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Originally posted by SirBaron View Post8800 GTX in SLI came with the system it was prebuilt and 280GTX in SLI, but what's that got to do with anything?
I was wondering on the price of their top top end cards, just because I have bought expensive in the past doesn't mean I intend to carry on that trend.ok w/e. Carry on.
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Originally posted by jam2k View PostThere are some odd results with Crossfire (Not scaling like it should).
Drivers need to be polished I guess ?just look on the 4870 vs GTX280 when it was out and now! wait up for the CATALYST team to make thier homework
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NVIDIA's VP of Product Marketing, Ujesh Desai on late GT300:because designing GPUs this big is f***ing hard
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Originally posted by SirBaron View Post
Now I remember why I don't visit this section.
Sorry man, calling it like it is. Why don't you just come out in the open about your bias instead of pretending to be objective.
I'll bet that you will buy the next NV GPU regardless, claim your reasons, then that would be the last we all hear from you in this section anyway (until the next round of GPU's ). Carry on.
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Originally posted by Sound_Card View PostQuite frankly, that means jack to me.
Sorry man, calling it like it is. Why don't you just come out in the open about your bias instead of pretending to be objective.
I'll bet that you will buy the next NV GPU regardless, claim your reasons, then that would be the last we all hear from you in this section anyway. Carry on.
I like ATI cards, and still consider the 9800pro to be one of the best cards I ever owned. But currently Nvidia gives me the features I want, profiles/and 3D vision.
Yes I am going to buy Nvidia next? why? Because I use 3D vision, which despite Nvidia's aggressive business tactics, and seeing as the only other solution for 3D on ATI is IZ3D which isn't sold outside of the US I'm pretty much screwed.
I couldn't give a rats ass if you think I'm biased or not, the only reason I was interested in ATI was because I'm gunna buy my dad a new GPU for xmas to replace that ****ty Geforce 9800x2 he has in his PC, and ATI will probably offer the most bang for buck providing they carry on the trend of the 4xxx series.
The only reason I don't post in the ATI section is because fanboys like you piss me off more than any other type of person out there.Fantards the scourge of the universe:
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Originally posted by SirBaron View PostYes I am going to buy Nvidia next? why? Because I use 3D vision, which despite Nvidia's aggressive business tactics, and seeing as the only other solution for 3D on ATI is IZ3D which isn't sold outside of the US I'm pretty much screwed.New system specs:
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Originally posted by AMD_G@y View Postso in essence you've already made up your mind .. why again are you here then ?
Originally posted by SirBaron View PostI was interested in ATI was because I'm gunna buy my dad a new GPU for xmas to replace that ****ty Geforce 9800x2 he has in his PC, and ATI will probably offer the most bang for buck providing they carry on the trend of the 4xxx series.Love take me down to the streets - Wings
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Originally posted by Sound_Card View PostDid I say you?
Was not directing at you.Love take me down to the streets - Wings
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Originally posted by Sound_Card View PostDid I say you?
Was not directing at you.
Yes we know you love ATI and hate Nvidia.
But still no one has answered my question. A whole page and no one knows what the price of the top top end ATI card is?
What's different about the highest end ATI card anyway? More clock/Memory speed?
If it just ends up being more clock clock/memory I may just get him this card. Anything is better than the ****ty 9800GX2 card, man that card is a posFantards the scourge of the universe:
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Originally posted by Sound_Card View PostDon't see you around here that much Mabran...I flip between PC and console and I'm on a big PC run the past 6 months and have been doing upgrades as my machines were going on 4 years old.
I'm back in the PC realm now as consoles while I still play my 360 they have turned more into media streamers than game machines and a crossfire 4890 is too sweet not to playsystem spec: DA-GOODS
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Originally posted by SirBaron View PostIs that the highest end Single GPU from ATI?
Here it's on preorder for £300 which is actually a pretty decent price for the performance.Love take me down to the streets - Wings
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ok people, we are all here to enjoy discussing the 5870 review's lets not start a flame war!
ON TOPIC: been reading all day, any CrossfireX (4x 4870/90 -2x4870X2) vs 5870(single/CF) spotted? everybody is measuring AA scaling but didnt find any XFire scaling..yet (ooo dark man of the "cave", you reading this?!)
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Originally posted by curio View PostYeah, the 5870 is currently the fastest single gpu; and IMO that is a great price - but I'm gonna wait until the refresh or until the price on the 5870 goes down.
At least this way it gives me a excuse to mess around with his PC once I put the ATI card in.Fantards the scourge of the universe:
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Originally posted by SirBaron View Post
I wonder what's taking displayport so long anyway, before LCD's where DVI/VGa now most are just DVI.
So where are the DVI/Displayport monitors?
Generally, market momentum is nothing to take on with cut-throat i-wont-support-you-anymore decisions
Originally posted by SirBaron View Post
But still no one has answered my question. A whole page and no one knows what the price of the top top end ATI card is?
What's different about the highest end ATI card anyway? More clock/Memory speed?
If it just ends up being more clock clock/memory I may just get him this card. Anything is better than the ****ty 9800GX2 card, man that card is a pos
beside the highest isnt out yet, we should see the 2GB versions coming out too! (propably with 5.5Ghz RAM [H]heck the thing was released less than 24hours ago!! so all i can say is wait a little bit!Core i7 3770K Stock|}{| 16GB RipjawsZ |}{| Gigabyte Z77-UD5H |}{| 500GB WD5000AAKS + 500GB ST3500418AS |}{| [ASUS EAH6970 ] }{| LG 22X DVD-RW|}{|] Corsair HX850 |}{|CoolerMaster HAF932|}{| Samsung T260HD |}{| Fanatec 911TurboS |}{| Logitech G500 |}{| Logitech X-540 |}{| 'Genuine' Win7 x64
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NVIDIA's VP of Product Marketing, Ujesh Desai on late GT300:because designing GPUs this big is f***ing hard
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Originally posted by SirBaron View Post
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Originally posted by vertex_shader View PostVrooooom vrooooom
5870 comming up with a Dirt2 coupon?
thanks! missed that one, but still no 5870 vs CrossfireX or Tri/Quad SLI, and separate articles wont cut it as i don't want to "interpolate" different test beds, importance of this that we can have a taste of 5870X2 vs GT300 (or GT300 GX2 variant)...i just cant wait!!
Originally posted by Kombatant View PostThis. I am watchingLast edited by DSV-UltraGL; Sep 23, 2009, 01:57 PM.Core i7 3770K Stock|}{| 16GB RipjawsZ |}{| Gigabyte Z77-UD5H |}{| 500GB WD5000AAKS + 500GB ST3500418AS |}{| [ASUS EAH6970 ] }{| LG 22X DVD-RW|}{|] Corsair HX850 |}{|CoolerMaster HAF932|}{| Samsung T260HD |}{| Fanatec 911TurboS |}{| Logitech G500 |}{| Logitech X-540 |}{| 'Genuine' Win7 x64
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NVIDIA's VP of Product Marketing, Ujesh Desai on late GT300:because designing GPUs this big is f***ing hard
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Originally posted by SirBaron View PostBut still no one has answered my question. A whole page and no one knows what the price of the top top end ATI card is?
What's different about the highest end ATI card anyway? More clock/Memory speed?
If it just ends up being more clock clock/memory I may just get him this card.
The difference then will be crossfire on a stick, like current X2 cards.
Driver support for single cards and crossfire sticks will be important.
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Originally posted by vgame64 View PostI'm so happy ATI is once again better than nVidia! I've had to stay in nvnews since the 8 series GPU's came out!Core i7 3770K Stock|}{| 16GB RipjawsZ |}{| Gigabyte Z77-UD5H |}{| 500GB WD5000AAKS + 500GB ST3500418AS |}{| [ASUS EAH6970 ] }{| LG 22X DVD-RW|}{|] Corsair HX850 |}{|CoolerMaster HAF932|}{| Samsung T260HD |}{| Fanatec 911TurboS |}{| Logitech G500 |}{| Logitech X-540 |}{| 'Genuine' Win7 x64
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NVIDIA's VP of Product Marketing, Ujesh Desai on late GT300:because designing GPUs this big is f***ing hard
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Originally posted by Corum Jhaelen Irsei View PostYour right, 750 is closer to the truth.
next time get a life, you don't know what I'm talking about, I'm not impressed because its only 25-30% faster then a gt 285, I expected more because of the ATi's slides, hmm yeah with AA and AF that is impressive but with the increased bandwith, thats expected at higher settings it will pull awayfrom previous gens, so what we see is old games that don't really push the shader power of this card? But I expected 70% + over previous generations of cards, nV is late, if they aren't later then December, they will take the performance crown and they don't need to worry about loosing ground, of course unless they fu*k up like the r600.
Originally posted by silent_guyWhat exactly do you think would happen if you *did* connect a large load? The arrival of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse?Originally posted by CharlieContrast that with the GT300 approach. There is no dedicated tesselator, and if you use that DX11 feature, it will take large amounts of shader time, used inefficiently as is the case with general purpose hardware. You will then need the same shaders again to render the triangles. 250K to 1 Million triangles on the GT300 should be notably slower than straight 1 Million triangles.
Originally posted by Corum Jhaelen Irseiand you tell me I am in for a suprise? It is the FX; Late, hot, needing insane clock rates for its size. You have yet to show even one of my posts wrong.
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Originally posted by Sound_Card View PostI would say so from what I have seen. At least more so then anything else.
Hmm interesting because it pulls away when AA and AF are set higher it does bettter.
Originally posted by silent_guyWhat exactly do you think would happen if you *did* connect a large load? The arrival of the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse?Originally posted by CharlieContrast that with the GT300 approach. There is no dedicated tesselator, and if you use that DX11 feature, it will take large amounts of shader time, used inefficiently as is the case with general purpose hardware. You will then need the same shaders again to render the triangles. 250K to 1 Million triangles on the GT300 should be notably slower than straight 1 Million triangles.
Originally posted by Corum Jhaelen Irseiand you tell me I am in for a suprise? It is the FX; Late, hot, needing insane clock rates for its size. You have yet to show even one of my posts wrong.
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Originally posted by DSV-UltraGL View Postholy smoke!!! how did survive overthere?Originally posted by John C FlettI'd swear the PC is the Dracula of gaming. Old and powerful, somebody is always trying to kill it, but it always comes back from the dead, strong as ever.Originally posted by H001iGANno matter how you look at it, it's still better on PC
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Originally posted by razor1 View Postnext time get a life, you don't know what I'm talking about, I'm not impressed because its only 25-30% faster then a gt 285, I expected more because of the ATi's slides, hmm yeah with AA and AF that is impressive but with the increased bandwith, thats expected at higher settings it will pull awayfrom previous gens, so what we see is old games that don't really push the shader power of this card? But I expected 70% + over previous generations of cards, nV is late, if they aren't later then December, they will take the performance crown and they don't need to worry about loosing ground, of course unless they fu*k up like the r600.
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I'm disappointed, even the Rage3D review failed to test SSAA on games that can't do AA at all.Last edited by Destroy; Sep 23, 2009, 08:08 PM.Member of the Glorious PC Gaming Master Race-"Doesn't any game maker know how to make a PC feeling game anymore? I hate all this console afterbirth crap we're getting lately."
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Originally posted by Destroy View PostI'm disappointed, even the Rage3D review failed to test SSAA on games that can't do AA at all.
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