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    Originally posted by lmchv View Post
    That's because MS "officialy" supports the installation on computers that comply with some of the requirements (ie TPM 1.2) but with disclaimers. You just have to check some acknowledgement checks before the instalation starts.

    I had a different experience on the 3 unsupported computers I upgraded:
    • My daughter's laptop (7th gen, 16GB RAM, TPM 1.2) -> update from Win10 to Win11 with disclaimers using unmodified ISO.
    • My old Surface Pro 3 (4th gen, 8GB RAM, TPM 1.2) -> clean install with disclaimers using unmodified ISO.
    • My wife's X99 desktop (5th gen, 32GB RAM, NO TPM) -> had to modifiy the installer to be able to do an in-place upgrade from Win10 to Win11 with disclaimers.


    My other computers: Surface Pro 6 (8th gen, 8GB RAM, TPM 2.0), son's laptop (8th gen, 16GB RAM, TPM 2.0) and my main desktop (9th gen, 32GB RAM, TPM 2.0) upgraded directly from Windows Update
    Interesting....the Optiplex 3020 I tested didn't give me any disclaimers (which I know is not officially supported with the 4th gen i5).

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      Originally posted by Megaman View Post
      Thanks bro.


      EDIT: Done and now it ticks all the boxes
      Awesome, glad it worked.

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        Upgraded my gaming PC no problem but my 2 year old Dell Laptop with a Ryzen 5 2500 fails because the CPU is unsupported. Total BS it has TPM 2.0 but the CPU doesn't cut it. Madness what are M$ thinking? Am I going t buy a new laptop just to run Win 11 Win 11 can disappear up it's own ar*e for all I care.
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          So I didn’t think I would really care for 11, but I was wrong. The install was fast and painless, laptop is even snappier than it was, and everything, literally everything is working flawlessly.

          I don’t think I’ll be rolling back to Win 10….

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            I'm impressed by auto hdr, it more or less looks like native hdr in some titles.

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              Originally posted by Mangler View Post
              I'm impressed by auto hdr, it more or less looks like native hdr in some titles.
              This. I'm surprised it works this well.

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                Originally posted by x-voodoo View Post
                Interesting....the Optiplex 3020 I tested didn't give me any disclaimers (which I know is not officially supported with the 4th gen i5).
                are you sure?, the disclaimer is a waiver you need to accept halfway the install process, right before the copy of the files starts.

                It's something like this: https://www.windowscentral.com/sites...-11-waiver.jpg
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                  So they fixed the Ryzen issues now? Safe to install?

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                    Originally posted by KAC View Post
                    So they fixed the Ryzen issues now? Safe to install?
                    Yeah I think that was over a week ago. Pull the trigger.

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                      yeah no issues same frame rates as 10
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                        Originally posted by Evileh View Post
                        yeah no issues same frame rates as 10
                        That’s coz you on a shitty processor. It’s a 5000 series issue.

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                          The windows 10 install on my desktop is older than the hills at this point and is set with legacy (non UEFI) too.

                          I'd like to create some install media on a thumbdrive and completely reinstall 11 from scratch and upgrade.

                          What about keys? I'm using OEM windows 10 key. How much is this gonna cost me to update?

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                            Originally posted by Riptide View Post
                            The windows 10 install on my desktop is older than the hills at this point and is set with legacy (non UEFI) too.

                            I'd like to create some install media on a thumbdrive and completely reinstall 11 from scratch and upgrade.

                            What about keys? I'm using OEM windows 10 key. How much is this gonna cost me to update?
                            Link to Windows 11 MCT to create or download your ISO.
                            https://www.microsoft.com/software-download/windows11

                            I think Win11 uses the same key as Win10 or should auto-activate when you reinstall Win11.

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                              Yah the issue is I'm using an OEM key for my 10 install. Google doesn't seem real clear on my search results for that issue.

                              If I buy a windows 10 oem key for example can it be used to activate windows 11 on a bare metal install? I am assuming no, and you'd have to buy a full pro license.

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                                Originally posted by Riptide View Post
                                Yah the issue is I'm using an OEM key for my 10 install. Google doesn't seem real clear on my search results for that issue.

                                If I buy a windows 10 oem key for example can it be used to activate windows 11 on a bare metal install? I am assuming no, and you'd have to buy a full pro license.
                                If you have a spare hard drive try installing Win11 on that. Then check the activation status and if it says "Windows is activated" you're good to go when you do the real install on your current hard drive.

                                Just make sure you install the same version you had with Win10 (if you had Win10 home, install Win11 Home.....or if you had Win10 Pro, then Win11 Pro, etc)

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                                  If this information is accurate it looks like I cannot activate Windows 11 with a Windows 10 key.

                                  https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/ans...indows-11.html

                                  The workaround for this would be to do a fresh Windows 10 installation, activate it with an OEM key, and then perform the upgrade.

                                  Not a huge deal just not exactly what I'd hoped for..

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                                    Originally posted by Riptide View Post
                                    If this information is accurate it looks like I cannot activate Windows 11 with a Windows 10 key.

                                    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/ans...indows-11.html

                                    The workaround for this would be to do a fresh Windows 10 installation, activate it with an OEM key, and then perform the upgrade.

                                    Not a huge deal just not exactly what I'd hoped for..
                                    Found this in the link you provided.......

                                    Can I use a Windows 10 product key to activate Windows 11?

                                    Yes, users can activate Windows 11 using a Windows 10 product key. If your system already has an assigned digital license for Windows 10, it should automatically activate.

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                                      Further down, discussing bare metal (clean) installs:
                                      No, this scenario is applicable only if you already installed Windows 10 and it has been activated.
                                      You won't be able to use Windows 10 product key to activate Windows 11 this way and it is only possible if Windows 10 already been installed and activated.
                                      As a workaround, you may install Windows 10 and activate it and then upgrade to Windows 11.
                                      Looks like you would still need to use a workaround for it.

                                      In the end I found a Windows 11 pro OEM key for $15 and picked one up. Same place I bought my last Windows 10 pro OEM key from.

                                      Have got most items backed up and am getting ready, will probably start the process next week while I'm off work and after the holiday. There will need to be some changes in the BIOS for this to install, enabling UEFI and secure boot I'm assuming. Will need to research a bit more.

                                      Some of my apps (logitech ghub, corsair icue, nzxt cam, etc.) don't have explicit windows 11 support so this should be interesting.. There may be some issues with those.

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                                        the real question is: why bother with it right now?


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                                          I'm stuck at 8% download Should only be a 20 minute upgrade.

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                                            Got it installed last night over a few hours. Only issue I had was with iCue which I was eventually able to get working. Downloading far cry 6 and master chief collection this morning. Goal is to get both of those finished while I'm off next week.

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                                              What was your issue with iCue? I love that app but man I’m getting tired of trying to make it find devices after uninstalling ASUS SyNc and Icue. Something I did as part of the fresh install.

                                              It doesn’t find my motherboard or GPU.
                                              Last edited by Megaman; Dec 24, 2021, 08:41 PM.

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                                                Don’t use Asus apps. They are terribad.

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                                                  Originally posted by Megaman View Post
                                                  What was your issue with iCue?
                                                  I installed iCue first. Then read the instructions that you need to load armoury crate to get into aura sync. I loaded armoury crate up and followed the instructions to flip the switch enabling it in game or some such setting which you can find in aura sync. Things still weren't working, iCue didn't detect my motherboard or header RGB strip. Only the corsair fans.

                                                  After multiple reboots I closed iCue, went back into armoury crate, and found that the toggle switch had somehow been set back to the default (off). I went ahead and applied the setting I wanted (static) in aura sync for my header and motherboard. Then flipped the switch and closed out. Re-opened iCue and it's been fine ever since.

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                                                    Trying to get these apps to pick up your hardware has been such a pain in the arse for a while for me and others. I managed to work out how to get them all to detect hardware again.

                                                    Basically, when you install iCue it generally doesn't find hardware that is not Corsair. Same with Aura Sync (I had Aura Sync not detect my ASUS board ). For example in my case, G skill ram, ASUS motherboard and ASUS GPU and Corsair everything else, fans, controllers, CPU cooler, LS100 strips, RGB strips, Head set stand and PSU.

                                                    The RAM doesn't appear in AURA, the Motherboard and GPU don't appear in iCue.

                                                    This is what I did to make the apps detect hardware. What you want to do is install iCUe, at this point only Corsair gear is detected. You then install AURA and let it detect the ASUS GPU/Motherboard. You will then find iCue can now see the GPU and Motherboard.


                                                    From there the Trident Z RGB controller app for the RAM is installed, RAM detected there which is then detected in AURA. Once done, uninstall Trident Z RGB and only use AURA to control RAM RGB. iCue is used for everything else apart from RAM.

                                                    The key is to get the system to detect your RGB components using their own software and then the others will detect them. I had issues where I'd install the apps and things wouldn't show up, prompting me to waste time installing older versions/reinstalling iCue in different orders etc only to find nothing would work

                                                    If I knew this was thew case I would have saved myself hours.
                                                    Last edited by Megaman; Dec 25, 2021, 04:50 PM.

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                                                      You should probably just uninstall all those garbage apps that increase latency, reduce performance, and in the case of iCue in particular, can cause hitching in games.

                                                      You guys and your rgb.. lol..
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                                                        You should only need to run AURA and iCue, the rest is for the bin, however both of those apps I have off 90% of the time. None run in the back ground. The only time they run is when I need to impress the kids and their other 5 to 8 year old friends otherwise they are off during gaming.


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                                                          Originally posted by Nunz View Post
                                                          You should probably just uninstall all those garbage apps that increase latency, reduce performance, and in the case of iCue in particular, can cause hitching in games.

                                                          You guys and your rgb.. lol..
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                                                            Originally posted by acroig View Post
                                                            RGB is for gays.
                                                            Your EVGA 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Gaming has a nice set of RGB on it……welcome to the club my child.

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                                                                ICUE has become a bloat. I install it only to set RPM and then uninstall the app. It even has Corsair music, mice and other crap running in background and I don’t have any Corsair music, mice or other crap.

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                                                                  Well, looks like the latest Windows 11 update broke my Winamp Milkdrop visualizer. I have it set up to run the visualizer on my secondary screen, but when I fire it up the State Repository service goes bonkers and sucks up 90% of my CPU time. It kind of did this before sometimes, but if I restarted the service it would behave. Now it just goes right back to insanity.

                                                                  Yeah, I know "[sarcasm] OMG, a new OS breaks compatibility with 15 year old legacy software [/sarcasm]"

                                                                  I have also noticed it has a bit higher background CPU usage, although I have a ton of self-inflicted background bloatware going (I like animated desktops, glowy keyboards, and RGB, thank you). It does seem to do a good job of getting all that stuff out of the way while gaming, 'tho, so really the result is that it just idles a little warmer.
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                                                                    Anyone else using Ampere GPU and getting Nvidia driver crashes?

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                                                                      Originally posted by Megaman View Post
                                                                      Anyone else using Ampere GPU and getting Nvidia driver crashes?
                                                                      Not a single driver crash here. Mine’s a mobile chip though (3060) and have been upgrading drivers to the latest version as they become available.

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                                                                        Originally posted by Megaman View Post
                                                                        Anyone else using Ampere GPU and getting Nvidia driver crashes?
                                                                        Which game?

                                                                        Got no crashes lately.

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                                                                          Bf 2042 and control.

                                                                          Both worked fine prior to the move to 11 using the 3080.

                                                                          It’s either windows or the motherboard needs more love in the BIOS/driver department since it’s new.

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                                                                            Originally posted by Megaman View Post
                                                                            Bf 2042 and control.

                                                                            Both worked fine prior to the move to 11 using the 3080.

                                                                            It’s either windows or the motherboard needs more love in the BIOS/driver department since it’s new.
                                                                            What drivers are you using? I've got both games (BF2042 is 10 hours EA Vault) but haven't played them yet. I'll give them a try this week as I'm off till 6th January.
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                                                                              Originally posted by LordHawkwind View Post
                                                                              What drivers are you using? I've got both games (BF2042 is 10 hours EA Vault) but haven't played them yet. I'll give them a try this week as I'm off till 6th January.
                                                                              The latest. 497.29. Yeah let me know if you experience the same.


                                                                              I found a post where a bloke using my board contacted ROG to tell them the latest BIOS is causing instability and crashing (didn’t mention gaming) when XMP is enabled. I too am On the latest BIOS. Reverting the update fixes it.

                                                                              I have turned off XMP for now and will continue playing and see how it goes.

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                                                                                Originally posted by Megaman View Post
                                                                                Your EVGA 3080 Ti FTW3 Ultra Gaming has a nice set of RGB on it……welcome to the club my child.


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                                                                                  Originally posted by Megaman View Post
                                                                                  Anyone else using Ampere GPU and getting Nvidia driver crashes?
                                                                                  No crashes, latest driver
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