Elden Ring: New Fromsoft rpg

[Lazy8s]

The game has sold over 12 million copies in 18 days. Nice. Maybe that means we can expect more titles like this

https://www.engadget.com/elden-ring-12-million-copies-18-days-105555964.html

[shrike126]

He’s really popular with the Fromsoftware crowd. I think he does a good job, a little scattered here and there, but his “let’s play” videos are honest. He makes mistakes, owns up to it etc and has a pretty good talent for figuring out boss strategies fast.

Except for that Redmane boss in this game. That had me so worked up it was actually kind of therapeutic for me to see that I beat that thing faster than he did. Sad I know but I have to take what I can get sometimes lol.

Right now I’m working through another run putting together a faith/arc/dex build and if anything, it’s shaping up to be more OP than the mage. Just a little squishy, but that’s getting fixed too.

Love this game, quirks and all

Watching FG's Let's Play where he just turned Starscourge Radahn into a montage of him dying was pretty encouraging to watch. It was like "Ah I'm right there with you brother."

Lobos Jr is on a completely different level. Watching some of his "Naked and use whatever we find as a weapon" videos are insane.

[Lazy8s]

Watching FG's Let's Play where he just turned Starscourge Radahn into a montage of him dying was pretty encouraging to watch. It was like "Ah I'm right there with you brother."

Lobos Jr is on a completely different level. Watching some of his "Naked and use whatever we find as a weapon" videos are insane.

Lobos is good, no doubt, but Cowboy plays more like I do, even though he’s better at it, he still dies dumb deaths sometimes lol. Makes me feel like I might have a chance

Edit: I’m aiming to murder Radahn in one go with this new build, now that I know what to expect. That bastard owes me some blood, sweat and tears lol

[Meteor_of_War]

I look at progression in this as build dependent tbh. I started my first build as a caster and had an easier time with some bosses than a melee build might have - mostly areas with flying enemies, dragons etc.

A good melee build on the other hand might choose another direction and find that a better way to go. The variables available to the player in how they want to approach this game are just amazing.

I do get a kick out of some of the Let’s play videos too. I watched one guy get a certain enemy down to where the HP bar actually looked empty, and he couldn’t respond due to stamina or something and it got him. Couldn’t help but laugh. Been there a couple of times myself

I am mainly a melee player. I still like to get right in the mess of it and use whatever skills my fingers and reflexes still have to muscle through encounters. In the end I think its still the meat of the Souls gameplay. Casters can be a good "easy mode" of sorts, but they tend to be glass cannons a lot and I hate worrying that I can only take one or two hits before dead. Of course in the late game at high levels this can be remedied, but for most of the start of a game its too tricky for me. Also I'm not good playing the math game knowing how many spells I should cast for which enemies to be most economical with my FP. Makes me have to think too much.

Lobos is good, no doubt, but Cowboy plays more like I do, even though he’s better at it, he still dies dumb deaths sometimes lol. Makes me feel like I might have a chance

Edit: I’m aiming to murder Radahn in one go with this new build, now that I know what to expect. That bastard owes me some blood, sweat and tears lol

I saw this in my feed yesterday and just had to watch even though it spoiled me to a late game (optional) boss:


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LobosJr at times can frustrate me with the way he plays, stubborn at times to let go of old habits. But its this kind of dedication and raw skill that I really appreciate. I used to do SL1 playthroughs but I don't think I can do it anymore, just don't have the time.

[Lazy8s]

I am mainly a melee player. I still like to get right in the mess of it and use whatever skills my fingers and reflexes still have to muscle through encounters. In the end I think its still the meat of the Souls gameplay. Casters can be a good "easy mode" of sorts, but they tend to be glass cannons a lot and I hate worrying that I can only take one or two hits before dead. Of course in the late game at high levels this can be remedied, but for most of the start of a game its too tricky for me. Also I'm not good playing the math game knowing how many spells I should cast for which enemies to be most economical with my FP. Makes me have to think too much.



I saw this in my feed yesterday and just had to watch even though it spoiled me to a late game (optional) boss:


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LobosJr at times can frustrate me with the way he plays, stubborn at times to let go of old habits. But its this kind of dedication and raw skill that I really appreciate. I used to do SL1 playthroughs but I don't think I can do it anymore, just don't have the time.

Even when I’m building a caster I indulge in a lot of melee. I get a kick out of seeing what I can do with glass cannons lol.

Lobos though - I have to admit that bothers me seeing that video. He makes that look easy, and she is anything but lol. Unless you’re LobosJr

[Silent-Runner]

that's the problem with vids like that, people tend to watch them and think "well, that's totally easy" while it isn't and then get completely destroyed and frustrated. I always avoid vids with games like Elden Ring.

After completing the game? That's another story.

But yes, he really makes it look like it's a cakewalk

[Meteor_of_War]

I don't know who the hell would watch that video and think its easy. Well, maybe just people who never played nor have any knowledge whatsoever of Souls games?

Pretty obvious though what he's doing there took hours upon hours of practice, and a boatload of skill and experience. Definitely not something everyone can accomplish. Simply the necessary endurance alone to make it through that fight without taking a hit would break most players.

[Mangler]

Looks like people have found a new OP skill, the hoarfrost stomp, looks like it wrecks everything in elden ring.

And you can get a weapon with that has it as its default skill in the lake area.

[Lazy8s]

I don't know who the hell would watch that video and think its easy. Well, maybe just people who never played nor have any knowledge whatsoever of Souls games?

Pretty obvious though what he's doing there took hours upon hours of practice, and a boatload of skill and experience. Definitely not something everyone can accomplish. Simply the necessary endurance alone to make it through that fight without taking a hit would break most players.

Agreed, people who never played. Even with all my hours in Souls games I still have trouble with the parry timing lol.

[Meteor_of_War]

Agreed, people who never played. Even with all my hours in Souls games I still have trouble with the parry timing lol.

IMO they ****ed up parrying since DS3. It was super easy in Demon's Souls and DS1, they changed it a bit in DS2 but it was still easy once you understood the animation change. But starting in Dark Souls 3 they made the parry window much smaller, and it seems to be the exact same in Elden Ring.

I still do parrying, but I will never rely on it anymore in a life or death situation. Thankfully they added the guard counter riposte which is really cool and definitely more reliable than parrying.

[Lazy8s]

IMO they ****ed up parrying since DS3. It was super easy in Demon's Souls and DS1, they changed it a bit in DS2 but it was still easy once you understood the animation change. But starting in Dark Souls 3 they made the parry window much smaller, and it seems to be the exact same in Elden Ring.

I still do parrying, but I will never rely on it anymore in a life or death situation. Thankfully they added the guard counter riposte which is really cool and definitely more reliable than parrying.

That guard counter is a life saver sometimes. I’m pretty certain they changed the roll/dodge windows too. It seems that trying to dodge or roll through any thrust attack just whiffs, like when the enemy gets to a certain point in their attack animation.

Or….I’m just gettin older

Anyway, Fatboi that we’ve been talking about earlier is down. Level 60 and it wasn’t too bad knowing what to expect. Now I can go get them fancy ashes

[Meteor_of_War]

I’m pretty certain they changed the roll/dodge windows too. It seems that trying to dodge or roll through any thrust attack just whiffs, like when the enemy gets to a certain point in their attack animation.

Yeah maybe, I do think you need to react faster in certain situations than before. But like you said, maybe getting older and reflexes are dulling.

I do wish they would finally tune the input queuing though. I understand why its necessary in these games, and discourages button mashing, but it just sucks when you get hit or interrupted in some way and your queued roll still comes out after. I feel like the timing of the queue could be tightened up at least a little. I feel like its one of those issues they really have never improved.

One of those reasons I think Nioh is the better game.

[Mangler]

Speaking of inputs, have any of you noticed that elden ring is sometimes not registering a button press?

[Meteor_of_War]

Speaking of inputs, have any of you noticed that elden ring is sometimes not registering a button press?

I have not noticed anything like that personally.

[Lazy8s]

Speaking of inputs, have any of you noticed that elden ring is sometimes not registering a button press?

Quite a bit. Usually healing or weapon swapping.

[YellowBeard]

Looks like people have found a new OP skill, the hoarfrost stomp, looks like it wrecks everything in elden ring.

And you can get a weapon with that has it as its default skill in the lake area.

Thanks for reminding me that I had this weapon art. Yeah, they made Frostbite ridiculous in this one I've been seeing. Was running with Cold on my Scythe for a bit there. It'd proc Frostbite which does a chunk of damage and then it'd proc Bleed. It'd almost keep the large Omen guys staggered the entire fight between the various procs.



Ended up going back to the Niall fight after forgetting about the sewers and clearing them out. I ended up just traded stomps with him. He'd drop kick, I'd Hoarfrost, and we'd just go back and forth. Think it's the first beating of a boss where I literally felt nothing. Such a bull**** fight that the only option is to cheese it. No accomplishment, no relief, nothing. Least he's in the ground so I can move the **** on.

[Lazy8s]

Nepheli Loux isn’t showing up at the round table for me. She did in my first play through no issues. Did a quick search and quite a few people are having issues with her and Ranni going missing.

I sure could use that talisman she gives…

[YellowBeard]

Nepheli Loux isn’t showing up at the round table for me. She did in my first play through no issues. Did a quick search and quite a few people are having issues with her and Ranni going missing.

I sure could use that talisman she gives…

If she never shows, just run over and see if you can get the Great Jar talisman early. Should be able to just run through Siofra well to get to the other lift pretty easy, or I think you might be able to get over there without running through the well. Also, just looked it up to see if there was a way to do it early and they say do it offline. The invaders summoned will be more generic or something. Sounds like they'll be easier.

[Lazy8s]

If she never shows, just run over and see if you can get the Great Jar talisman early. Should be able to just run through Siofra well to get to the other lift pretty easy, or I think you might be able to get over there without running through the well. Also, just looked it up to see if there was a way to do it early and they say do it offline. The invaders summoned will be more generic or something. Sounds like they'll be easier.

I have to look up that quest. I got to the jar early, but can’t do anything at all. Thanks for the reminder, got to read up on that

Edit: There’s nothing to do, but the summons signs aren’t showing anywhere

I really hope my run isn’t bugged to hell

[YellowBeard]

I have to look up that quest. I got to the jar early, but can’t do anything at all. Thanks for the reminder, got to read up on that

Edit: There’s nothing to do, but the summons signs aren’t showing anywhere

I really hope my run isn’t bugged to hell

That's strange. Didn't think there was anything more to it than talking to the giant jar in front of the arena there, him responding "...", then there should be three red summon signs somewhere in front of him.

Yeah, wonder if something borked.

[Lazy8s]

That's strange. Didn't think there was anything more to it than talking to the giant jar in front of the arena there, him responding "...", then there should be three red summon signs somewhere in front of him.

Yeah, wonder if something borked.

They showed, but I have to level some more. that’s some serious fromsoft bs right there. You have to fight one after the other, every time if you die. And ALL of them have weapons that do massive damage through my shield??

No guard counter available, I might as well not have a shield

I’ll go back later

[YellowBeard]

They showed, but I have to level some more. that’s some serious fromsoft bs right there. You have to fight one after the other, every time if you die. And ALL of them have weapons that do massive damage through my shield??

No guard counter available, I might as well not have a shield

I’ll go back later

Haha, yeah. I just went back later, after my intitial stumbling into it and figuring it out but it sounds like if you try it offline they'll use generic equipment. Might still be tough though. Sounds like if your online they use loadouts from pvpers or people that have done it. It's also different loadouts each time you try. It's interesting.

[Lazy8s]

Haha, yeah. I just went back later, after my intitial stumbling into it and figuring it out but it sounds like if you try it offline they'll use generic equipment. Might still be tough though. Sounds like if your online they use loadouts from pvpers or people that have done it. It's also different loadouts each time you try. It's interesting.

It is interesting for sure. Kill the golems, otherwise that idiot closest just keeps shooting at the arena lol, then try to survive 3 1v1s - I almost got it, maybe one hit away from winning and he stabbed me through my shield

[Meteor_of_War]

After going circles around Leyndell for over an hour I finally think I found the route to the boss. I already got to the invisible barrier that says "Sealed by Morgott" or something.

But I feel like an idiot, I had totally missed and walked right past it an hour ago. (the huge winding tree branch leading up)

I got to that spot and went past it towards the two big brute enemies and killed them but was stumped as to why there was really nothing all the way over there as I was assuming it was the boss room. Then I started scouring the whole city. Only other place I haven't fully explored yet was the Subterranean Shunning-Grounds. I went through a lot of it, but there's some areas I haven't yet figured out how to get to. Will save that for another time since it now seems to be optional anyways.

Unfortunately not enough time tonight to start on the boss, but at least I found it.

Also, this area is chock full of runes. I must have leveled up 5 times since I've been here.

[eNforcer]

After going circles around Leyndell for over an hour I finally think I found the route to the boss.

Screw that place, I still got lost in NG+

[Meteor_of_War]

Screw that place, I still got lost in NG+

I think From Soft really went for confusing level design more than anything else with some of the main areas in this game. The verticality of the level design makes it tough to get your bearings at times, and there aren't many queues in the environment to lead you towards where you need to go.

Luckily it wasn't a total waste of time as i did find loads of items and never lost any runes thankfully. Just a little frustrated as my time is at a premium right now and i hate not making any progress.

[YellowBeard]

It is interesting for sure. Kill the golems, otherwise that idiot closest just keeps shooting at the arena lol, then try to survive 3 1v1s - I almost got it, maybe one hit away from winning and he stabbed me through my shield

You might not have to kill the golems. I ran past them when I did it cause I was sick of them. You can dodge and weave for the most part, use the big tree as cover then make a made dash for the last leg. Don't get too close, cause the explosion goes through the tree. I don't recall the last ones arrows hitting high enough to reach where you fight. I could be wrong and was just getting there at the right location though.

I know the feeling. Think I wrote about that fight earlier. Had 2 of 3 down and then last guy did a jumping attack. For some reason I thought attacking him would knock him out of it. NOPE. There goes the rest of my health. That was a bummer of a try for me.

Hopefully you can get it at some point soon if she doesn't show up at the Roundtable for you.


Just been running around mopping some stuff up. Got to the Ghosty town in the Consecrated Snowfields in terms of actual progression. Saw a couple spots on the maps I never ran around in so I did some visiting of old sights. Found out I completely overlooked the entire introduction to Perfumers area. Just been running around in full Guardian attire with the Marais mask on and dicking around with the faith fists for shits and giggles while I'm in the lower level areas.

[shrike126]

New patch just got pushed. You get kicked to the Title screen if you're online and forced to update if you want to get back online.

https://www.bandainamcoent.com/news/elden-ring-patch-notes-v1-03

They've nerfed Sword of Night and Flame, and Mimic Tear Ash, and Barricade Shield, and Hoarfrost Stomp. Basically the stuff anyone was using all got nerfed.

[Mangler]

****, i just killed that stormveil NPC in my last session since he was broken and I wanted to check out his stock.

[Silent-Runner]

New patch just got pushed. You get kicked to the Title screen if you're online and forced to update if you want to get back online.

https://www.bandainamcoent.com/news/elden-ring-patch-notes-v1-03

They've nerfed Sword of Night and Flame, and Mimic Tear Ash, and Barricade Shield, and Hoarfrost Stomp. Basically the stuff anyone was using all got nerfed.

no surprise, told ya so....

There's still more than enough op stuff in this game

[Lazy8s]

I loaded up after it patched this morning, in Leyndell. I haven’t noticed much difference with the gear I’m using on my new build.

Enemies (Erdtree Avatar) can still stand in one spot and spam AOEs.

Game is still hitching.

Couldn’t switch weapons for about 30 seconds during combat - this is frustrating. I very deliberately distanced myself from the knight and could not get switching from talisman to sword to happen.

The game locked up on me as well, during exploration. I had to pull up the task manager and kill it.

So basically business as usual.

I do wish they would focus on the larger issues, optimizing to get rid of the hitching / stuttering etc rather than weapons. I don’t think that worrying about how players kill each other in pvp should be the main focus.

Oh, the jellyfish shield still rocks.

Edit: Good video detailing some of the major patch changes - nothing really spoilery

https://youtu.be/EUCapuabKkg

[koralis]

Hmmm... I wanted to upgrade my new shield and lacked smithing stones... so thought, alright... time to deal with those bearings. Maybe I already have it? To the twins... no bearings. Hmm... where is it then?

https://eldenring.wiki.fextralife.com/Smithing-Stone+Miner's+Bell+Bearing+(1)?msclkid=21593d14a5e111ec873037e5183404f7

"BUT I FINISHED THAT FIGHT! what the hell?"


Then I was just browsing though the patch list.

Fixed a bug that sometime prevented the player from obtaining item after boss battle.

Well, ****... I think I'll never get that one then.

Increased the drop rate of Smithing Stone for some enemies
Added Smithing Stone to some early game shop line up.

Guess I need to buy them elsewhere and/or wait.

Increased shield’s effectiveness
Increased the damage for all offensive cracked pot items

Nice. I use both of those.

Increased FP consumption and lower duration of Ash of War, Barricade Shield
Decreased Ash of War, Hoarfrost Stomp's damage and increase cast time

Not so nice... I use one or the other. With higher cast time, I'm not sure Hoarfrost is worth it. Solves that problem for me.

[Meteor_of_War]

I do wish they would focus on the larger issues, optimizing to get rid of the hitching / stuttering etc rather than weapons. I don’t think that worrying about how players kill each other in pvp should be the main focus.

Agree. I think that's the kind of thing that's harder to fix though, so they are focusing on little bugs and quality of life stuff first. Hopefully the performance fixes are coming, and they don't just think its not a problem.

Looking at the patch notes, I like the addition of NPC markers on the map. I'm not one that thinks the game needs a full quest journal system like other RPGs, but I think they could do a little more here in this department. Keeping track of quests has always been tough in Souls games but the size and scope of Elden Ring makes it even more daunting.

Would have liked a step further with that though. At the very least I would have liked to see some sort of notes journal added to the menu. For example, when you meet an NPC with a quest it could add a note for that person and what they said. That's all. Would at least help you not forget about them, while still keeping things obscure. Otherwise I am writing my own notes like its 1995. I get it, From Soft likes to keep things old school but there's certain things they can modernize and still keep their eccentric reputation. I guess in a way the NPC markers accomplish some of this so that's good.

[Lazy8s]

Agree. I think that's the kind of thing that's harder to fix though, so they are focusing on little bugs and quality of life stuff first. Hopefully the performance fixes are coming, and they don't just think its not a problem.

Looking at the patch notes, I like the addition of NPC markers on the map. I'm not one that thinks the game needs a full quest journal system like other RPGs, but I think they could do a little more here in this department. Keeping track of quests has always been tough in Souls games but the size and scope of Elden Ring makes it even more daunting.

Would have liked a step further with that though. At the very least I would have liked to see some sort of notes journal added to the menu. For example, when you meet an NPC with a quest it could add a note for that person and what they said. That's all. Would at least help you not forget about them, while still keeping things obscure. Otherwise I am writing my own notes like its 1995. I get it, From Soft likes to keep things old school but there's certain things they can modernize and still keep their eccentric reputation. I guess in a way the NPC markers accomplish some of this so that's good.

All true. -I think that freeze this morning soured me a bit, but I imagine the scope of optimizing this entire game is daunting. Like you said, I just hope they aren’t thinking it’s fine. They must see user reviews and reports.

I love the new NPC markers too. I actually got a little excited and thought I might be able to fast travel right to the NPC. That would be too TOO easy though lol.

Either way I’ll be playing this game for a long time, and it’s perfectly playable as is, so there’s that. I can deal with odd quirks here and there in a title like this

Edit: I might still grab it on PS5 just to have it. I game on a laptop, so if any component I can’t replace goes, I’m out of luck until I get it repaired/replaced, and I need my game time.

[Meteor_of_War]

I just took out the main boss of Leyndell on the first attempt. I must be OP for this area now (level 83). My meteoric ore blade is still only +6 though, although I have INT at 26 now which it scales (slightly) with.

Yay finally off to a new area. Was kind a bit tired of this place.

Also, I am thinking of picking up the uchigatana just so I have another katana that I can buff. Not sure where it is though. I bet its near the starting area and I just missed it somehow. I'll probably just look it up.

[Lazy8s]

I just took out the main boss of Leyndell on the first attempt. I must be OP for this area now (level 83). My meteoric ore blade is still only +6 though, although I have INT at 26 now which it scales (slightly) with.

Yay finally off to a new area. Was kind a bit tired of this place.

Also, I am thinking of picking up the uchigatana just so I have another katana that I can buff. Not sure where it is though. I bet its near the starting area and I just missed it somehow. I'll probably just look it up.

Which main boss?

[eNforcer]

I read that stutterig/hitching post-patch could be due to shaders being re-cached, it was told that game patches and GPU driver updates would cause this.



Is it getting any better after playing for a while? My main concern was the occasional whole second freezes that actually get me killed, I can deal with stuttering.

[Meteor_of_War]

Which main boss?

Morgott The Omen King. I said main boss because there were two, Godfrey being the other.

[Meteor_of_War]

I read that stutterig/hitching post-patch could be due to shaders being re-cached, it was told that game patches and GPU driver updates would cause this.



Is it getting any better after playing for a while? My main concern was the occasional whole second freezes that actually get me killed, I can deal with stuttering.

I played for a little over an hour this morning after applying the new patch and I didn't experience any stutters or freezing at all. But I was in one area the whole time. We'll see how it goes next time when I venture back out into new areas.

[Mangler]

I think the most annoying thing about the performance issues is that they don't exist on steamos/linux using a dx12 to vulkan wrapper/proton, and the fact that valve was able to fix elden ring faster than From.