Installing Win11 now...

[Lupine]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/wi...n-l3-cache-fix

Thanks Bill.

[Mangler]

Isn't the Cache fix supposed to be included in update coming tomorrow?

[pax]

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Can't open Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order on Win 11 + Z590 + 11900K + Origin Client. Any tips?

On Win 11 + X570+ 5900X + Origin Client it works. It looks like I'm facing more problems on the Intel system.
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Another thing: massive fps drops with Hitman 3 and ResBar enabled. On the Ryzen sys it just works.

Win 11 has growing pains doesnt matter the platform you're using.

[Lupine]

Now he's really screwed. Intel sucks. AMD sucks. 3rd option anyone?

edit: sorry lol, couldn't resist.

[acroig]

Now he's really screwed. Intel sucks. AMD sucks. 3rd option anyone?

edit: sorry lol, couldn't resist.

[dodger]

Now he's really screwed. Intel sucks. AMD sucks. 3rd option anyone?

edit: sorry lol, couldn't resist.

M1 Pro or M1 Max!

[Lupine]

M1 Pro or M1 Max!

He might find installing Win11 there challenging as well!

[Lazy8s]

Now he's really screwed. Intel sucks. AMD sucks. 3rd option anyone?

edit: sorry lol, couldn't resist.

[Lazy8s]

We need to be in the insider program to get that AMD patch per this.

https://www.techadvisor.com/news/windows/windows-11-amd-ryzen-performance-issues-fix-3809522/

I’m still going to wait it out a bit to see if that truly addresses everything AMD related.

[bill dennison]

We need to be in the insider program to get that AMD patch per this.

https://www.techadvisor.com/news/windows/windows-11-amd-ryzen-performance-issues-fix-3809522/

I’m still going to wait it out a bit to see if that truly addresses everything AMD related.

it's MS it will fix AMD and break NV and Intel

[Munkus]

He might find installing Win11 there challenging as well!

Nah. Parallels 17 + Win 11 ARM64 works great. As usual, it sucks for gamers, but I use this configuration for work and it's pretty snappy.

[Lupine]

it's MS it will fix AMD and break NV and Intel

*insert obligatory wack-a-mole gif here*

Nah. Parallels 17 + Win 11 ARM64 works great. As usual, it sucks for gamers, but I use this configuration for work and it's pretty snappy.

Nice. Hadn't followed M1 support.

[KAC]

Thinking about reverting my Intel back as well.
This is not ready for prime time.

[Nunz]

Just because some noobs have issues (besides L3 Ryzen issue) means it's not ready for primetime, huh..

[andino]

I've had zero problems with it so far. Aside from finding where the MS team moved things that is.

It's not that bad of a build. Beats the heck out of Windows ME...

[KAC]

I actually feel that games are a bit slower on my 10700/3070 combo. I am also getting occasional hitching in Kena and COD CW something that wasn’t happening with windows 10. So it’s not about the noobs, it is about the use cases. For me personally and the games I am playing things are slightly worse off than they were before.

[acroig]

https://www.techadvisor.com/news/windows/windows-11-amd-ryzen-performance-issues-fix-3809522/

[badsykes]

Imo to release an oficial build with such a huge bug for Ryzen Cpu's is a disastrous launch.This on top of the banning the 2017 and befoire cpu's.

[demo]

Nothing disastrous about it. Intel worked with MS to optimise the scheduler before launch.

[Elysian]

I rolled back to Windows 10 last night. My new PC was really struggling after a few hours of 3d CAD work in Rhino, and when I went to see what was taking up all the resources Task Manager would literally crash when I tried to sort by CPU %... Rebooted the machine and rolled it back right then and there.

Had lots of issues with design changes they made to it, but could work around most of it. Just feels like it's very half-baked at this point, no idea why they put it out in this state.

[Meteor_of_War]

no idea why they put it out in this state.

Because they want you guys to test it for them free of charge.

[Elysian]

Because they want you guys to test it for them free of charge.

Yeah pretty much.


Oh and I tried it on Parallels Desktop on my 2020 Macbook Pro, Windows 10 runs fantastically on there, 11 is trash. So slow, barely useable. Rolled that back pretty quickly.

[pax]

They dont make as much money off windows anymore, MS like so many others are more about data mining now, so like windows mail there are bugs a plenty.

[dodger]

Yeah pretty much.


Oh and I tried it on Parallels Desktop on my 2020 Macbook Pro, Windows 10 runs fantastically on there, 11 is trash. So slow, barely useable. Rolled that back pretty quickly.

That's Intel Win11 right? Just making sure the difference in experience with Munkus.

[Munkus]

I'm using Win 11 ARM64 under Parallels 17.1 and it's just as snappy as Win 10 was. No speed issues at all (other than the fact that it's in a VM). I'm assigning 4 CPU cores and 8Gb RAM to the VM if that makes a difference.

[Nunz]

Because they want you guys to test it for them free of charge.

I mean they don't make much $$ off it, and I don't remember the last time I paid for a Windows key. It's been free upgrades.

Win11 still working phenomenal for my rig with no issues.

[Meteor_of_War]

I mean they don't make much $$ off it, and I don't remember the last time I paid for a Windows key. It's been free upgrades.

Win11 still working phenomenal for my rig with no issues.

I'm sure its running fine for you and a lot of people. But others are also reporting issues.

Its the same old story, the people having issues slam it while the ones that don't praise it. Everyone has a bias.

[Munkus]

I'm sure its running fine for you and a lot of people. But others are also reporting issues.

Its the same old story, the people having issues slam it while the ones that don't praise it. Everyone has a bias.

If I was having major issues, I'd be pissed off and slam Microsoft as well. Luckily everything is fine. Honestly, though, if it wasn't a free upgrade I wouldn't bother. None of the changes that I see on a daily basis are worth upgrading for, IMO.

[Elysian]

That's Intel Win11 right? Just making sure the difference in experience with Munkus.

Yeah, my MBP is an i7 (forget the specific model but 8th gen), as is my new PC (11730).

I mean they don't make much $$ off it, and I don't remember the last time I paid for a Windows key. It's been free upgrades.

Win11 still working phenomenal for my rig with no issues.

I wish that was the case here, I need PCs I do work on to work properly. If my desktop were gaming only I might consider keeping it through the teething problems, but I can't do that. Same with on Parallels Desktop on my MBP, I only use that for working in 3D CAD/CAM, so it needs to work well, which Windows 11 didn't.

I'm using Win 11 ARM64 under Parallels 17.1 and it's just as snappy as Win 10 was. No speed issues at all (other than the fact that it's in a VM). I'm assigning 4 CPU cores and 8Gb RAM to the VM if that makes a difference.

ARM Windows is a different beast from x86. My 2020 MBP is a pretty high spec machine but performance on 11 was unacceptably slow, much slower than 10.

[Nunz]

For a machine looking for reliability, I'd probably keep it on Win10 for a while longer anyway. I love Win11 thus far and think it's a performance increase as well as an upgrade in functionality, but for a CAD machine, I wouldn't bother updating as long as Win10 is working properly for the use purpose.

[Nascar24]

Not having any performance issues with 11 but there are definitely bugs for me, fresh install, Taskbar will lock and not load all the icons at times.

[KAC]

Damn, I can’t revert on my Intel setup anymore.

[Munkus]

Damn, I can’t revert on my Intel setup anymore.

Just restore the full backup you made right before you upgraded.

[KAC]

Who said I made a full backup?

[Munkus]

Who said I made a full backup?

[KAC]

[acroig]

I can't seem to get 5.1 surround working with Win 11. The rears just don't work.

Duh! I had the rears plugged incorrectly on the mobo. DERP!

[Lazy8s]

The official nag icon (Windows 11 is ready!) has appeared in my taskbar.

Now I can’t upgrade. Out of principle.


Maybe I should backup win 10 first….

[Meteor_of_War]

The official nag icon (Windows 11 is ready!) has appeared in my taskbar.

Now I can’t upgrade. Out of principle.


Maybe I should backup win 10 first….

You have me worried MS is going to start upgrading Win 10 machines without consent. I think they did that with Win 8 on Win 7 machines back in the day.

I swear if I wake up one of these mornings with Windows 11 I'll be pissed.

[Nascar24]

Enjoy Enjoy!