Elden Ring: New Fromsoft rpg

[Meteor_of_War]

I am so very happy for him

I honestly don’t know how to answer that other than that. She took me a total of about 20 runs. Now she’s dead and I have a burning hatred in my heart that wasn’t there before we tango’ed

This one is insane, bow only on first attempt. If nothing else just watch the final 30 seconds before the kill shot. To remain calm like that is something I cannot do.

[yt]UrZMeAs9O-8[/yt]

Eh, I appreciate the vote of confidence but honestly my current Soul Level is more of a reflection on me self-handicapping the game to get by. I'm not exactly an amazing Souls gamer. I mean, Bed of Chaos was a ****ing brick wall for me and it's not like things have gotten better since then. I have hundreds and hundreds of hours in these games but I'd describe myself as ****ing adequate at best.

Even at this level, while I'd say it's "easier" it's certainly no cakewalk. Coming from a Quality build, my fragile little snow witch takes way more damage. Just a bit ago I remembered that I didn't clear out War-dead Catacombs' boss and revisited it. Only to die maybe 5 times to that ****er's room filling AOE. He was basically 2 shotting me.

But also I was playing with my new Comet Azur KAMEHAMEHA WAVE ability so some of those deaths were self inflicted pretty much.

Then I remembered to invite Tiche to the party and well it got easier after that.

Bed of Chaos was just a poor poor designed boss. Didn't matter how much skill you had, it was going to give you trouble until you learned the exact trick to get past it. Not really a good measure of skill IMO.

I understand though. Hey, these games are hard. No getting around that. I think we all struggle with them. But its for that feeling of accomplishment from the initial seemingly insurmountable difficulty, to the strike of victory after learning from mistakes and building our strats. No shame at all in over leveling, or using cheese tactics, or whatever. Anything it takes to get the win (aside from cheat engine of course).

[Meteor_of_War]

I am so very happy for him

I honestly don’t know how to answer that other than that. She took me a total of about 20 runs. Now she’s dead and I have a burning hatred in my heart that wasn’t there before we tango’ed

We've all been there. If it makes you feel any better I don't even plan to try that fight.

I've had my fill of the game and don't need the added stress lol.

[theshadowcult]

To remain calm like that is something I cannot do.

I think our definitions of calm are some what different

[Meteor_of_War]

I think our definitions of calm are some what different

Well, he was screaming at the TV but his gameplay remained cool, calm, and collected.

[Lazy8s]

We've all been there. If it makes you feel any better I don't even plan to try that fight.

I've had my fill of the game and don't need the added stress lol.

I don’t know why I do it to myself I did see LobosJr take it on with just a bow. He’s insanely good. Scrubs like me just have to hack away until we get it

[Meteor_of_War]

I don?t know why I do it to myself I did see LobosJr take it on with just a bow. He?s insanely good. Scrubs like me just have to hack away until we get it

I have to admit it is a little discouraging watching players like him that are at a level of skill and experience I'll never get to. But i know its because they literally do nothing else but practice. He is super methodical at learning boss strategies. I think he said he spent 14 hours learning the Melania fight. That is just nuts to me. But it explains his skill.

If its still fun keep playing. When it's not fun anymore put it down. I think that's a good way to go about it. I got to the point where i got all the fun i wanted out of it. There's a handful of areas and bosses i could still do. Just don't have the motivation right now. I'm leaving it installed though, and will likely want to tackle the rest of it at some point.

[Lazy8s]

I have to admit it is a little discouraging watching players like him that are at a level of skill and experience I'll never get to. But i know its because they literally do nothing else but practice. He is super methodical at learning boss strategies. I think he said he spent 14 hours learning the Melania fight. That is just nuts to me. But it explains his skill.

If its still fun keep playing. When it's not fun anymore put it down. I think that's a good way to go about it. I got to the point where i got all the fun i wanted out of it. There's a handful of areas and bosses i could still do. Just don't have the motivation right now. I'm leaving it installed though, and will likely want to tackle the rest of it at some point.

Yeah I just don’t have the patience to tackle bosses the way he does lol.

I fired the game up this morning and windows/steam wouldn’t recognize my controller…got that sorted out, but windows also disabled HDR again and….I just want it to work when I want to play, not troubleshoot.

I thought I hit my ‘quit’ point, but I didn’t. I have to admit a sick, masochistic little part of me is still having fun

[koralis]

Just died many many times trying to take a leap of faith, indiana jones style, and that's even WITH scattering pebbles. Wow.

[Lazy8s]

Just died many many times trying to take a leap of faith, indiana jones style, and that's even WITH scattering pebbles. Wow.

Hidden path to the Haligtree?

[Lazy8s]

So I went back to a NG+ build, just because. There aren’t any other games out there I want to play at the moment, so I’m sticking with this and just going to jack this build up through the roof.

It’ll be interesting to see the difference between NG bosses, and facing them with leveled builds and weapons. I just have to unlock the ability to respec again and then I can start really experimenting from there.

[koralis]

Hidden path to the Haligtree?

Hidden path to a tower over a chasm. Forget the name offhand. Sorcery at the end of it

[Meteor_of_War]

Yeah I just don’t have the patience to tackle bosses the way he does lol.

I fired the game up this morning and windows/steam wouldn’t recognize my controller…got that sorted out, but windows also disabled HDR again and….I just want it to work when I want to play, not troubleshoot.

I thought I hit my ‘quit’ point, but I didn’t. I have to admit a sick, masochistic little part of me is still having fun

Technically the game on PC is finicky for sure. I have had my share of weird glitches.

Early on in my playthrough I just said screw it and disabled HDR, because I was having some strange display issues when loading up or quitting the game with it enabled. I still get black screen problems, but it will always eventually come out of it within a minute. But when I was using HDR enabled it would sometimes never come out of the black screen. Had to mash combinations of ALT+TAB and CTRL+ALT+DELETE to fix it so I decided HDR was not worth the hassle. It honestly didn't make much visual improvement to me anyways.

[Lazy8s]

Technically the game on PC is finicky for sure. I have had my share of weird glitches.

Early on in my playthrough I just said screw it and disabled HDR, because I was having some strange display issues when loading up or quitting the game with it enabled. I still get black screen problems, but it will always eventually come out of it within a minute. But when I was using HDR enabled it would sometimes never come out of the black screen. Had to mash combinations of ALT+TAB and CTRL+ALT+DELETE to fix it so I decided HDR was not worth the hassle. It honestly didn't make much visual improvement to me anyways.

I have to have it after seeing the difference on the OLED lol. It’s pretty stunning. It doesn’t help that I got the PS5 version too, and the difference between the 2 is very noticeable if HDR is off on the PC. I’ll tinker with it later today..

You know, I wish there was a way to transfer saves between platforms. I know I saw something on the PS4 about that, I may look it up for the PS5. It’s probably very similar if it will work.

[Meteor_of_War]

I have to have it after seeing the difference on the OLED lol. It’s pretty stunning. It doesn’t help that I got the PS5 version too, and the difference between the 2 is very noticeable if HDR is off on the PC. I’ll tinker with it later today..

You know, I wish there was a way to transfer saves between platforms. I know I saw something on the PS4 about that, I may look it up for the PS5. It’s probably very similar if it will work.

I seriously doubt there's a way to transfer saves from PC version to PS4/PS5. Its a feature that would only benefit them though, right? People would be more inclined to buy multiple copies of their game.

But that sounds like something you'd need to mod your console with some jailbreak software to do.

[Lazy8s]

I seriously doubt there's a way to transfer saves from PC version to PS4/PS5. Its a feature that would only benefit them though, right? People would be more inclined to buy multiple copies of their game.

But that sounds like something you'd need to mod your console with some jailbreak software to do.

Probably. I’m not willing to do it. I just tried all the same things that worked for HDR last time I had the issue. Nope. Screw you Lazy8s says Win11.

No big deal, there’s worse things in the world to worry about

[shrike126]

This one is insane, bow only on first attempt. If nothing else just watch the final 30 seconds before the kill shot. To remain calm like that is something I cannot do.

[yt]UrZMeAs9O-8[/yt]

And I have never known defeat...

I'll link you the YouTube video! ... AHHH ****!

But seriously, watching him dodge through that instagib attack that drops him to like 1% every time, and then that thing where she blade dances and he just casually dives through it...

Bed of Chaos was just a poor poor designed boss. Didn't matter how much skill you had, it was going to give you trouble until you learned the exact trick to get past it. Not really a good measure of skill IMO.

I understand though. Hey, these games are hard. No getting around that. I think we all struggle with them. But its for that feeling of accomplishment from the initial seemingly insurmountable difficulty, to the strike of victory after learning from mistakes and building our strats. No shame at all in over leveling, or using cheese tactics, or whatever. Anything it takes to get the win (aside from cheat engine of course).

I do think though that being over leveled only gets you so far. I'm sure fights are a bit easier for me, but this **** is by no means a cakewalk. Even just going back and tackling a dungeon with a Putrid Tree Spirit that should've been a faceroll experience at level 150+ I died several times. Mostly to my own damned newbishness with the INT build. But also, the extra points make it easier but not that much easier.

If I had 99 pts in everything, I'd say this game is still twice as hard as AC:Valhalla or some other Ubisoft bullshit.

[Meteor_of_War]

I do think though that being over leveled only gets you so far. I'm sure fights are a bit easier for me, but this **** is by no means a cakewalk. Even just going back and tackling a dungeon with a Putrid Tree Spirit that should've been a faceroll experience at level 150+ I died several times. Mostly to my own damned newbishness with the INT build. But also, the extra points make it easier but not that much easier.

If I had 99 pts in everything, I'd say this game is still twice as hard as AC:Valhalla or some other Ubisoft bullshit.

That is true. At the end of the day no matter what level you are you still need to hit and avoid being hit, and do it competently. I will just repeat what I said before - If its still fun keep playing. When it's not fun anymore put it down.

Also, I just want to link this review I just watched. I actually have been checking out lots of user made content and reviews the past couple of days which I avoided until now, as a way to unwind from finishing my playthrough. This one is by far the best and most honest. He brings up a lot of good points about the good and bad of Elden Ring, especially his critiques on game balancing with the switch to open world design. It reveals the problems of not resorting to typical open world RPG tropes, like enemy level scaling. Although I would still prefer the way Elden Ring handles that compared to the Elder Scrolls games for example.

Pretty much all agreed and it was pretty enlightening to hear it all be put to words. Its a bit on the longer side for a review but was well worth the listen.

[yt]KdVsO9nBS6Q[/yt]

[mizzer]

Intentionally left for all to see:

So I just gave Nepheli a potion I received from someone else, she drank it and essentially passed out. From all accounts her quest is now done. Freaking heck!

Some strange tart gives you a potion, no dialogue prompts appear, no questions are asked and you just shoot the thing likes it's tequila?!

DON'T DO THIS if you want her to finish her quest line. Give the potion to her father instead.



I seriously might be done with this game rn.

[Mangler]

Intentionally left for all to see:

So I just gave Nepheli a potion I received from someone else, she drank it and essentially passed out. From all accounts her quest is now done. Freaking heck!

Some strange tart gives you a potion, no dialogue prompts appear, no questions are asked and you just shoot the thing likes it's tequila?!

DON'T DO THIS if you want her to finish her quest line. Give the potion to her father instead.



I seriously might be done with this game rn.

Better yet, give the potion to the dung eater.

[Meteor_of_War]

Intentionally left for all to see:

So I just gave Nepheli a potion I received from someone else, she drank it and essentially passed out. From all accounts her quest is now done. Freaking heck!

Some strange tart gives you a potion, no dialogue prompts appear, no questions are asked and you just shoot the thing likes it's tequila?!

DON'T DO THIS if you want her to finish her quest line. Give the potion to her father instead.



I seriously might be done with this game rn.

Meh, screw the quests in this game. Some of them really are nearly impossible to follow without a guide unless you endlessly explore and talk to every NPC after every major event you accomplish. Oh, AND be able to decipher their cryptic dialogue for clues pertaining to said quest lines.

If failed quests matter that much just use a guide for hints. But IMO I wouldn't worry too much about them. You don't even get a terribly unique reward from completing Nepheli's quest anyways.

[Lazy8s]

Better yet, give the potion to the dung eater.

this. But google the process >Dungeater summons. If you can still get it, it’s a monster

[theshadowcult]

Meh, screw the quests in this game. Some of them really are nearly impossible to follow without a guide unless you endlessly explore and talk to every NPC after every major event you accomplish. Oh, AND be able to decipher their cryptic dialogue for clues pertaining to said quest lines.

If failed quests matter that much just use a guide for hints. But IMO I wouldn't worry too much about them. You don't even get a terribly unique reward from completing Nepheli's quest anyways.

Thats half the point though. You are not meant to do everything the first time through. Its one of things that are great about the game, it harkens back to older games where you'd find new stuff everytime you played through the game.

[Meteor_of_War]

Thats half the point though. You are not meant to do everything the first time through. Its one of things that are great about the game, it harkens back to older games where you'd find new stuff everytime you played through the game.

I can appreciate that. I'm all for the player discovering things on their own, even if it means making mistakes and having to try again on successive playthroughs. Its great for players who have the time and plan to play the game over and over. That's not me though, and I'd be lying if I didn't say this kind of game design does not respect the player's time.

Also, I think I was a lot more tolerable of this sort of obtuse game design before Elden Ring when their games were literally 1/10th the size. Elden Ring has IMO made following quests nearly impossible without hints due to how large the world is. Which is a big reason why I am a proponent of the suggestion they add more quest following features to the game. No, does not have to go to the level of other RPGs, so they can keep their reputation of allowing player discovery. I'd just like to see more elements to keep track on NPC quest info that has already been discovered. They added NPC icons to the map which is a start, so I know they are capable of making the decision. I'm hoping they will progress that more in future games.

[Lazy8s]

Thats half the point though. You are not meant to do everything the first time through. Its one of things that are great about the game, it harkens back to older games where you'd find new stuff everytime you played through the game.

I can appreciate that. I'm all for the player discovering things on their own, even if it means making mistakes and having to try again on successive playthroughs. Its great for players who have the time and plan to play the game over and over. That's not me though, and I'd be lying if I didn't say this kind of game design does not respect the player's time.

Also, I think I was a lot more tolerable of this sort of obtuse game design before Elden Ring when their games were literally 1/10th the size. Elden Ring has IMO made following quests nearly impossible without hints due to how large the world is. Which is a big reason why I am a proponent of the suggestion they add more quest following features to the game. No, does not have to go to the level of other RPGs, so they can keep their reputation of allowing player discovery. I'd just like to see more elements to keep track on NPC quest info that has already been discovered. They added NPC icons to the map which is a start, so I know they are capable of making the decision. I'm hoping they will progress that more in future games.

To be completely honest about the quests, most are pretty simple, some more in depth, but one thing Fromsoft did right here is some, a decent amount of the quest rewards are really good stuff, unlike some other games that give you what amounts to a pat on the back for doing them.

It’s still a burden to follow them though. There’s so much content in this game that making quests a bit less troublesome to follow wouldn’t take away from the exploration and “figure it out” factor.

just my 2 cents.

[Lazy8s]

I fired up my NG+ build today and realized just how much I missed going into it like that. Talismans, spells, incantations etc. I felt really lackluster, so I went back to my blasphemous sword build (which is in end game also) and tweaked that up a bit.

I’m actually going to resort to Fextralife’s maps and google to cover as much as I can with this one. There are only 2 main story bosses left, so the world is wide open.

The only enemy in the game that’s killing me regularly now is gravity

That’s my main gripe right now. I hate platforming.

[Lazy8s]

I got the Sacred Relic Sword. It might be better than the Blasphemous Sword, depending on what damage hurts particular enemies the most.

Anyone farming Mohgwyn’s Palace is familiar with that first grace where they’re all sleeping…

The ash of war on this is Wave of Gold. It kills nearly the entire ledge worth of enemies with one attack

Thought I would toss that out there for anyone in endgame and not sure if they ought to clear the final boss or not. It’s his remembrance this comes from

edit: Confirmed: 1.4 million runes in 10 minutes using golden feet and the golden scarab. I love this thing

Not me, but...
https://youtu.be/jBxqiCiDKKQ

[Meteor_of_War]

edit: Confirmed: 1.4 million runes in 10 minutes using golden feet and the golden scarab. I love this thing

I saw this one few days ago and I think it might top that:

[yt]h5CUjC-UMwM[/yt]

[Lazy8s]

I saw this one few days ago and I think it might top that:

[yt]h5CUjC-UMwM[/yt]

I’ve seen that, but I killed that guy within the first half hour of this particular build.

[Meteor_of_War]

I?ve seen that, but I killed that guy within the first half hour of this particular build.

Ah, i was actually a little confused by that. I wasn't sure how the guy was farming it without permanently killing it.

Also funny, i have never even found that location.

[Lazy8s]

Ah, i was actually a little confused by that. I wasn't sure how the guy was farming it without permanently killing it.

Also funny, i have never even found that location.

I was doing my 2nd build at that time, so I knew there was a really potent talisman in that fort. Funny thing is, I didn’t even realize I was looking at a dragon the first time, he’s so huge

I was doing one of those OP within an hour of starting a new game builds and that comes in really handy. I had no idea you could hit the grace and do that after getting the death hit though. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if that weren’t patched out soon.

[Meteor_of_War]

Yeah, it seems unintended for that dragon to respawn given how many runes it drops.

I actually played a little this morning. After watching some gameplay videos over the past few days it was bothering me I never went through that prison town near Volcano Manor. So I cleared that out today. Also, found this game's gimmick boss there. Obviously an early game boss, but spoiler tag anyways - Rykard. Brought back memories of the Storm King boss from Demon's Souls. Felt cool using the Serpent-Hunter great spear. Was super easy at my level though. Nothing to it really just kept spamming the weapon art and it was done.

But after that there's just a few more areas to clear out (that I know of at least), which I will get to over time. I never really did everything in Caelid, didn't fully explore the Subterranean Shunning-Grounds, and I haven't even started the Haligtree or Mohgwyn areas.

This game has so much content. I view all this extra optional stuff like its built in DLC. Nice to know I can return to the game later and there's still new stuff to dive into.

[koralis]

Also, found this game's gimmick boss there. Obviously an early game boss, but spoiler tag anyways - Rykard. Brought back memories of the Storm King boss from Demon's Souls. Felt cool using the Serpent-Hunter great spear. Was super easy at my level though. Nothing to it really just kept spamming the weapon art and it was done.

Just finished that a few hours ago myself. If you thought that was easy, imagine using a mimic. . What larks!

[Lazy8s]

Yeah, it seems unintended for that dragon to respawn given how many runes it drops.

I actually played a little this morning. After watching some gameplay videos over the past few days it was bothering me I never went through that prison town near Volcano Manor. So I cleared that out today. Also, found this game's gimmick boss there. Obviously an early game boss, but spoiler tag anyways - Rykard. Brought back memories of the Storm King boss from Demon's Souls. Felt cool using the Serpent-Hunter great spear. Was super easy at my level though. Nothing to it really just kept spamming the weapon art and it was done.

But after that there's just a few more areas to clear out (that I know of at least), which I will get to over time. I never really did everything in Caelid, didn't fully explore the Subterranean Shunning-Grounds, and I haven't even started the Haligtree or Mohgwyn areas.

This game has so much content. I view all this extra optional stuff like its built in DLC. Nice to know I can return to the game later and there's still new stuff to dive into.

It seems there’s always new things to find and clear. I just put the game’s biggest and baddest away yet again for this build, and remembered an area I completely missed on the way to her. Found some good stuff too. Now I’m back in Crumbling Faraam and still finding dragons and good stuff I missed before.

I’m on to Placidusax next. After that…I’m going to have to look up a boss/location list again because I think he’s the very last “major” boss to do - not story boss, but major nonetheless.

I need to copy the save on this build. I want to use it for DLC when that’s made available. And it will be. They already showed us the major players in this game that we can expect

[Lazy8s]

I'm pretty sure I'm not going to bother with Placidusax any more.

Chasing across Massive arena only to have it disappear when you get there.

Check

Spamming massive AOEs while you're running to it.

Check

Finally get to continue fighting it only to have it...disappear and move to the other side again....

Check

The boss isn't that tough or complicated. But it is super frustrating because you know if you die, you're going to have to repeat a not fun at all fight.

Sorry Fromsoft - you've changed the way bossfights are done, left player animations behind when building this game - I pumped "heal" a number of times only to have it not respond - that's been an issue through the entire game..

Nah ain't nobody got time for this crap.

edit: Went back and put it away. Quick fight if you don't time all the running. What a disappointing slog, and why did they think all the running would be a good idea?

[Exposed]

Just got into Redman castle and the guy that awaits. Sure was a doozy

[Lazy8s]

Just got into Redman castle and the guy that awaits. Sure was a doozy

You got him? Nice going FYI the tutorial levels are almost finished. It starts getting real now

[Exposed]

You got him? Nice going FYI the tutorial levels are almost finished. It starts getting real now

Actually, no I didn't

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA-pRuQQxbE

But I will eventually, I think

[Lazy8s]

Actually, no I didn't

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA-pRuQQxbE

But I will eventually, I think

Yeah you will.


I went back to Mountaintop of the giants, just combing areas to see what I missed and found a nice puzzle tower. Figured it out after 2 tries with a bow and sprinting on Torrent - just follow the bloodstains

Went for a legendary weapon that I really want, then found out endgame scenario makes it unavailable. Thanks Miyazaki

[Meteor_of_War]

edit: Went back and put it away. Quick fight if you don't time all the running. What a disappointing slog, and why did they think all the running would be a good idea?

Between the bosses running away clear across the room if you get a single hit on them, and all the ridiculous AOE attacks so many of them have, it feels like From Soft is running out of ideas to make tough bosses. I think players have just figured out all their tricks, so they are resorting to these tactics to artificially inflate the difficulty. They are just getting lazy I think.

These things would be fine if they also updated the player movements. But of course like I've complained about so many times, we largely have the same slow player movements as in all the previous games.

I went back to Mountaintop of the giants, just combing areas to see what I missed and found a nice puzzle tower. Figured it out after 2 tries with a bow and sprinting on Torrent - just follow the bloodstains

Is that the one with this clue? - "the falling snow marks something unseen"

If so I could not figure that one out.

[Lazy8s]

Between the bosses running away clear across the room if you get a single hit on them, and all the ridiculous AOE attacks so many of them have, it feels like From Soft is running out of ideas to make tough bosses. I think players have just figured out all their tricks, so they are resorting to these tactics to artificially inflate the difficulty. They are just getting lazy I think.

I agree. There’s ways around it, but it’s part chance, like if you can get it trapped between you and your mimic you can get more hits in.

It’s just frustrating because he’s just not “difficult” at all, not in the sense Manus or Kalameet was. Now those were real boss fights. This is just, as you said…lazy.

Is that the one with this clue? - "the falling snow marks something unseen"

If so I could not figure that one out.

That’s the one.

there’s an invisible walkway from the plateau behind the tower that leads to a balcony on the backside. There’s a nice spell inside

Edit: I only saw it because of the bloodstains when I was exploring back there…