New problem in GTA3...???

[Volvoxx]

Okay...I want to start off by saying Rockstar ought to have made sure their games are at least of a reasonable quality before releasing to the public. This is very irresponsible of them for releasing such poorly built software to the public!!!

Anyway, I had a successful 'installation' of GTA3 in my system. However...when I tried to start the game, it shows me the startup screen with a message saying it is converting the textures to an optimal format for my video card. Right...thats normal, except that it does nothing else after that. It just hangs my system to a point that Ctrl-Alt-Del does not work at all!

Upon rebooting, a diaglog box asking me to send error message appears. Apparently...my Radeon has problem with generating the graphics and I should download newer drivers. HELL...I AM using the newest drivers and I have great framerates in CS, so what could be the problem??

[Sniper|3d-R|]

Re: New problem in GTA3...???

Originally posted by Volvoxx
Okay...I want to start off by saying Rockstar ought to have made sure their games are at least of a reasonable quality before releasing to the public. This is very irresponsible of them for releasing such poorly built software to the public!!!

I would have to disagree with you here. . . I know a lot of people including myself that had NO problems with the game when it was installed. It seems to be the people with older video cards with bad drivers, or just general problems with there computers from the start.

Some have even said that GTA3 would not work on an Athlon based system, well of course that is clearly wrong because myself and a lot of other people have Athlon based system and the game runs just fine!

I think they did a GREAT job with the game! So far its flawless for me, and a lot of other people, so by you saying that “Rockstar ought to have made sure their games are at least of a reasonable quality” You should maybe look at your system (seems really good except for the Intel, and the rdram ) And evaluate it and see if it at least meets standards. A game developer can’t always get a game to work perfect on every system because there are so many variables when it comes to building a computer. Sometimes a small driver, or hardware compatibility can screw things up and cause the game to not run. .

My suggestions are to start reading the official forums (if you have not already) and ask around (if you have not already) for help from others and how you can fix the problem. . . Download and install any ATI fix, patch etc and see if those help. I’m not on top of things and troubleshooting when it comes to ATI, but this is the place to ask!

Good Luck to Ya!

[Mike G]

you wanna see some rushed, poorly tested, poorly built software?

go spend the $30 on a game called Superpower. they already released a patch, but there's still a SHITLOAD of bugs.

it's still an awesome game though....you get used to the crashes.



anyway, that sucks that you cant get gta3 running man...try disabling the W-Buffer support in the D3D tab in the display properties.

[kakarot]

Sniper|3d-R| how can you tell that dude that his system is good EXCEPT for his 2GHz P4/RDRAM. That is bull, and the game was rushed and is of crappy quality. Have you seen all the people having problems? The game runs good for 5 out of 100 people who bought it. If you call that a well made game then you have issues that no one here can solve.

[Sniper|3d-R|]

Originally posted by kakarot
Sniper|3d-R| how can you tell that dude that his system is good EXCEPT for his 2GHz P4/RDRAM. That is bull, and the game was rushed and is of crappy quality. Have you seen all the people having problems? The game runs good for 5 out of 100 people who bought it. If you call that a well made game then you have issues that no one here can solve.

Of course I was joking about the P4 and the ram

I’m an AMD fan of course, and it was like a little joke.. haha . . .

For me and a lot of others that I know had had nothing but success for the game. Not problems at all . . Please don’t ***** to me that the game runs poorly on a pos mobo, vid card etc. Sometimes people just aren’t very power users and they do more harm to there comp than good, thus making there system, games programs etc run like crap due to there poor level of experience and troubleshooting skills. . .

I’m only speaking out of what I have seen, and that so far is that people with bad video cards(older generations) are having problems.. . And then to add to that, people with outdated, un-patched systems are also having probs.

Too me the game has been fine from the start. I have seen no big bigs that are a concern to me. . . There is always the texture flaws, and in game bugs but so far it’s smooth . . .

Your system is as only fast, and good as your slowest or worst component.

[GotoDengo]

Originally posted by Sniper|3d-R|


Of course I was joking about the P4 and the ram

I’m an AMD fan of course, and it was like a little joke.. haha . . .

For me and a lot of others that I know had had nothing but success for the game. Not problems at all

<lots of rubbish snipped>

You obviously haven't been reading very closely, then, as you couldn't be more wrong. The problems have nothing to do with the level of expertise of the user, the power of any of the system components, etc. The game is highly flawed. You're simply fortunate that you have not been affected. Your success does not reflect positively on your "skillz", your hardware, or anything else. You are lucky; that is all.

In the future, please try to avoid posts that manifest the kind of ignorance you've demonstrated here.

Thank you.

Goto Dengo

[kakarot]

Sniper|3d-R| I didn't realize what you meant, that's my bad.
As for the game, when you pay $50.00 you should not have to change 30 different setting on your PC just to get the game to run at 20fps. I hope that take2 realizes that there is more than one computer config out there.

[Sniper|3d-R|]

Originally posted by GotoDengo
[B]Some ass babble. . .[B]

Tried to be nice, but **** suckers like you ruin it for me. . .

What I’m I wrong about Mr. know it all? The fact that others have had the same success as me, or the fact that a game can run poorly when a system has not been updated, or “configured correctly” You must still be on AOL . . excuses me for your ignorance and stubbornness.

What have I not followed very closely? The fact that there are bugs in every game and that I’m running GTA3 flawlessly?

You do know that updates to your system can improve overall performance of any game whether the flaw is in the game, or on a system? Wait, you probably would not know your head from your ass so why do I still try and explain something to you that will go in one ear and out the other . . .. You seem like that type that has his head up so far your ass you don’t care what other people say or there expertise in a particular area, you just know that your right and that’s the end of the story.

I have nothing more to say to you . . Please move along sir!


Kakarot:

It’s all good man!

I totally agree with you! It really pisses me off when you dish out $50 or so on a game that you expect to play when you get home, but they you realize that the game won’t ever run because of flaws within the game. You would expect more from a gaming company that creates games to make money to know what the fuk they are doing instead of releasing something that runs on ¼ of the systems. For me I got lucky, but for others have not had as good of luck as me.

I have beta tested a few games, and the only way to improve the game us user feedback!! This is how games get patches and other info from the dev teams.

Good luck to you if you still have problems!

[JasonQG]

This thread could be a bit more productive, guys. Let's try to concentrate on helping each other instead of criticizing.

[Volvoxx]

People...I really appreciate everyone that posted here in this thread but lets not fight over a petty comment. I thank GotoDengo for posting his reply but then I guess Sniper|3d-R| only meant what he said as a joke (and he did tried to help), its okay cos Intel and AMD fans has always been fighting ever since I can remember! :-)

Alright..back to what I came here for. Before I posted the message, I forgot to mention that I had already tried one patch that changes a data file (its a .dat file called timecyc). Well it still does not work at all. I have yet to try the no-CD crack but I doubt it helps since its not the slowness of the game that I am having trouble with but on the game not being able to start at all.

I tried setting the draw distance to the minimum and switching off all other settings like anisotropic filter and anti-aliasing. Tried to run the game in 1024 x 768 at 32bit but it still does not work. Somebody mentioned about setting the system colour settings to 16bit colour instead of 32bit. Tried that...what next? The problem remains....I am getting desperate. Help wanted...please.

[bdf24]

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Originally posted by GotoDengo
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Originally posted by Sniper|3d-R|


Tried to be nice, but **** suckers like you ruin it for me. . .

What I’m I wrong about Mr. know it all? The fact that others have had the same success as me, or the fact that a game can run poorly when a system has not been updated, or “configured correctly” You must still be on AOL . . excuses me for your ignorance and stubbornness.

What have I not followed very closely? The fact that there are bugs in every game and that I’m running GTA3 flawlessly?

You do know that updates to your system can improve overall performance of any game whether the flaw is in the game, or on a system? Wait, you probably would not know your head from your ass so why do I still try and explain something to you that will go in one ear and out the other . . .. You seem like that type that has his head up so far your ass you don’t care what other people say or there expertise in a particular area, you just know that your right and that’s the end of the story.

I have nothing more to say to you . . Please move along sir!

I'm sorry but it's people like you that cause other's to stop coming to forum's like this. You could be ALOT more civilized. And have a little more respect then this! What does sarcasm, and flaming accomplish? NOTHING! That's what. Everyone's system is different. Some will have no trouble's at all. And other's will. It could be software, And it could be hardware. But unless your right there looking at his system, experimenting with it. You have no ground's IMO to assume it's all his system and he does'nt know how to configure or run it.
I thought we were all here to help each other out. Not to accuse and flame.

[James Crivellone]

Originally posted by bdf24
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Originally posted by GotoDengo
[B]Some ass babble. . .
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I'm sorry but it's people like you that cause other's to stop coming to forum's like this. You could be ALOT more civilized. And have a little more respect then this! What does sarcasm, and flaming accomplish? NOTHING! That's what. Everyone's system is different. Some will have no trouble's at all. And other's will. It could be software, And it could be hardware. But unless your right there looking at his system, experimenting with it. You have no ground's IMO to assume it's all his system and he does'nt know how to configure or run it.
I thought we were all here to help each other out. Not to accuse and flame.

we are dropping this right here,

next person to go off track in this thread is Instabanned, no excuses. You guys had a direct order from a mod to get back on track, and then u posted this. So I give u one more chance, my rules are above, and this applies to ANYBODY, one more flame/whatever, I don't give a damn, ur banned.

Good, nice to know we have an understanding here, if u have any problems PM me.

[kakarot]

Sorry guys, I should of known better
To volvoxx, have you tried doing what's on this page? Give a look and see if there is something you haven't tried. http://www.ipfreelytech.net/gta3fix/ Also why don't you try a different driver set for your card?

[Sniper|3d-R|]

bdf24;

Can you please point out where I was assuming it's all his system and he does not know how to configure or run it? I was saying this in a general sense that this "could" be a cuase, but not directing it to anyone on the boards. . . .

Sry if you missunderstood me. . .

Origional Poster:

Lets see.. What have you tried so far?

What are the specs of your system?

What vid drivers are you using?

[marqmajere]

Sniper |3d-R|:
It doesn't matter what kind of point you bring up in reference to a topic. I could say: "Water is wet. I turn on the faucet and stick my hand under it and my hand would get wet. Why does my hand get wet? Because of the WET water." There would be at least ONE person out there that would disagree with that statement and post a comment such as: "Nu-uh. You dumb. Where did you get that crock of ****? Read the facts before saying that junk, you moron."

As for GTA 3, I have no problems running it on my system. As does Morrowind. However, MOHAA does not want to run. It just hangs at the first EA screen untill I have to CTRL-ALT-DELETE it out of existance. I have the latest updates and drivers for my system and I even have the patch for MOHAA. This is the first time Ive had a problem with a game on this system. Why does GTA 3 run and MOHAA not? That could be one of a hundred settings.

Do I blame EA Games for making a crappy, bug filled game? No. I simply understand that software creaters cannot cater to every computer config.

Marqus

[James Crivellone]

Originally posted by marqmajere
Sniper |3d-R|:
It doesn't matter what kind of point you bring up in reference to a topic. I could say: "Water is wet. I turn on the faucet and stick my hand under it and my hand would get wet. Why does my hand get wet? Because of the WET water." There would be at least ONE person out there that would disagree with that statement and post a comment such as: "Nu-uh. You dumb. Where did you get that crock of ****? Read the facts before saying that junk, you moron."

just don't get it do we, I said dropit.

Enjoy your 10 day vacation.

I suggest u email me.

[Sonic7]

And just how was I supposed to e-mail you when you banned my account and I couldn't read the last post? I finally had to log out thinking that the board was down but to my pleasure, James Crivellone had done away with that account.

Marqus