LordHawkwind]

and those AMD shareholders don't care how many game consoles Sony and M$ sell

they care more about AMD's market share as that drives AMD's stock up

and they are not AMD's biggest customers that would be the pro and server market that they won't short for game consoles

Bill shareholders don't care about market share, they care about profit margins and profits. Look at Apple they have 20% market share but their profit margins are huge compared to Android manufacturers.

M$ and $ony pay upfront for console SoC orders whereas AMD has to sell CPU/GPU's to AIB's or direct if they can make enough of them. Which market would you fancy?

The Pro and server markets are biggest margin possibly but not biggest sales. They upgrade on a much slower rate than consumers so volumes are much less and easier to manage.

[SuperGeil]

I'm even sure why it really matters or how this pretrains to RDNA 3? Even if it was fabed at Samsung, who cares? The power hugry Nvidia cards are not using up more power because of Samsung, it's because GDDR6x is super power hugry. If anything, AMD (aka the fastest growing tech company) spreading skus to other plants like Samsung is bad for Nvidia.

With Samsung building a monster 3nm plant in Texas, and TSMC building one in Arizona... I think things will be ok and everyone is going to be happy sooner or later....

[bill dennison]

AMD Shipped Almost 1 Million Ryzen 5000 CPUs in Q4, Research Firm Estimates

https://www.pcmag.com/news/amd-shipp...firm-estimates

PlayStation 5 Sales Reached 4.5 Million in 2020, Sony Reports 20 Percent Increase in Profits

https://gadgets.ndtv.com/games/news/...20in%20Profits

xbox series x/s total sales

3.5 million (est.) as of December 31, 2020

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_S...X_and_Series_S


so not at a loss

and that's a lot of wafers
and more CPU's than i thought

[LordHawkwind]

Bill, Mercury Research ESTIMATES the total number of Zen 3 sales. They don't have a clue as AMD is saying nothing so take with massive pinch of salt. Here's more Mercury research which seems contradictory.

https://www.extremetech.com/computin...desktop-mobile

Again take with big dose of salt.

Do you not read the articles you post? This is from the one about PS4 sales..."It (Sony) is also incurring losses due to the strategic pricing of the PS5 that is said to be priced lower than its manufacturing cost." Is that not a definition of selling at a loss?

[LordHawkwind]

A bit more proof.

https://www.techpowerup.com/278069/s...-million-units

[Gandalfthewhite]

selling consoles at a loss is a meh move they dont care. it is about software sales which will drive profits. And its not a loss for AMD it is a loss for Sony and or MS.

[LordHawkwind]

selling consoles at a loss is a meh move they dont care. it is about software sales which will drive profits. And its not a loss for AMD it is a loss for Sony and or MS.

Exactly Gandalfthewhite but how do we explain it to Bill so he understands? Seems a losing battle ATM

[EYE4LYFE]

Samsung Develops Industry’s First High Bandwidth Memory with AI Processing Power

Samsung Electronics, the world leader in advanced memory technology, today announced that it has developed the industry’s first High Bandwidth Memory (HBM) integrated with artificial intelligence (AI) processing power — the HBM-PIM. The new processing-in-memory (PIM) architecture brings powerful AI computing capabilities inside high-performance memory...

Most of today’s computing systems are based on the von Neumann architecture, which uses separate processor and memory units to carry out millions of intricate data processing tasks. This sequential processing approach requires data to constantly move back and forth, resulting in a system-slowing bottleneck especially when handling ever-increasing volumes of data.

Instead, the HBM-PIM brings processing power directly to where the data is stored by placing a DRAM-optimized AI engine inside each memory bank — a storage sub-unit — enabling parallel processing and minimizing data movement. When applied to Samsung’s existing HBM2 Aquabolt solution, the new architecture is able to deliver over twice the system performance while reducing energy consumption by more than 70%. The HBM-PIM also does not require any hardware or software changes, allowing faster integration into existing systems.



SamsungNewsroom
Tom'sHardware

Destined for large-scale processing in data centers, high performance computing (HPC) systems and AI-enabled mobile applications for now, but should eventually make its way into GPUs.

This could get interesting. RDNA 3 bound?

[bill dennison]

Samsung Develops Industry’s First High Bandwidth Memory with AI Processing Power

Samsung Electronics, the world leader in advanced memory technology, today announced that it has developed the industry’s first High Bandwidth Memory (HBM) integrated with artificial intelligence (AI) processing power — the HBM-PIM. The new processing-in-memory (PIM) architecture brings powerful AI computing capabilities inside high-performance memory...

Most of today’s computing systems are based on the von Neumann architecture, which uses separate processor and memory units to carry out millions of intricate data processing tasks. This sequential processing approach requires data to constantly move back and forth, resulting in a system-slowing bottleneck especially when handling ever-increasing volumes of data.

Instead, the HBM-PIM brings processing power directly to where the data is stored by placing a DRAM-optimized AI engine inside each memory bank — a storage sub-unit — enabling parallel processing and minimizing data movement. When applied to Samsung’s existing HBM2 Aquabolt solution, the new architecture is able to deliver over twice the system performance while reducing energy consumption by more than 70%. The HBM-PIM also does not require any hardware or software changes, allowing faster integration into existing systems.



SamsungNewsroom
Tom'sHardware

Destined for large-scale processing in data centers, high performance computing (HPC) systems and AI-enabled mobile applications for now, but should eventually make its way into GPUs.

This could get interesting. RDNA 3 bound?

RDNA 4 maybe

RDNA 3 is most likely already on the table passed the point of adding anything

[pax]

Ya not just availability but cost. The 20 nm node is also very early so production will be low. But damn if this is on rdna4 itll be amazing.

[LordHawkwind]

Ya not just availability but cost. The 20 nm node is also very early so production will be low. But damn if this is on rdna4 itll be amazing.

If this is true then RDNA3 end of 2022 and RDNA4 maybe 2024? Same goes for next gen Nvidia cards. It might be a long wait if you don't buy this gen and prices will only go up sadly.

https://www.techspot.com/news/88727-...last-2022.html

[pax]

Well they say wafer production was increased by 40% in Dec due to demand. At some point between those who cant afford the current prices, millions are unemployed and more losing their jobs all the time at about a million a week in the US, and the satiating of consumer demand at the high end I dont see that taking a year.

I say by summer things will stabilize assuming no unusual production disruption.

[LordHawkwind]

Well they say wafer production was increased by 40% in Dec due to demand. At some point between those who cant afford the current prices, millions are unemployed and more losing their jobs all the time at about a million a week in the US, and the satiating of consumer demand at the high end I dont see that taking a year.

I say by summer things will stabilize assuming no unusual production disruption.

Pax what do you mean by stabilize? At AMD's latest earnings call shareholders asked them why they wanted to produce more MBA cards at MSRP when they could sell them for far more and make more profit. Making big profits is AMD's & Nvidia's main aim, not selling cheap cards. Higher SKU margins mean bigger profits so win win for shareholders.

Whether we like it or not higher GPU prices are here to stay it would seem so we all need to just get used to the new normal.

[pax]

Pax what do you mean by stabilize? At AMD's latest earnings call shareholders asked them why they wanted to produce more MBA cards at MSRP when they could sell them for far more and make more profit. Making big profits is AMD's & Nvidia's main aim, not selling cheap cards. Higher SKU margins mean bigger profits so win win for shareholders.

Whether we like it or not higher GPU prices are here to stay it would seem so we all need to just get used to the new normal.

A lot of gamers are not buying cards and are starting to look elsewhere now. I know I am. It may sound good for amd and nvidia to sell cards that are grossly overpriced, tho its more likely its the AIB's and retailers who are cashing in and not AMD from the latest rumors, but in the long run it can damage your business. Theres a reason why console makers sell at cost or even a loss around 500$. The console gaming market is near non existent at 1000$ or higher.

So good business sense would want the TAM to be fully adressed and not just the top 10-20%. If you abandon for too long or undeserve the lower 70-80% of the gpu market you can lose it. If anyone can really capitalize on this its intel. They can make silicon on a mass scale and if they can keep prices in the normal range where most people buy videocards they can grab huge market share away from both amd and nvidia.

AMD knows this.

[bill dennison]

A Glimpse of RDNA 3 Graphics Architecture Based GPUs & APUs, AMD Patents Active Bridge Chiplet With Integrated Cache For Multi-Chiplet Designs

https://wccftech.com/a-glimpse-of-rd...et-gpu-design/

[pax]

Looks like they are adding integrated rdna to zen4 going forward as well so all apus like intel. No reason not to anymore I suppose as it doesnt impeed cpu perf.

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[bill dennison]

Looks like they are adding integrated rdna to zen4 going forward as well so all apus like intel. No reason not to anymore I suppose as it doesnt impeed cpu perf.

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yea

but if they are going to they should get it to do something with a AMD GPU Video card only to add support to the card

integrated crossfire

[Trunks0]

Integrated crossfire existed in the past. A cool update to that might be a sort of async crossfire. With the ability to I don't know... encode video for streaming, post-processing... maybe a HQ scaler for instance....

[Nunz]

Integrated crossfire existed in the past. A cool update to that might be a sort of async crossfire. With the ability to I don't know... encode video for streaming, post-processing... maybe a HQ scaler for instance....

Put only RT cores on the CPU..

[Nagorak]

Pax what do you mean by stabilize? At AMD's latest earnings call shareholders asked them why they wanted to produce more MBA cards at MSRP when they could sell them for far more and make more profit. Making big profits is AMD's & Nvidia's main aim, not selling cheap cards. Higher SKU margins mean bigger profits so win win for shareholders.

Whether we like it or not higher GPU prices are here to stay it would seem so we all need to just get used to the new normal.

I can't remember where, but I read an article that indicated AMD had shipped hardly any GPUs in Q4 2020, like way down from past years. They may be making money on the ones sold, but not selling very many. A lot of money is being left on the table because they can't even make the products.

Frankly it's still not clear to me how much of the current GPU problems are due to demand, and how much of it is just supply constraints. The EVGA step up queue is barely even moving, and while we don't know how many are in the queue, two week periods go by without any product being shipped to anyone. That sounds more like supply constraints to me than high demand. (High demand alone you'd see a few cards trickle out reliably, but the queue would still go slow because there are so many in it.)

[acroig]

I can't remember where, but I read an article that indicated AMD had shipped hardly any GPUs in Q4 2020, like way down from past years. They may be making money on the ones sold, but not selling very many. A lot of money is being left on the table because they can't even make the products.

Frankly it's still not clear to me how much of the current GPU problems are due to demand, and how much of it is just supply constraints. The EVGA step up queue is barely even moving, and while we don't know how many are in the queue, two week periods go by without any product being shipped to anyone. That sounds more like supply constraints to me than high demand. (High demand alone you'd see a few cards trickle out reliably, but the queue would still go slow because there are so many in it.)

Agreed.

[pax]

They're making less gpus than they used to but ASP's are higher:





https://www.tomshardware.com/news/gp...eration%20GPUs.

In general, discrete desktop GPU shipments in 2020 totaled approximately 41.5 million units and exceeded shipments of graphics cards in 2019. That's likely due to AMD and Nvidia both selling out of previous generation cards, rather than significant numbers of the latest generation GPUs. Shortages constrained and continue to limit AIB sales, and it's difficult to estimate just how high the actual demand for standalone desktop GPUs was in 2020. Looking forward, there's still unmet demand, and the GPU and graphics card makers would need to produce plenty of products to keep up in 2021. Unfortunately, that's likely not possible, as the shortages continue to plague the industry.

[bill dennison]

get ready if mining is still going on when this next gen hits MSRP on both AMD & NV will be like the RTX 2000's not the 3000's

with 3080's selling for 2 and 3 times MSRP i'm sure the jacket is mad as a wet hen that they are losing all that cash

[pax]

Ya I very much doubt global production of discreet will exceed much the 40-45 million mark next year. They simply will prioritize pro cards. Like we saw today at the GTC from the jacket, and cpus that are much more profitable. Only console apus might be less profitable. But those contracts are volume oriented and force the gpus makers into supply agreements.

I dont see this getting better anytime soon now. I might say **** it at retirement and grab a ~grand from the severance pay for a gpu then I dont know. I think Id rather wait for next gen at this point. The 7000 Radeon series and 4000 RTX series are said to be huge improvements.

[LordHawkwind]

Ya I very much doubt global production of discreet will exceed much the 40-45 million mark next year. They simply will prioritize pro cards. Like we saw today at the GTC from the jacket, and cpus that are much more profitable. Only console apus might be less profitable. But those contracts are volume oriented and force the gpus makers into supply agreements.

I dont see this getting better anytime soon now. I might say **** it at retirement and grab a ~grand from the severance pay for a gpu then I dont know. I think Id rather wait for next gen at this point. The 7000 Radeon series and 4000 RTX series are said to be huge improvements.

You might have a long wait. This from Nvidia..https://wccftech.com/nvidia-gpu-shor...graphics-card/

And even worse from Intel ..https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...chip-shortage/

So next Gen maybe very late 2022 or early 2023? Who knows. Personally I'm not bothered I'm just enjoying my 3090 in games with everything maxed out. Oh and my new all electric vehicle station wagon arrived and is brilliant. New GPU, CPU, Monitor and electric car in last four months or so. Not complaining.

[bill dennison]

You might have a long wait. This from Nvidia..https://wccftech.com/nvidia-gpu-shor...graphics-card/

And even worse from Intel ..https://www.washingtonpost.com/techn...chip-shortage/

So next Gen maybe very late 2022 or early 2023? Who knows. Personally I'm not bothered I'm just enjoying my 3090 in games with everything maxed out. Oh and my new all electric vehicle station wagon arrived and is brilliant. New GPU, CPU, Monitor and electric car in last four months or so. Not complaining.

NVIDIA Confirms That The Majority of PC Gamers Won’t Be Able To Buy A Gaming Graphics Card This Year, Shortages To Persist Throughout 2021

wonder why

Nvidia mining GPUs bring in three times more revenue than expected

https://www.techradar.com/news/nvidi...-than-expected


wonder what they are making more of now

[LordHawkwind]

wonder why

Miners aren't the only reason there are actually supply chain and component shortages as well.

https://www.techradar.com/news/nvidi...-than-expected

wonder what they are making more of now

It's called capitalism Bill and the American's claim to be good at it. Sell everything you can to whomever is willing to pay the highest prices. A miner's money is as good as a gamer's money after all. Companies want to make profits not friends.

The big question is where are all the AMD GPU's? Scott Herkelman promised AMD would supply the AIB's with enough chips to help them sell their cards at MSRP. That was in December. Never happened. He then said in January that AMD would keep on producing their own cards and sell them at MSRP. Never happened.

So what's going on? I would hazard a guess $ony & M$ have a lot to do with it. Also Zen 3. The thing is Radeon GPU's appear to be the last in line for AMD at the moment and they're just ducking the issue by refusing to make any comments. Miners or consoles it all adds up to the same thing.

[bill dennison]

It's called capitalism Bill and the American's claim to be good at it. Sell everything you can to whomever is willing to pay the highest prices. A miner's money is as good as a gamer's money after all. Companies want to make profits not friends.

The big question is where are all the AMD GPU's? Scott Herkelman promised AMD would supply the AIB's with enough chips to help them sell their cards at MSRP. That was in December. Never happened. He then said in January that AMD would keep on producing their own cards and sell them at MSRP. Never happened.

So what's going on? I would hazard a guess $ony & M$ have a lot to do with it. Also Zen 3. The thing is Radeon GPU's appear to be the last in line for AMD at the moment and they're just ducking the issue by refusing to make any comments. Miners or consoles it all adds up to the same thing.

TSMC it's

water

https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/e...ient-reserves/

and auto industry then $ony & M$


...........

if i wanted to give up gaming for a year i could sell my 2080 ti Strix for 1750

https://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-ROG-St...Cclp%3A2334524

[pax]

Well ****:


https://www.tweaktown.com/articles/9...ked/index.html

AMD's new Navi 22-powered Radeon RX 6700 XT graphics cards are a kick ass GPU mining card, offering 44MH/s hash power at 120W.

Read more: https://www.tweaktown.com/articles/9...ked/index.html

[pax]

https://wccftech.com/amd-rdna-3-base...g-navi-rdna-2/

It looks like AMD's next-generation RDNA 3 'Navi 3X' GPUs for Radeon RX Gaming graphics cards are going to feature a much bigger gen-over-gen performance increase. Following up on his AMD Navi 33 GPU story, KittyYuko has now revealed that the flagship Navi 31 GPU is going to be one insanely powerful chip.

AMD Navi 31 GPU With RDNA 3 MCM Design To Offer 3x Performance Uplift Over Big Navi 21 RDNA 2 GPU, Expected To Feature 160 Compute Units & Over 10,000 Cores
Like the Navi 33 GPU which we reported yesterday, the AMD Navi 31 GPU will also be based on the RDNA 3 (GFX11) GPU IP. The Navi 31 GPU will be replacing the current flagship Navi 21 GPU and will be almost twice as large considering that it is going to feature a dual-chiplet design. We all think of the current Big Navi (21) GPU being an insanely powerful chip but based on the rumors we are now hearing for the next-generation parts, the Big Navi (31) GPU is going to make us forget the existing parts.

https://wccftech.com/amd-rdna-3-navi...0-cores-rumor/

Kind of insane they are saying the lowest navi 3 sku is the same as the 6900xt.

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Rumors have been pretty consistent for some time now that next gen is a big leap.

[LordHawkwind]

https://wccftech.com/amd-rdna-3-base...g-navi-rdna-2/



https://wccftech.com/amd-rdna-3-navi...0-cores-rumor/

Kind of insane they are saying the lowest navi 3 sku is the same as the 6900xt.

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Rumors have been pretty consistent for some time now that next gen is a big leap.

This is the last paragraph from Pax's link.

"The AMD RDNA 3 'Navi 3' GPU lineup of Radeon RX graphics cards will be competing with NVIDIA's own MCM GPUs based on either the Ada Lovelace GPUs. As of now, the next-gen parts still aren't expected till the end of 2022 or early 2023 so treat this information with a slight grain of salt."

Not coming our way anytime soon.That high end Navi 3 ain't going to cost $£800. Might need to stick a £$1 in front at least.

[Hapatingjaky]

You heard it folks, 300% performance increase....

More like 25%.

MCM designs are again going to come down to developer implementation. And considering that consoles still use a monolithic design this won't occur until the next gen of consoles. Or they release updated console skus like they did previously. But that's years out.