Official AMD Radeon RX 7000 Series (RDNA 3) Thread

[NIGELG]

Is anyone pumping this POS? Any orders from Rage? What did you buy?

Why do you call it a POS? To rile up AMD fans? You also called 3060/3070 garbage cards. Is that also to rile up owners of those cards as well?

The forum really was a whole lot more peaceful without you..

Anyway the new Radeon cards are good for upper mid range gamers just like the 4080. The performance is great and the ray tracing is very playable.

Who on this forum is willing to name 5 good games with Ray tracing? I have played Control, Metro and,Hitman 3 on my 3070 but what else besides Cyberpunk IS WORTHY?

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[NIGELG]

Seems like AMD missed an opportunity to gain market share with this latest launch.

I agree the Radeon prices should be 200 bucks lower at least.

[DeathKnight]

I'd probably try to pounce on an XTX if it was just a little bit less expensive. As it is I'll probably wait for a while. My 3080 is still doing ok.

[KAC]

Reference card from the AMD drop. Going to a friend of mine for what I paid when I receive it.

That’s awesome Rip

[KAC]

Why do you call it a POS? To rile up AMD fans? You also called 3060/3070 garbage cards. Is that also to rile up owners of those cards as well?

The forum really was a whole lot more peaceful without you..

Anyway the new Radeon cards are good for upper mid range gamers just like the 4080. The performance is great and the ray tracing is very playable.

Who on this forum is willing to name 5 good games with Ray tracing? I have played Control, Metro and,Hitman 3 on my 3070 but what else besides Cyberpunk IS WORTHY?

I

I am free to have my opinion. It is not directed at you so do what you want. Btw I had 5 of those garbage 3070s.

[Sasquach]

Why do you call it a POS? To rile up AMD fans? You also called 3060/3070 garbage cards. Is that also to rile up owners of those cards as well?

The forum really was a whole lot more peaceful without you..

Anyway the new Radeon cards are good for upper mid range gamers just like the 4080. The performance is great and the ray tracing is very playable.

Who on this forum is willing to name 5 good games with Ray tracing? I have played Control, Metro and,Hitman 3 on my 3070 but what else besides Cyberpunk IS WORTHY?

I

Dont mind KAC, he's just a big elitist troll with more money than he has actual money. He's the guy who would be complaining about getting a Bentley for Christmas instead of a Rolls Royce. Peasant level brand ownership of any kind is unacceptable (Unless its a Ford Edge)
Theres USUALLY some legit stuff within his loads of BS, you just gotta watch out for it and ignore the BS.

That said, these 7xxx cards dont seem all that impressive, or maybe they were just overhyped to hell.

[Falck]

Happy to announce that I have a Radeon 7900 XTX MBA in the mail, prolly have it tomorrow!

[KAC]

Happy to announce that I have a Radeon 7900 XTX MBA in the mail, prolly have it tomorrow!

Tell us how you like it.

[Trunks0]

Why do you call it a POS? To rile up AMD fans? You also called 3060/3070 garbage cards. Is that also to rile up owners of those cards as well?

The forum really was a whole lot more peaceful without you..

Anyway the new Radeon cards are good for upper mid range gamers just like the 4080. The performance is great and the ray tracing is very playable.

Who on this forum is willing to name 5 good games with Ray tracing? I have played Control, Metro and,Hitman 3 on my 3070 but what else besides Cyberpunk IS WORTHY?

I

KAC is just ribbin.

5... Erhm I'll try...

- Ghostwire Tokyo
- Marvel's Spider-man
- Marvel's Spider-man: Miles morales
- Dying Light 2 - Although to be fair they slacked on the non-rt mode. But it's RT mode still looks good.

Bonus - The Witcher 3 just got a big RT update. Just came out though, so can't say if it's really worth it yet.

[Sasquach]

KAC is just ribbin.

5... Erhm I'll try...

- Ghostwire Tokyo
- Marvel's Spider-man
- Marvel's Spider-man: Miles morales
- Dying Light 2 - Although to be fair they slacked on the non-rt mode. But it's RT mode still looks good.

Bonus - The Witcher 3 just got a big RT update. Just came out though, so can't say if it's really worth it yet.

PS4 vs PS5, ray tracing vs not. I believe the consoles use a customized RDNA2 so this would be sort of representative of RDNA2 hardware?
Noticeable difference but its not as huge as i would have thought.

I would imagine it would be more significant on the PC though, especially on nvidia cards.

[NIGELG]

KAC is just ribbin.

5... Erhm I'll try...

- Ghostwire Tokyo
- Marvel's Spider-man
- Marvel's Spider-man: Miles morales
- Dying Light 2 - Although to be fair they slacked on the non-rt mode. But it's RT mode still looks good.

Bonus - The Witcher 3 just got a big RT update. Just came out though, so can't say if it's really worth it yet.

As Nvidia owners we must accept that Ray Tracing hasn't yet taken off as much as we hoped.

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[Megaman]

Happy to announce that I have a Radeon 7900 XTX MBA in the mail, prolly have it tomorrow!

Congrats. Let us know your thoughts.

[Trunks0]

I think UE 5 having a really well optimized RT mode is going to really help it take off. As it vastly reduced the entry cost.

[pax]

Dont mind KAC, he's just a big elitist troll with more money than he has actual money.

I want that kind of money

That said, these 7xxx cards dont seem all that impressive, or maybe they were just overhyped to hell

Give it couple driver revs itll be a lot better than some think. They say the driver team was told theyt will work over xmas lol...

[pax]

Happy to announce that I have a Radeon 7900 XTX MBA in the mail, prolly have it tomorrow!

Ref or AIB? Im looking out for an Asus TUF but everything is sold out in Canada even the 7900xt lower models... Even that would be a huge upgrade over the Vega 64 but then almost anything else in the last 2 gens would too.

[bill dennison]

Ref or AIB? Im looking out for an Asus TUF but everything is sold out in Canada even the 7900xt lower models... Even that would be a huge upgrade over the Vega 64 but then almost anything else in the last 2 gens would too.

is the Asus TUF even out yet ?
i haven't seen it listed yet or a price


or any MSI 7900 XT/X listed

with even the PowerColor RED DEVIL RX7900XTX 24G-E/OC/LIMITED at 1099 and only 1500 cards, AMD must be stepping on the AIB's on price
only seen a asrock with a full waterblock more at 1449

and no Strix yet
i would love to see a Asus 7900 xtx Poseidon

[CyanBlues]

as far as I can tell, the only non reference AIB that seems to be for sale in the usa is the xfx merc xtx, it was at bestbuy and b and h. The rest seems to be aib reference

[LordHawkwind]

is the Asus TUF even out yet ?
i haven't seen it listed yet or a price


or any MSI 7900 XT/X listed

with even the PowerColor RED DEVIL RX7900XTX 24G-E/OC/LIMITED at 1099 and only 1500 cards, AMD must be stepping on the AIB's on price
only seen a asrock with a full waterblock more at 1449

and no Strix yet
i would love to see a Asus 7900 xtx Poseidon

Hi Bill. MSI haven’t any Radeon cards yet and it’s not sure if they will. No supply of the 7900XTX in the UK but loads of 4080 cards.

[Destroy]

Man, VR performance is really poor.
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[Exposed]

KAC is just ribbin.

5... Erhm I'll try...

- Ghostwire Tokyo
- Marvel's Spider-man
- Marvel's Spider-man: Miles morales
- Dying Light 2 - Although to be fair they slacked on the non-rt mode. But it's RT mode still looks good.

Bonus - The Witcher 3 just got a big RT update. Just came out though, so can't say if it's really worth it yet.

Dying Light 2 has very good global illumination ray traced lighting. Sunsets/Dawn are especially awesome.

Just annoyed they can't be assed to implement something as simple as HDR. Dying Light 2's lighting with HDR would be exceptional on OLED's.

[pax]

is the Asus TUF even out yet ?
i haven't seen it listed yet or a price


or any MSI 7900 XT/X listed

with even the PowerColor RED DEVIL RX7900XTX 24G-E/OC/LIMITED at 1099 and only 1500 cards, AMD must be stepping on the AIB's on price
only seen a asrock with a full waterblock more at 1449

and no Strix yet
i would love to see a Asus 7900 xtx Poseidon

Ya no TUF up here yet its just the ref asus and no msi either. Most AIB are reference models tho we are seeing the custom Powercolor, Asrock and Saphirre listed. read that the 200k number is what they are shifting between release and end of January.

[Gandalfthewhite]

Ya no TUF up here yet its just the ref asus and no msi either. Most AIB are reference models tho we are seeing the custom Powercolor, Asrock and Saphirre listed. read that the 200k number is what they are shifting between release and end of January.

that would be an average of ~20k a week

[Falck]

Well, haven't gamed on it yet. Maybe this weekend I'll find some time.

It's reference model, MBA = Made By AMD I believe.

Some images:

[pax]

Nice reference model looks good!

Another AIB model tested at TPU:

Maximum Overclock ComparisonAvg. GPU ClockMax. Memory ClockPerformance
AMD RX 7900 XT 2663 MHz 2750 MHz 269.3 FPS
AMD RX 7900 XTX 2930 MHz 2750 MHz 305.5 FPS
ASUS RX 7900 XTX TUF3199 MHz2800 MHz347.9 FPS
Sapphire RX 7900 XTX Nitro+ 3174 MHz 2800 MHz 344.5 FPS
XFX RX 7900 Merc 310 3165 MHz 2750 MHz 339.3 FPS

Saphirre Nitro getting 3.174 ghz at TPU looks like the oc arent a fluke with 3 tested AIB models now over 3 ghz.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/s...-nitro/39.html

[CurrentlyPissed]

It appears A0 silicon does in-fact have a silicon flaw which was supposed to be recovered in drivers. That being said, clearly its not. We now have /multiple/ sources of AIBs hitting over 3ghz. This doesn't make any sense. Either AMD is completely oblivious to this, or they really wanted to market lower power cards. But why, maybe to give AIB more headroom, but again.. Why?

That being said, I went from skipping this generation (have a 3070 Ti), to now thinking 7900XTX AIB is the play. Once a few more reviews come out, and they are available, assuming they aren't $400 more than mba the 4090, and 4080 are in some serious trouble.

I really don't understand why AMD wouldn't take advantage of this though. Why are the MBAs so much lower on power and clocks. 7950 XTX room?

[pax]

MBA's can oc ok up to 2.9 ghz but the cooler is way inferior to AIB models. GN had a teardown and it was obvious its a pretty basic cooler and being smaller for smaller builds which makes sense for AMD to have done for some markets.

Im not sure about that AO silicon issue its listed under drivers but some on reddit have said its typical early silicon that is worked on by engineers so the driver was just adjusted for that early buggy tape out. Probably they have a one size fits all driver that kept support for the early AO stepping if it was still being worked on when the retail release version came out.

Reddit thread about it here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment...39AKT7gXuDAQAA

[NIGELG]

Well, haven't gamed on it yet. Maybe this weekend I'll find some time.

It's reference model, MBA = Made By AMD I believe.

Some images:

Nice, man. Hope you can give us a little review.

[Riptide]

Agree. Would like to know whether your sample has significant coil whine like GN's did. And also if you can check for power spikes and idle power usage.

[LordHawkwind]

Sadly it seems the 7900 XTX is another paper launch in the UK. Nothing available anywhere, There are a few XT models but retailing for over £100+ MSRP. Total joke really they just never learn which makes you wonder why you want to support AMD. Whilst I don't need one, if one was available for MSRP NOW I would buy it. I'm not in a rush I'll wait 6 months until the price drops £100 to the level it should be priced at because they can't sell them in volume. Until then happy with my 3090. Game on.

[pax]

Sadly it seems the 7900 XTX is another paper launch in the UK. Nothing available anywhere, There are a few XT models but retailing for over £100+ MSRP. Total joke really they just never learn which makes you wonder why you want to support AMD. Whilst I don't need one, if one was available for MSRP NOW I would buy it. I'm not in a rush I'll wait 6 months until the price drops £100 to the level it should be priced at because they can't sell them in volume. Until then happy with my 3090. Game on.

Why would feel the need to upgrade? 3090 should be ample for some time...

[pax]

It appears A0 silicon does in-fact have a silicon flaw which was supposed to be recovered in drivers. That being said, clearly its not. We now have /multiple/ sources of AIBs hitting over 3ghz. This doesn't make any sense. Either AMD is completely oblivious to this, or they really wanted to market lower power cards. But why, maybe to give AIB more headroom, but again.. Why?

That being said, I went from skipping this generation (have a 3070 Ti), to now thinking 7900XTX AIB is the play. Once a few more reviews come out, and they are available, assuming they aren't $400 more than mba the 4090, and 4080 are in some serious trouble.

I really don't understand why AMD wouldn't take advantage of this though. Why are the MBAs so much lower on power and clocks. 7950 XTX room?

This might settle that:

https://twitter.com/Olrak29_/status/1603984304052523009

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And AMD speaks on the issue of the prefetcher:

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/am...ce=twitter.com

Reports that AMD's RDNA 3 GPUs have broken shader pre-fetch functionality aren't accurate, according to a statement that AMD issued to Tom's Hardware:

"Like previous hardware generations, shader pre-fetching is supported on RDNA 3 as per [gitlab link(opens in new tab)]. The code in question controls an experimental function which was not targeted for inclusion in these products and will not be enabled in this generation of product. This is a common industry practice to include experimental features to enable exploration and tuning for deployment in a future product generation." — AMD Spokesperson to Tom's Hardware.

[KAC]

Do all cards have coil whine? Seems most reviewers are having it even with AIB cards. Did someone on this forum also have coil whine?

[Falck]

I don't have cw on general, but i have noticed some when the intro to Deus Ex Mankind Divided played. (Yeah, i like the game). The few games I've tested, CP2077, outer worlds and Metro Exodus Enhanced I haven't noticed any particular CW.

[KAC]

So it is high fps whine only. What fps was the intro playing at? 200, 300, 500? Just checking when does it start?

[Megaman]

Any of you 79XX owners experiencing memory clocks dropping when core clock is increased to high levels?

[pax]

Jayz2censt found that to be the problem when ocing the reference MBA model but not so much with the red devil big cooler one. So temps might be forcing ram to downclock pretty severely. Lack of scaling again seems to be a driver issue imo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KvkVumbgvw

[pax]

Interesting tip here to try out looks like MBA reference models of the 7900 run a lot cooler when gpu is vertical vs horizontal.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment...when_vertical/

Hello all! Playing borderlands 3 with an open case with a 7900 XTX ordered right from AMD.com. The card has max junction temps and max fan speed constantly while playing in the normal horizontal position. If I lay the PC on its side and the GPU sits in the VERTICAL position, the junction temps never exceed 70 degrees! Obviously something physically wrong with this cooler? Any advice? Thanks!

A few other posters chimed in on this and got good temps reductions...

[Falck]

Yeah, I'm seeing junction temp @110, while GPU temp @55-60 while gaming... Not fun.

[pax]

At least there's an easy possible solution... if it worked I wouldnt bother an RMA about it.

[Falck]

At least there's an easy possible solution... if it worked I wouldnt bother an RMA about it.

You're thinking of washers, like with Radeon VII?

I must admit I did it with Radeon VII, but that card was "only" around 700USD...

Or tilting the case? My problem with tilting is that I use a ssupd Meshlicious, so if I tilt it with GPU fans upwards, if I understood the reddit-fix correctly, the CPU block will "hang". But maybe that's not a big issue?