The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt

[theshadowcult]

I give up, almost every discussion social media, forums or anywhere else always boils to the same thing.

People from USA: Haha, MONEY MONEY MONEY. His own fault! Ha! Sucker!
People from everywhere else: How about some fairness?

Reminds me why I don't really bother to discuss anything with people from that side of the pond.

im not from merica... this IS fairness. He was ****ing offered both a lump sum AND a percentage of the profits and HE convinced the devs to give him a larger lump sum up front and forgo the profits. HE signed a contract, HE made a choice. He got his payment for his ip. In NO way is it ok, morally and hopefully legally for him to demand more money off of THE DEVELOPER's hard work that he had NOTHING to do with.

He is an author who was paid for his work. The fact that he had already done the job before the games were made means nothing. He did absolutely nothing to achieve cdprojectreds success out side of the work he was already paid for... do you see where im going with this? do i need to say the same thing over again?

[KAC]

Gay got what he asked. Now he can’t get more dick if he doesn’t show his ass.

[Megaman]

Interesting opinion you has there KAC.

[Eisberg]

Interesting opinion you has there KAC.

I think he didn't realize he wasn't signed on to the porn site and put the comment on the wrong place, he was trying to comment on a video he watched.

[Munkus]

I thought this was amazing sounding! And that young lady can almost be a Trish stand in.
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Her Kaer Morhen Theme
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Great stuff. Thanks!

Weeks after finishing TW3, I can't stop thinking about it. It's not just a game. It's an experience. I wish other companies would put as much care into their stories and world-building as CDProject did. Of course, most don't have the rich source material to build from. I should read the books.

I really wish my life wasn't so hectic right now, or I'd go back and play it again.

[Brainstew]

I give up, almost every discussion social media, forums or anywhere else always boils to the same thing.

People from USA: Haha, MONEY MONEY MONEY. His own fault! Ha! Sucker!
People from everywhere else: How about some fairness?

Reminds me why I don't really bother to discuss anything with people from that side of the pond.

What about it isn't fair?

Gay got what he asked. Now he can’t get more dick if he doesn’t show his ass.

This.

[Lazy8s]

Great stuff. Thanks!

Weeks after finishing TW3, I can't stop thinking about it. It's not just a game. It's an experience. I wish other companies would put as much care into their stories and world-building as CDProject did. Of course, most don't have the rich source material to build from. I should read the books.

I really wish my life wasn't so hectic right now, or I'd go back and play it again.

I'm getting ready to jump back in and really looking forward to it. Life = hectic yes, but a little less for a few weeks.

[ASCI Blue]

It's not like terms of the contract were hidden or anything. Dude saw what was offered, likely assumed the games wouldn't sell, then **** bricks when the games did better than the books. Seems he had plenty of opportunity to say no or make a counter offer like a lump sum plus percentage of profits.

This is entry level contract stuff, dude ****ed the dog. Hard.

[theshadowcult]

It's not like terms of the contract were hidden or anything. Dude saw what was offered, likely assumed the games wouldn't sell, then **** bricks when the games did better than the books. Seems he had plenty of opportunity to say no or make a counter offer like a lump sum plus percentage of profits.

This is entry level contract stuff, dude ****ed the dog. Hard.

Shits worse than that. The Author himself said he got greedy and demanded a sum up front higher than he thought they would be willing to pay, instead of the percentage plus the bonus upfront, which he didnt believe would amount to anything.
That fact that he believes he deserves more of their profits now, is just him being greedy yet again.

[Exposed]

The argument that the author signed a legal contract and took a lump sum in lieu of profits is not what this is about.

There's a specific Polish law that addresses contracts that abuse this power. Whether or not that happened in this case is up to the courts.

Article 44:

"In the event of gross discrepancy between the remuneration of the author and the benefits of the acquirer of the author's economic rights or the licensee, the author may request the court for a due increase of his/her remuneration."


In other words, if you write a novel and sell the media rights to a company for $20, and they make $20 billion (a gross over exaggeration to showthis point), then the author can go to court to demand more than what was initially agreed to in the contract. This is to protect the artist and ensure they receive fair compensation.

We don't know how much Andrzej Sapkowski received, and I don't think we know how much the games earned CD Project over the years. IF there is a sizeable discrepency, then yes he will be entitled to more compensation, but all that is up to the Polish courts to decide based on Article 44, not armchair lawyers citing US laws.

[ASCI Blue]

The argument that the author signed a legal contract and took a lump sum in lieu of profits is not what this is about.

There's a specific Polish law that addresses contracts that abuse this power. Whether or not that happened in this case is up to the courts.

Article 44:

"In the event of gross discrepancy between the remuneration of the author and the benefits of the acquirer of the author's economic rights or the licensee, the author may request the court for a due increase of his/her remuneration."


In other words, if you write a novel and sell the media rights to a company for $20, and they make $20 billion (a gross over exaggeration to showthis point), then the author can go to court to demand more than what was initially agreed to in the contract. This is to protect the artist and ensure they receive fair compensation.

We don't know how much Andrzej Sapkowski received, and I don't think we know how much the games earned CD Project over the years. IF there is a sizeable discrepency, then yes he will be entitled to more compensation, but all that is up to the Polish courts to decide based on Article 44, not armchair lawyers citing US laws.

Nice idea but this comes before Article 44, this is 41. In law articles/rules/etc go in order. I'm sure the author's lawyer is going to try to argue 44, but the argument has to survive 41 first.


http://www.wipo.int/wipolex/en/text....LinkTarget_297

Article 41. 1. Unless the Act states otherwise:
1)
the author's economic rights may devolve upon other persons through inheritance or by contract,
2)
the person who acquires the author's economic rights may transfer them to other persons, unless the

contract stipulates otherwise.

2. A contract for the transfer of the author's economic rights or for the use of the work, hereinafter
called "the licence", shall cover the fields of exploitation specified expressly therein.
Any provisions of a contract concerning all works or all works of a specific type by the same author to be produced in the future shall be invalid.
A contract may provide only for such fields of exploitation which are known at the time of its conclusion.



Author has nothing.

[Exposed]

I've been itching to play Witcher 3 again. Now I got my 2080Ti I wanna throw some mods at it.

What do you guys think of this?

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Anything better than this out there? What about texture packs? I've seen some packs, but it looks like they ripped them off of Skyrim HD and I do not want Witcher 3 to have Skyrim textures.

[koralis]

Any provisions of a contract concerning all works or all works of a specific type by the same author to be produced in the future shall be invalid.
A contract may provide only for such fields of exploitation which are known at the time of its conclusion.

What fields of exploitation were not known at the time of signing? It's not like they're licensing a Broadway play based on the Video Games that they created(which were based off the license.) it's not like they created an interactive VR "game" or amusement park experience based on it.


If the contract stipulated that the license was to be applicable to a single game, then sure... adding more games that were in excess of the license would be a breech of copyright. If the license agreement was more general (and I'd be shocked if it wasn't) that CD had the right to use the material in the production of video games, then it was known at the time of signing. The fact that the author didn't think they'd make any money off of ONE, let alone have multiple sequels, is really just a testament to his shortsightedness.

[OverclockN']

I've been itching to play Witcher 3 again. Now I got my 2080Ti I wanna throw some mods at it.

What do you guys think of this?

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Anything better than this out there? What about texture packs? I've seen some packs, but it looks like they ripped them off of Skyrim HD and I do not want Witcher 3 to have Skyrim textures.

I've been wanting to play that game again as well. I just can't get behind all the visual mods though. Most of the ones labeled as realism mods just make the game look worse, IMO. I spent 210hrs in the game in my play through and never once thought it needed more realism or better graphics.

If I were to do any changes playing through again on faster hardware, I'd use an editor to increase the flora count using the original assets (I thought the draw distance was poor) and improve the overall draw distance to reduce pop up, improve building textures at med to far distances, and LOD changes at close distance.

Other than that, it was a masterpiece better left alone, I think.

[Lazy8s]

I've been wanting to play that game again as well. I just can't get behind all the visual mods though. Most of the ones labeled as realism mods just make the game look worse, IMO. I spent 210hrs in the game in my play through and never once thought it needed more realism or better graphics.

If I were to do any changes playing through again on faster hardware, I'd use an editor to increase the flora count using the original assets (I thought the draw distance was poor) and improve the overall draw distance to reduce pop up, improve building textures at med to far distances, and LOD changes at close distance.

Other than that, it was a masterpiece better left alone, I think.

I'm playing it stock on a 1070 and it looks amazing imo.

That said, I have to admit that if I had a 2080ti I would want more too.

[Danny Nissan]

@Exposed: https://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/m...ab=description
I recommend this!! It fixes the, at times, horrible LOD.

[Apocalypsee]

I've been wanting to play that game again as well. I just can't get behind all the visual mods though. Most of the ones labeled as realism mods just make the game look worse, IMO. I spent 210hrs in the game in my play through and never once thought it needed more realism or better graphics.

If I were to do any changes playing through again on faster hardware, I'd use an editor to increase the flora count using the original assets (I thought the draw distance was poor) and improve the overall draw distance to reduce pop up, improve building textures at med to far distances, and LOD changes at close distance.

Other than that, it was a masterpiece better left alone, I think.

QFT. I don't think it needs anymore graphics mods. Maybe some gameplay mods perhaps (I find that controlling horse is a pain sometime, and parry/counterattack is missing something)

[Lazy8s]

Anyone seen any buggy behavior lately with quests? I'm working through Brothers in Arms now, and several times there is no indicator where Geralt is supposed to go on the map. Restarting the game has fixed it a couple of times, but it's repeating often enough to be a pain.

[globalist]

QFT. I don't think it needs anymore graphics mods. Maybe some gameplay mods perhaps (I find that controlling horse is a pain sometime, and parry/counterattack is missing something)

Indeed. The only necessary mods are:

- the one that tames the erratic weather system
- auto-apply oils based on enemy
- gallop in towns
- the one that adjusts the leveling curve so you don't overlevel stuff so easily
- all objectives on map

[Lazy8s]

Indeed. The only necessary mods are:

- the one that tames the erratic weather system
- auto-apply oils based on enemy
- gallop in towns
- the one that adjusts the leveling curve so you don't overlevel stuff so easily
- all objectives on map

Thanks for the list. I think those would be just fine for me.

[globalist]

No probs. Let me know if you have trouble finding any of them, but they all should be on Nexusmods.com

[Lazy8s]

No probs. Let me know if you have trouble finding any of them, but they all should be on Nexusmods.com

I love nexusmods. That auto-apply oils and all objectives on map look priceless. I've already beaten the game, but I switched from a "main story only" run to "Heck with it, going for 100%" lol.

I might never make it, but those two will make it easier.

[OverclockN']

I love nexusmods. That auto-apply oils and all objectives on map look priceless. I've already beaten the game, but I switched from a "main story only" run to "Heck with it, going for 100%" lol.

I might never make it, but those two will make it easier.

I need to fire it back up some day and check what I may have missed. I know it's not 100%, but it's super close. I didn't move on to beat the game until virtually every known quest available was beaten. I know there was one about finding a book and another about finding the whole decks of every Gwent card. There were a handful of chests dotting the map too. Not sure beyond that.

[Exposed]

I've been wanting to play that game again as well. I just can't get behind all the visual mods though. Most of the ones labeled as realism mods just make the game look worse, IMO. I spent 210hrs in the game in my play through and never once thought it needed more realism or better graphics.

If I were to do any changes playing through again on faster hardware, I'd use an editor to increase the flora count using the original assets (I thought the draw distance was poor) and improve the overall draw distance to reduce pop up, improve building textures at med to far distances, and LOD changes at close distance.

Other than that, it was a masterpiece better left alone, I think.

I think you're right. When I played Witcher 3 I would always stop every now and then to marvel at the scenery. I seen some of the texture packs for this game, and while they're higher resolution it changes them too much from the original textures. I swear alot of the wood and stone textures looked like they were ripped from Skyrim. I don't want ANY reminder of Skyrim in a Witcher game.

Reshading has worked well in alot of games though, so I might take a look at those mods.

[Exposed]

@Exposed: https://www.nexusmods.com/witcher3/m...ab=description
I recommend this!! It fixes the, at times, horrible LOD.

Ah, this one looks good. I'll check it out. Thanks!

[Miikkrusoff]

I've been working my way through this game. Getting close to the end now. One thing I can't understand is why people didn't complain more about the quest system. The game, for the most part, doesn't give you nearly enough information to complete a quest without using the mini map and the objective markers. The journal entries for the quests often give little to no info. Sometimes you're given directions by NPCs to complete an objective that are not even close to where you actually have to go.

Or I might get a quest but not actually get a chance to complete it for a long period of time. I've completely forgotten what the quest was about and the journal doesn't help at all. So once again, only way to solve the quest is to follow the objective markers. Very poorly put together in my opinion. I really dislike how much this game holds your hand with regards to questing. This is a major flaw and my largest gripe with the game.

[KAC]

Disables quest markers. Complains about lack of information.

[OverclockN']

I thought how the quests were handled was one of the best parts of the game. It's better than pretty much any other game out there.

[Lazy8s]

I need to fire it back up some day and check what I may have missed. I know it's not 100%, but it's super close. I didn't move on to beat the game until virtually every known quest available was beaten. I know there was one about finding a book and another about finding the whole decks of every Gwent card. There were a handful of chests dotting the map too. Not sure beyond that.

I might have hit around 90% the first time through, and that was tough tbh. Whether large bits, small or somewhere in between this game has so much content and is just massive lol. I'm not sure I have the staying power.

[KAC]

You gays making me want to revisit this crap.

[Nagorak]

I don't have that much sympathy for the author because:

1) He chose to ask for more money up front and not take a percentage thinking the game would flop. He could have split the difference but got greedy. I feel like he went in with a bad attitude about the whole thing so, tough **** at this point.

2) I don't think The Witcher has been successfully primarily because of the world it's in. It's a decent world, but not really that much of a step up from generic fantasy. There are other authors out there they could have found with equal or better settings that the game could have been based on, and it still would have been successful. The game itself is what's good, the background setting helps, but it wasn't what made the series.

2b) They could have probably also just come up with something in house "inspired" by the novels but different enough to not be an obvious rip off and also succeeded that way.


Don't get me wrong, the guy screwed up with his contract terms. But it is what it is now. I'm pretty sure the Netflix series and stuff wouldn't have happened except for the game too, so it's not like he didn't benefit in other ways. I'm sure his books sold more because of it too.

Every time there's an interview with this guy he's complaining, and honestly he should just look at the bright side at this point. Honestly the author really just seems like a douche to me in general.

[KAC]

Anyone seen any buggy behavior lately with quests? I'm working through Brothers in Arms now, and several times there is no indicator where Geralt is supposed to go on the map. Restarting the game has fixed it a couple of times, but it's repeating often enough to be a pain.

Uninstall and delete your save games.

[Lazy8s]

Me too still playing Witcher 3, wow that's pretty quick! I still in Skellige just finishing 'In Wolf Clothing'. Another quest with multiple outcome. This game is really complex, loved it!

It didn't matter yes, but once you finished all DLC stuff, you'll be overpowered for the main quest. Just doing some sidequest on main game and that makes me overpowered slightly (main quest is around level 17 while I'm at level 22).

My previous game I already finished the main story and into Blood and Wine and acquire mastercrafted Griffin gear. My Geralt never use any oil (don't hate me ) but I use sign A LOT. This gear suits me very well.

I use Feline gear on my current playthrough as I really wanted to master swordsplay. I kinda grasp on parry and counterattack a little bit (just a little)

Yeah insomnia lets me get lots of play time lol.

I'm doing the Sunstone quest now at level 32 using all superior Griffen gear, points heavy in swordplay, igni and quen. Really solid build so far and I have all the materials for mastercrafted gear, but not quite there on the level to use it yet.

I'm torn on using the potion to redistribute my points...this one is almost identical to what I beat the game with first time and I can't help but wonder how it would be with everything invested into sword + support, or all signs + crossbow maybe...I may make a couple of saves in case I don't like it and give it a try tonight.

And maybe it sounds sappy as heck , but I love the relationship between Geralt and Ciri, and with the exception of Triss I just despise the lodge. You really get invested into the characters here....that's awesome that they took the care to draw the player in like that.

[Apocalypsee]

Yeah insomnia lets me get lots of play time lol.

I'm doing the Sunstone quest now at level 32 using all superior Griffen gear, points heavy in swordplay, igni and quen. Really solid build so far and I have all the materials for mastercrafted gear, but not quite there on the level to use it yet.

I'm torn on using the potion to redistribute my points...this one is almost identical to what I beat the game with first time and I can't help but wonder how it would be with everything invested into sword + support, or all signs + crossbow maybe...I may make a couple of saves in case I don't like it and give it a try tonight.

And maybe it sounds sappy as heck , but I love the relationship between Geralt and Ciri, and with the exception of Triss I just despise the lodge. You really get invested into the characters here....that's awesome that they took the care to draw the player in like that.

After the In Wolf's Clothing I continued Yen quest and straight dump her, even after she feels the same way as before

I try to do different style on this playthorugh but I still can't be bothered finding different ingredient for oil. I better off maxing red mutagen for maximum effect. And I still didn't really try to play Gwent, can't really grasp into card game to be honest.

There are really some genuine feel in the game, like you are involved with it that gets you all emotional, the one between Ciri and Geralt is one of them like you said. I guess that's why I paly this game like 50+ hours since last week

[Lazy8s]

After the In Wolf's Clothing I continued Yen quest and straight dump her, even after she feels the same way as before

I try to do different style on this playthorugh but I still can't be bothered finding different ingredient for oil. I better off maxing red mutagen for maximum effect. And I still didn't really try to play Gwent, can't really grasp into card game to be honest.

There are really some genuine feel in the game, like you are involved with it that gets you all emotional, the one between Ciri and Geralt is one of them like you said. I guess that's why I paly this game like 50+ hours since last week

I don't feel as bad for the hours I put in now And for the record, I could never get the hang of Gwent either. I miss the old game.

[Apocalypsee]

I don't feel as bad for the hours I put in now And for the record, I could never get the hang of Gwent either. I miss the old game.

Yeah I don't feel bad, just watching the hours counter keeps going higher and higher

Back to Kaer Mohen, going to stick here longer and find the Wolf gear.

Thinking of continue playing the first one. Kinda felt off without knowing the true story though. I played it a little bit after playing the third one and it feels VERY rough compared the refinement on the third. I always played the game backward, KoTOR2 before KoTOR1, NOLF2 before NOLF and the downgrade is painful

[Lazy8s]

Yeah I don't feel bad, just watching the hours counter keeps going higher and higher

Back to Kaer Mohen, going to stick here longer and find the Wolf gear.

Thinking of continue playing the first one. Kinda felt off without knowing the true story though. I played it a little bit after playing the third one and it feels VERY rough compared the refinement on the third. I always played the game backward, KoTOR2 before KoTOR1, NOLF2 before NOLF and the downgrade is painful

I've heard a few say they didn't care for the first game, but I personally loved it. Graphical and control down grade of course, and it's much grindier imo, but I've played it 3 times to completion and just loved it.

I'm doing the Sunstone quest now mainly because it will level me to 34 fast -I only need about 800xp - so I can fully upgrade and use my gear, then I may go for all the other gear sets. I have a few pieces, but I want it all lol. Then I may start Hearts of Stone. I've not played any of the dlc yet.

[Nunz]

Witcher1 is a ... different game. It’s amazing how far CDPR has come from their first creation. I have never finished Witcher1 (or 2), for some reason I always get roughly halfway through Witcher1, then stop playing because of time commitments or something else, and then I lose my save. It’s irritating lol.

The Witcher 2 .. I had a bug or something on a fresh start the last time I tried to play where I couldn’t parry. It wouldn’t register the party button, so I couldn’t get past the early tutorial and promptly uninstalled it after that

[OverclockN']

I played through Witcher 1 and 2 when they were released and completed both of them. But I still went into Witcher 3 completely ignorant of the story. I couldn't remember anything from the first two games.i have a few screenshots in my memory from them and that's about it.

[Higgy10]

Witcher1 is a ... different game. It’s amazing how far CDPR has come from their first creation. I have never finished Witcher1 (or 2), for some reason I always get roughly halfway through Witcher1, then stop playing because of time commitments or something else, and then I lose my save. It’s irritating lol.

The Witcher 2 .. I had a bug or something on a fresh start the last time I tried to play where I couldn’t parry. It wouldn’t register the party button, so I couldn’t get past the early tutorial and promptly uninstalled it after that

i loved the first witcher, while it wasnt as pretty as 3 i thought the story was a bit better and the game was much more challenging. I felt 3 was far to easy and the skills have major balancing issues