THE Epic Games Store Thread

[borat]

Seriously, it doesn't make sense to compare Epic to Steam 15 years ago...

[Jet Black]

So Epic just bought Houseparty: https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/12/1...ite-video-chat

I've never used Houseparty but is this going to be their chat/social platform for EGS you think?

[Athena]

So you are suggesting it's ok to recreate history again rather than learn from those mistakes and not have everyone make them individually?

Did you see that suggestion in any of my posts? Way to project words into another persons post.

People had been saying how Steam had had little to no issues in the beginning compared to Epic and while Epic is sucking, at least I think their store is currently sucking. I am not forgetting that Steam also sucked in the beginning. So I am not going to not use Epic (the evil double negative) now just because they are not as good as Steam is now, I am wiling to give them time, just as I was willing to give Valve time then as they had the games I wanted to play then. Epic has some of the games I want to play now. Such is life.

Seems simple to me, but maybe I do not enjoy drama in my life as much as others.

[KAC]

Too much internet drama these days. If a gay ass emo nub doesn’t lose it on the internet everyday s/he feels that their life purpose has not been achieved.

[Mahjik]

Did you see that suggestion in any of my posts? Way to project words into another persons post.

People had been saying how Steam had had little to no issues in the beginning compared to Epic and while Epic is sucking, at least I think their store is currently sucking. I am not forgetting that Steam also sucked in the beginning. So I am not going to not use Epic (the evil double negative) now just because they are not as good as Steam is now, I am wiling to give them time, just as I was willing to give Valve time then as they had the games I wanted to play then. Epic has some of the games I want to play now. Such is life.

Seems simple to me, but maybe I do not enjoy drama in my life as much as others.

The whole point everyone is making is that Steam did have problems, but 10-15 years ago. Epic has been around long enough to see every problem Steam experienced and to come out 10+ years later and not have the same problems (i.e. be better). Yet, they did not. That came out with something that looks like it came from 2005. Granted, they don't seem to have experienced any capacity issues (yet, but they haven't really had a blockbuster exclusive title yet like HL2 was for Steam) but their UI is pathetic for 2019.

[Eisberg]

When it comes to these digital platforms all I want is to buy a game, download a game, and to update a game if I choose to update it and not forced. Epic and Gog do great with all if these, Steam horribly fails at not being forced to update.

[zizbuka]

When it comes to these digital platforms all I want is to buy a game, download a game, and to update a game if I choose to update it and not forced. Epic and Gog do great with all if these, Steam horribly fails at not being forced to update.

I'd like to be able to read reviews, peruse the storefront's forums, at least get some idea of what the game is about. Epic has none of this, in 2019.

[Crawdaddy79]

I'd like to be able to read reviews, peruse the storefront's forums, at least get some idea of what the game is about. Epic has none of this, in 2019.

Amazingly, some people don't care about those things.

A mentality that seems to be common is to buy the game to find out about it, and if you don't like it, get a refund (e.g. you were hoping for a single player game and it's MP only, or vice-versa).

I'd normally blame millennials for cultivating/supporting basic, information-barren storefronts, but Eisberg is not quite a millennial.

[Eisberg]

Amazingly, some people don't care about those things.

A mentality that seems to be common is to buy the game to find out about it, and if you don't like it, get a refund (e.g. you were hoping for a single player game and it's MP only, or vice-versa).

I'd normally blame millennials for cultivating/supporting basic, information-barren storefronts, but Eisberg is not quite a millennial.

I've quit using Steam reviews and forums to figure out if I want to buy a game like some years ago, I found other anonymous people's opinion when I really don't have a base line to understanding their likes and dislikes to not be very helpful at all. Though I have found some youtubers/twitchers by looking through their content to figure out their general likes and dislikes that I have found to be very helpful.

[Nunz]

When it comes to these digital platforms all I want is to buy a game, download a game, and to update a game if I choose to update it and not forced. Epic and Gog do great with all if these, Steam horribly fails at not being forced to update.

Yeah, that's all you want right? BS. You constantly go at Steam for the "discovery" section not giving you good suggestions, a feature that works just fine for most users. Damn bro, you come up with a new excuse for the Epic store sucking every post. I don't understand why you guys think going after Steam's short-comings (and there are plenty) somehow makes up for Epic not having features that have existed for years. Beyond that, I really don't know when this Steam-hate-bandwagon thing started. It makes zero sense. It was/is a pioneer of the digital store platform and does so many things right. New stores like the one Epic released come out with features that the Steam store has had for years, but somehow Valve/steam is painted as the bad guy.

Makes absolutely zero sense.

[Seyiji]

When it comes to these digital platforms all I want is to buy a game, download a game, and to update a game if I choose to update it and not forced. Epic and Gog do great with all if these, Steam horribly fails at not being forced to update.

Blame the devs for not being able to use features steam has in order to enable rolling back.

You take a look at anything Nixxes has ported since around Deus Ex Human Revolution for example. Swing on over to the beta section to find previous (stable) builds of games they release. Sure it isn't labeled as a rollback feature but it sure is being used as one if you so desire.

[zcaa0g]

When it comes to these digital platforms all I want is to buy a game, download a game, and to update a game if I choose to update it and not forced. Epic and Gog do great with all if these, Steam horribly fails at not being forced to update.

You will also be trying to find the game if you have 1300+ games in the Epic Store like I have in Steam. That would be a cluster to scroll through without being able to organize into actual genres.

[Eisberg]

Yeah, that's all you want right? BS. You constantly go at Steam for the "discovery" section not giving you good suggestions, a feature that works just fine for most users. Damn bro, you come up with a new excuse for the Epic store sucking every post. I don't understand why you guys think going after Steam's short-comings (and there are plenty) somehow makes up for Epic not having features that have existed for years. Beyond that, I really don't know when this Steam-hate-bandwagon thing started. It makes zero sense. It was/is a pioneer of the digital store platform and does so many things right. New stores like the one Epic released come out with features that the Steam store has had for years, but somehow Valve/steam is painted as the bad guy.

Makes absolutely zero sense.

Finding a game is a part of the buying process.

It isn't steam hate, but more of feeling that Steam has become useless and too restrictive over the years and the only reason to use it is for the games that are only available on Steam.

[Eisberg]

Blame the devs for not being able to use features steam has in order to enable rolling back.

You take a look at anything Nixxes has ported since around Deus Ex Human Revolution for example. Swing on over to the beta section to find previous (stable) builds of games they release. Sure it isn't labeled as a rollback feature but it sure is being used as one if you so desire.

I blame Valve for not having a do not update option, instead they have 3 options of forced updates. People say Valve is supportive of mods , but really they half assed it by forcing updates. People who like to use mods don't want their game updated till the mods they play are updated first, but Valve forces updates which breaks mods and basically make the game unplayable for those who want to play the game with the mods.

[theshadowcult]

What? You can set steam to not update individual games. When i set it, it doesnt update them at all.

[Eisberg]

What? You can set steam to not update individual games. When i set it, it doesnt update them at all.

Until you decide to play the game and then it will force you to update.

There are only 3 option, which are basically:

Automatically update
Update when you go to play the game
Give priority to this game to update first

[Dungeoncrawler]

Back and forth with their support staff. Still cannot play games that I have already paid for. The damn launcher does not show-up in any lists to allow it to be uninstalled . Even 3rd party uninstallers will not detect the launcher.

[zizbuka]

Back and forth with their support staff. Still cannot play games that I have already paid for. The damn launcher does not show-up in any lists to allow it to be uninstalled . Even 3rd party uninstallers will not detect the launcher.

Epic Games Launcher? Shows up for me in Programs and Features.

[alitayyab]

I have had zero issues with Epic Launcher, I could just be lucky though.
Also Rebel Galaxy now free on EGS.

[Jet Black]

I have had zero issues with Epic Launcher, I could just be lucky though.
Also Rebel Galaxy now free on EGS.

The only thing I dislike about the EGS is that two of the three games I play (WWZ & Dauntless) will not connect online if I run them as non-Steam games through Steam. I've had to use GloSC (Global Steam Controller) to run these the way I want. It works, but it's kinda messy and somewhat inconvenient.

[Seyiji]

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[Seyiji]

Refunds will be honored for Shenmue 3 for those who were expecting a Steam key when they backed the game on Kickstarter and the devs admit the game was supposed to come to Steam until Epic shoved their dick in things.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects.../posts/2553891

[Seyiji]

Looks like Epic is footing the bill for the Shenmue refunds.

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[Crawdaddy79]

They have to be hemmoraging money with this venture. I know Fortnite money is paying for it, but that can't be sustainable.

[twonha]

They have to be hemmoraging money with this venture. I know Fortnite money is paying for it, but that can't be sustainable.

They're using Fortnite money to push the Epic Store aggressively, so that it *becomes* sustainable. The Metro blow-up was only a few months ago. I'm sure they can afford at least two years of spending to acquire market share. Once they've got a solid store that people don't hiss at, that's money coming in for years to come.

[Bires]

They have to be hemmoraging money with this venture. I know Fortnite money is paying for it, but that can't be sustainable.

Tencent.
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[Eisberg]

Highly doubt the 330milliin that Tencent invested in 2012 is paying for any of this, I would be surprised if any of that money was left over after 7 years and not fully spent years ago.
Epic is paying with thier multi billion profits they make a year due to mostly Unreal engine and some from Fortnite.

[Nunz]

Mostly from fortnite. They wouldn’t be able to do what they’ve been doing without the massive influx of cash that came in from that atrocity of a game.

Thankfully it’s dying down. Good competition from games like Apex have bit into that.

[bill dennison]

just say no to Epic .

[borat]

I can't imagine there ever being enough people choosing to buy games on Epic over Steam. Epic is gonna need exclusives for many many years.

[Megaman]

I can't imagine there ever being enough people choosing to buy games on Epic over Steam. Epic is gonna need exclusives for many many years.

Don’t worry they are working on the exclusivity and they are doing good.

[Eisberg]

Mostly from fortnite. They wouldn’t be able to do what they’ve been doing without the massive influx of cash that came in from that atrocity of a game.

Thankfully it’s dying down. Good competition from games like Apex have bit into that.

Going by this, UE is their big money maker
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/14/the-...e-success.html

I can't imagine there ever being enough people choosing to buy games on Epic over Steam. Epic is gonna need exclusives for many many years.

If they keep on having the success they been having, eventually they won't even need contracts for exclusive games, they'll most likely have a lot of dev/pubs going exclusive without contracts.

[borat]

Don’t worry they are working on the exclusivity and they are doing good.

I was kinda replying to Crawdaddy and twonha. I don't know anything for sure, but I don't think the store will ever be sustainable on its own. Like Ubisoft and EA, I imagine Epic will need a consistently successful franchise to keep the store going and I don't think Fortnite counts. (Do we know if they're working on that?) Paying for exclusives that are in many cases temporary doesn't seem sustainable, like twonha said...

EDIT: Was typing this before Eisberg posted...

[Drexion]

I can't imagine there ever being enough people choosing to buy games on Epic over Steam.

EGS has regional scaling that works a lot better in many parts of the world. I have quite a few friends in developing countries that purchased Metro instead of pirating it because instead of the hundreds of their dollars they have to pay for one game on Steam, it was about the equivalent of 20 bucks or so for them, which put it in their affordable range. I'm sure most of them will be returning customers on Epic's platform.

I'm glad someone is trying to shake up the 'effective monopoly' that Steam has had for a while now.

[alitayyab]

EGS has regional scaling that works a lot better in many parts of the world. I have quite a few friends in developing countries that purchased Metro instead of pirating it because instead of the hundreds of their dollars they have to pay for one game on Steam, it was about the equivalent of 20 bucks or so for them, which put it in their affordable range. I'm sure most of them will be returning customers on Epic's platform.

I'm glad someone is trying to shake up the 'effective monopoly' that Steam has had for a while now.

Steam has regional pricing for many games. As far as steam is concerned it leaves it up to the publishers to set regional pricing. The new Metro game (with season's pass) was 12.49 during last year's steam sale (South Asia). The season's pass is available for 6.99 right now but no base game. EGS offers the same pass for 9.99

Sunset overdrive is 8.19 (granted not much of a discount, but there is one none the less). Ubisoft & SE games are cheaper as well. the MRSP on SE games is about 50-60% of base US price.

[Drexion]

Steam has regional pricing for many games.

Steam's regional pricing doesn't work in many countries of the world. EGS regional prices works in some of those countries. (there was a thread on resetera with more specifics but I can't find it now)

I'm glad you're having a great time with Steam, but your experience does not match millions of other gamers in developing countries who would gladly be customers instead of pirates.

[Athena]

Mostly from fortnite. They wouldn’t be able to do what they’ve been doing without the massive influx of cash that came in from that atrocity of a game.

Thankfully it’s dying down. Good competition from games like Apex have bit into that.

Apex recent numbers just put it over 2.5 million and growing.

Fortnite recent numbers put it over 250 million with 10.8 concurrent as its highest server load. in June. and their numbers are still growing.

I dumped Apex and went all the way back to Borderlands due to the hacking issues EA still can't seem to control. Why deal with the frustration of hacked PVP when I can have actual fun in PVE coop.

That and I still pop on Overwatch from time to time to get my but kicked when I start to think I got skills.

[Nascar24]

Was just reading on EA news that APEX has been going down the crapper as far as people playing is concerned.

[Nunz]

Really? Hmm. Haven’t really noticed and they just released the new season. I’m surprised to hear that. It’s one of the few games I enjoy playing on my PS4. Also don’t have to worry about hackers on console which is nice.

I still don’t understand how fortnite is so popular.. it’s just awful in so many aspects.

[Mangler]

Kids love it.