Torchlight 2 Beta Keys

[H001iGAN]

How is the loot? I'm guessing it's a lot better then D3?

[RicH(SAD)]

I don't expect Torchlight 2 to beat D3 at release, but one significant advantage that Torchlight 2 has over Diablo 3 is that it has mod support. The first game had tons of mods and it was only a single player game.

[H-Alien]

having a blast aswell, then again I also had a blast with torchlight 1

it isn't earthshattering or groundbreakingly different, it is just extremely fun and incredibly streamlined.

[Kombatant]

I was expecting the beta not to be still working but it still seems to be going.

They extended it, which was a good call. It's ending today though.

As for the haters, just don't play it. I am playing it in parallel with Diablo and enjoying it immensely. Plus, it's nice to know my boss fight won't be interrupted because my adsl decided to re-sync

[H-Alien]

..what exactly were you expecting?

1) something that is actually fun, or
2) no mini game at all

right now it is the same boring mini game, with no skill required whatsoever. That's the reason why I play Torchlight 1 with the fish drop mod (enemies actually drop fish as loot every once in a while)

Ps. Total Biscuit is loving Torhclight 2

[Nascar24]

I was expecting the beta not to be still working but it still seems to be going.

[Cartigan]

The maps are also noticeably randomly generated now.

[spyre]

I played the beta for a bit, not bad but I think I will wait for a 33 or 50% off sale which shouldn't be too long. The Steam summer sale isn't far away so I may as well wait and pickup some bargains then.

[Cartigan]

You're the one bringing it up in the Torchlight 2 thread.

No, actually I wasn't. Look again.

Why aren't you playing the Torchlight beta? Bored already?

I already played for several hours. I've had to break to catch up on chores.

[BababooeyHTJ]

But Torchlight doesn't have anything to do with Diablo. That doesn't make sense at all. Perhaps you should start writing letters to Blizzard if you have nothing else to do while their server is down.

You're the one bringing it up in the Torchlight 2 thread. The servers are up for me. I haven't had any real problems since launch day and most of the people in the Diablo 3 thread seem pretty happy but you can imagine what you want.

Why aren't you playing the Torchlight beta? Bored already?

[Cartigan]

Well, at least we have Torchlight's graphics and plotline to make up for it.

But Torchlight doesn't have anything to do with Diablo. That doesn't make sense at all. Perhaps you should start writing letters to Blizzard if you have nothing else to do while their server is down.

[BababooeyHTJ]

Blizzard hasn't spent the last decade working on the plot. They've been working on evolving their graphics.. right?

Well, at least we have Torchlight's graphics and plotline to make up for it.

[Cartigan]

It doesn't really seem like a different game to me.

It seems like a game that is both eerily similar and eerily different - like a Chinese copy of a game where they are clearly violating as many copyrights as possible to make the game while not outright copying it down to the nails.
I'm not saying it's bad; I'm just describing it to the best of my ability.

Other than the Diablo plotline (really, they couldn't come up with something better than the "hero from the first one is now the villain in the second" plotline?),

Blizzard hasn't spent the last decade working on the plot. They've been working on evolving their graphics.. right?

I could be playing a continuation of the first game, and I wouldn't have noticed.

Isn't that the point?

[Bhruic]

There were a number of skills like that in Torchlight 1. I was surprised at the lack of skills that reduced equipment requirements.

Really? Hmm, it's been awhile since I played it, so I don't recall it well.

The best description is probably: This game is "Lantern Glow," the Chinese copy of Torchlight where the overall look and feel is the same but it's really a different game.

It doesn't really seem like a different game to me. Other than the Diablo plotline (really, they couldn't come up with something better than the "hero from the first one is now the villain in the second" plotline?), I could be playing a continuation of the first game, and I wouldn't have noticed. I mean, yeah, a few of the changes are ok - the ability of your pet to buy potions and stuff is decent. But I was expecting Diablo 1 -> 2 type changes, rather than L4D 1 -> 2 changes.

[Cartigan]

The skills, frankly, seem extremely poorly done. For example, one of the Embermage skills gives you X damage (based on your level) of every elemental type, plus a 10% chance of doing elemental DoTs. That's with 1 point in it. If you put a second point in, the skill does X damage (based on your level), plus an 11% chance of doing DoTs. So for 1 skill point, you get a whole extra 1% chance of DoTs. And there are quite a few skills where you get similar poor returns for point increases.

There were a number of skills like that in Torchlight 1. I was surprised at the lack of skills that reduced equipment requirements.

Frankly, the beta has felt like a letdown. I was hoping they'd take Torchlight 1 and really polish it, but it doesn't feel like that's what they've done.

The best description is probably: This game is "Lantern Glow," the Chinese copy of Torchlight where the overall look and feel is the same but it's really a different game.

+ there is a "use best potion" button, which I like. Unfortunately the fishing game is the same old, boring minigame.

..what exactly were you expecting?

[H-Alien]

I hate to tell you this but this is the TORCHLIGHT thread. You can tell it's not the Diablo thread because no one is complaining the Blizzard servers are down so they can't play. That makes YOU the one trolling.


Actually a good deal. The ability score system is completely different. Now only strength controls damage - for ranged and melee weapons. Dexterity just deals with critical chances and dodge and those kind of details. Focus is now Magic and it still deals with elemental damage but also helps you recover from "fumbles" (which I have yet to see) and has some other stuff. Vitality is defense and HP.

The pet now has its own specific "rings" and necklace and can't use "people" ones. And it can come back from town with potions and scrolls. There looks like a lot more magic spells - including passive ones that are basically skills.

The "fish" item panel is not "consumables" so your inventory won't be full of potions and scrolls if you don't have the spells for them. And also you can't combine gems any more. Presumably to encourage people to actually use them instead of hoarding them until they could combine them into awesome ones.

+ there is a "use best potion" button, which I like. Unfortunately the fishing game is the same old, boring minigame.

[Bhruic]

For the people playing the beta, what's the same/different?

Surprisingly little and a lot.

Frankly, the game feels like Torchlight 1 with multiplayer. Sadly, with a poorer skill system. They did make a few changes which have already been mentioned, but beyond that, it's really just an extension of what Torchlight 1 had.

The skills, frankly, seem extremely poorly done. For example, one of the Embermage skills gives you X damage (based on your level) of every elemental type, plus a 10% chance of doing elemental DoTs. That's with 1 point in it. If you put a second point in, the skill does X damage (based on your level), plus an 11% chance of doing DoTs. So for 1 skill point, you get a whole extra 1% chance of DoTs. And there are quite a few skills where you get similar poor returns for point increases.

Then there's another skill, forget what it's called, that does a really short range "stream" attack. Fine, except it's also got a knockback to it. So what you end up doing is hitting a mob with it, who's then pushed out range, causing you to stop attacking, move closer, then try and resume doing damage. It's a real pain in the ass.

Frankly, the beta has felt like a letdown. I was hoping they'd take Torchlight 1 and really polish it, but it doesn't feel like that's what they've done.

[Cartigan]

You're the one who seems to like to bring up Diablo 3 in every post so you're the one who bought it up actually.

Except I didn't, nice try though.

I'm actually not complaining about Torchlight 2. Unlike what you do in the Diablo 3 thread.

Technically, so is EVERYONE in the Diablo III thread because it keeps breaking and no one can play.

[BababooeyHTJ]

I hate to tell you this but this is the TORCHLIGHT thread. You can tell it's not the Diablo thread because no one is complaining the Blizzard servers are down so they can't play. That makes YOU the one trolling.

You're the one who seems to like to bring up Diablo 3 in every post so you're the one who bought it up actually.

I'm actually not complaining about Torchlight 2. Unlike what you do in the Diablo 3 thread.

[Cartigan]

Keep on trolling pal.

I hate to tell you this but this is the TORCHLIGHT thread. You can tell it's not the Diablo thread because no one is complaining the Blizzard servers are down so they can't play. That makes YOU the one trolling.

For the people playing the beta, what's the same/different?

Actually a good deal. The ability score system is completely different. Now only strength controls damage - for ranged and melee weapons. Dexterity just deals with critical chances and dodge and those kind of details. Focus is now Magic and it still deals with elemental damage but also helps you recover from "fumbles" (which I have yet to see) and has some other stuff. Vitality is defense and HP.

The pet now has its own specific "rings" and necklace and can't use "people" ones. And it can come back from town with potions and scrolls. There looks like a lot more magic spells - including passive ones that are basically skills.

The "fish" item panel is not "consumables" so your inventory won't be full of potions and scrolls if you don't have the spells for them. And also you can't combine gems any more. Presumably to encourage people to actually use them instead of hoarding them until they could combine them into awesome ones.

[BababooeyHTJ]

Keep on trolling pal.

Torchlight was a mediocre arpg. I'm sure that torchlight 2 will be a good game for the price but it has a long way to go live up to the better ARPGs on the market. You know that I'm right.

[YellowBeard]

You wouldn't have bought it anyways. You would have found some other excuse to complain.

He might not have, but I know I'd be playing it right now if it had offline single player.


For the people playing the beta, what's the same/different?

[Cartigan]

Yup, and the other is a low budget title developed in just over a year by a small team.

Oh right, to be a legit title it has to be priced arbitrarily high out of the average game title range and take an arbitrarily long time to make.
Must mean Diablo II was just an overpriced trash title because it took basically the same amount of time after Diablo as Torchlight II is taking after Torchlight.

Are the Blizzard servers down again so the only thing you have to do is go around on forums and put down other ARPGs to convince yourself that Diablo was worth it?

[BababooeyHTJ]

Of course they aren't comparable. One is Diablooooo!!!1111!11eleven

Yup, and the other is a low budget title developed in just over a year by a small team.

[Cartigan]

You act as if the two games are comparable having never played either.

Keep on trolling.

Of course they aren't comparable. One is Diablooooo!!!1111!11eleven

[BababooeyHTJ]

I don't have the nostalgic interest in Diablo to beg Blizzard to bend me over a barrel, thanks. I'll stick with Torchlight and save $40.

You act as if the two games are comparable having never played either.

Keep on trolling.

[Cartigan]

You wouldn't have bought it anyways. You would have found some other excuse to complain.

I don't have the nostalgic interest in Diablo to beg Blizzard to bend me over a barrel, thanks. I'll stick with Torchlight and save $40.

[BababooeyHTJ]

I would love to pay $60 for a game that I can only play when Blizzard's server are working, but I have to burn at least $60 in 1 dollar bills a month to keep away aliens.

You wouldn't have bought it anyways. You would have found some other excuse to complain.

[Cartigan]

Darkspore was a more indepth ARPG than torchlight.

Torchlight was a good time waster for the price but it was no top notch arpg, not by a long shot.

You do a lot of bitching about games that you've never played, btw.

I would love to pay $60 for a game that I can only play when Blizzard's server are working, but I have to burn at least $60 in 1 dollar bills a month to keep away aliens.

[BababooeyHTJ]

Exactly. Diablo III is for people who like Diablo. Torchlight 2 is for people who like good action RPGs for reasonable prices.

Darkspore was a more indepth ARPG than torchlight.

Torchlight was a good time waster for the price but it was no top notch arpg, not by a long shot.

You do a lot of bitching about games that you've never played, btw.

[Cartigan]

Have to say I like D3 better but its also $60 compared to $20. I will probably pickup torchlght 2 though for a $20.

Exactly. Diablo III is for people who like Diablo. Torchlight 2 is for people who like good action RPGs for reasonable prices.

[Nascar24]

have you played diablo 3 at all? im curious to hear an opinion from someone who played both but isn't hugely biased towards one.

Have to say I like D3 better but its also $60 compared to $20. I will probably pickup torchlght 2 though for a $20.

[Cartigan]

I had no problems whatsoever with the registration, you must have been unlucky.

Enjoying the beta, does look though that similar to Torchlight 1 , normal difficulty is actually super easy. Not sure if one can change the difficulty on the fly this time (without mods)

Torchlight didn't look bad. There are alot of design changes which are pretty good ideas. Except summonables don't jump through transitions any more, which is lame.

Have you tried Engineer? Gun bot is going to get the hell nerfed out of it.

[H-Alien]

I had no problems whatsoever with the registration, you must have been unlucky.

Enjoying the beta, does look though that similar to Torchlight 1 , normal difficulty is actually super easy. Not sure if one can change the difficulty on the fly this time (without mods)

[Cartigan]

The guys over at Runic have just started an open beta weekend, many people are getting keys (me included):

So go register over at https://secure.runicgames.com !

After it took them literally all ****ing day to recognize my account registration, I got in to the beta. Good thing it lasts til Tuesday.

[GanjaStar]

thx for the link

[H-Alien]

Have the beta ready to play, but haven't played the diablo 3 beta or game, so can't compare.

There is a rather nice TL2 beta review on the runic games fansite (beware massive amounts of text).

Althought the name suggests otherwise it is a rather nice review which compares it to diablo 3 here and there in a rather unbiased way (basically, TL 2 gameplay is great but it doesn't have the mood and athmosphere of diablo 3 and the storytelling is rather poor comparing to diablo 3)

[GanjaStar]

Played for several hours today. They have a winner in their hands

have you played diablo 3 at all? im curious to hear an opinion from someone who played both but isn't hugely biased towards one.

[Kombatant]

Played for several hours today. They have a winner in their hands

[spindoctor]

yea i got a beta key too but i'm too deep into diablo 3 to care much about torchlight 2 right now. if anyone wants it, just let me know. i should mention this... the email i got says that the beta is already activated on my runic account, but then they give a key along with the email too. so i'm not really sure if the key will work for someone else's account.