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    Originally posted by bill dennison View Post
    I don't think a 5 or 6 slot air cooler will do 500+ watts

    the highest end cards are going to take a full waterblock or a 3 fan AIO cooler with a thick rad like a Alphacool NexXxoS Monsta


    https://www.aquatuning.us/water-cool...360mm-radiator

    or maybe a 420mm
    https://www.aquatuning.us/water-cool...420mm-radiator


    my 560mm
    https://www.aquatuning.us/water-cool...560mm-radiator

    cooled two gtx 980's and the cpu fine for two weeks without fans when i forgot to plug them back in once
    Hmm the price on that 560mm isnt as bad as I thought it would be. Huge and think it should be able to handle a lot.
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      Originally posted by pax View Post
      Ice Giant is pretty much one of the best coolers for threadripper tho and has a high watts cooling capacity. I think the copper version will do a lot better on smaller packages.

      I mean if the all aluminium model can handle 500w easy the copper one might be able to go a bit further.

      https://www.icegiantcooling.com/blog
      The only reason it's one of the best for TRX is because most coolers do not have mounting for it..

      The cooler gets outclassed by most 360mm AIOs on the market and in terms of performance/noise, it's completely outclassed .. not even remotely competitive.
      Originally posted by curio
      Eat this protein bar, for it is of my body. And drink this creatine shake, for it is my blood.
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        best cooler for threadripper

        https://shop.watercool.de/HEATKILLER...de-PURE-COPPER

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          Lol, I agree. You should check out Optimus, bill. Made in USA out of Chicago. Best performing blocks on the market right now.. beats the Foundation beats the Heatkiller IV by 2-3c, and their GPU blocks are miles ahead of anyone else on the market. Pricey, but top performance.

          www.optimuspc.com
          Originally posted by curio
          Eat this protein bar, for it is of my body. And drink this creatine shake, for it is my blood.
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            Originally posted by Nunz View Post
            Lol, I agree. You should check out Optimus, bill. Made in USA out of Chicago. Best performing blocks on the market right now.. beats the Foundation beats the Heatkiller IV by 2-3c, and their GPU blocks are miles ahead of anyone else on the market. Pricey, but top performance.

            www.optimuspc.com
            thank
            they look good

            but acrylic tops on video cards at 3090 prices
            and what no AMD cards ?

            not since i lost two ati 4870's in cfx due to acrylic tops cracking around their bolts
            600 bucks out the window

            it's acetal or full copper only for me on blocks


            and the full copper Heatkiller IV pro is a deadly weapon if you throw it at someone

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              Originally posted by bill dennison View Post
              thank
              they look good

              but acrylic tops on video cards at 3090 prices
              and what no AMD cards ?

              not since i lost two ati 4870's in cfx due to acrylic tops cracking around their bolts
              600 bucks out the window
              They're pretty small - still a new start-up company. They've been pummeled by COVID which really slowed them down. They haven't said much about making blocks for AMD GPUs, but let's be honest .. there's way more customers looking for NV blocks, so kind of have to prioritize the larger market as a small company.

              The acrylic they use is not the cheapo stuff you see from Alphacool and other companies. Apparently this acrylic is extremely heavy-duty. I'm also a fan of Acetal tops (and I also prefer a blacked-out design rather than RGB-puke-bling or seeing the fluid in the block) but hopefully down the road we see more options.

              They just moved to a new Cerakote finish rather than anodized Nickel - apparently it's better for heat transfer and removes the chance of nickel flaking.

              it's acetal or full copper only for me on blocks


              and the full copper Heatkiller IV pro is a deadly weapon if you throw it at someone
              yeah, the Heatkiller IV Pro is a monster! I love mine .. runs phenomenal on my 10900K mounted direct-die. They said they have plans for a new model (Heatkiller V) for 2022 .. hoping we see that as well. I'll need a new block for the Intel X299 successor
              Originally posted by curio
              Eat this protein bar, for it is of my body. And drink this creatine shake, for it is my blood.
              "If you can't handle me when I'm bulking, you don't deserve me when I'm cut." -- Marilyn Monbroe

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                Originally posted by Nunz View Post
                They're pretty small - still a new start-up company. They've been pummeled by COVID which really slowed them down. They haven't said much about making blocks for AMD GPUs, but let's be honest .. there's way more customers looking for NV blocks, so kind of have to prioritize the larger market as a small company.

                The acrylic they use is not the cheapo stuff you see from Alphacool and other companies. Apparently this acrylic is extremely heavy-duty. I'm also a fan of Acetal tops (and I also prefer a blacked-out design rather than RGB-puke-bling or seeing the fluid in the block) but hopefully down the road we see more options.

                They just moved to a new Cerakote finish rather than anodized Nickel - apparently it's better for heat transfer and removes the chance of nickel flaking.



                yeah, the Heatkiller IV Pro is a monster! I love mine .. runs phenomenal on my 10900K mounted direct-die. They said they have plans for a new model (Heatkiller V) for 2022 .. hoping we see that as well. I'll need a new block for the Intel X299 successor
                well i marked them and may well give them a try if they make a block for RDNA 3 that is first this time with me


                and may well skip lovelace along with ampere depends on prices
                not going to drop 4k on two cards that i can only use one at a time
                having both is not that big of deal without SLI/CFX

                i do like they are made here
                my AM4 block is a all copper EK and it has been fine
                and my 2080 ti Strix just doesn't need it it's fine on air

                but i do think RDNA 3 will need water .

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                  Everything needs water

                  I didn't build this custom loop for nothing!!!
                  Originally posted by curio
                  Eat this protein bar, for it is of my body. And drink this creatine shake, for it is my blood.
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                    Originally posted by Nunz View Post
                    Everything needs water

                    I didn't build this custom loop for nothing!!!
                    i got 5k+ in water crap around here only using about a third of it

                    my case has a pump header and reservoir combo for 6 D5 pumps that i made make out 9 feet 1 1/4 inch id copper hevey wall pipe i had left over from a A/c job
                    all touching the case aluminum and tranfering heat to the case
                    was how i realized my fans were off the case was warm to the touch

                    all i care about is i can't hear it at all

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                      https://www.gpumag.com/amd-rdna-3/

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                        5k in water cooling damn you guys are hardcore.

                        I hope those msrp's stick...
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                          AMD RDNA 3 GPU will be released soon: it is expected to be released in the second quarter of next year
                          https://min.news/en/tech/5d54a6cea8b...8248cf5f7.html

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                              MI200
                              The AMD Instinct MI250X offer 14,080 stream processors, up to 47.9 TFLOPS of FP64 performance, and 3.2 TB/s of memory bandwidth



                              https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-ceo-b...nvidia-killer/

                              RDNA 3 chip may look about the same

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                                Be cool if they go back to hbm I read they arent that much more expensive than GDDR6x.

                                Samsung seen as developing next gen gddr tho in gddr6+ and gddr7.

                                https://wccftech.com/samsung-ddr6-12...next-gen-gpus/

                                GDDR6+ With 24 Gbps & GDDR7 With 32 Gbps For Next-Gen GPUs
                                Samsung also revealed its plans to offer a faster GDDR6+ standard which will replace the existing GDDR6 chips. Currently, Micron is the only one that has designs for 21 Gbps+ graphics memory ready with its GDDR6X standard. GDDR6+ is more of a refinement of GDDR6 than just upping the bandwidth. It is said to rock speeds of up to 24 Gbps and will be part of the next generation of GPUs. This will allow GPUs with 320/352/384 bit bus layouts to reach over 1 TB/s bandwidth while 256-bit GPUs will be able to reach up to 768 GB/s bandwidth.

                                There's also GDDR7 which is currently on the graphics DRAM roadmap and is expected to offer up to 32 Gbps transfer speeds along with a real-time error protection technology. A GDDR7 memory sub-system across a 256-bit wide bus interface at 32 Gbps transfer speeds will offer 1 TB/s of total bandwidth. That's 1.5 TB/s with a 384-bit bus interface and up to 2 TB/s on a 512-bit system. This is just insane amounts of bandwidth for a GDDR standard.
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                                  https://www.tomshardware.com/news/ra...-increase-tsmc

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                                    50 to 100 on something being scalped for 1300 or as high as 2300 for a
                                    PowerColor Liquid Devil 6800XT

                                    not a big deal maybe a little higher price will stop the scalper from buying as many as they won't want to get stuck with a higher cost cards with like 6 to 8 months till the 7800

                                    at this point i wouldn't buy at 15% off MSRP let alone over pay ..just too late .

                                    but it's not a good sign for the next gen prices

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                                      Well isnt it 10% wholesale to the aib's? Doesnt sound too bad the real problem is the 2x and 3x msrp we are seeing.
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                                        Be interesting to see how navi31 does in this respect vs lovelace now that they are on the same TSMC 5nm mode. Tho rumors are the control chiplet on navi31 is 6nm...
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                                          Yes! Just the thread I wanted to get RTX 4090 news from!

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                                            Originally posted by Exposed View Post
                                            Yes! Just the thread I wanted to get RTX 4090 news from!
                                            , taken care of.

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                                                Originally posted by acroig View Post
                                                , taken care of.
                                                i really didn't want to post a anti Linda video in a NV thread but ok

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                                                  Originally posted by bill dennison View Post
                                                  i really didn't want to post a anti Linda video in a NV thread but ok
                                                  Why not? Plenty not to like such as the crazy power requirements.

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                                                    Originally posted by acroig View Post
                                                    Why not? Plenty not to like such as the crazy power requirements.
                                                    if it's NV a lot would not care if the 4090 is only 30% faster than a 3090 and 1000 watts and is 4500 USD and needs a add on chilled water cooler and sound like a lawn mower
                                                    they will find a way to justify not buying AMD even if 50% faster than the 4090 and 1500 USD


                                                    like first will be

                                                    but ..... but ..... but ... drivers

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                                                      Originally posted by bill dennison View Post
                                                      if it's NV a lot would not care if the 4090 is only 30% faster than a 3090 and 1000 watts and is 4500 USD and needs a add on chilled water cooler and sound like a lawn mower
                                                      they will find a way to justify not buying AMD even if 50% faster than the 4090 and 1500 USD


                                                      like first will be

                                                      but ..... but ..... but ... drivers
                                                      It doesn't matter as seems AMD cards are gold for miners...
                                                      The balance of powers

                                                      Anyway if those MSRP sticks and 7700 is as best as a 6900xt at half price and added an RTX tensors equivalent then is worth waiting.
                                                      "There is no beggining, and there is no end.There is no alpha, and there is no omega.You never began, and you will never end."

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                                                        7700xt might be good enough with current stuff as most gpus can handle the raster side of things pretty well. The one outlier maybe UE5 tho some demos seems to work fine on consoles. But if UE5 based games pushes things hard then we might need that huge rumored increase in raster capability from both vendors.
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                                                          Originally posted by badsykes View Post
                                                          It doesn't matter as seems AMD cards are gold for miners...
                                                          The balance of powers

                                                          Anyway if those MSRP sticks and 7700 is as best as a 6900xt at half price and added an RTX tensors equivalent then is worth waiting.

                                                          https://www.kryptex.org/en/hardware/amd-rx-6900-xt
                                                          https://www.kryptex.org/en/hardware/amd-rx-6800-xt
                                                          6900 XT and 6800 xt have a 65 Hashrate

                                                          New EVGA firmware boosts Ethereum mining on GeForce RTX 3080 Ti LHR units by over 20 percent, up to 91 MH/s
                                                          https://www.notebookcheck.net/New-EV....584967.0.html

                                                          non LHR cards are better but infinity cache seem to hurt mining and RDNA 3 still has infinity cache

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                                                            Infinity Cache doesn't hurt mining .. it's just AMD using slower GDDR6 with a tiny bandwidth bus.

                                                            AMD could release a card with a big bus, gddr6x, and infinity cache.. and it would perform just as well as any other card with matching throughput lol
                                                            Originally posted by curio
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                                                              Originally posted by Nunz View Post
                                                              Infinity Cache doesn't hurt mining .. it's just AMD using slower GDDR6 with a tiny bandwidth bus.

                                                              AMD could release a card with a big bus, gddr6x, and infinity cache.. and it would perform just as well as any other card with matching throughput lol
                                                              infinity cache or smaller bus it still has a low hashrate even compaired to AMD's last gen only about 10 more than a 5700 xt
                                                              well RDNA 3 will be the same bus and bigger Infinity Cache from what i have read so it still will not mine as well as NV

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                                                                Yeah, doesn't mine as well because the memory bandwidth is poor.

                                                                The hash difference is fitting for 448gb/s vs 512gb/s. Infinity Cache doesn't do anything - card still performs exactly as a 256-bit bus with gddr6 would.

                                                                AMD needs to make a big step with memory on the 7000 series, otherwise it'll be the limiting factor on the card at 4K. If they increase memory throughput, you'll see the mining capability skyrocket.

                                                                I truly hope they don't make the mistake of a 256-bit bus again, and drop the gimmick infinity cache that did nothing for the 6000 series.
                                                                Originally posted by curio
                                                                Eat this protein bar, for it is of my body. And drink this creatine shake, for it is my blood.
                                                                "If you can't handle me when I'm bulking, you don't deserve me when I'm cut." -- Marilyn Monbroe

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                                                                  There's no replacement for displacement.. err bus width.
                                                                  ____________________

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                                                                    Originally posted by bill dennison View Post
                                                                    if it's NV a lot would not care if the 4090 is only 30% faster than a 3090 and 1000 watts and is 4500 USD and needs a add on chilled water cooler and sound like a lawn mower they will find a way to justify not buying AMD even if 50% faster than the 4090 and 1500 USD

                                                                    like first will be

                                                                    but ..... but ..... but ... drivers
                                                                    Not me. If the 7900 turns out to be as good a card as you think (taken with a grain of salt) and costs £1,500 I'll probably buy it TBH. THe only caveat is it has to be air cooled as I don't do water cooling. Well not yet anyway And before you say anything, yes I've tended to slag off AMD drivers but to be fair I did own AMD cards for 10 years so I earned the right.

                                                                    Originally posted by badsykes View Post
                                                                    It doesn't matter as seems AMD cards are gold for miners...
                                                                    The balance of powers

                                                                    Anyway if those MSRP sticks and 7700 is as best as a 6900xt at half price and added an RTX tensors equivalent then is worth waiting.
                                                                    badsykes prices are not coming down anytime soon I'm afraid. Here in the UK we're back to working from home if you can (I can but I don't..I'm a rebel) so prices are going up again on GPU's. A new 6900XT is £1,800 and a new 3090 £2,100.

                                                                    I saw a 2nd hand Palit 3090 in a nationwide retail store for £2,300 and for a laugh I asked them how much they would give me for my card and they offered me £1,800 or £250 more than I paid for it and it's 12 moths old this week. They had a Red Devil 6900XT for £1,200 so I could have sold my card and pocketed £600. I politely declined their offer.

                                                                    The moral of this story is the 7700 is not going to be half the price and as powerful as a 6900XT. Sadly high prices will be with us for longer than people think because there are people who will pay the price.
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                                                                      AMD Teases CES 2022: We are not letting the foot off the gas pedal, We’re full speed ahead
                                                                      https://wccftech.com/amd-teases-ces-...l-speed-ahead/


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                                                                        https://cmcdistribution.com.vn/en/wh...pu-1640343074/

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                                                                          2K for a 4080Ti? F that nonsense.

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                                                                            Originally posted by acroig View Post
                                                                            2K for a 4080Ti? F that nonsense.
                                                                            the jacket is going to repeat the 2000 series pricing on mega steroids
                                                                            remember the 2000's were after the 1080 ti's were selling for 1600+ because of mining
                                                                            what is the 3090 and 3080 ti selling for on Ebay for now ?
                                                                            this mining is going to kill most gamers .

                                                                            the jacket knows they will be scalped that high or higher he is not going to toss all that cash in the trash again
                                                                            if he thought he could get away with doubling the MSRP of the 3000's he would


                                                                            he can lower prices later if needed but expect very high NV 4000 MSRP's for the first 6 months or so


                                                                            AMD will be lower but not much they need the gamers buying their cards more

                                                                            if the 7900 xt is as good as they say i won't like it but i will have to pay the 1500 for it but i would not go for the 7950 xt
                                                                            Last edited by bill dennison; Dec 24, 2021, 12:14 PM.

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                                                                              Originally posted by LordHawkwind View Post
                                                                              Not me. If the 7900 turns out to be as good a card as you think (taken with a grain of salt) and costs £1,500 I'll probably buy it TBH. THe only caveat is it has to be air cooled as I don't do water cooling. Well not yet anyway And before you say anything, yes I've tended to slag off AMD drivers but to be fair I did own AMD cards for 10 years so I earned the right.



                                                                              badsykes prices are not coming down anytime soon I'm afraid. Here in the UK we're back to working from home if you can (I can but I don't..I'm a rebel) so prices are going up again on GPU's. A new 6900XT is £1,800 and a new 3090 £2,100.

                                                                              I saw a 2nd hand Palit 3090 in a nationwide retail store for £2,300 and for a laugh I asked them how much they would give me for my card and they offered me £1,800 or £250 more than I paid for it and it's 12 moths old this week. They had a Red Devil 6900XT for £1,200 so I could have sold my card and pocketed £600. I politely declined their offer.

                                                                              The moral of this story is the 7700 is not going to be half the price and as powerful as a 6900XT. Sadly high prices will be with us for longer than people think because there are people who will pay the price.

                                                                              What kind of people will pay another round (in q4 2022) this prices ? Many who have money already bought 3000 series..Will they have another 2000 euros to pay again ?
                                                                              Also the current prices begin at 600 euros (6600 and 2060) .... Who will pay this prices in the lower end ?
                                                                              Let's say miners will replace most of their cards .... The second hand market will reiceive a flood of 3000 series and 6000 series that now in retail costs hefty prices ?
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                                                                                Originally posted by badsykes View Post
                                                                                What kind of people will pay another round (in q4 2022) this prices ? Many who have money already bought 3000 series..Will they have another 2000 euros to pay again ?
                                                                                Also the current prices begin at 600 euros (6600 and 2060) .... Who will pay this prices in the lower end ?
                                                                                Let's say miners will replace most of their cards .... The second hand market will reiceive a flood of 3000 series and 6000 series that now in retail costs hefty prices ?
                                                                                nope unless proof of stake ever gets turned on but it's over what a full year late now and not going in to june now
                                                                                they keep pushing it off 6 months

                                                                                without that most miners will keep going with the 3000 cards they got and keep sucking up all of both 3000's and 4000's they can get
                                                                                hell some are using 3060's or lower and 2000 cards for mining now

                                                                                or bitcoin dropping back to 2000 or lower
                                                                                that is what happened last time to flood the second hand market bitcoin died



                                                                                i hope MCM sucks ass at mining .
                                                                                and they won't want any RDNA 3 cards as NV card are better at mining

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                                                                                  ETH will die a slow death if it doesnt goto POS. You have other chains that are POS that are starting to catch up like Polygon.

                                                                                  But if those prices are msrp well then its game over. I know I wont be paying 500$ for some low end 128 mem bus crap.
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