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    Originally posted by razor1 View Post
    not even close
    Your right, 750 is closer to the truth.

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      Originally posted by SirBaron View Post
      8800 GTX in SLI came with the system it was prebuilt and 280GTX in SLI, but what's that got to do with anything?

      I was wondering on the price of their top top end cards, just because I have bought expensive in the past doesn't mean I intend to carry on that trend.
      ok w/e. Carry on.

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        Originally posted by Sound_Card View Post
        ok w/e. Carry on.


        Now I remember why I don't visit this section.
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          Originally posted by jam2k View Post
          There are some odd results with Crossfire (Not scaling like it should).

          Drivers need to be polished I guess ?
          emm what did you expect? just look on the 4870 vs GTX280 when it was out and now! wait up for the CATALYST team to make thier homework
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          NVIDIA's VP of Product Marketing, Ujesh Desai on late GT300:
          because designing GPUs this big is f***ing hard
          Salvation haven't been so easy.

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            Originally posted by SirBaron View Post


            Now I remember why I don't visit this section.
            Quite frankly, that means jack to me.
            Sorry man, calling it like it is. Why don't you just come out in the open about your bias instead of pretending to be objective.

            I'll bet that you will buy the next NV GPU regardless, claim your reasons, then that would be the last we all hear from you in this section anyway (until the next round of GPU's ). Carry on.

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              Originally posted by Sound_Card View Post
              Quite frankly, that means jack to me.
              Sorry man, calling it like it is. Why don't you just come out in the open about your bias instead of pretending to be objective.

              I'll bet that you will buy the next NV GPU regardless, claim your reasons, then that would be the last we all hear from you in this section anyway. Carry on.
              No actually I go for what suits me the best, I don't buy out of brand loyalty because I'm not some retarded douchebag that thinks companies are out for customer loyalty when they are only out for your money. Sorry man, but ATI doesn't love you at all, they love you wallet and the work you do for them and that's it.

              I like ATI cards, and still consider the 9800pro to be one of the best cards I ever owned. But currently Nvidia gives me the features I want, profiles/and 3D vision.

              Yes I am going to buy Nvidia next? why? Because I use 3D vision, which despite Nvidia's aggressive business tactics, and seeing as the only other solution for 3D on ATI is IZ3D which isn't sold outside of the US I'm pretty much screwed.

              I couldn't give a rats ass if you think I'm biased or not, the only reason I was interested in ATI was because I'm gunna buy my dad a new GPU for xmas to replace that ****ty Geforce 9800x2 he has in his PC, and ATI will probably offer the most bang for buck providing they carry on the trend of the 4xxx series.

              The only reason I don't post in the ATI section is because fanboys like you piss me off more than any other type of person out there.
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                Originally posted by SirBaron View Post
                Yes I am going to buy Nvidia next? why? Because I use 3D vision, which despite Nvidia's aggressive business tactics, and seeing as the only other solution for 3D on ATI is IZ3D which isn't sold outside of the US I'm pretty much screwed.
                so in essence you've already made up your mind .. why again are you here then ?
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                  My 5870 will be arriving in the mail tommorow
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                    Originally posted by AMD_G@y View Post
                    so in essence you've already made up your mind .. why again are you here then ?
                    Whatever
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                      Originally posted by Tom|Nbk View Post
                      My 5870 will be arriving in the mail tommorow
                      Congrats, now my PC doesn't feel that good anymore with my one GTX280 .
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                        Originally posted by AMD_G@y View Post
                        so in essence you've already made up your mind .. why again are you here then ?
                        Ahem:

                        Originally posted by SirBaron View Post
                        I was interested in ATI was because I'm gunna buy my dad a new GPU for xmas to replace that ****ty Geforce 9800x2 he has in his PC, and ATI will probably offer the most bang for buck providing they carry on the trend of the 4xxx series.
                        Besides, why do you care why he's here?
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                          Hypocrites never cease to amaze me.

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                            How am I a hypocrite?
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                              Originally posted by curio View Post
                              How am I a hypocrite?
                              Did I say you?
                              Was not directing at you.

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                                Vrooooom vrooooom
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                                  Originally posted by Sound_Card View Post
                                  Did I say you?
                                  Was not directing at you.
                                  Well you didn't say anyone's name, you didn't quote anyone and your post directly followed mine. Try real hard and I'm sure you'll figure out how why I assumed you were talking to me.
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                                    Originally posted by Sound_Card View Post
                                    Did I say you?
                                    Was not directing at you.
                                    blah blah blah.

                                    Yes we know you love ATI and hate Nvidia.

                                    But still no one has answered my question. A whole page and no one knows what the price of the top top end ATI card is?

                                    What's different about the highest end ATI card anyway? More clock/Memory speed?

                                    If it just ends up being more clock clock/memory I may just get him this card. Anything is better than the ****ty 9800GX2 card, man that card is a pos
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                                      I gotta say though I'm loving the 4 ports on the Card, 2 DVI HDMI and displayport.

                                      I wonder what's taking displayport so long anyway, before LCD's where DVI/VGa now most are just DVI.

                                      So where are the DVI/Displayport monitors?
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                                        Originally posted by SirBaron View Post
                                        But still no one has answered my question. A whole page and no one knows what the price of the top top end ATI card is?
                                        Which card are you talking about, the 5870?
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                                          Originally posted by curio View Post
                                          Which card are you talking about?
                                          Is that the highest end Single GPU from ATI?

                                          Here it's on preorder for £300 which is actually a pretty decent price for the performance.
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                                            Originally posted by Sound_Card View Post
                                            Don't see you around here that much Mabran...
                                            I'm around just not too vocal lately I flip between PC and console and I'm on a big PC run the past 6 months and have been doing upgrades as my machines were going on 4 years old.

                                            I'm back in the PC realm now as consoles while I still play my 360 they have turned more into media streamers than game machines and a crossfire 4890 is too sweet not to play
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                                              Originally posted by SirBaron View Post
                                              Is that the highest end Single GPU from ATI?

                                              Here it's on preorder for £300 which is actually a pretty decent price for the performance.
                                              Yeah, the 5870 is currently the fastest single gpu; and IMO that is a great price - but I'm gonna wait until the refresh or until the price on the 5870 goes down.
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                                                ok people, we are all here to enjoy discussing the 5870 review's lets not start a flame war!

                                                ON TOPIC: been reading all day, any CrossfireX (4x 4870/90 -2x4870X2) vs 5870(single/CF) spotted? everybody is measuring AA scaling but didnt find any XFire scaling..yet (ooo dark man of the "cave", you reading this?! )
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                                                NVIDIA's VP of Product Marketing, Ujesh Desai on late GT300:
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                                                  Originally posted by curio View Post
                                                  Yeah, the 5870 is currently the fastest single gpu; and IMO that is a great price - but I'm gonna wait until the refresh or until the price on the 5870 goes down.
                                                  Cool, hopefully by xmas it becomes a little bit cheaper as supply increases. Though it's going to be very hard for Nvidia to beat £300 with the same performance.

                                                  At least this way it gives me a excuse to mess around with his PC once I put the ATI card in.
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                                                    Originally posted by DSV-UltraGL View Post
                                                    ok people, we are all here to enjoy discussing the 5870 review's lets not start a flame war!
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                                                      Originally posted by DSV-UltraGL View Post
                                                      ON TOPIC: been reading all day, any CrossfireX (4x 4870/90 -2x4870X2) vs 5870(single/CF) spotted? everybody is measuring AA scaling but didnt find any XFire scaling..yet (ooo dark man of the "cave", you reading this?! )



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                                                        Originally posted by SirBaron View Post

                                                        I wonder what's taking displayport so long anyway, before LCD's where DVI/VGa now most are just DVI.

                                                        So where are the DVI/Displayport monitors?
                                                        DP have been around for sometime, but connector standards tend to stick around, heck there is still mobo's with PS/2 connectors! besides let aside DVI, there are still gfx cards with VGA output (like mine...fail)

                                                        Generally, market momentum is nothing to take on with cut-throat i-wont-support-you-anymore decisions

                                                        Originally posted by SirBaron View Post

                                                        But still no one has answered my question. A whole page and no one knows what the price of the top top end ATI card is?

                                                        What's different about the highest end ATI card anyway? More clock/Memory speed?

                                                        If it just ends up being more clock clock/memory I may just get him this card. Anything is better than the ****ty 9800GX2 card, man that card is a pos
                                                        highest 5870 isnt just more MHz, its 1600 Shaders vs 1440 on the 5850, although still the 5850 should be a good upgrade.
                                                        beside the highest isnt out yet, we should see the 2GB versions coming out too! (propably with 5.5Ghz RAM [H]heck the thing was released less than 24hours ago!! so all i can say is wait a little bit!
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                                                        NVIDIA's VP of Product Marketing, Ujesh Desai on late GT300:
                                                        because designing GPUs this big is f***ing hard
                                                        Salvation haven't been so easy.

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                                                          Originally posted by SirBaron View Post

                                                          So where are the DVI/Displayport monitors?
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                                                            Originally posted by vertex_shader View Post
                                                            Vrooooom vrooooom
                                                            lol @ marketing people, sometimes i think i shouldn't have gone through computer engineering hell and went on with a marketing/any "business" career, those people make money out of the "obvious" lol, isnt every other (ok atleast 90&#37 5870 comming up with a Dirt2 coupon?

                                                            Originally posted by jam2k View Post
                                                            thanks! missed that one, but still no 5870 vs CrossfireX or Tri/Quad SLI, and separate articles wont cut it as i don't want to "interpolate" different test beds, importance of this that we can have a taste of 5870X2 vs GT300 (or GT300 GX2 variant)...i just cant wait!!

                                                            Originally posted by Kombatant View Post
                                                            This. I am watching
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                                                            NVIDIA's VP of Product Marketing, Ujesh Desai on late GT300:
                                                            because designing GPUs this big is f***ing hard
                                                            Salvation haven't been so easy.

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                                                              I'm so happy ATI is once again better than nVidia! I've had to stay in nvnews since the 8 series GPU's came out!

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                                                                Originally posted by SirBaron View Post
                                                                But still no one has answered my question. A whole page and no one knows what the price of the top top end ATI card is?

                                                                What's different about the highest end ATI card anyway? More clock/Memory speed?

                                                                If it just ends up being more clock clock/memory I may just get him this card.
                                                                The current top end is the 5870 which has an MSRP of $379. The as yet unreleased actual high end is the "Hemlock" Dual GPU which is going to be under $500. It's not known yet if the cores used are going to be two of the 5870 die's or if it'll be 5850's.

                                                                The difference then will be crossfire on a stick, like current X2 cards.

                                                                Driver support for single cards and crossfire sticks will be important.

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                                                                  I wonder if the 5870 is bandwidth starved ?

                                                                  BTW:


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                                                                    Originally posted by jam2k View Post
                                                                    I wonder if the 5870 is bandwidth starved ?
                                                                    :
                                                                    I would say so from what I have seen. At least more so then anything else.

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                                                                      Originally posted by vgame64 View Post
                                                                      I'm so happy ATI is once again better than nVidia! I've had to stay in nvnews since the 8 series GPU's came out!
                                                                      holy smoke!!! how did survive overthere?
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                                                                      NVIDIA's VP of Product Marketing, Ujesh Desai on late GT300:
                                                                      because designing GPUs this big is f***ing hard
                                                                      Salvation haven't been so easy.

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                                                                        Originally posted by Corum Jhaelen Irsei View Post
                                                                        Your right, 750 is closer to the truth.

                                                                        next time get a life, you don't know what I'm talking about, I'm not impressed because its only 25-30% faster then a gt 285, I expected more because of the ATi's slides, hmm yeah with AA and AF that is impressive but with the increased bandwith, thats expected at higher settings it will pull awayfrom previous gens, so what we see is old games that don't really push the shader power of this card? But I expected 70% + over previous generations of cards, nV is late, if they aren't later then December, they will take the performance crown and they don't need to worry about loosing ground, of course unless they fu*k up like the r600.


                                                                        Originally posted by silent_guy
                                                                        What exactly do you think would happen if you *did* connect a large load? The arrival of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse?
                                                                        Originally posted by Charlie
                                                                        Contrast that with the GT300 approach. There is no dedicated tesselator, and if you use that DX11 feature, it will take large amounts of shader time, used inefficiently as is the case with general purpose hardware. You will then need the same shaders again to render the triangles. 250K to 1 Million triangles on the GT300 should be notably slower than straight 1 Million triangles.
                                                                        http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1137331/a-look-nvidia-gt300-architecture

                                                                        Originally posted by Corum Jhaelen Irsei
                                                                        and you tell me I am in for a suprise? It is the FX; Late, hot, needing insane clock rates for its size. You have yet to show even one of my posts wrong.

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                                                                          Originally posted by Sound_Card View Post
                                                                          I would say so from what I have seen. At least more so then anything else.

                                                                          Hmm interesting because it pulls away when AA and AF are set higher it does bettter.


                                                                          Originally posted by silent_guy
                                                                          What exactly do you think would happen if you *did* connect a large load? The arrival of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse?
                                                                          Originally posted by Charlie
                                                                          Contrast that with the GT300 approach. There is no dedicated tesselator, and if you use that DX11 feature, it will take large amounts of shader time, used inefficiently as is the case with general purpose hardware. You will then need the same shaders again to render the triangles. 250K to 1 Million triangles on the GT300 should be notably slower than straight 1 Million triangles.
                                                                          http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1137331/a-look-nvidia-gt300-architecture

                                                                          Originally posted by Corum Jhaelen Irsei
                                                                          and you tell me I am in for a suprise? It is the FX; Late, hot, needing insane clock rates for its size. You have yet to show even one of my posts wrong.

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                                                                            Originally posted by DSV-UltraGL View Post
                                                                            holy smoke!!! how did survive overthere?
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                                                                              Originally posted by razor1 View Post
                                                                              next time get a life, you don't know what I'm talking about, I'm not impressed because its only 25-30% faster then a gt 285, I expected more because of the ATi's slides, hmm yeah with AA and AF that is impressive but with the increased bandwith, thats expected at higher settings it will pull awayfrom previous gens, so what we see is old games that don't really push the shader power of this card? But I expected 70% + over previous generations of cards, nV is late, if they aren't later then December, they will take the performance crown and they don't need to worry about loosing ground, of course unless they fu*k up like the r600.
                                                                              You were impressed when the 280 came out though, and it did not beat the last gens dual card. Your hypocrisy is showing. Nv will not have the crown, because when they release their very hot and very late card, ati will release the x2.

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                                                                                I'm disappointed, even the Rage3D review failed to test SSAA on games that can't do AA at all.
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                                                                                  Originally posted by Destroy View Post
                                                                                  I'm disappointed, even the Rage3D review failed to test SSAA on games that can't do AA at all.
                                                                                  The Rage3D Preview highlighted some common titles. I'll look at investigating more in those titles as part of follow articles - thanks for the tip.

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