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    That chip is going to be amazing for people who need major multithreading. For everyone else, the (I assume) lower clock speeds are going to be a detriment to performance.

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      Intel can't be happy about Sapphire Rapid's leaking..
      Originally posted by curio
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        So where are the 2 dimm z790 boards?

        Otherwise, it seems MSI is the only one supporting 7600 memory on 4 dimm boards. ASUS and the rest top out at 7200.
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          ASUS APEX will be announced soon according to ASUS.

          MSI UNIFY-X will release ~2mo after Raptor Lake release apparently.

          Considering how much of a mess the APEX was for Z690, a lot of people are calling it quits on ASUS this gen. My board suggestion would be a EVGA Z690 DARK KINGPIN - can be had for $499 in some locations. It's by far the best clocking board on the market and I suspect will handle Raptor Lake extremely well. Guys are going from the APEX/Unify-X, struggling to do above 6600-7000, grabbing a DARK, letting the board do auto voltages, and pushing 7200, tight timings, and 1T command rate. The board is just absurdly powerful.

          The 4-DIMM issue seems to be negated by Hynix A-Die. There's a couple of people who jumped on A-Die with 4-DIMM board (mostly ASUS HERO) and they're seeing 6800-7000 stable. There is discussion on whether the Z690 4-DIMM boards were the issue or if the CPU IMC on Alder Lake was driving the problem. Hynix A-Die seems to be much less sensitive to CPU IMC weakness, and able to run at much lower voltages.

          Considering my struggles to get 6800+, I think the CPU IMC and signal integrity is more important than anyone thought. 2-DIMM will always clock better (just like DDR4), but Hynix A-Die seems to have brought 4-DIMM boards back into relevancy for memory performance.

          Just a heads up though. Hynix A-Die is reaching much higher frequencies (at lower voltages), but apparently the tRFC is much looser. It's really a question of whether you can grab enough frequency to negate the higher latency of loose tRFC. Hynix M-Die, if you can get up to 6600-6800, seems to be a very nice balance between tight timings and frequency.

          Like I said earlier, I'm down in the mid 40s latency and I'm not tightened to the limit. My DDR4 setup took a lot of work to get the latency down that far.
          Originally posted by curio
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            Don't particularly want to wait a few months for 2 dimm if MSI's range can indeed hit 7600+ on 4 dimm, that's enough headroom for me for now. Was thinking of the Carbon or the Ace. Probably the Carbon because it's $350 cheaper here. Yeh the z690 APEX was a disaster, seems to be faulty batches.

            I'm also curious about DR 32GB modules with RPL/z790. I saw someone test two kits at identical latencies and speed of 6333, and the DR kit was 3-4ns quicker. It took the SR kit 6800 just to match it. Be interesting to see how far DR kits can be pushed on 'new' platform.

            As for DDR4 latency, got this kit under 40ns without much hassle. Does ADL naturally have higher latency due to ring bus?
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              ADL does have higher latency, yes. Can't compare to Rocket Lake, or Comet Lake/prior.

              SR vs DR will be just like it was with DDR4; SR will achieve higher frequency/tighter timings, and can catch up to DR when secondary/tertiary are tuned properly, especially refresh timings like tREFI. DR will be the "go-to" for XMP folk and those who want a more simple OC experience.

              I'd go with the Carbon, unless you can utilize the extra features of the ACE like Thunderbolt, etc.

              I strongly suggest taking a look at the Z690 DARK. It's pricing is really strong, and when RPL releases, I think the DARK will showcase that Z690, when done correctly, is perfectly capable of 8000+. It's an extremely powerful board. If I had to re-buy, I'd go DARK with zero question.

              Considering the Z790 doesn't appear to be adding any new features, I'm not sure what these boards will offer to make anyone jump from their Z690. I seen that some of the cheaper boards are, at minimum, going 8-layer PCB, likely to try and bolster the signal integrity to support those higher DDR5 frequencies; but if you have a high-end board like an APEX, Unify, DARK .. I don't think there will be anything to gain.

              I'm probably grabbing a 13900K, and will stick it in my Unify-X. Hoping it'll unleash these Kingston sticks I'm running.
              Originally posted by curio
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                Thought I'd leave this here since we are talking about EVGA Dark Kingpin.

                $499.00 right now.
                Last edited by andino; Oct 1, 2022, 06:48 PM.

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                  jayztwocentz is brutal to listen to
                  Originally posted by curio
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                    I agree. He does show the board off a bit though.

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                      Originally posted by Nunz View Post
                      jayztwocentz is brutal to listen to
                      The overall quality of his vids has gone down, lots of clowning around now.

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                        Intel Core i9-13900K "Raptor Lake" CPU Overclocked to 8.2 GHz with Room for More

                        Now that’s a spicy meatball!

                        Intel's Core i9-13900K Raptor Lake CPU has been overclocked to a very impressive 8.2 GHz clock frequency using LN2 cooling.

                        The overclocking feat was achieved by Legendary overclocker, Allen Golibersuch aka SPLAVE during the Intel Creator Challenge just a few hours ago. During the event, Intel invited SPLAVE to showcase some overclocking capabilities of the Raptor Lake chip over the Livestream and we got to see an 8.2 GHz overclock.

                        The CPU used by SPLAVE was the Intel Core i9-13900K which is the top Core i9-13900K chip for this year. I say this year because there's the Core i9-13900KS planned for next year that will offer clocks of up to 6 GHz. The Core i9-13900K comes with 24 cores, 32 threads, 68 MB of cache, a single-core boost of up to 5.8 GHz, and a multi-core boost of up to 5.5 GHz across all cores. For this particular OC, the chip only had its 8 P-Cores (Raptor Cove) enabled and SMT was disabled. The motherboard used was the next-gen ASRock Z790 Taichi.


                        Source: Wccftech

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                          They didnt bench CB R23 at 8.2 ghz? I thought that was standard.
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                            Intel asked him to do some OC at twitch con, not really an OC event.

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                              Intel’s Entry-Level Core i3-13100 CPU with Quad-Core Design Spotted

                              Thirteenth-gen, but not Raptor Lake. Wccftech expects that the chip will be priced at around $100 USD.

                              Intel's 13th Gen Core i3-13100 Desktop CPU has been spotted and features a very entry-level design carrying just four P-cores.

                              At launch, Intel's 13th Gen Raptor Lake CPU family will only include the "K" series parts such as the Core i9-13900K(F), Core i7-13700K(F), and the Core i5-13600K(F). However, Intel is also prepping up mainstream Non-K and T-Series parts as we have seen leak out over the past several months. The mainstream lineup is what's going to be the main challenge for AMD to tackle as they currently have no AM5 parts that are available at the same value as those or even the existing 12th Gen CPU line.

                              One such part within the lineup is the Intel Core i3-13100 CPU which has now appeared within the CPU-z database. The Raptor Lake chip or should we say, Alder Lake, comes with a four-core design which is all P-Cores and 8 threads. The reason why we say that this is an Alder Lake part and not a Raptor Lake chip is that it has the same cache structure as the Alder Lake Core i3-12100 with a 12 MB L3 and a 5 MB L2 design. Intel's 13th Gen lineup is expected to feature a mix of Raptor Cove & Golden Cove chips as detailed here.

                              The CPU was spotted running at clock speeds of 3.41 GHz and these are definitely not the final clocks. You can see that the multiplier and bus speed have been modified since the Core i3-12100 already comes with a base/boost clock of 3.3/4.3 GHz, there's no way that its successor will offer lower clock speeds. The CPU was tested on a Gigabyte B660 Gaming X motherboard & it's known that 13th Gen CPUs will be compatible with existing 600-series & also the newer 700-series boards.


                              Source: Wccftech

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                                Early review:

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                                Seems its about same as a tuned 12900k...
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                                  No, that's actually a really good look for the 13900K. Lower power draw at higher clocks; the ring, memory, and E-Cores all seem to clock much higher stock without tuning required. The 13900K is going to stomp the 12900K/KS, especially with memory tuning. The early testers from ASUS @ OCN have already shown memory hitting 7600-7800 without an issue.

                                  This is a really poor video; the systems aren't identical and there's so many factors that can affect performance between the two rigs. Frame Chasers has pushed so much fud over the last two years that I'm surprised anyone still supports this guy..
                                  Originally posted by curio
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                                    Intel Core i9-13900K Matches Performance of Core i9-12900K While Using Less Power

                                    Just 80 W.

                                    In the latest benchmarks posted by Enthusiast Citizen over at Bilibili Forums, we get to see the Intel Core i9-13900K Raptor Lake CPU being tested within Cinebench R23 in various profiles. The results range from stock, unlimited power, and limited power profiles. But before that, let's take a quick re-cap of the specs.

                                    The Intel Core i9-13900K is the flagship Raptor Lake CPU, featuring 24 cores and 32 threads in an 8 P-Core (Raptor Cove) and 16 E-Core (Gracemont V2) configuration. The CPU is configured at a base clock of 3.0 GHz, a single-core boost clock of 5.8 GHz (1-2) cores, and an all-core boost clock of 5.5 GHz (all 8 P-Cores). The CPU features 68 MB of combined cache and a 125W PL1 rating that goes up to 250W. The CPU can also consume up to 350W of power when using the "Unlimited Power Mode" which we detailed here.

                                    • Core i9-13900K 8+16 (24/32) - 3.0 / 5.8 GHz - 66 MB Cache, 125W (PL1) / 253W (PL2)
                                    • Core i9-12900K 8+8 (16/24) - 3.2 / 5.2 GHz - 30 MB Cache, 125W (PL1) / 241W (PL2)


                                    Coming to the performance benchmarks, the Intel Core i9-13900K scores 38,431 points at stock and that's on par with the AMD Ryzen 9 7950X. Using the "Unlimited Power" profile, the score jumps to 40,622 points which is a 6% increase. The leaker also posted another benchmark, this time with the CPU running at a fixed 80W power limit, and scored 27,412 points which is on par with Intel's Core i9-12900K Alder Lake CPU.


                                    Source: Wccftech

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                                      Intel Claims Core i9-13900K Will Be 11% Faster Than AMD Ryzen 9 7950X in Games

                                      11% faster on average, that is.

                                      Note: The person who shared the slides with VideoCardz.com, RUBY’s|RYZEN|RAYDEON RAGE 3D, is not affiliated with Rage3D.

                                      It looks like the slides were shown during a recent Raptor Lake pre-launch events, which are now taking place around the world for the tech press and analysts. It is not clear if these slides in particular are under embargo, but it is clear that they have not been shared before. That’s simply because AMD Ryzen 7000 series were not available yet when Intel was announcing their Raptor Lake series.

                                      According to this slide, Intel Core i9-13900K is offers -1% worse to 22% better performance than AMD Ryzen 9 7950X in gaming. Both CPUs are the flagship of the new desktop series. On average, Intel CPU will be 11% faster than AMD Zen4 CPU.

                                      Another slide shows productivity benchmark from PugetBench, Procyon or AutoCAD/AutoDesk. Intel claims it will reach parity in half of the benchmarks, with 3% loss in Photoshop test and 4% to 16% gain with AutoDesk/CAD.


                                      Source: VideoCardz.com

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                                        Yeah but did they do this comparison with the windows scheduler issue on the 7950x... Id like to see the 7700x and 5800X3D in there...
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                                            The first reviews are starting to pop up now. I will prepare a list of review links later today.

                                            Intel is officially launching its 13th Gen Raptor Lake CPU family today including the Core i9-13900K, i7-13700K & i5-13600K alongside Z790 motherboards.

                                            On paper, Intel's 13th Gen Raptor Lake CPUs look to be an optimized version of the 12th Gen Alder Lake CPUs. They will be based on the same 10nm ESF 'Intel 7' process node, utilize the same P-Core & E-Core design, & will be supported on existing motherboards. But there's a lot that's changing with Raptor Lake and we are going to detail everything, from official details to rumored information that we know about Alder Lake so far and what you could expect from Intel's next desktop lineup which will be pitted right against AMD's next Ryzen CPU lineup for desktops too.

                                            On paper, Intel's 13th Gen Raptor Lake CPUs look to be an optimized version of the 12th Gen Alder Lake CPUs. They will be based on the same 10nm ESF 'Intel 7' process node, utilize the same P-Core & E-Core design, & will be supported on existing motherboards. But there's a lot that's changing with Raptor Lake and we are going to detail everything, from official details to rumored information that we know about Alder Lake so far and what you could expect from Intel's next desktop lineup which will be pitted right against AMD's next Ryzen CPU lineup for desktops too.


                                            Source: Wccftech

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                                              Waiting for that video that shows you how to merge your gaming PC to the HVAC main tunnel feed for the home.

                                              I mean, who really needs a home gas furnace amirite?

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                                                Originally posted by AllexxisF1 View Post
                                                Waiting for that video that shows you how to merge your gaming PC to the HVAC main tunnel feed for the home.

                                                I mean, who really needs a home gas furnace amirite?
                                                A small cluster of Core i9-13900K/GeForce RTX 4090 rigs might actually be cheaper upfront!

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                                                  TPU's review seems to show that ocing this thing isnt worth it most of the time. You lose perf, sometimes a lot.

                                                  But maybe its the scheduler again ??

                                                  https://www.techpowerup.com/review/i...13900k/26.html

                                                  Some workloads get scheduled onto wrong cores
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                                                    Has any site/channel done any tests with one of those ILM/cpu contacts frames on the 13xxx?

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                                                      It's pretty much what I expected. It's competitive in multi core and a little faster in gaming but they had to push power and heat levels to new highs in order to get there.

                                                      While it only gained 4% over the 12900K in gaming it's still a solid 10% faster than the 7950X because AMD didn't deliver the increases they needed to this time. Talk of the 7950X gaining 10% when one of the CCD's is disabled shows that the design should have pushed more but didn't at least in time for launch. That being said, the 7950X, 5800X3D and 13900K all trade blows and win at different games. They are usually within a few percent of each other.

                                                      AMD is still a little faster in multicore and has a solid lead in Blender rendering which is what I'm into. 117 more watts and 15C higher temps than what I'm getting for slower performance, no thank you.

                                                      10nm is just pushed too hard and even overclocking the 13900K is pointless in my eyes. It's late and the platform is a dead end with cut down PCIE 5X bandwidth when using a NVME 5.0 drive. Don't know if it will matter over the next 4 years but it still feels like Intel is pushing old tech too hard instead of moving forward. That being said, I know they were caught with their pants down and they have achieved near miracle levels of improvement to get where they are. If they stay on schedule I'm sure their next chip will be killer.

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                                                        Intel 13th-Generation Core CPUs - Review Roundup

                                                        After months of rumors and waiting, Intel’s "Raptor Lake" CPUs are finally here! Before you run out and buy one, however, it would be wise to read or view some of these fine reviews from across the Web first.

                                                        Reviews of the following CPUs have been released today: the Core i9-13900K, the Core i7-13700K, and the Core i5-13600K. However, please note that Intel did not send out official samples of the Core i7-13700, so we don’t know how reviewers obtained those chips. Reviews of motherboards based on Intel’s new Z790 chipset are also available from some of the same sources listed below.

                                                        AnandTech (13900K, 13600K)

                                                        Ars Technica (13900K, 13600K)

                                                        Digital Foundry (13900K, 13600K)

                                                        Digital Trends (13900K, 13600K)

                                                        eTeknix (13700K)

                                                        Gamers Nexus (13900K, 13600K)

                                                        Gizmodo (13900K, 13600K)

                                                        Guru3D (13900K, 13600K)

                                                        Hardware Canucks (13900K)

                                                        Hardware Unboxed (13900K)

                                                        HotHardware (13900K, 13600K)

                                                        JayzTwoCents (13900K)

                                                        KitGuru (13900K)

                                                        Linus Tech Tips (13900K, 13600K)

                                                        OC3D (13900K, 13600K)

                                                        Overclockers (13900K, 13600K)

                                                        PCMag (13900K)

                                                        PC Gamer (13900K, 13600K)

                                                        PC Perspective (13900K)

                                                        PC World (13900K)

                                                        TechPowerUp (13900K, 13600K)

                                                        The Verge (13900K)

                                                        Tom’s Hardware (13900K, 13600K)

                                                        TweakTown (13900K, 13600K)

                                                        Windows Central (13900K, 13700K, 13600K)
                                                        Last edited by Android1; Oct 22, 2022, 10:04 AM. Reason: Added link to Gamers Nexus 13600K and eTeknix 13700K reviews. Added note about Intel review samples and 13700K reviews.

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                                                          Originally posted by the_sextein View Post
                                                          It's pretty much what I expected. It's competitive in multi core and a little faster in gaming but they had to push power and heat levels to new highs in order to get there.

                                                          While it only gained 4% over the 12900K in gaming it's still a solid 10% faster than the 7950X because AMD didn't deliver the increases they needed to this time. Talk of the 7950X gaining 10% when one of the CCD's is disabled shows that the design should have pushed more but didn't at least in time for launch. That being said, the 7950X, 5800X3D and 13900K all trade blows and win at different games. They are usually within a few percent of each other.

                                                          AMD is still a little faster in multicore and has a solid lead in Blender rendering which is what I'm into. 117 more watts and 15C higher temps than what I'm getting for slower performance, no thank you.

                                                          10nm is just pushed too hard and even overclocking the 13900K is pointless in my eyes. It's late and the platform is a dead end with cut down PCIE 5X bandwidth when using a NVME 5.0 drive. Don't know if it will matter over the next 4 years but it still feels like Intel is pushing old tech too hard instead of moving forward. That being said, I know they were caught with their pants down and they have achieved near miracle levels of improvement to get where they are. If they stay on schedule I'm sure their next chip will be killer.
                                                          Plus it's $100 less than the 7950x and the motherboard prices are cheaper too.

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                                                            Yes Intel has a price advantage for the moment. I would assume AMD will drop prices quickly now that the 13 series is out. It's pretty rare to see Intel undercut on pricing but indicative of Intel's current overall performance and value in my opinion.

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                                                              wait till someones water cooling pump stops and that thing starts boiling water

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                                                                The power consumption of today’s processors is just unbelievable.

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                                                                  LoL 400W what the hell..
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                                                                        13600k is the one to beat tho for gamers. AMD has to drop its price to 300$ for the 7700X.
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                                                                          When 13700k reviews? I'm confident that's the cpu to go for.

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                                                                            Originally posted by Megaman View Post
                                                                            When 13700k reviews? I'm confident that's the cpu to go for.
                                                                            Windows Central has one, as does eTeknix. You can find several others in VideoCardz.com’s review roundup, but they aren’t in English.

                                                                            Why so few? I don’t know. Time constraints maybe? I noticed something similar with the Ryzen 7000 Series launch. Certain CPUs in that product line were reviewed by more people than others.
                                                                            Last edited by Android1; Oct 20, 2022, 10:38 PM. Reason: Added comment about the Ryzen 7000 Series.

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                                                                              Looks like the usual, all cpus sold in seconds with no more in stock.
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                                                                                HU got its 13700k review out:

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                                                                                "The Intelligibility of the Universe itself needs explanation. It is not the gaps of understanding of the world that points to God but rather the very comprehensibility of scientific and other forms of understanding that requires an explanation." -Richard Swinburne

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                                                                                  I'll probably swap my 12700K for a 13700K in my gaming rig, just staying with DDR4 for now. I'll need to spring for an AIO cooler though, because my Noctua NH-D15 can't handle that 13700K.
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