Official AMD Radeon RX 7000 Series (RDNA 3) Thread

[Seyiji]

[pax]

https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-7...idia-rtx-4080/

Finally, we have the Vulkan benchmarks where the AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT ends up 10% faster than the RTX 4080 and 42% faster than the Radeon RX 6900 XT graphics card. We can also see the card boosting up to 2025 MHz which is far below its peak boost clock of 2.4 GHz.

Not bad and lets see what ocing can do.

[KAC]

Any real reviews out yet?

[pax]

No those are out Dec 12 or after. One reviewer said NDA drops one day early.

[Falck]

Can't wait! I want it, my 6800XT has done well, but can't wait to max out games in UW for a little while. Going for 7900XTX this time. Don't care, gotta fill the void after a break-up. Best way is to use money, right?

[Megaman]

That’s the spirit!

[Jay20016]

Can't wait! I want it, my 6800XT has done well, but can't wait to max out games in UW for a little while. Going for 7900XTX this time. Don't care, gotta fill the void after a break-up. Best way is to use money, right?

We receive our bonus checks on Dec 13th. I know how much I am going to get, I know what I want that money to go towards, but... its as if the universe is telling me something.

[Nagorak]

I'll feel a little underwhelmed if it's only 10% faster than the 4080.

[Nunz]

I'll feel a little underwhelmed if it's only 10% faster than the 4080.

More than a little.

[pax]

I'll feel a little underwhelmed if it's only 10% faster than the 4080.

Thats the 7900xt from what I saw on one leak. XTX is a bit more. But itll be a mixed bag as always in pure raster. 4080 should be faster RT.

[pax]

https://www.techpowerup.com/301992/f...chmarks-leaked

Early benches but some say they are fake. If not they show pretty good perf vs 4080.

[SSXeon]

https://www.techpowerup.com/301992/f...chmarks-leaked

Early benches but some say they are fake. If not they show pretty good perf vs 4080.

Very underwhelming...... seems like the R600 but not as bad. Guess I am keeping my 2080S until I can get a 4090 that isn't $1600..... AMD dropped the ball big time.

[pax]

Nvidia wont drop its prices. To get a 4090 that is 1000$ would be midrange next gen 5070ti nvidia or amd 7950xt if they make it.

[Megaman]

I’d wait for official reviews.

Source = Trust me bro.

[SSXeon]

Yeah pax ik, but a boy can dream.

I’d wait for official reviews.

Source = Trust me bro.

True

[Nagorak]

Even ignoring "leaked" benchmarks and going instead with the official stuff that's been shown, I'm kind of feeling like the 7900 XT is priced too high. I think AMD should have just had the 7900 XT be $800 and named the 7800 XT and then have the 7900 XTX be named the 7900 XT at $1000.

Right now I don't know who would want a 7900 XT? If you're already spending $900 are you really going to shy away from spending $1000 for a tangible performance increase?

[pax]

Whats worse for the 7900xt is that the N32 is supposed to run easily at 3.2+ ghz. My bet is it would match it and even beat it at times. The only thing left to the 7900xt being the extra 4 gb of vram. I think AMD placed the 7900xt at 900$ because it wants N32 at 800$...

[KAC]

So no reviews yesterday? Seems they really wanted to keep the lid on so that people buy before looking at performance (the 20% that still buy AMD cards).

[bill dennison]

PowerColor Unveils Radeon RX 7900 Red Devil Series Graphics Cards: 21 VRM Phases & Swappable Backplate

https://wccftech.com/powercolor-unve...ble-backplate/

[Riptide]

Hearing rumors that there is some kind of hardware bug crippling performance at 4k that can't be resolved with drivers.

Not good if true.

[KAC]

Not sure if someone posted this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSKbpq3arXA

[pax]

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/a...n-rx-7900-xtx/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UFiG7CwpHk

First reviews are up and pretty much what was expected as a mixed bag. Felt like some results are def just early drivers. Seeing it beat a 4090 unoced in a few titles is impressive even if sometimes its at lower resolutions. 2.9 ghz oc was not bad. Thought they'd be stuck at 2.7 max from leaks.

[KAC]

Last gen's RT performance now available with AMD. Pretty poor showing imo but that was expected. I think if people are on a budget and value RT then RTX 4080 is the way to go.
If you want to live in the past and use Raster only for games then seems 7900XTX might be a good buy.

[Exposed]

As expected it trades blows with a regular 4080, and is trounced by the 4090. I don't know why some were were expecting 90% the performance of a 4090. In fact the 4080 demolishes the 7900XTX in ray traced titles, so there's little reason to alter prices. You get what you pay for. When Hardware Unboxed says a 4080FE is a better value at $1200 than the 7900XTX at $1k, then you know AMD messed up (again).

[KAC]

What this dude said...

[Nagorak]

I think the expectations were based on AMD's slides showing so much uplift (+50-60%) versus the 6950XT (or was it 6900 XT?). If you extrapolated based on that then it should have been pushing up against the 4090, and in some cases it was, but it seems like in actual testing the results are quite inconsistent. The uplift compared to the 6950XT in a lot of situations is only like 30%, sometimes even less.

I feel like the problem is really that we're not getting much for our money this gen. The only reason to get anything is if you want to pay up for the best (RTX 4090). Otherwise the price/performance is no better than last gen cards at current MSRP. The current pricing on 4080 and 7900 XTX is not really very inviting.

Based on the 7900 XTX the 7900 XT is going to look like **** unless it's an Radeon 290 vs Radeon 290X situation.

I will say this: if there really is a clock scaling bug that is holding back RDNA3 then 7900 XTX should have been branded as 7800 XT and sold for no more than $800. Then they could slot any fixed respins above that.

[pax]

Being the first chiplet gen I think they went for stability at first and we'll get perf later. Too many games were as little as 15% above a 6950xt. For the HW difference between the 2 theres clearly room to grow there. Big driver due in Jan-Feb for hyper-x and probably perf.

If they could get up to 2.9 ghz OC on the small reference cooler theres a chance we'll see 3.0 ghz on the big honking AIB models.

[SSXeon]

What a mess, its R600 all over again.... The good news is I can't get a 3080 or 3090 for a good price, guess I am stuck with my 2080S again.

[pax]

https://twitter.com/0x22h/status/1602297154051010560

This guy got almost 4 ghz out of his 7900... just works with general compute but still damn. That respin may well be worth waiting for.

[Trunks0]

About what I expected. It trades blows with the 4080 in raster, with the outlier here and there where it taps on the 4090's door (with COD being an extreme outlier where it blows past the 4090) and has RT on par with the 3090/Ti. It's the least expensive top teir card, so that works for me.

That said, if nVidia wanted to really shake things up... they would drop the 4080 to price match. It's not selling at it's current price and with the performance being this close it's not likely to. RT is awesome, but that not going to get people to spend the extra $200 bux. But if they price matched... AMD would be in a real tough spot.

[Sasquach]

Last gen's RT performance now available with AMD. Pretty poor showing imo but that was expected. I think if people are on a budget and value RT then RTX 4080 is the way to go.
If you want to live in the past and use Raster only for games then seems 7900XTX might be a good buy.

To be honest its gonna take RT a few generations to reach the masses with an acceptable level of price/performance (just like all the past "next big thing"' features like the early days of 16bit vs 32bit colours, early days of AA and anisotropic filtering, and later on with Tesselation and ambient occlusion). right now you still need the absolute most insanely expensive cards to run it decently (at nvidia to boot).
If people are on a "budget" for RT they'd best get an RTX 3xxx series card.....In what universe would someone on a "budget" go for a 4080? lol

[KAC]

I think people need to move past the 1000$ barrier. It was relevant in 2018 but almost 4+ years later is no longer relevant.

With inflation etc. the budget card is the 1000$ for a PC gamer. Otherwise people should just buy a console. Buying garbage cards like 3060 Ti / 3070 are no longer feasible options if you want to enjoy games on PC.

Average platform cost to build today is around 600$. Throwing in a garbage card just doesn’t help. Add peripherals and monitor etc. and you are touching 2000$ to run 1440P resolution with half the graphics. Better buy a 600$ console.

Everything IMO.

[demo]

So it's on par with 4080 in raster and 3080 in RT. Not sure who ths is targeted at, why would you buy their highest end GPU just to turn settings down in modern titles?

[pax]

https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-7...-shader-clock/

AMD Radeon RX 7900 XT 'Navi 31' GPU Overclocked To 3.7 GHz Front End Clock & 3.5 GHz Shader Clock

Wasnt sure about the OC whether it was the front end or the compute die. That both could oc this well is impressive. Def gonna wait for the respin on this.

[Trunks0]

So it's on par with 4080 in raster and 3080 in RT. Not sure who ths is targeted at, why would you buy their highest end GPU just to turn settings down in modern titles?

Because I still don't care enough about RT to bother spending an extra $200 bux? 3090/Ti level of RT performance will be usable enough.

[Trunks0]

I'm more worried about Coil whine... couple of reviews have mentioned this. So I might avoid the reference design :\

[Sasquach]

So it's on par with 4080 in raster and 3080 in RT. Not sure who ths is targeted at, why would you buy their highest end GPU just to turn settings down in modern titles?

If it comes down to it, you either care about RT or don't. And quite frankly i don't think RT is worth having yet beyond just showing off.

[SSXeon]

Also I have to have at least 100-120fps in games now, under that its soooooo sloooowww. I don't see people playing @ 120fps with RT and max settings.

[Exposed]

Also I have to have at least 100-120fps in games now, under that its soooooo sloooowww. I don't see people playing @ 120fps with RT and max settings.

I do, but then again I also have a 4090.

I think those downplaying ray tracing aren't those who would spend $1k on a video card anyways. RT is a pretty significant IQ enhancer these days (unless it's watered down specifically for AMD like Far Cry 6) and if you don't like ray tracing then you're pretty much not an image quality person to begin with. Spending 1k or more I would expect gamers would want to max out everything they can. That's why reviewers have been harsh on the 7900XTX for being relatively close in price to a 4080FE. Trades blows with a 4080 yet with significantly less ray tracing performance. RT & DLSS basically gives Nvidia a reason not to drop prices compared to an XTX.

[demo]

Yes exactly. I wouldn't want to pay that sort of money and have to compromise on eye candy, or disable features altogether. What's the point? At those prices just buy a 4080 or 4090.