Intel 12x00 series Alder lake

[12Bass]

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After der8auer found out how to overclock the 12400, this is Intel's response: https://wccftech.com/intel-warns-use...ites-damaging/

Or perhaps it is damaging their profits...

[Nunz]

I mean, it's not an unlocked processor, so of course Intel is going to say that. They promote OCing for their "K" unlocked chips.

[12Bass]

Did you see der8auer's results with the 12400? Killer gaming chip... and the OC works on some B660 boards too. An overclocker's dream... cheap and great OCer that competes with CPUs that are double the price.

[Nunz]

Yeah it's good, but remember that it's very possible he just has a good sample.

[acroig]

Overclocked Intel Core i9-12900KS has allegedly been tested with Cinebench R23

https://videocardz.com/newz/overclocked-intel-core-i9-12900ks-has-allegedly-been-tested-with-cinebench-r23

"Intel has been teasing this CPU with all Performance core boost up to 5.2 GHz and a single-core boost going up to 5.5 GHz. A Cinebench R23 test which has just been discovered by HXL over at Taobao marketplace features an all-core clock of 5.4 GHz. The CPU allegedly scored 29519 points in the CB R23 multi-core test which is pretty much as expected."

[acroig]

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-core-i9-12900ks-has-record-max-turbo-power-consumption

12900KS arrives next month

[KAC]

Got some Gs lying around. Still a good time to buy alder lake?
Was thinking about 12900k and Strix Z690 with 6000 DDR5 and a 3090Ti?

Waste of money?

[lmchv]

I upgraded from a 9900K+ROG Maximus Formula Z390+DDR4-3000 to a 12900K+Maximus Formula Z690+DDR5-5200 and the performance difference is noticeable. TimeSpy CPU score jumped from 11178 to 19314

[Shapeshifter]

Got some Gs lying around. Still a good time to buy alder lake?
Was thinking about 12900k and Strix Z690 with 6000 DDR5 and a 3090Ti?

Waste of money?

considering your current system I'd wait to see what the 5800x3d benchmarks look like.

You may just do an expensive side-grade vs buying a cpu only.

[Chuck]

Alder Lake is fine and gave Intel back the performance crown, but I am more curious about Raptor Lake. Supposed to consume far less power while being remarkably powerful.

[KAC]

When is that due?

[Chuck]

When is that due?

Think I heard this October, but you know Intel's track record with delays.

[KAC]

Hmm, yeah seems a bit late to indulge. End of year it is then.

Thanks.

[Nunz]

#1 in the world 12700K + 3080TI in Time Spy

Am I famous now? Call me K1NGP1N?

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/27518648

#1 world 12700K + 3080TI in Fire Strike Ultra

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/74150878?

#1 world 12700K + 3080TI in Time Spy Extreme

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/27519088

[KAC]

Nice. You are the black kingpin!

[Seyiji]

#1 in the world 12700K + 3080TI in Time Spy

Am I famous now? Call me K1NGP1N?

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/27518648

#1 world 12700K + 3080TI in Fire Strike Ultra

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/74150878?

#1 world 12700K + 3080TI in Time Spy Extreme

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/27519088

Weeeew grats gai.

[Nunz]

In reality, it's just because no one is doing world-record benching on a 12700K.

Still pretty cool though, lol

[demo]

Nice one nunz

[Nunz]

This is why mem OC is important:

https://www.overclock.net/threads/official-intel-z690-ddr4-daily-memory-overclock.1794799/page-150#post-28974313

Don't look at avg FPS - look at 1% and 0.2% percentile. Absolutely massive gains from just memory OC. This is why I keep saying that 3200CL14 is a poor representation of what this platform is capable of. I'd love to see a tweaked 12700K vs 5800X3D.

[Megaman]

I need to OC my CL14s

[Nunz]

I need to OC my CL14s

You're running a STRIX-A right? Also, do your sticks have temperature sensors? You'd see them in HWINFO as DIMM(1) and DIMM(3)

[Megaman]

Word

[Nunz]

Word

Download new BIOS just released .. bunch of us are running it through the paces now.

https://rog.asus.com/us/motherboards/rog-strix/rog-strix-z690-a-gaming-wifi-d4-model/helpdesk_bios

start reading this thread, don't be scared to ask questions. most of the guys are pretty cool and like helping others.. honestly, it's really not that hard to OC memory, just takes time. I wouldn't go for an extreme mem OC for your use-case since you are gaming, and temps in your rig will fluctuate with the seasons. as you start tightening certain timings up hard, your sticks get much more sensitive to temperature and 2-3c hotter can cause crashes. there's easy ways to avoid that by not cranking it all to the limit on certain timings. tREFI and tRFC are both major causes of that.

the thread: https://www.overclock.net/threads/of...#post-28974318

I'm pretty active on OCN under a different alias. you can probably figure out who I am

[Megaman]

Thanks. Already running BIOS 1404. I have no memory overclock experience apart from XMP but I’ll read up , have a crack, see how it goes

[acroig]

So guys, thoughts in this bundle?

https://www.microcenter.com/product/5005731/Intel_Core_i7-12700K,_MSI_Z690_MAG_Tomahawk_WiFi_DDR4,_CPU_-_Motherboard_Combo

Wait for new Intel lineup later this year?

[Munkus]

https://www.microcenter.com/product/...herboard_Combo

Wait for new Intel lineup later this year?

That's the exact combo I purchased (though not from Microcenter). Stable as a rock and performs great.

[acroig]

That's the exact combo I purchased (though not from Microcenter). Stable as a rock and performs great.

Tempted as I can get 5% off total plus got a $15 coupon from MC.

Pull the trigger or wait? When is Intel's 13th gen coming out?

[Munkus]

Tempted as I can get 5% off total plus got a $15 coupon from MC.

Pull the trigger or wait? When is Intel's 13th gen coming out?

Depending on what you currently have, I'd wait. Most games are GPU-bound at higher resolutions, so my bump from a 10850K to 12700K provided very little boost to fps when running 1440p or 4K. I knew that going into it, though, but I sold my old mobo+cpu for 75% of the cost of the upgrade. No complaints here.

[Nunz]

Wait.

Raptor Lake coming Q4.

[acroig]

Depending on what you currently have, I'd wait. Most games are GPU-bound at higher resolutions, so my bump from a 10850K to 12700K provided very little boost to fps when running 1440p or 4K. I knew that going into it, though, but I sold my old mobo+cpu for 75% of the cost of the upgrade. No complaints here.

Wait.

Raptor Lake coming Q4.

Thanks guys, will wait.

I figured at 1440p things were not going to improve enough to justify the purchase.

[KAC]

No point waiting. Get it and get raptor lake when that is out.

[acroig]

No point waiting. Get it and get raptor lake when that is out.

Nah, they're right. A 4080 will give much more FPS boost.

[demo]

Definitely wait, we're not far away from both vendors releasing new gens now.

[acroig]

Will do demo, thanks. Is Intel sticking with LGA1700 for next gen?

[demo]

Yeh. I read that not all pins are being used with current LGA1700 though, so it might be a good idea to wait for z790 mobo to accompany Raptor Lake. z690 will still be supported though.

[Nunz]

LGA1700 is guaranteed for Raptor Lake. There is rumor it will go one more generation after as well. Not all pins are being used, that is correct. I expect Raptor Lake to reduce power consumption as Intel refines their Intel 7 node. There's talks they have a new concept/technology that may be introduced with Raptor Lake, which would reduce current power draw by 25% at the same voltage and clock speed compared to Alder Lake. This could be something they save for Meteor Lake though.

[acroig]

Oh wow, definitely worth waiting for then.

Is there an obvious reason why LGA1700 mobos are so expensive? Power management?

[Nunz]

Began production during the COVID era.. adjusted for inflation.. I dunno. The VRMs on even the low-end boards are beefy so that's part of the cost I'd assume.

[demo]

PCIe 5, DDR5, power stages [SPS], covid, shortages, intel

[acroig]

Began production during the COVID era.. adjusted for inflation.. I dunno. The VRMs on even the low-end boards are beefy so that's part of the cost I'd assume.

PCIe 5, DDR5, power stages [SPS], covid, shortages, intel

LOL @ Intel but 100% right.