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    This week's ATV seemed pretty good. Also, big reduction in their blocker list; though who knows what the blocker list will look like next week.
    THG is to computer hardware what MTV is to music.

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      DS has finally admitted it is fake, I feel like he tries way to hard to justify anything that supports his argument.

      Bug list went down this week. Seems likely that October could be Avocado release.

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        Originally posted by nutcrackr View Post
        DS has finally admitted it is fake, I feel like he tries way to hard to justify anything that supports his argument.

        Bug list went down this week. Seems likely that October could be Avocado release.


        He went on to admit it was him?

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          Originally posted by logical View Post
          He went on to admit it was him?
          No; but it was shown to be someone who was a regular at DS spots like his forum and his Discord server, someone who really hated this project.
          Originally posted by David O. McKay
          The home is the first and most effective place to learn the lessons of life: truth, honor, virtue, self control, the value of education, honest work, and the purpose and privilege of life. Nothing can take the place of home in rearing and teaching children, and no other success can compensate for failure in the home.
          Originally posted by Albert Einstein
          Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.

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            guys just stop by the IRL streams over at twitch. nothing surprised me anymore regarding peoples capacity to throw money at something. we've come to a very sad place .

            is crowd-funding still pretty much non-regulated?

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              Originally posted by Dungeoncrawler View Post
              guys just stop by the IRL streams over at twitch. nothing surprised me anymore regarding peoples capacity to throw money at something. we've come to a very sad place .

              is crowd-funding still pretty much non-regulated?
              Yes, and that is because it is still "new", it takes laws a long time to catch up with new technologies/ideas. Look at the EU and when it comes to laws dealing with digital content, digital content/downloads has been around more than a decade and it has only been fairly recently that the EU started to tackle laws to govern it.
              Originally posted by David O. McKay
              The home is the first and most effective place to learn the lessons of life: truth, honor, virtue, self control, the value of education, honest work, and the purpose and privilege of life. Nothing can take the place of home in rearing and teaching children, and no other success can compensate for failure in the home.
              Originally posted by Albert Einstein
              Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.

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                Originally posted by Eisberg View Post
                Yes, and that is because it is still "new", it takes laws a long time to catch up with new technologies/ideas. Look at the EU and when it comes to laws dealing with digital content, digital content/downloads has been around more than a decade and it has only been fairly recently that the EU started to tackle laws to govern it.
                I am a little disappointing in what UK regulations did to PCARS, though at least happy they didn't force them to give all the money back (just forced them to offer refunds to those that wanted them).

                It was nice to see an actual return on being an early adopter, instead of just the usual getting it in the rear.
                THG is to computer hardware what MTV is to music.

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                  Originally posted by aviphysics View Post
                  I am a little disappointing in what UK regulations did to PCARS, though at least happy they didn't force them to give all the money back (just forced them to offer refunds to those that wanted them).

                  It was nice to see an actual return on being an early adopter, instead of just the usual getting it in the rear.
                  What is PCARS and what is the story behind that?
                  Originally posted by David O. McKay
                  The home is the first and most effective place to learn the lessons of life: truth, honor, virtue, self control, the value of education, honest work, and the purpose and privilege of life. Nothing can take the place of home in rearing and teaching children, and no other success can compensate for failure in the home.
                  Originally posted by Albert Einstein
                  Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.

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                    Originally posted by Erin Roberts
                    I wanna get... I wanna go to Evocati... I wanna make sure the first thing we can do is ensure we can traverse the system easily and well, and that's all this set of bugs is about, is we... you know... from getting in, taking off, ATC working, QT-ing working, being able to go to locations, all that kinda stuff, we just get THAT working and so it's not... it's not a nightm... you know I'm not going into maps all the time and trying to work out where I can jump places and so forth... you can do that kind of stuff and we have what I think is a really good start for EVOCATI cos it's a lot of FUN, it's FUN.

                    You go down to planets you do some EVENTS. And THEN, once we get this set of twenty, you know, SIX bugs left, you know... and don't forget these are the 26 bugs I want fixed to go to EVOCATI with, but I'm SURE we'll fix a bunch of other STUFF, you know, at the same time and stuff like that... and then we basically go and get that in, and then once we get that set of BUGS... you know, those set of, uh, BUGS... then what we're gonna do again is sit... sit down with TARD and then say, 'Right! What's um... what's the next feature we wanna focus on', and then pick another say ten, twenty um... like FEATURES... let's get TRADING maybe working properly and then maybe... ten or fifteen features...

                    (A dev raises his hand to speak at this point and is ignored)

                    ... and we say right, here's the... here's the seventeen BUGS for that, that's the next release for EVOCATI, let's get all this stuff worked on and then we fix all sorts of stuff in the background, and we just basically PICK a FEATURE at a time, NAIL IT DOWN and just keep on going that way and that's how we're gonna close this out.
                    does that evoke confidence in you?
                    I guess it's the trend nowdays with games; either you are a hardcore PC GAME, or you live long enough to see yourself become a console port

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                      Originally posted by Eisberg View Post
                      What is PCARS and what is the story behind that?
                      Project C.A.R.S. is a crowd funded racing sim. They had a profit sharing agreement with their backers. They also had a lot of detractors and development issues.

                      The project ended up being pretty successful. I still get around 20 euros a quarter from them, though that isn't why I backed.
                      Last edited by aviphysics; Sep 15, 2017, 08:07 PM.
                      THG is to computer hardware what MTV is to music.

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                        I'm still mad they didn't put in the ovals.

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                          Originally posted by Napoleonic View Post
                          does that evoke confidence in you?
                          I am not exactly sure what the problem is. He is directing his developers on some things going forward. He isn't talking to us, and it is only snipet of an internal meeting.

                          Anyways, so people know where Derek Smart's Goon's made that transcript from, watch it for yourself, the link is where it starts.

                          https://youtu.be/FhywXu8vsuM?t=8m22s
                          Originally posted by David O. McKay
                          The home is the first and most effective place to learn the lessons of life: truth, honor, virtue, self control, the value of education, honest work, and the purpose and privilege of life. Nothing can take the place of home in rearing and teaching children, and no other success can compensate for failure in the home.
                          Originally posted by Albert Einstein
                          Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.

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                            Originally posted by Eisberg View Post
                            I am not exactly sure what the problem is. He is directing his developers on some things going forward. He isn't talking to us, and it is only snipet of an internal meeting.

                            Anyways, so people know where Derek Smart's Goon's made that transcript from, watch it for yourself, the link is where it starts.

                            https://youtu.be/FhywXu8vsuM?t=8m22s
                            The "transcript" he posted is far from accurate.
                            Last edited by aviphysics; Sep 15, 2017, 10:08 PM.
                            THG is to computer hardware what MTV is to music.

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                              Just found out there's a large sub reddit dedicated to refunds, lol. Just submitted mine for $75, let's hope!
                              Having kids kills your gaming :(
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                                Shame this game won't ever see the light of day. What a waste of talent.
                                RIP John Dunsworth

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                                  let's see what Sir Eisberg, Knight of Croberts, would say about this video

                                  [yt]uLE2eIu8Py0[/yt]

                                  I guess it's the trend nowdays with games; either you are a hardcore PC GAME, or you live long enough to see yourself become a console port

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                                    That might be the most annoying video I've ever partially watched. What a ****ing whiny little **** that guy is. As somebody who could care less about this game I can't see being that annoyed with software that isn't even out of alpha.
                                    RIP John Dunsworth

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                                      Most of the fun right now is in squadron battle. I have had a lot of fun hours flying with the great group of guys and gals in Legacy Fleet.

                                      I also know a few people that are really into Star Marine, though it isn't really my thing.

                                      If you aren't into arcade style PVP combat, there isn't much here yet. Still hoping that 3.0 will help fix that.
                                      Last edited by aviphysics; Sep 18, 2017, 06:25 AM.
                                      THG is to computer hardware what MTV is to music.

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                                        Originally posted by HyperNovae View Post
                                        That might be the most annoying video I've ever partially watched. What a ****ing whiny little **** that guy is. As somebody who could care less about this game I can't see being that annoyed with software that isn't even out of alpha.
                                        Well Napoleonic is a desciple of Derek Smart, and they love anything like that, since thier leader is far more wrong than he has ever been right, which has been like 95% of the time wrong, the other 5% he got right because everyone knew it anyways air he got it right because if his shot gun approach. So they'll latch on to stupid things that hardly anyone watches.
                                        Originally posted by David O. McKay
                                        The home is the first and most effective place to learn the lessons of life: truth, honor, virtue, self control, the value of education, honest work, and the purpose and privilege of life. Nothing can take the place of home in rearing and teaching children, and no other success can compensate for failure in the home.
                                        Originally posted by Albert Einstein
                                        Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.

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                                          Originally posted by Napoleonic View Post
                                          let's see what Sir Eisberg, Knight of Croberts, would say about this video

                                          [yt]uLE2eIu8Py0[/yt]

                                          maybe broken as crap but the ship does fly and turn like a spaceship and not like a F-15 in Jello like elite dangerous

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                                            Originally posted by Eisberg View Post
                                            Well Napoleonic is a desciple of Derek Smart, and they love anything like that, since thier leader is far more wrong than he has ever been right, which has been like 95% of the time wrong, the other 5% he got right because everyone knew it anyways air he got it right because if his shot gun approach. So they'll latch on to stupid things that hardly anyone watches.
                                            here is some more lols

                                            https://twitter.com/Yakaru/status/909673154431217664



                                            what's next? you would accuse another game developer as DS accomplice?

                                            I guess it's the trend nowdays with games; either you are a hardcore PC GAME, or you live long enough to see yourself become a console port

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                                              Originally posted by bill dennison View Post
                                              maybe broken as crap but the ship does fly and turn like a spaceship and not like a F-15 in Jello like elite dangerous
                                              Get better thrusters.

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                                                Originally posted by andino View Post
                                                Get better thrusters.
                                                they are not airplanes and should not fly anything like them .

                                                by that video star citizen seems to have gotten that right at least


                                                every time I play elite dangerous I want to bust a 500 buck joystick trying to turn
                                                Last edited by bill dennison; Sep 18, 2017, 11:27 AM.

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                                                  Originally posted by Napoleonic View Post
                                                  here is some more lols

                                                  https://twitter.com/Yakaru/status/909673154431217664



                                                  what's next? you would accuse another game developer as DS accomplice?

                                                  Your link doesnt work.
                                                  RIP John Dunsworth

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                                                    Originally posted by HyperNovae View Post
                                                    Your link doesnt work.
                                                    Works here.

                                                    Did you try plugin it in and then unplugging it again?
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                                                      That seemed to fix it.
                                                      RIP John Dunsworth

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                                                        https://www.reddit.com/r/starcitizen...done_with_our/

                                                        look at those.
                                                        I guess it's the trend nowdays with games; either you are a hardcore PC GAME, or you live long enough to see yourself become a console port

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                                                          Originally posted by Napoleonic View Post
                                                          You wouldn't look like a desciple of DS if you didn't post the same obscure videos/tweets that get very little views that just so happen to be the same ones as DS does before you, you also love, I mean seriously love, to find any thing negative about SC which more often than not you get from DS anyways.
                                                          Originally posted by David O. McKay
                                                          The home is the first and most effective place to learn the lessons of life: truth, honor, virtue, self control, the value of education, honest work, and the purpose and privilege of life. Nothing can take the place of home in rearing and teaching children, and no other success can compensate for failure in the home.
                                                          Originally posted by Albert Einstein
                                                          Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.

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                                                            Originally posted by Eisberg View Post
                                                            You wouldn't look like a desciple of DS if you didn't post the same obscure videos/tweets that get very little views that just so happen to be the same ones as DS does before you, you also love, I mean seriously love, to find any thing negative about SC which more often than not you get from DS anyways.


                                                            the lol keep flowing

                                                            [yt]crFonNn6Vkc[/yt]

                                                            Titanic is sinking for real.
                                                            I guess it's the trend nowdays with games; either you are a hardcore PC GAME, or you live long enough to see yourself become a console port

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                                                              You think that's bad?

                                                              Black Mesa is not being actively developed to finish the last 3rd of the game (that's been promised for the last 10 years), yet it's still being charged $20 on Steam, which is NEVER discounted during any steam sale.

                                                              This whole notion of funding games before they're released is a cesspool for disaster.

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                                                                Podcasters post negative videos about CIG / SC to get hits. It's an easy current target just like NMS, and sure way to get lots of hits and up the activity stream. Once someone gets this involved it's nigh on impossible to remain unaffected by emotions. It's good fun to watch.

                                                                People are enjoying it from both sides. Me, as a programmer, I'm enjoying the technical stuff. Lots of challenges and issues that hits home. Jira, burndown charts, it's all familiar
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                                                                  People who put thousands into SC on their own volition, now being dramatic. Sure.

                                                                  I mean how stupid do you have to be in the first place to feel like you needed to back the project with anything more than the basic pledge? I mean we all saw the Kickstarter goals were met and highly exceeded in a matter of days, as soon as the news hit the mainstream. So why invest thousands more after that point?
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                                                                    For more space aircraft jpegs of course!

                                                                    vroooooom


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                                                                      You missed the point, what matter is that the whales are waking up.
                                                                      I guess it's the trend nowdays with games; either you are a hardcore PC GAME, or you live long enough to see yourself become a console port

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                                                                        Originally posted by Napoleonic View Post
                                                                        You missed the point, what matter is that the whales are waking up.
                                                                        Haha, considering the 45k hoax, it is highly questionable how many of the refunding "whales" are actually even real whales and even if they were backers in the first place. But you Derek Smart goons will believe anything that is negative, you guys thrive on it.
                                                                        Originally posted by David O. McKay
                                                                        The home is the first and most effective place to learn the lessons of life: truth, honor, virtue, self control, the value of education, honest work, and the purpose and privilege of life. Nothing can take the place of home in rearing and teaching children, and no other success can compensate for failure in the home.
                                                                        Originally posted by Albert Einstein
                                                                        Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.

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                                                                          Originally posted by Eisberg View Post
                                                                          Haha, considering the 45k hoax, it is highly questionable how many of the refunding "whales" are actually even real whales and even if they were backers in the first place. But you Derek Smart goons will believe anything that is negative, you guys thrive on it.
                                                                          I guess it's the trend nowdays with games; either you are a hardcore PC GAME, or you live long enough to see yourself become a console port

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                                                                            get a room

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                                                                              Rage3D forum room, everyone's invited right?
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                                                                                Originally posted by logical View Post
                                                                                For more space aircraft jpegs of course!

                                                                                vroooooom

                                                                                lolz... again. .. still

                                                                                and

                                                                                Originally posted by Napoleonic View Post


                                                                                dont disturb the lettuce
                                                                                my graphics card is now a physx card ;
                                                                                my cpu is a quad toaster

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                                                                                  It is hilarious the terrible butt hurt caused by this game already.

                                                                                  People agreed to fund the development of a game being made by someone else (they presumably trust). You did not pay for control of the games development and if that was the case I for one would not want to fund it. I have not funded the game myself as I prefer to wait for games to be finalized and released before I see if I'm interested and willing to spend the cash.

                                                                                  I like the way the developer does not feel the need to react to every little rant or media drama, but just get on with realizing their goals.

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