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    Originally posted by andino View Post
    I did the same.

    7950x came in today.
    2TB 980 came in today.
    Ram tomorrow.
    Asus Hero comes on Tuesday.

    Water block - ????
    Noice

    Originally posted by Mangler View Post
    I went with a strix and a 7700x, I could not justify paying more for my MB than my CPU.

    I'm not sure if I want to wait for the am5 kit for my old velocity block or just use the corsair block that I bought on a sale.

    The XC7 will probably perform better than my old ek block, but it just feels so cheap and flimsy.

    Yeh I was tossing up between the MSI Carbon, Strix-E or F, or Hero. Carbon not in stock and thought screw it I'll pay a little more for the Hero since I hope to get a few CPU gens out of it.

    You had a Phanteks case, right? Pro 2? 719?

    I just received the 719 in Anthracite Grey, only because it was $50 cheaper than the black version for some reason.
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      Originally posted by demo View Post
      Noice




      Yeh I was tossing up between the MSI Carbon, Strix-E or F, or Hero. Carbon not in stock and thought screw it I'll pay a little more for the Hero since I hope to get a few CPU gens out of it.

      You had a Phanteks case, right? Pro 2? 719?

      I just received the 719 in Anthracite Grey, only because it was $50 cheaper than the black version for some reason.
      I went full gamer™ for my am5 build, it is going to reside in a HAF700.

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        That's a nice case
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          AMD Ryzen 7 7700 Non-X “Zen 4” CPU Benchmark Leaks Out, 5.3 GHz Clocks at 65W & Around 10% Slower Than 7700X
          https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7-770...clocks-at-65w/

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            Rumor: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X with 10 Cores, Ryzen 3 7300X with 4 Cores Spotted

            AMD is filling out their Ryzen 7000 Series lineup.

            AMD Ryzen 7 7800X could feature 2 more cores than predecessor, according to the new leak. This X-series SKU has just been spotted on Geekbench along with Gigabyte B650 AORUS motherboard.

            It looks like the 7800X could be the first AMD Ryzen CPU with 10 cores and 20 threads (not including the Embedded series). The software also confirms the CPU would boost up to 5.38 GHz, so max frequency could go as high as 5.4 GHz. With 10 cores, two Zen4 chiplets need to be enabled. This means that the CPU has 64MB of L3 cache, so twice as much as Ryzen 7 7700X.

            Furthermore, there is a first entry of Ryzen 3 7300X CPU. This is a quad-core processor according to the data collected by the software. It would boost up to 5.0 GHz and have 32MB of L3 cache.


            Sources: VideoCardz.com, Geekbench (7800X, 7300X), BenchLeaks (Twitter)

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              AMD Releases AM5 AGESA 1.0.0.3, Reintroduces C-State Boost Limiter w/ >4 Cores Loaded

              Available now or coming soon, depending on your motherboard and its manufacturer.

              AMD released the latest version of the AGESA microcode for Socket AM5 platform. The new version 1.0.0.3 most notably reintroduces a Precision Boost C-state limiter that [accidentally?] got removed with version 1.0.0.2. This limiter prevents the CPU cores from boosting above 5.50 GHz when more than 4 cores are active (i.e. experiencing heavy workload). SkatterBencher demonstrated how this affects performance on Ryzen 7000-series desktop processors.

              NopBench, a utility developed by ElmorLabs, lets you figure out the maximum boost frequency obtainable as workload scales across available CPU cores (i.e. starting from 1-thread, to n-thread). NopBench invokes the NOP instruction, and measures the number of NOP instructions can be processed per second. To make the NOP throughput comparable among processors of different microarchitectures, an architecture-specific factor is used, which for "Raphael" is 2.5x. By comparing the NOP throughput of a Ryzen 9 7950X processor tested with AGESA 1.0.0.2 to 1.0.0.3 (ASUS ROG Crosshair X670E Extreme BIOS versions 0611 vs. 0705); SkatterBencher was able to confirm that that the boost limiter is back in place, and limits Precision Boost frequency to 5.50 GHz when the NopBench load exceeds 4 cores.


              Source: TechPowerUp, SkatterBencher

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                AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D Selling More than the Intel 13th Gen and 12th Gen CPUs Combined in Germany
                https://www.hardwaretimes.com/amd-ry...y-mindfactory/

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                  Well, it is hard to beat a cpu that can be run on a x370, 470, and 570 that can also hang with ryzen 7xxx/intel 12/13th gen in gaming.

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                    13th gen selling better than Zen4 tho
                    Originally posted by curio
                    Eat this protein bar, for it is of my body. And drink this creatine shake, for it is my blood.
                    "If you can't handle me when I'm bulking, you don't deserve me when I'm cut." -- Marilyn Monbroe

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                      Got the new build going last night and did some benchies. The scores are from my 9900k setup and my 7950x

                      In Cinebench r23 I went from single core 1268 to 2018
                      Multi went from 11736 to 38621

                      3dMark cpu score went from 7307 to 16238

                      Fire strike. Overall - 31416 to 44145.
                      Fire Strike Extreme - 22223 to 25024
                      Fire Strike Ultra - 13105 to 13650
                      Time Spy - 18459 to 19884
                      Time Spy Extreme - 7324 to 10899
                      Port Royal - 14259 to 14307

                      Most importantly, I have gained fps in MSFS2020.

                      It's a pretty big jump in computing power from the 9900k.

                      EDIT: Also, that is with ram that is having a hard time clocking up. It's currently stuck at 4790...

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                        It's at JEDEC 4800mhz?

                        I had to use an XMP profile to get mine clocked up where it belongs.

                        AMD Ryzen 7950X
                        32GB Kingston 6400 MT/s
                        MSI X670E Carbon
                        NVidia 4090 FE

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                          Originally posted by Nunz View Post
                          13th gen selling better than Zen4 tho
                          till they drop the 7800X3D, 7900X3D and 7950X3D in January like they say

                          i may buy a 7900X3D if it is as good as the 5800X3D was

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                            Originally posted by Riptide View Post
                            It's at JEDEC 4800mhz?

                            I had to use an XMP profile to get mine clocked up where it belongs.
                            I've tried everything and it doesn't post past that. I even went in and did a mild manual setting and it didn't post...


                            I think I got some bum ram.

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                              Originally posted by andino View Post
                              I've tried everything and it doesn't post past that. I even went in and did a mild manual setting and it didn't post...


                              I think I got some bum ram.
                              more likely it's the board not training correctly

                              do you have a DRAM training config page where you can enable/disable training segments?

                              try looking for "DIMM DFE TRAINING" and enable that.
                              Originally posted by curio
                              Eat this protein bar, for it is of my body. And drink this creatine shake, for it is my blood.
                              "If you can't handle me when I'm bulking, you don't deserve me when I'm cut." -- Marilyn Monbroe

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                                Had a few teething issues with this platform that I've never experienced with intel, and thought to myself 'friends don't let friends do AMD'..

                                First was blue screens from any memory setting above 5600mhz. Bios update fixed that.

                                Secondly was a regular hitch every second or so.. it drove me nuts. After some googling I disabled 'USB suspension' which fixed it completely.


                                Once resolved, and after a bit of PBO tuning, this machine is a pleasure to work with. I'm super impressed. Everything runs a like a dream at great efficiency. Got memory up to 6400, fabric to 2100, and 5.4GHz all core with little effort. If I knew what I was doing, I'm sure I could get a chunk more out of it. It feels super quick.
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                                  Glad you like it.

                                  I just disabled selective suspend on mine as a just in case type of thing.

                                  I set a thermal setpoint in the BIOS of 85 on mine, XMP profile, and that was it. Haven't done much else in the BIOS beyond adjusting fan speeds.

                                  Other than the slow POST times no real complaints here.

                                  AMD Ryzen 7950X
                                  32GB Kingston 6400 MT/s
                                  MSI X670E Carbon
                                  NVidia 4090 FE

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                                    AMD Issues Performance Advisory for Ryzen 7000 Series Processors

                                    New products, new problems.

                                    AMD has issued a new advisory regarding the performance characteristics of its new Ryzen 7000 processors, saying that it had received reports of unexpected performance deltas in some games — as we experienced firsthand in our testing with the Ryzen 7000 processors and the Nvidia GeForce RTX 4090 — and will work with game devs to optimize for its new architecture.

                                    Additionally, despite unsubstantiated reports of performance problems with Windows 11, the company hasn't seen any unexpected results when comparing Windows 10 and Windows 11. Here's AMD's full advisory:

                                    "We have been made aware of reports of unexpected performance deltas in certain games with AMD Ryzen desktop processors as well as performance variances between Windows 11 and Windows 10 in certain game titles. We are currently investigating but based on testing to date have not observed a material difference in game performance between OS versions across a variety of operating scenarios and game titles.

                                    "Many factors affect gaming performance, including the game engine, CPU architecture, GPU selection and memory choices. As new architectures enter the market, we often observe performance anomalies which must be addressed by the component vendor or the game publisher. This is not a new phenomenon nor is it unexpected.

                                    "As we have done since the introduction of Ryzen, when these performance anomalies are brought to light we will use them to steer our partner engagements with game developers and ecosystem hardware partners to implement optimizations that eliminate the variations."

                                    The advisory mirrors what the company told us after we shared our own results that exposed a few new performance inversions with the Ryzen 7000 processors. These inversions, wherein single-CCD (chiplet) Ryzen models outperformed dual-CCD models that have more cores, occurred in three of the eight game titles we tested with the new RTX 4090 GPUs: Warhammer 3, Cyberpunk 2077, and F1 2022. We've also heard of similar trends with The Riftbreaker and Metro Exodus.


                                    Source: Tom’s Hardware

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                                      "Zen 4" Delidding Hints At A Big Bandwidth Bump For Ryzen 7000 3D V-Cache CPUs

                                      Better, stronger, faster!

                                      AMD's Ryzen 7 5800X3D is a bizarre processor. Historically, to make a faster CPU, you either improve the architecture or increase the clock rate, but AMD made huge, double-digit percentage gains in gaming by simply slapping an extra 64MB of L3 cache on top of its existing CPU. The company's about to do the same thing with its Zen 4-based Ryzen 7000 processors, and according to recent analysis, it may see even bigger gains.

                                      This information originates with Tom Wassick, who does semiconductor packaging stuff for IBM, although he posted the news on his personal Twitter account and not as an IBM employee. After delidding his Ryzen 5 7600X and removing the thermal interface material, he noted that there appear to be more Through-Silicon Via (TSV) columns, "including at least 2 much larger and denser arrays." That implies that AMD designed the Zen 4 CCD to be more optimized for the installation of 3D V-Cache, with greater throughput between the cache die and the compute die.

                                      TSVs are essentially channels in a microprocessor that allow connections to be made through the silicon (thus the name). In this specific case, the only likely use for them would be for the application of vertically-stacked cache, which AMD calls 3D V-Cache. The company already announced that there will be 3D V-Cache versions of the Ryzen 7000 processors, and rumors have them showing up early next year—possibly with an announcement at CES.


                                      Sources: Hot Hardware, Tom Wassick (Twitter)

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                                        USB Selective Suspend is a very insidious feature that should be disabled on everyone's computer. That feature should just die, IMHO. It causes all sorts of problems in my experience on any platform.

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                                          7950X currently only $600 from AntOnline on Ebay.

                                          Also 7900X at $455 and 7700X at $349.

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                                            Originally posted by Nagorak View Post
                                            7950X currently only $600 from AntOnline on Ebay.

                                            Also 7900X at $455 and 7700X at $349.
                                            That was quick. Cheaper mobo prices would help generate more sales too.

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                                              I went ahead and ordered one. I need more cores and also unfortunately memory for segmented AV1 compression, and calculating out price/performance for the whole system this was only 10% more per core than buying another 5950X, so I made the jump. The faster single core speed may be useful in other aspects of the workload.

                                              Actually it's dropped by $10 since I put my order through yesterday, so I guess demand still isn't that great even at this price?

                                              Motherboard prices are still meh. I got a Gigabyte B650M Aorus Elite for $190 after rebate (please don't let me down again!) that Buildzoid thought looked good from a price/performance standpoint. It was one of the cheaper boards, but also one of the few that has an optical out which I would like to have to send 5.1 audio to my receiver (I guess optical is slowly being phased out?). I'd have liked to have a full ATX, but honestly don't really need extra PCI-e slots on this machine, so whatever.

                                              The biggest issue is still the memory price. I ended up paying $372 for 64 GB of memory which is insane! I could have got something a little cheaper if I'd gone for 5200 MHz, but even then it would be around $300, so I just thought I'd pay a little bit of a premium for something halfway decent (memory speed doesn't appear to affect compression performance, but I'd rather not skimp and later regret it). The sticks are Kingston, so hopefully they're Hynix, which I guess are the best price/performance DDR5 sticks? In comparison you can get 64 GB of DDR4 for around $170, albeit not with amazing timings but you don't really have that much choice at that capacity for DDR4 (I guess you can spend $400+ for 4x16GB Samsung B-die but that's just ridiculous for a non-gaming machine).​
                                              Last edited by Nagorak; Nov 15, 2022, 11:11 AM.

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                                                It's too bad you don't have a MicroCenter near you, they're giving away 32GB of DDR5 6000 RAM with purchase

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                                                  Awaiting X3D versions of these processors.

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                                                    Yeh me too, using 7700x as placeholder. I heard they're only releasing 6 and 8 core X3D variants though, which is a bit disappointing, Hope that's not true.

                                                    On a side note, very happy with the 7700x. It's a great gaming CPU.
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                                                      Building on my last post I actually purchased a 5800X3D to replace my 5900X. Whilst I did see improvements in FPS in some games most of them that I play don’t actually benefit from the extra cache. I did lose out on multi tasking and games now take slightly longer to load and perform shader cache operations.

                                                      Overall, the processor achieves its promise of delivering high FPS. For a 1440P 240 Hz build it did make sense to get that extra frame rate. However, I wouldn’t recommend it to anyone except 5600X or 5800X peasants.

                                                      For 4K gaming this will most likely be a wash as well.

                                                      Results are as follows:
                                                      Game 5900X 5800X3D
                                                      Farcry 6 105 133
                                                      AC Valhalla 178 180
                                                      Ghost Recon Breakpoint 249 260
                                                      Metro Exodus EE 97.68 119.23
                                                      RDR2 175 167 (might be I enabled more options than 5900X run)
                                                      Cyberpunk 2077 109 116
                                                      Forza Horizon 5 148 152
                                                      COD MW2 270 271
                                                      3dmark Port Royal 27093 27117

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