Official AMD Ryzen 5000 Series & 7000 Series Thread

[caveman-jim]

Getting behind on my builds.

[pax]

Nice. Am looking at asrock for the next build after 6 years on GB.

[Riptide]

I originally ordered the X670E Tai Chi but had to cancel since it was E-ATX. The be quiet 500dx doesn't support that form factor sadly. Would've saved a few bucks over this MSI too.

Post up a photo when you get it all together!

[acroig]

Where in F's name are the B650 boards at?

Only the Egg has them?

[Nunz]

I originally ordered the X670E Tai Chi but had to cancel since it was E-ATX. The be quiet 500dx doesn't support that form factor sadly. Would've saved a few bucks over this MSI too.

Post up a photo when you get it all together!

All this extra **** you had to buy could have been avoided with a better case

[bill dennison]

AMD Ryzen 7000’s RDNA 2 iGPU Can Offer 20% Better Performance With 3 GHz Overclock, New AM5 BIOS Introduces AVX On/Off Switch

Secondly, MSI is also introducing AVX Control Options for AMD Ryzen 7000 Desktop CPUs on their AM5 motherboards. Currently, all AMD Ryzen 7000 CPUs have AVX512 support set to enabled by default and there was no option to disable it. However, with the new BIOS, users can disable and enable all AVX modes (AVX2 / AVX512).

https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7000-...x-512-control/

[acroig]

Wish they would get those B650 boards out already!

[caveman-jim]

They're on the way, slow boat from Taiwan/Vietnam. The first boards were air shipped. Prices will go down when the next shipment shows up and the availability improves.

[acroig]

Thanks Jim! Very excited to finish my build.

[0091/2]

Getting behind on my builds.

What cooler will you use with it? Ice Giant?

[demo]

Has anyone here swapped platforms from intel to AMD without fresh OS install? I would like to avoid losing my current windows install if possible. Anything that should be done before swapping over?


Hi Jim

[bill dennison]

Has anyone here swapped platforms from intel to AMD without fresh OS install? I would like to avoid losing my current windows install if possible. Anything that should be done before swapping over?


Hi Jim

i did from intel on both my 1800x and 1900x and they are both still running fine
then the 1800x threadripper upgraded to a 3800x and a crosshair viii hero
just upgraded the 1900x to a 5900x and a crosshair viii hero and then a windows 11 upgrade last year


and just do a backup on the boot drive

but i just pulled all the drives but the boot and let widows do it then added the other drives back
and loaded all the AMD chipset and MB drivers

it is a long boot

[Mangler]

I YOLO:ed my 8700K>3900x transition, it worked just fine, windows seems to be pretty good at handling radical hardware changes.

[Riptide]

Has anyone here swapped platforms from intel to AMD without fresh OS install?

Done this before and been fine. Ran that installation for years lol. Might be a problem if you have a TPM and secure boot in the picture then swap motherboards though.

I know this isn't the old days any more. I still wonder if a swap like this sacrifices some small measure of performance without a fresh rebuild. Difficult to say I suppose.

All this extra **** you had to buy could have been avoided with a better case

Well yah... I have a bit of an addiction to PC hardware and if I had been 'smart' I should've just kept my Lian Li 011 dynamic xl. I wanted something new to play with and I liked the styling on the 500dx so I just went ahead and did it while upgrading to AM5.

It's been a full 24 hours now and I haven't ordered a 4090. It's also been 30+ days now without buying a new keyboard. Baby steps in breaking this addiction and all..

[Nunz]

Hah! I'm amazed I haven't went to MC and grabbed a 4090 yet either. I guess I really am growing up..

[caveman-jim]

What cooler will you use with it? Ice Giant?

Of course! I'm part of the icegiant team

Has anyone here swapped platforms from intel to AMD without fresh OS install? I would like to avoid losing my current windows install if possible. Anything that should be done before swapping over?


Hi Jim

Hey man! I have not, always found it easier to reinstall than repair apps etc because of the different schedulers, powerplans, and codepaths that get set at install time. Over time they 'heal' as apps update and launch etc., I just like the fresh install feeling myself.

[Nunz]

It's so easy to re-install, better off doing it rather than taking chances. Nothing like a nice fresh install, either. Buttery smooth and super snappy.

[the_sextein]

This is a typical scenario in cyberpunk with the 7950X. The game is considered relatively CPU heavy but it usually only loads a small amount on to 1 or 2 threads at a time from what I have seen. Temps are around 70C when gaming with my system fans on quiet mode and my pump on balanced mode. Half of the cores will drop down to 4.5Ghz every few seconds and then jump back up to 5.5Ghz while the other half remain at 5.5Ghz at all times.

[Riptide]

It's so easy to re-install, better off doing it rather than taking chances. Nothing like a nice fresh install, either. Buttery smooth and super snappy.

I agree and I did do a bare metal install on the AM5 system. Unfortunately I have had some issues with Windows 11 this time around which were not there before. Has nothing to do with AM5. My system tray/notification area will disappear on restarts and not come back even if I restart explorer. To get it back I have to delete 'iconstreams' from the registry.

It's annoying and it's persistent. Probably due to some bug in 11 and/or a system tray TSR running down there.

Beyond that no serious issues and the AM5 setup has continued to purr like a kitten.

[Nunz]

I've never had that problem before with Win11, and I've reformatted about 6 times with this Z690 setup. Smoked a few installs w/ memory OCing ..

[Riptide]

It didn't happen the first time I installed 11 but it did this time around. Google searches show it's not unheard of but seems unusual to have that problem pop under 11.

Like any bug, there is always going to be a bunch of people who tell you it's not happening to them. Not my fault though, installing this stuff isn't rocket science.

[Nunz]

Oh yeah, not saying it's any fault of yours (or the hardware).

I had a weird bug for 3 installs where I couldn't get the PIN login screen or Password screen to show up. Once I flashed a new BIOS, the TPM **** would make me have to login via password.. but the screen would never appear. No way around it other than to reformat.

[Riptide]

Yah that looks like a worse bug than what I'm seeing lol

I only reboot once a week give or take. So even if the issue comes back it's easily dealt with. Kinda debatable even whether it's worth reformatting to resolve it.

TBH I've actually considered going back to windows 10. EOL on 10 though is only a couple years out.

[Nunz]

I really like Win11. I've gotten accustomed to it. The only change required is reverting the right-click menu to the old style; takes 3 seconds to fix in regedit.

[the_sextein]

Been doing a little more observing during random games. RDR 2 and many other games are actually running cooler than my 9900K which is interesting because Cyberpunk was about 5C more hot than my 9900K. I'm actually seeing the 7950X run many games like RDR2 at about 58C despite having my fans in quiet operation mode. I used to run my 9900K on a custom curve that would ramp up during gaming and keep it between 60C and 65C. This seems to perform between 55C and 70C but it does it on quiet mode. I'm actually pretty happy with the thermals after settling with 85C thermal max.

I also had random hitches in RDR2 when running through the urban areas and they are now gone so they must have been either platform related or CPU related on my old 9900K. They wern't very common but I would always see it on the included benchmark for RDR2 and it no longer happens despite using the same GPU for the moment.

[Jay20016]

With 4090s finally out in the wild, anyone seen any new Ryzen 7xxx series reviews? The original ones seemed to show massive GPU bottlenecks, so with the new cards, I'm curious if that has opened up the field or is it much the same?

Or, do you think that we'll be seeing that more towards the 20th when the new Intel stuff drops?

[Nunz]

The 4090 certainly creates CPU bottlenecks in scenarios that never seen them, but it's still not all that common. There are no bottlenecks with a 5800X3D outside of 1080p, afaik. With some older processors, we're starting to see some heavy CPU choking at 1440p, but that's expected given the power of the 4090.

The framerate the chip is capable of doesn't change from resolution to resolution with a CPU. If it's CPU limited @ 1080p @ 300fps, it'll be the same limit at 4K. 1440p seems to be equivalent to 1080p now with the 4090 in most games.

[Android1]

AMD Lowers Ryzen 7000 Series "Zen 4" CPU Production

The Ryzen 5000 Series and the AM4 platform have been much more popular.

Based on an internal AMD report, we have managed to learn that the company is planning to lower its Ryzen 7000 "Zen 4" CPU production plan.

The report that cites AMD's internal management suggests that the red team is planning to lower its production of the Ryzen 7000 "Zen 4" CPUs amidst a decline in the PC market and the overall poor reception of the AM5 platform. While the AM5 platform is still fresh, AMD anticipated that it would manage to attract users' interests with a strong slew of features such as support for DDR5 and PCIe 5.0 technologies however that in return has raised the prices of the motherboards and even the entry-level B650 series that was recently introduced has failed to hit the $125 US which AMD had promised.

The report also states that enthusiasts are what's keeping the AM5 floating at the moment and the Ryzen 9 7900X has become the top/best seller with its sales reportedly being the highest amongst the entirety of the Zen 4 lineup. The $549 US chip seems to be far more attractive than the Ryzen 7 7700X ($399 US) and the Ryzen 5 7600X ($299 US). This statistic isn't based on retailer-specific sales but instead on global shipments and retail numbers.

Source: Wccftech

[pax]

AMD Ryzen 9 7950X Posts Significantly Higher Gaming Performance with a CCD Disabled http://tpu.me/5wx

https://twitter.com/TechPowerUp/stat...01612851769344

https://www.techpowerup.com/299959/a...a-ccd-disabled

10% more but wouldnt that mean its basically the same as a 7700x? Tho TPU say the 230w power budget can now goto one ccd I wonder if they could achieve the same improvement with the cheaper 7700x chip or maybe with smt disabled.

[pax]

LOL so yeah now its 25-30% faster with both a CCD and SMT off on a 7950x. You'd think they'd have tested this a while back:



https://twitter.com/AMDGPU_/status/1582419434978701315

7950x has a has a secret gaming performance boost mode.

+25% avg FPS
+30% low FPS
By disabling SMT and 1 CCD

[Riptide]

Is this the windows 11 scheduler problem they're talking about?

Probably be fixed in a few weeks.

[Nunz]

Is this the windows 11 scheduler problem they're talking about?

Probably be fixed in a few weeks.

Could be due to latency between each CCX, and/or higher clock speeds from less cores=reduced power draw, allowing the chip to sustain higher clocks?

[pax]

Maybe the 230w power envelop on the 7950x is that much higher than the 7700x which is what 125w?... Cant see what else...

[demo]

Reviews show that yes cross CCX latency causes a slight drop in performance as well as the odd game just not playing nice at all. Plus I suppose 7950x cores are binned higher than 7700x, hence the default boost clocks.

TLDR; don't waste your money on 7900x or 7950x for gaming. 7700x is often faster than both. If you want to waste money, buy 7950x and disable a CCX for gaming..

[Riptide]

https://www.techradar.com/news/look-...ith-windows-11

[Napoleonic]

LOL so yeah now its 25-30% faster with both a CCD and SMT off on a 7950x. You'd think they'd have tested this a while back:







https://twitter.com/AMDGPU_/status/1582419434978701315

If that's true then wouldn't the 7700X fly past every other current CPUs in gaming?

[pax]

So its the scheduler again. Microshaft strikes again. They had to fix that in win 10 now in win11...

But we can see that the KOTH by January will be the 7700X3D. Itll stomp everything gaming...

[andino]

I think that I'm going to wait until the X3D chips come out to upgrade.

I know that they will blow intel out of the water with gaming.

[Nunz]

So its the scheduler again. Microshaft strikes again. They had to fix that in win 10 now in win11...

But we can see that the KOTH by January will be the 7700X3D. Itll stomp everything gaming...

Sounds like AMD should be working with MS on getting the scheduler functional prior to their product releasing, kinda like how Intel worked with MS so that Win11 was *mostly* ready to go for the Big/Little design.

[andino]

I mean, after the last time, you'd think that AMD would have learned.