Elden Ring: New Fromsoft rpg

[Lazy8s]

Meteor - the optional I was talking about is Melania I haven’t had an easy time with her lol.

[koralis]

Nope, no fix for it. Its a known issue with the game. Happens on all PC system configurations and with any level of graphics settings. Some kind of issue with asset loading when entering new areas. Near release I actually waited a few days to see if they would fix it in a patch, but no. They either don't know how or don't think its worth fixing. On the bright side the longer you play the less it happens.

I only really have an issue when I alt-tab out of the game and do web browsing for a while. I think Windows ends up pushing the data the game was holding in ram to disk and the reload takes a couple of seconds.

In normal play I don't notice anything, but I have a raided NVMe system which might be alleviating the games structural problems. In addition to just faster, the raid might be pre-caching things.

[Meteor_of_War]

Meteor - the optional I was talking about is Melania I haven’t had an easy time with her lol.

Ahh, yeah I first saw that boss in that video where LoboJr beat that fight with his character at only lvl 1. She does look like a total beast of a boss fight though, especially if you try to fight her straight up with no range attacks or summons. I am not interested in fighting her AT ALL. Especially considering what I've heard it takes just to get to her. I'm all set with that.

I only really have an issue when I alt-tab out of the game and do web browsing for a while. I think Windows ends up pushing the data the game was holding in ram to disk and the reload takes a couple of seconds.

In normal play I don't notice anything, but I have a raided NVMe system which might be alleviating the games structural problems. In addition to just faster, the raid might be pre-caching things.

I also have some minor issues when alt-tabbing the game. Basically the game seems to have trouble with monitor refreshing of any kind. Sometimes when I quit the game it will go to a black screen and not come out of it for a good minute. First time I got concerned but after a few times I know its normal behavior for this game.

As for stutters, it was definitely way worse early in my playthrough. Seemed to get better over time, likely because of shader assets being loaded to cache as Mangler said. In the last couple weeks of playing it might have happened once or twice at most, and always when first entering a brand new area.

[theshadowcult]

Nope, no fix for it. Its a known issue with the game. Happens on all PC system configurations and with any level of graphics settings. Some kind of issue with asset loading when entering new areas. Near release I actually waited a few days to see if they would fix it in a patch, but no. They either don't know how or don't think its worth fixing. On the bright side the longer you play the less it happens.

Narp. Definitely not all pcs. I have the problem and i lessened it a little with the frame rate limit fix, but i know people who dont have the issue at all and others who have it worse.

[Meteor_of_War]

...and the final (possibly the most annoying boss in the game) left for my 3rd playthrough.

Final boss? You can try my strategy which worked very well once I figured it out - 3 fast Flame of Frenzies right next to it. The multiple hit attacks of that spell really works great to get the stagger quickly for a critical strike.

Narp. Definitely not all pcs. I have the problem and i lessened it a little with the frame rate limit fix, but i know people who dont have the issue at all and others who have it worse.

There might be ways to lessen it but there's no 100% fix which was what I was saying. Only thing you can do is play the game. The more you play the less the problem should happen, in theory.

[EDIT] Also, just be aware From Soft's games notoriously break with mods that unlock frame rate.

[Lazy8s]

Final boss? You can try my strategy which worked very well once I figured it out - 3 fast Flame of Frenzies right next to it. The multiple hit attacks of that spell really works great to get the stagger quickly for a critical strike.

I didn’t even think of that. And I just respecced to a full on glass cannon. The Wing Of Astel is notorious for stun locking anything (including the Elden Beast) with it’s L2, which is what I’m planning on trying, but if I change back I’ll give your method a try. Sounds legit

Edit: I just put the dragon Fortissax away with this build, super easy. And he….is not lol.

[Meteor_of_War]

I didn’t even think of that. And I just respecced to a full on glass cannon. The Wing Of Astel is notorious for stun locking anything (including the Elden Beast) with it’s L2, which is what I’m planning on trying, but if I change back I’ll give your method a try. Sounds legit

Edit: I just put the dragon Fortissax away with this build, super easy. And he….is not lol.

I should have also mentioned, I was using a fully upgraded +10 Golden Order Seal and my FTH was at 24 plus whatever the Two Fingers Heirloom talisman raises the FTH stat by (I think an extra 5).

Basically, the power of Flame of Frenzy is going to depend on how strong your sacred seal is, and possibly how high your FTH stat is as well.

[Meteor_of_War]

Edit: I just put the dragon Fortissax away with this build, super easy. And he….is not lol.

That is the secret/hidden boss that FightinCowboy discovered live on stream right? I watched that last night, it was awesome.

[theshadowcult]

Final boss? You can try my strategy which worked very well once I figured it out - 3 fast Flame of Frenzies right next to it. The multiple hit attacks of that spell really works great to get the stagger quickly for a critical strike.



There might be ways to lessen it but there's no 100% fix which was what I was saying. Only thing you can do is play the game. The more you play the less the problem should happen, in theory.

[EDIT] Also, just be aware From Soft's games notoriously break with mods that unlock frame rate.

no mod. limiting frame rate to 59 is one of the "fixes"

[Meteor_of_War]

no mod. limiting frame rate to 59 is one of the "fixes"

Oh, OK then! I wouldn't think that would be a fix for the stuttering in this game, but what do I know.

[Mangler]

, godrick and margit are not so tough when you face them at level 2X with a colossal sword with some decent upgrades.

Having a decent weapon and some vigor really makes a difference.


Now I just wish that there was a way to find another one of these swords, it really is a shame that From did not put an npc in the game that sells another copy of the regular weapons, it kind of sucks that you need to ng+ just in order to get another one.

[Meteor_of_War]

, godrick and margit are not so tough when you face them at level 20 with a colossal sword with some decent upgrades.

Having a decent weapon and some vigor really makes a difference.


Now I just wish that there was a way to find another one of these swords, it really is a shame that From did not put an npc in the game that sells another copy of the regular weapons, it kind of sucks that you need to ng+ just in order to get another one.

You might already know this but you can get a copy of a weapon from someone in co-op or PvP. They just need to drop the item then you can pick it up. I think there might be some restrictions on getting upgraded weapons though. Might not be able to be leveled past your currently highest leveled weapon.

[Lazy8s]

That is the secret/hidden boss that FightinCowboy discovered live on stream right? I watched that last night, it was awesome.

I haven’t seen Cowboy’s stream on which one he did, but this is the one you face at the end of Fia’s quest. There’s still another I’ll have to google because I have zero idea where to even start looking.

[Lazy8s]

I should have also mentioned, I was using a fully upgraded +10 Golden Order Seal and my FTH was at 24 plus whatever the Two Fingers Heirloom talisman raises the FTH stat by (I think an extra 5).

Basically, the power of Flame of Frenzy is going to depend on how strong your sacred seal is, and possibly how high your FTH stat is as well.

Yep I have a +10 Erdtree seal, but I don’t know how it scales with madness. I’m not crazy about the idea that different seals are ideal for different incantations. One for dragon and bestial, one for faith, and whatever is needed for sorceries would suit me. Meh, not a huge deal.

Edit: That might have been Dragonlord Placidusax that he found.

[YellowBeard]

I was using erdtree as well, I think it's the best scaling all rounder if I recall right, but if you go heavy into a build you should probably use whichever seal boosts the incantations you want to use.

Always wanted to try Frenzy, but don't feel like being the frenzied flame to get the frenzy seal.



lol Placidusax pissed me off. We mutually offed each other. He has a freaking death ray attack I had no idea how to handle.

Also, if doing Faith I've heard good things about Pest Threads and large enemies. Seems they like to hit for multiple times on larger hit boxes.

[Meteor_of_War]

Edit: That might have been Dragonlord Placidusax that he found.

That is the one. Awesome looking boss fight.

[Drexion]

Now I just wish that there was a way to find another one of these swords

There is a subreddit for item trading in Souls games, they invade and drop an item you want, and you drop an item they want. It's how some of the "dual wielding the same weapon" (character's first playthrough) builds are made.

[Lazy8s]

I was using erdtree as well, I think it's the best scaling all rounder if I recall right, but if you go heavy into a build you should probably use whichever seal boosts the incantations you want to use.

Always wanted to try Frenzy, but don't feel like being the frenzied flame to get the frenzy seal.



lol Placidusax pissed me off. We mutually offed each other. He has a freaking death ray attack I had no idea how to handle.

Also, if doing Faith I've heard good things about Pest Threads and large enemies. Seems they like to hit for multiple times on larger hit boxes.

I got the Frenzy seal. I haven’t been using any of those incantations, but I’m going to upgrade it and give it a shot. I can’t get the pest threads though, afaik anyway. They’re quest related and that ship sailed.

[Lazy8s]

That is the one. Awesome looking boss fight.

I hate that one It’s just a tough fight. I’ll get back to it after I level a bit more.

[koralis]

Decided that I was too comfortable with my venerable old Banished Knight Halberd. As I've recently shifted towards Int/Sorcery and away from Faith/attacking I was reviewing the weapons I could actually equip.

Decided that Greatswords and such are just too damned slow, don't have the reach, etc. Too many spears need more Faith or Dex than I have. Then I realized I had never given the Commander's Standard a fair shake after besting O'Neal.

Holy cow. The weapon itself... meh. Just a halberd and no cold damage or anything else special about it... pure physical, strength/dex. However, it's intrinsic "Ash" is pretty amazing.

20% bonus damage, 20% less damage taken for 30 seconds for you AND nearby allies? Just as a ME thing this is pretty great. Works on both melee and spells. Really makes the Greatbow and Rock Sling punchy. But let Tiche get an upgrade?? Haven't tried out the latter yet, but I've read that it's damned impressive.

In any event, if you're looking for a damage buff, consider it.

[Lazy8s]

Screw it all. I’m turning on easy mode for the rest of this playthrough. I’ve resisted it up until now, but I’m leaving the frantic fight for your life battles to you younger guys.

Flipping the switch when I get home today.

[Meteor_of_War]

Screw it all. I’m turning on easy mode for the rest of this playthrough. I’ve resisted it up until now, but I’m leaving the frantic fight for your life battles to you younger guys.

Flipping the switch when I get home today.

What's your easy mode? Blasphemous blade and no more glass cannon?

To me any kind of strong ranged attacks is easy mode in this game. Aside from strong ranged sword skills ranged sorcery or FTH nuke spells like Flame of Frenzy makes this game so much easier that even casual gamers could play it and have any easy time (though they still wont).

[Lazy8s]

What's your easy mode? Blasphemous blade and no more glass cannon?

To me any kind of strong ranged attacks is easy mode in this game. Aside from strong ranged sword skills ranged sorcery or FTH nuke spells like Flame of Frenzy makes this game so much easier that even casual gamers could play it and have any easy time (though they still wont).

Fingerprint Shield and Mohg’s spear

I watched a couple of YouTube videos, guys are soloing Melania without even touching their flasks.

It’s this game’s GSoA, but even better.

I’ve just decided I want to just crush. Not fight, just crush kill destroy

[Meteor_of_War]

Holy crap at 29 weight on that shield it better be damn good.

I’ve just decided I want to just crush. Not fight, just crush kill destroy

But yeah man that's what its all about. Shove the game back down Miyazaki's throat.

[shrike126]

Fingerprint Shield and Mohg’s spear

I watched a couple of YouTube videos, guys are soloing Melania without even touching their flasks.

It’s this game’s GSoA, but even better.

I’ve just decided I want to just crush. Not fight, just crush kill destroy

Dangit. I just respec'd recently too.

My current build.






I was really looking forward to playing with a PEW PEW PEW laser beam game style.

[Lazy8s]

Holy crap at 29 weight on that shield it better be damn good.



But yeah man that's what its all about. Shove the game back down Miyazaki's throat.

That’s the plan

[Lazy8s]

Dangit. I just respec'd recently too.

My current build.






I was really looking forward to playing with a PEW PEW PEW laser beam game style.

Level 187!

I loved the glass cannon playthrough. I just haven’t given bleed a fair chance yet, and coupling it with this shield….I’ll post the results.

[shrike126]

Level 187!

I loved the glass cannon playthrough. I just haven’t given bleed a fair chance yet, and coupling it with this shield….I’ll post the results.

Yeah. I've taken to spending my time during a few conference calls encouraging a certain bird to commit suicide.

[Meteor_of_War]

Level 187, now that's beefy. Have you beaten the game yet shrike?

[Lazy8s]

Yeah. I've taken to spending my time during a few conference calls encouraging a certain bird to commit suicide.

I just got off a call while tormenting that same bird

Initial impressions on the fingerprint shield + Mohgwyns sacred spear.

Holy **** where have you been all my life!?

The shield - Can’t touch this

The spear…has the same special attack he uses in the boss fight. Timing is critical of course, but to keep it short, get anywhere near me having that skill and the enemy staggers and dies, pretty quickly.

And that’s without special blood attack related talismans.

Yeah…got some tweaking to do before I finish the rest of the bosses off

[Meteor_of_War]

So, I'm done playing the game for now but I have been reading Reddit posts and watching YouTube vids to get other people's impressions and to see any things I've missed.

I just learned that at least some bosses take two parries before you can get a riposte on them. This blows my mind because I remember early on against the Margit fight is when I kind of gave up parrying in this game because I couldn't figure why the hell ripostes weren't working properly. I would parry, but could not always riposte and it was driving me nuts. So I just gave it up after that and didn't try parrying anymore for the rest of my playthrough. Like WTF game.

[Lazy8s]

So, I'm done playing the game for now but I have been reading Reddit posts and watching YouTube vids to get other people's impressions and to see any things I've missed.

I just learned that at least some bosses take two parries before you can get a riposte on them. This blows my mind because I remember early on against the Margit fight is when I kind of gave up parrying in this game because I couldn't figure why the hell ripostes weren't working properly. I would parry, but could not always riposte and it was driving me nuts. So I just gave it up after that and didn't try parrying anymore for the rest of my playthrough. Like WTF game.

It’s a feature!!

[shrike126]

Level 187, now that's beefy. Have you beaten the game yet shrike?

Not yet. I think I have that area under Shunning Grounds, Haligtree, and a few other random dungeons here and there to revisit. I've fought Godfrey (just once) and died getting familiar with that fight. So that's where I'm at in the story, progression wise. But haven't fully explored a few recent areas.

I just got off a call while tormenting that same bird

To be fair, I've also sort of fussed around, and only visited that place if I'm carrying over 50k Runes. So, for example, going through Farum I'd kill a boss like Godskin Duo, then bounce over to torment that bird enough for a level, then go back to progressing. I still need to kill that dragon down below as well.

Initial impressions on the fingerprint shield + Mohgwyns sacred spear.

Holy **** where have you been all my life!?

The shield - Can’t touch this

The spear…has the same special attack he uses in the boss fight. Timing is critical of course, but to keep it short, get anywhere near me having that skill and the enemy staggers and dies, pretty quickly.

And that’s without special blood attack related talismans.

Yeah…got some tweaking to do before I finish the rest of the bosses off

Just looked that shield up and yup, it's down that pit I gotta parkour to get down huh? I hate that place already. Missed a few drops because I suck at platforming.

So, I'm done playing the game for now but I have been reading Reddit posts and watching YouTube vids to get other people's impressions and to see any things I've missed.

I just learned that at least some bosses take two parries before you can get a riposte on them. This blows my mind because I remember early on against the Margit fight is when I kind of gave up parrying in this game because I couldn't figure why the hell ripostes weren't working properly. I would parry, but could not always riposte and it was driving me nuts. So I just gave it up after that and didn't try parrying anymore for the rest of my playthrough. Like WTF game.

And then you have folks like me who have played 120+ hours in this game without parrying literally a single time.

[Lazy8s]

@Shrike - the only thing I hate more in this game than all the damn platforming is Melania.

I just put her away using Mohgwyns’s Sacred spear and bloodlflies. She bleeds easy turns out.

That shield is broken in that fight. It provides 100% defense, until it doesn’t. Stamina at 100% and a full block and her weapon ignores it enough to make it not viable, in that fight anyway.

On Melania - I have nothing good to say about the fight. It’s hard yes, but she heals when she hits, and she’s one of the fastest hitting bosses in the entire game. Good riddance.

She now tops my list of most hated bosses of all time.

[shrike126]

@Shrike - the only thing I hate more in this game than all the damn platforming is Melania.

I just put her away using Mohgwyns’s Sacred spear and bloodlflies. She bleeds easy turns out.

That shield is broken in that fight. It provides 100% defense, until it doesn’t. Stamina at 100% and a full block and her weapon ignores it enough to make it not viable, in that fight anyway.

On Melania - I have nothing good to say about the fight. It’s hard yes, but she heals when she hits, and she’s one of the fastest hitting bosses in the entire game. Good riddance.

She now tops my list of most hated bosses of all time.

Okay, so that's gonna be a no on Haligtree then.

https://imgur.com/d6aRhXI

[Lazy8s]

Okay, so that's gonna be a no on Haligtree then.

https://imgur.com/d6aRhXI

Well, I’m still 30+ levels below you lol. Plus you’ll probably level 4-5 more times before you get to her.

Haligtree is a tough call. It’s really a cool level with good items / summons (A Cleanrot Knight!) to grab. There’s just a heck of a lot to fight through to get there. And it’s actually a good sized area.

I’d go for it, and her, just so you can say you did

[Mangler]

She's probably going to be pretty easy at level 187 with a tanky spirit.

[Meteor_of_War]

Not yet. I think I have that area under Shunning Grounds, Haligtree, and a few other random dungeons here and there to revisit. I've fought Godfrey (just once) and died getting familiar with that fight. So that's where I'm at in the story, progression wise. But haven't fully explored a few recent areas.

I'll be interested to hear how badly you destroy the final boss once you get there. I struggled with it for a while at level 128, but at your near 200 it will have to be waay easier.

And then you have folks like me who have played 120+ hours in this game without parrying literally a single time.

Eh, honestly parrying is not as useful as it used to be in previous Souls games. Sure, its still great when you pull it off but the parry window seems so much shorter now that its usually not worth the risk. Especially with so many other options to fight with. Of course, its much easier using smaller shields like a buckler, but then you sacrifice guard boost. Like I said I only tried parrying very early on and then stopped completely. I don't think it had much of an affect on my playthrough at all. I think it could still be useful for level 1 playthroughs and for those people who want to play without using spirit summons so the bosses are totally focused on the player. Then is when parrying will really become necessary.

@Shrike - the only thing I hate more in this game than all the damn platforming is Melania.

I just put her away using Mohgwyns’s Sacred spear and bloodlflies. She bleeds easy turns out.

That shield is broken in that fight. It provides 100% defense, until it doesn’t. Stamina at 100% and a full block and her weapon ignores it enough to make it not viable, in that fight anyway.

On Melania - I have nothing good to say about the fight. It’s hard yes, but she heals when she hits, and she’s one of the fastest hitting bosses in the entire game. Good riddance.

She now tops my list of most hated bosses of all time.

FightinCowboy wrecked her on second try using blasphemous blade and mimic tear.

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[Lazy8s]

FightinCowboy wrecked her on second try using blasphemous blade and mimic tear.

I am so very happy for him

I honestly don’t know how to answer that other than that. She took me a total of about 20 runs. Now she’s dead and I have a burning hatred in my heart that wasn’t there before we tango’ed

[shrike126]

I'll be interested to hear how badly you destroy the final boss once you get there. I struggled with it for a while at level 128, but at your near 200 it will have to be waay easier.

Eh, I appreciate the vote of confidence but honestly my current Soul Level is more of a reflection on me self-handicapping the game to get by. I'm not exactly an amazing Souls gamer. I mean, Bed of Chaos was a ****ing brick wall for me and it's not like things have gotten better since then. I have hundreds and hundreds of hours in these games but I'd describe myself as ****ing adequate at best.

Even at this level, while I'd say it's "easier" it's certainly no cakewalk. Coming from a Quality build, my fragile little snow witch takes way more damage. Just a bit ago I remembered that I didn't clear out War-dead Catacombs' boss and revisited it. Only to die maybe 5 times to that ****er's room filling AOE. He was basically 2 shotting me.

But also I was playing with my new Comet Azur KAMEHAMEHA WAVE ability so some of those deaths were self inflicted pretty much.

Then I remembered to invite Tiche to the party and well it got easier after that.

Eh, honestly parrying is not as useful as it used to be in previous Souls games. Sure, its still great when you pull it off but the parry window seems so much shorter now that its usually not worth the risk. Especially with so many other options to fight with. Of course, its much easier using smaller shields like a buckler, but then you sacrifice guard boost. Like I said I only tried parrying very early on and then stopped completely. I don't think it had much of an affect on my playthrough at all. I think it could still be useful for level 1 playthroughs and for those people who want to play without using spirit summons so the bosses are totally focused on the player. Then is when parrying will really become necessary.

People who can parry and do, make the game look broken. Watching FightingCowboy take on the Crucible Knight practicing parrying was like

FightinCowboy wrecked her on second try using blasphemous blade and mimic tear.

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I couldn't really get into that blade's weapon art. I need to revisit it. You know... when I find another dozen Larval Tears.