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    Originally posted by Lazy8s View Post
    The official nag icon (Windows 11 is ready!) has appeared in my taskbar.

    Now I can’t upgrade. Out of principle.


    Maybe I should backup win 10 first….:bleh:
    Nah. You need to go all in like KAC.

    The jokes are too easy for that one.
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      Originally posted by Munkus View Post
      Nah. You need to go all in like KAC.

      The jokes are too easy for that one.

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        Originally posted by Meteor_of_War View Post
        You have me worried MS is going to start upgrading Win 10 machines without consent. I think they did that with Win 8 on Win 7 machines back in the day.

        I swear if I wake up one of these mornings with Windows 11 I'll be pissed.
        I would be extremely angry if they pulled that on me. I certainly hope they don’t go down that road again.

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          You can turn off automatic updates.

          Also the reason my Intel doesn’t get a backup is because it only has games on it and 9/10 games have cloud backups. Plus it only does mining 90% of the time.

          But yes, I like to joke as well.

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            Haven’t seen this but will check it out later.


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              Originally posted by Meteor_of_War View Post
              You have me worried MS is going to start upgrading Win 10 machines without consent. I think they did that with Win 8 on Win 7 machines back in the day.

              I swear if I wake up one of these mornings with Windows 11 I'll be pissed.
              Don't remember them doing that. I do remember people crying because Windows Update would download the upgrade files and have them ready, so that if you did decide to upgrade, it could skip the GB download and make the process faster.
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                Originally posted by Nunz View Post
                Don't remember them doing that. I do remember people crying because Windows Update would download the upgrade files and have them ready, so that if you did decide to upgrade, it could skip the GB download and make the process faster.
                I think it was actually with Windows 7/8 machines automatically upgrading to Windows 10. I know because it happened on my mother-in-law's laptop.

                Turned out if you had the "Give me recommended updates" setting enabled under Windows update it would eventually download AND install Windows 10 automatically.

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                  Getting a ton of crashes in COD CW with windows 11. **** this shite.

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                    Originally posted by KAC View Post
                    Getting a ton of crashes in COD CW with windows 11. **** this shite.
                    User error, obviously.

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                      Originally posted by KAC View Post
                      Getting a ton of crashes in COD CW with windows 11. **** this shite.
                      Turn off all your RGB.
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                        Originally posted by Munkus View Post
                        Turn off all your RGB.
                        Or fix the cable management behind the rear case door.

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                          Originally posted by acroig View Post
                          User error, obviously.
                          Peb….. KAC?


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                              It’s a known issue.

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                                Originally posted by KAC View Post
                                It’s a known issue.
                                User error? Yes.

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                                  Originally posted by acroig View Post
                                  Alien: Isolation with Auto HDR is
                                  Originally posted by acroig View Post
                                  Odd, not here. You have the latest nV driver?
                                  I see you have a similar motherboard to what I have.

                                  Is it worth it to upgrade to Windows 11 at this time?

                                  Microsoft said I'm ready .
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                                    Originally posted by NIGELG View Post
                                    I see you have a similar motherboard to what I have.

                                    Is it worth it to upgrade to Windows 11 at this time?

                                    Microsoft said I'm ready .
                                    Only reason I did it was to get auto HDR. Otherwise I'd say wait since KAC says there are issues.

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                                      Originally posted by NIGELG View Post
                                      I see you have a similar motherboard to what I have.

                                      Is it worth it to upgrade to Windows 11 at this time?

                                      Microsoft said I'm ready .
                                      Besides auto-HDR, which is very cool, and DirectStorage, which developers have yet to incorporate into any games that I'm aware of, there are no "must-have" benefits to Win 11. If Win 10 is working well for you, then I'd stick with it.
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                                        Originally posted by Munkus View Post
                                        Besides auto-HDR, which is very cool, and DirectStorage, which developers have yet to incorporate into any games that I'm aware of, there are no "must-have" benefits to Win 11. If Win 10 is working well for you, then I'd stick with it.
                                        This.

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                                          I have an HDR monitor.
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                                            I have been leaving HDR on on windows 10 for the past couple years withought any issues. The desktop images look fine, games that support it work properly and games that don't work properly as well. The only thing with leaving it on is that SDR overlays while playing HDR games will be overly saturated. I had the issues of the overly saturated desktop and whatnot if left on initially but that has been fixed for quite some time now.

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                                              Originally posted by NIGELG View Post
                                              I have an HDR monitor.
                                              Then I'd do it, you can always go back to 10.

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                                                Maybe I’ll try it and see if there’s any improvement with the HDR. Is there any real downfall for gaming?

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                                                  Originally posted by jimjobob View Post
                                                  Maybe I’ll try it and see if there’s any improvement with the HDR. Is there any real downfall for gaming?
                                                  No. Well, not anymore. There was if you had an AMD CPU, but that's been fixed AFAIK. Games generally run as well as they did on Win10, because it basically IS Win10 with a new skin.

                                                  EDIT: Correction. Win11 is actually a step backwards in the UI department. Win10 had a much more configurable taskbar, Start menu, and better right-click menus. I don't know WTF Microsoft was thinking with those changes. Has nothing to do with gaming, but I had to install 3rd Party apps and make registry changes to bring back the old functionality of the desktop and Start menu.
                                                  Last edited by Munkus; Oct 29, 2021, 03:26 PM.
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                                                    Definitely is some stupid changes to the right click menus, things I used all the time no longer there.

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                                                      Originally posted by jimjobob View Post
                                                      Maybe I’ll try it and see if there’s any improvement with the HDR. Is there any real downfall for gaming?
                                                      Not that I can tell but some here report games are crashing for them.

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                                                        Originally posted by Nascar24 View Post
                                                        Definitely is some stupid changes to the right click menus, things I used all the time no longer there.
                                                        Here you go.



                                                        I'll be grabbing a backup drive sometime this week so I can do a proper backup and move to 11. I'm not expecting any issues as a friend here has the same exact laptop and has had no issues.

                                                        Time to get it done.

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                                                          I just jumped onto Windows 11 and found a bit of an issue with the State Repository Service - it goes absolutely berserk and uses all remaining CPU resources. I tried using SFC in the command prompt (SFC /SCANNOW) which kinda-sorta helped but didn't. It found errors, and now instead of permanently going crazy until I restart the service, it sorts itself out after a couple minutes or so.

                                                          It's apparently a known issue, but I only really run into it under very specific circumstances. If I start streaming music, then start Winamp, then set Winamp to use the line-in input, and then start the Milkdrop 2 visualizer to display on my secondary monitor, then it freaks out. It doesn't seem to matter which video card the secondary monitor is plugged into.

                                                          Otherwise, the new version of Windows seems pretty solid, at least for me.
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                                                              I finally upgraded my last computer to Windows 11, it is an old X99 with a Haswell-E processor. This computer does not have a TPM (1.2 or 2.0) and had to jump through a couple more loops to install it, wanted to get the module (the MB supports it) but they do not exist on the Internet anymore...

                                                              So far is running great, quite a capable machine and extremely fast. I installed a NVME drive on it prior the upgrade as well.

                                                              In summary, I upgraded 6 machines at home (3 compliant and 3 non-compliant), security updates are coming through Windows Update no issues.
                                                              BEHEMOTH (Desktop): Asus ROG Maximus Z690 Formula | Intel Core i9 12900K + Asus ROG Strix LC 240 | Kingston Fury 64GB DDR5-5200 | LG 27GN950-b 4K@160 | PowerColor Red Devil Radeon RX 6900 XT 16GB | CoolerMaster Cosmos C700P + Asus ROG Thor 1200W Platinum | Sound Blaster X AE-5 + Edifier R1280DBs + Edifier T5 + Logitech G935 | HyperX Alloy Elite RGB CherryMX Red + Logitech G502 Lightspeed + Logitech Powerplay | Samsung 980 Pro NVMe SSD 2TB + Samsung 970 Evo Plus NVMe SSD 2TB | LG BD-RE | Windows 11 Pro

                                                              Charquito (Desktop): Asus ROG Maximus XI Formula | Intel Core i9 9900K @ 5.0Ghz + Asus ROG Ryuo 240 | Corsair Ballistic 32GB DDR4-3000 | Dell U2713HM 27" | Asus ROG Strix Geforce GTX1080| Cooler Master Cosmos 2 + Thermaltake Toughpower 1200W | Logitech MK850 Performance | Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 512GB | Sony BD-ROM | Windows 11 Pro

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                                                                Seems there are ways to upgrade an unsupported PC to Windows 11 from Windows 10. But how would you do a clean install of Windows 11 on an unsupported PC?

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                                                                  Originally posted by Kain View Post
                                                                  Seems there are ways to upgrade an unsupported PC to Windows 11 from Windows 10. But how would you do a clean install of Windows 11 on an unsupported PC?
                                                                  Just modify the installer, it's quite simple to do. Rufus offers some preset profiles to create installers with the registry hacks embedded. This is what I did to update my last computer, as the registry hacks I had didn't work (because it didnt have a TPM at all)
                                                                  BEHEMOTH (Desktop): Asus ROG Maximus Z690 Formula | Intel Core i9 12900K + Asus ROG Strix LC 240 | Kingston Fury 64GB DDR5-5200 | LG 27GN950-b 4K@160 | PowerColor Red Devil Radeon RX 6900 XT 16GB | CoolerMaster Cosmos C700P + Asus ROG Thor 1200W Platinum | Sound Blaster X AE-5 + Edifier R1280DBs + Edifier T5 + Logitech G935 | HyperX Alloy Elite RGB CherryMX Red + Logitech G502 Lightspeed + Logitech Powerplay | Samsung 980 Pro NVMe SSD 2TB + Samsung 970 Evo Plus NVMe SSD 2TB | LG BD-RE | Windows 11 Pro

                                                                  Charquito (Desktop): Asus ROG Maximus XI Formula | Intel Core i9 9900K @ 5.0Ghz + Asus ROG Ryuo 240 | Corsair Ballistic 32GB DDR4-3000 | Dell U2713HM 27" | Asus ROG Strix Geforce GTX1080| Cooler Master Cosmos 2 + Thermaltake Toughpower 1200W | Logitech MK850 Performance | Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 512GB | Sony BD-ROM | Windows 11 Pro

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                                                                    I did a test to see if my PC will support Win 11 however it comes back saying Secure Boot is not enabled. Looking at system information I see secure boot is “not supported”. My motherboard does support Windows 11 and so does my 8700k.

                                                                    In UEFI BIOS it says secure boot is enabled.

                                                                    My BIOS was upgraded to the win11 release a few weeks back.

                                                                    WTF is is the go?




                                                                    EDIT: I think it is just the way Win10 was installed on this mission it was setup with LEgacy BIOS and the nice way to revert this to UEFI BIOS is to reinstall Win10 but if I just need a clean install with the Win11 media creation USB it will just sort itself out. I think I just need to ignore the msssage I'm seeing with the Win 11 compatibility verification tool.
                                                                    Last edited by Megaman; Nov 4, 2021, 12:40 AM.

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                                                                      Originally posted by Megaman View Post
                                                                      EDIT: I think it is just the way Win10 was installed on this mission it was setup with LEgacy BIOS and the nice way to revert this to UEFI BIOS is to reinstall Win10 but if I just need a clean install with the Win11 media creation USB it will just sort itself out. I think I just need to ignore the msssage I'm seeing with the Win 11 compatibility verification tool.
                                                                      No need to reinstall, UEFI can be converted from the command line.

                                                                      I'd post a link on how to do it but I know you don't like that.

                                                                      LOL: https://www.maketecheasier.com/conve...efi-windows10/

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                                                                        MS, plz bring auto-hdr to win10, win11 isn't looking that hot in those intel 12th gen reviews.

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                                                                          Originally posted by Mangler View Post
                                                                          MS, plz bring auto-hdr to win10, win11 isn't looking that hot in those intel 12th gen reviews.
                                                                          No dice there, MS said Win 11 only. That's the only reason I switched.

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                                                                            That blow, especially when they did the auto-hdr beta testing on win10.

                                                                            Oh well, I guess win11 will eventually be on par with 10.

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                                                                              Originally posted by acroig View Post
                                                                              No need to reinstall, UEFI can be converted from the command line.

                                                                              I'd post a link on how to do it but I know you don't like that.

                                                                              LOL: https://www.maketecheasier.com/conve...efi-windows10/
                                                                              Thanks bro.


                                                                              EDIT: Done and now it ticks all the boxes
                                                                              Last edited by Megaman; Nov 4, 2021, 04:45 PM.

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                                                                                Originally posted by Kain View Post
                                                                                Seems there are ways to upgrade an unsupported PC to Windows 11 from Windows 10. But how would you do a clean install of Windows 11 on an unsupported PC?
                                                                                I tried on a spare machine at work, Optiplex 3020 with 4th gen i5. After enablng UEFI, secure boot, and TPM (1.2), I was able to do a clean install with the OFFICIAL iso from Microsoft's official MCT. No hacks, no tricks, it just worked.....

                                                                                However I'm still not brave enough to upgrade my 6700k HTPC gaming computer....

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                                                                                  Originally posted by x-voodoo View Post
                                                                                  I tried on a spare machine at work, Optiplex 3020 with 4th gen i5. After enablng UEFI, secure boot, and TPM (1.2), I was able to do a clean install with the OFFICIAL iso from Microsoft's official MCT. No hacks, no tricks, it just worked.....

                                                                                  However I'm still not brave enough to upgrade my 6700k HTPC gaming computer....
                                                                                  That's because MS "officialy" supports the installation on computers that comply with some of the requirements (ie TPM 1.2) but with disclaimers. You just have to check some acknowledgement checks before the instalation starts.

                                                                                  I had a different experience on the 3 unsupported computers I upgraded:
                                                                                  • My daughter's laptop (7th gen, 16GB RAM, TPM 1.2) -> update from Win10 to Win11 with disclaimers using unmodified ISO.
                                                                                  • My old Surface Pro 3 (4th gen, 8GB RAM, TPM 1.2) -> clean install with disclaimers using unmodified ISO.
                                                                                  • My wife's X99 desktop (5th gen, 32GB RAM, NO TPM) -> had to modifiy the installer to be able to do an in-place upgrade from Win10 to Win11 with disclaimers.


                                                                                  My other computers: Surface Pro 6 (8th gen, 8GB RAM, TPM 2.0), son's laptop (8th gen, 16GB RAM, TPM 2.0) and my main desktop (9th gen, 32GB RAM, TPM 2.0) upgraded directly from Windows Update
                                                                                  Last edited by lmchv; Nov 6, 2021, 02:06 PM.
                                                                                  BEHEMOTH (Desktop): Asus ROG Maximus Z690 Formula | Intel Core i9 12900K + Asus ROG Strix LC 240 | Kingston Fury 64GB DDR5-5200 | LG 27GN950-b 4K@160 | PowerColor Red Devil Radeon RX 6900 XT 16GB | CoolerMaster Cosmos C700P + Asus ROG Thor 1200W Platinum | Sound Blaster X AE-5 + Edifier R1280DBs + Edifier T5 + Logitech G935 | HyperX Alloy Elite RGB CherryMX Red + Logitech G502 Lightspeed + Logitech Powerplay | Samsung 980 Pro NVMe SSD 2TB + Samsung 970 Evo Plus NVMe SSD 2TB | LG BD-RE | Windows 11 Pro

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