Official AMD Radeon RX 7000 Series (RDNA 3) Thread

[badsykes]

nope unless proof of stake ever gets turned on but it's over what a full year late now and not going in to june now
they keep pushing it off 6 months

without that most miners will keep going with the 3000 cards they got and keep sucking up all of both 3000's and 4000's they can get
hell some are using 3060's or lower and 2000 cards for mining now

or bitcoin dropping back to 2000 or lower
that is what happened last time to flood the second hand market bitcoin died



i hope MCM sucks ass at mining .
and they won't want any RDNA 3 cards as NV card are better at mining

Just read about proof of stake..Didn't know what that was until you posted.


https://www.algorand.com/resources/b...YaAuMwEALw_wcB

[Nunz]

2K for a 4080Ti? F that nonsense.

Look at the sources... lol

Bill will latch on to anything that fits the narrative he wants when it comes to NV being evil.

[badsykes]

Look at the sources... lol

Bill will latch on to anything that fits the narrative he wants when it comes to NV being evil.

Nv is not evil.I feel nv created a cult.It's disciples will sacrifice for the master.

[Nunz]

Nv is not evil.I feel nv created a cult.It's disciples will sacrifice for the master.

No, I don't think so. I think people will spend more to have the best and no one was able to anticipate just how much people would be willing to spend.

[badsykes]

No, I don't think so. I think people will spend more to have the best and no one was able to anticipate just how much people would be willing to spend.

So you think if AMD will have a better card next round people will switch ?

[bill dennison]

Look at the sources... lol

Bill will latch on to anything that fits the narrative he wants when it comes to NV being evil.

we will see
but we are in the same boat this time as when the 2000's came out only now bitcoin is higher and still going
if GPU mining has not been turned off by proof of stake or the death of bitcoin by the time they come out prices will be high as hell

and no i do NV is evil

but i do think they will do anything they can to maximize profits .
it is their #1 job, i just think they do it too well


and if you don't think the jacket isn't getting a ear full from people that matter like big shareholders that the MSRP on the 3080 FE is 699 but is selling on ebay for 1500 to 2000 bucks
i got this bridge to sell

i wonder just how much money they lost there not pricing the 3080 FE at 999 or even 1199 from the start

or do you really think the 3080 ti is really worth almost double the price for what 5% to 10%

[Nunz]

The 3080ti is more than 5-10% but again, you'll latch on to what fits your narrative. I had a 3080 and now a 3080ti.. not even close to 5-10% especially when tuned.

Their job is to make profits just like AMD. I didn't see you blasting Ryzen 5000 even though they overpriced the entire lineup due to a lack of competition...

[bill dennison]

The 3080ti is more than 5-10% but again, you'll latch on to what fits your narrative. I had a 3080 and now a 3080ti.. not even close to 5-10% especially when tuned.

Their job is to make profits just like AMD. I didn't see you blasting Ryzen 5000 even though they overpriced the entire lineup due to a lack of competition...

5% at 1080p and 10% at 4k
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/n...dition/28.html
spin it at you want but TPU is a lot more pro NV

as for AMD and the 5000's
if Intel had the 5950x it would be 999 to 1200 bucks if AMD had nothing very close .
not selling for 689
https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-595.../dp/B0815Y8J9N

[badsykes]

To put gas on fire ....

Build this RX 6900 XT Gaming PC for the cost of an RTX 3090

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIk-2ERcy5A

[Nunz]

5% at 1080p and 10% at 4k
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/n...dition/28.html
spin it at you want but TPU is a lot more pro NV

as for AMD and the 5000's
if Intel had the 5950x it would be 999 to 1200 bucks if AMD had nothing very close .
not selling for 689
https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-595.../dp/B0815Y8J9N

Prices have dropped significantly since AlderLake release. Also just pure speculation, as usual, when it comes to your anti NV and anti Intel bias.

I don't need reviews when I've owned both cards. You believe what you want while you haven't owned either.

[bill dennison]

Prices have dropped significantly since AlderLake release. Also just pure speculation, as usual, when it comes to your anti NV and anti Intel bias.

I don't need reviews when I've owned both cards. You believe what you want while you haven't owned either.

yes don't believe all the reviews just believe you some anti AMD dude

i've bought more Intel CPU's than AMD'S i had only Intel from my AMD 486 to my 1800x
and more NV cards for a lot longer then you have had AMD cards hell i had NV cards before GeForce

and i skipped the AMD 5000's also as not a big deal over the 3000's

[bill dennison]

To put gas on fire ....

Build this RX 6900 XT Gaming PC for the cost of an RTX 3090

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIk-2ERcy5A

https://www.newegg.com/powercolor-ra...82E16814131785

not enough performance increase for 1600 bucks


.....
see what news AMD has at CES soon

[Nunz]

yes don't believe all the reviews just believe you some anti AMD dude

i've bought more Intel CPU's than AMD'S i had only Intel from my AMD 486 to my 1800x
and more NV cards for a lot longer then you have had AMD cards hell i had NV cards before GeForce

and i skipped the AMD 5000's also as not a big deal over the 3000's

Just because AMD makes products that aren't worth purchasing, doesn't make me anti-AMD. I'm sorry the truth hurts.

Not sure how the difference between a 3080 and 3080ti being wider than 5-10% makes me anti-AMD, but that's logic only you possess

[LordHawkwind]

What kind of people will pay another round (in q4 2022) this prices ? Many who have money already bought 3000 series..Will they have another 2000 euros to pay again ?
Also the current prices begin at 600 euros (6600 and 2060) .... Who will pay this prices in the lower end ?
Let's say miners will replace most of their cards .... The second hand market will reiceive a flood of 3000 series and 6000 series that now in retail costs hefty prices ?

badsykes there are always people who will pay the price. Sadly I used to set a limit above which if I didn't think it was value I wouldn't buy. Now I'm not too bothered. At my age I probably have more money than time left so if I want it I'll buy it. Not rocket science really

[badsykes]

badsykes there are always people who will pay the price. Sadly I used to set a limit above which if I didn't think it was value I wouldn't buy. Now I'm not too bothered. At my age I probably have more money than time left so if I want it I'll buy it. Not rocket science really

There are a few people that can afford paying 1000-2000$ so many times on a vga.

Anyway this article ends with a gut feeling:

https://wccftech.com/will-gpus-get-c...ly-it-depends/

Our gut feel

Realistically speaking, however, you are probably looking at a mix of these two extremes with some easement to the GPU supply and some price increase in a randomly selected successor to ETH 1.0. We should be looking at price decreases between 30-50% by June/July of 2022 as well as far greater supply as some operations decide to liquidate and gamers buy up the GPUs. With the semiconductor industry investing in additional resources, it is clear, however, that sooner or later (think 4 years), the supply crunch will end and will finally lead to cheap GPUs for everyone (well, relatively; because in our opinions, we are unlikely to ever hit the extremely cheap sup-$500 price levels anytime soon).

[acroig]

There will be a price drop but my gut says it will not happen until market supply stabilizes in late '22.

[bill dennison]

There will be a price drop but my gut says it will not happen until market supply stabilizes in late '22.

2024 with the new TSMC and Samsung fabs in the US start coming on line
in the end with Intel now trying the buy up TSMC waffers they are going to cut into AMD and NV supplys


but TSMC seems to be getting mad at intel's mothing off

TSMC and Intel Get Into a Rare Public Spat Over U.S. Chipmaking

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsl...-fully-charged

[LordHawkwind]

There will be a price drop but my gut says it will not happen until market supply stabilizes in late '22.

Firstly Merry Christmas to everyone at Rage3D. I have to agree with bill on this and it might take till 2024 for supply/demand to recover and prices to stabilise. Don't think my card will become obsolete over that time so happy to play a waiting game.

[badsykes]

Firstly Merry Christmas to everyone at Rage3D. I have to agree with bill on this and it might take till 2024 for supply/demand to recover and prices to stabilise. Don't think my card will become obsolete over that time so happy to play a waiting game.

Intel Enthusiast Gaming Graphics Cards Based on ARC Battlemage GPUs Coming in Mid-2023, Will Tackle High-End NVIDIA Lovelace & AMD RDNA 3 GPUs

https://wccftech.com/intel-enthusias...d-rdna-3-gpus/

[bill dennison]

Intel Enthusiast Gaming Graphics Cards Based on ARC Battlemage GPUs Coming in Mid-2023, Will Tackle High-End NVIDIA Lovelace & AMD RDNA 3 GPUs

https://wccftech.com/intel-enthusias...d-rdna-3-gpus/

Mid-2023 will most likely be 6 to 12 months late

NV's Hopper will be close by then and RDNA 4 soon after

[pax]

At least we'll not just get a third player but also get more volume in the market. It should help with prices and increase competition at the mid range.

[bill dennison]

At least we'll not just get a third player but also get more volume in the market. It should help with prices and increase competition at the mid range.

not if they are all 3 coming out of TSMC

and Apple keeps sucking them dry more and more

hopefully Intel can steal enough tech from TSMC to fix their own fabs
AMD may have to go back into fabs also

[LordHawkwind]

Intel Enthusiast Gaming Graphics Cards Based on ARC Battlemage GPUs Coming in Mid-2023, Will Tackle High-End NVIDIA Lovelace & AMD RDNA 3 GPUs

https://wccftech.com/intel-enthusias...d-rdna-3-gpus/

Total Joke. Intel GP's good luck. badsykes just buy something. You're waiting until mid 2023 really I'll enjoy my gaming rig until then cheers.

[badsykes]

Total Joke. Intel GP's good luck. badsykes just buy something. You're waiting until mid 2023 really I'll enjoy my gaming rig until then cheers.

I have an unusual confidence that the next gen cards will be a historic launch given all the global circumstances.I kinda don't want to miss this historic party
From 6th december i have my 16gb memory kit in warranty so i borrowed 4gb from dads computer.I am not playing any heavy games anyway.
I want at least 3080 like performance with at least 12 gb ram at around 600 euro

[Trunks0]

To be fair, if you wait and it doesn't pan out, your not likely to be much worse off than now. Other than the resale of your current GPU maybe going down abit.

[bill dennison]

nothing on RDNA 3 at CES so not 1H and more than likely Q4

[pax]

And nothing from nvidia either on next gen desktop. And Raja was nowhere to be seen on the intel showcase tho some gpus for laptops are incoming.

Guess the current gen is gonna be whats what this year. They will probably present the new stuff in the fall with availability next winter... plenty of time for you guys to enjoy your new gpus.

[acroig]

nothing on RDNA 3 at CES so not 1H and more than likely Q4

We've been telling you this for a long ass time. Both nV and AMD will launch Q3 '22 at best case.

Good thing you got your shiny new 6900 XTX OMGWTFBBQSAUCE

[Sasquach]

And nothing from nvidia either on next gen desktop. And Raja was nowhere to be seen on the intel showcase tho some gpus for laptops are incoming.

Guess the current gen is gonna be whats what this year. They will probably present the new stuff in the fall with availability next winter... plenty of time for you guys to enjoy your new gpus.

Time to get a 6600XT......would prefer a 6700XT at the price it goes for but dont see GPU prices dropping anytime soon......

But i think i'll hold off APU for AM5/Ryzen 7000G series for TV/console PC for later

[bill dennison]

We've been telling you this for a long ass time. Both nV and AMD will launch Q3 '22 at best case.

Good thing you got your shiny new 6900 XTX OMGWTFBBQSAUCE

i want MCM now


AMD has never missed a roadmap by a year
i hate covid

they need to build a AMD/TSMC fab AMD owned and run by TSMC and so does NV maybe

or Apple is going to push CPU's & GPU's right out of TSMC

[Trunks0]

Time to get a 6600XT......would prefer a 6700XT at the price it goes for but dont see GPU prices dropping anytime soon......

But i think i'll hold off APU for AM5/Ryzen 7000G series for TV/console PC for later

Loving mine. Performance faster, some times allot faster, than a 1080Ti usually and at worst around the same. Only it has better RayTracing support n' performance, consumes less power, runs quieter and will have longer driver support.

*shrug*, I have been very pleasantly surprised and happy with it. But I manged to snag it around MSRP at release.

[Sasquach]

Loving mine. Performance faster, some times allot faster, than a 1080Ti usually and at worst around the same. Only it has better RayTracing support n' performance, consumes less power, runs quieter and will have longer driver support.

*shrug*, I have been very pleasantly surprised and happy with it. But I manged to snag it around MSRP at release.

The best i can do right now is 600 bucks if and when it comes in stock at the local computer place. I told myself im never going to pay that much for a GPU again (I got the Radeon HD 5700 way back when and it was like 550 and although it was something i wanted and got, I felt i spent too much for a GPU) but with the way things are nowadays, we're paying a tier higher for cards that should be a tier lower....
I think the last reasonably priced GPU i could have had in the 300 dollar range was an already aging RX 580. I probably should have bought a 6600 XT when it first came out...i think it was like 450 dollars before the pricing spiked.

An RX 6600 XT is roughly equivalent performance to a RX 5700 XT and i'd be happy with that. Plus upgrading from an R9 290 should be a massive improvement lol.

Dont need the latest and greatest right now but would like to keep up to date. My Ryzen 5 2600X is still going strong and when its time to make a final push i can drop a Zen3 in my mobo as a final upgrade (assuming whenever that happens i can still find them available lol.....I had a phenom II 955 which i planned to last upgrade to a Phenom II X6 but by the time i was ready to get the upgrade, those CPU's were too expensive for what they were and Ryzen was well on its way towards Zen2)

[Trunks0]

Oh it's easily the worst price performance ratio I've ever bought. But it could have been much worse. And for the 2020's, that's about as good as it gets lol

[Megaman]

Instead of using the chips for more 3080/3080 Tis the dirty ****ers at Nvidia decide to release this 3090Ti with probably $4k a pop price tag and 8 % perf increase over the 3090 instead of easing the shortages. Goes to show how much they give a ****. Greedy mofos.

[bill dennison]

Instead of using the chips for more 3080/3080 Tis the dirty ****ers at Nvidia decide to release this 3090Ti with probably $4k a pop price tag and 8 % perf increase over the 3090 instead of easing the shortages. Goes to show how much they give a ****. Greedy mofos.

not seeing many 6800 or 6800 xt either

some 6700 xt's and lots of 6900 xt's

[Megaman]

Thought I put that in the 3080 thread

[bill dennison]

Thought I put that in the 3080 thread

have another

[pax]

The best i can do right now is 600 bucks if and when it comes in stock at the local computer place. I told myself im never going to pay that much for a GPU again (I got the Radeon HD 5700 way back when and it was like 550 and although it was something i wanted and got, I felt i spent too much for a GPU) but with the way things are nowadays, we're paying a tier higher for cards that should be a tier lower....
I think the last reasonably priced GPU i could have had in the 300 dollar range was an already aging RX 580. I probably should have bought a 6600 XT when it first came out...i think it was like 450 dollars before the pricing spiked.

An RX 6600 XT is roughly equivalent performance to a RX 5700 XT and i'd be happy with that. Plus upgrading from an R9 290 should be a massive improvement lol.

Dont need the latest and greatest right now but would like to keep up to date. My Ryzen 5 2600X is still going strong and when its time to make a final push i can drop a Zen3 in my mobo as a final upgrade (assuming whenever that happens i can still find them available lol.....I had a phenom II 955 which i planned to last upgrade to a Phenom II X6 but by the time i was ready to get the upgrade, those CPU's were too expensive for what they were and Ryzen was well on its way towards Zen2)

You're willing to pay 600$ for a 6600xt?

[Sasquach]

You're willing to pay 600$ for a 6600xt?

I dont really want to but the way GPU pricing is nowadays...not much of a choice. The other options are to wait who knows how long....and/or maybe out of sheer dumb luck i can catch a 6700XT in stock at the AMD website store and get that for around $700.

But now:

A 6600 is like $550-600
6600XT is $600+
6700XT is like $900
6800 XT is like $1500
6900 XT is like $2000+

[Trunks0]

I got mine @ $519. That same GPU is now listed at $719 Canadian rubles. Honestly Sasquach, your in a the same spot I was back in August and things have only gotten worse