Official AMD Ryzen 5000 Series & 7000 Series Thread

[fO Che -USA-]

Thanks for running those CyanBlues. Looking over the results I just realized that the two chiplet design SKUs never had that problem, it was only single chiplet designs like the 5800X and lower.

How about a run of SuperPi Mod 1M. Really tiny little program and should finish in seconds. I would just love to see where Ryzen is sitting now.

[CyanBlues]

Thanks for running those CyanBlues. Looking over the results I just realized that the two chiplet design SKUs never had that problem, it was only single chiplet designs like the 5800X and lower.

How about a run of SuperPi Mod 1M. Really tiny little program and should finish in seconds. I would just love to see where Ryzen is sitting now.

sure, I remember using super pi a while back, did you want sisoft sandra stuff too?

[KAC]

Cyan have you tried running 4.9 Gs all core?

[fO Che -USA-]

sure, I remember using super pi a while back, did you want sisoft sandra stuff too?

Sure.

[CyanBlues]

not sure why sandra thinks I'm running on threadripper for overall memory benchmark








I wouldn't be able to clock all core at 4.9 without LN2 I would think, I can hardly get manual oclock to 4.6gzh stable. Using pbo and negative voltage curve seems to work better since i can get 5.1gzh boost

[KAC]

Hmm, what about all those idiots clocking this at 4.7/4.8 Gs with AIOs? 4.9 might be a stretch but 4.6 seems a bit weak don’t you think?

Think I will also need a primer on clocking this thing.

[CyanBlues]

Hmm, what about all those idiots clocking this at 4.7/4.8 Gs with AIOs? 4.9 might be a stretch but 4.6 seems a bit weak don’t you think?

Think I will also need a primer on clocking this thing.

i only have a 240 aoi, i'll try again after getting the 360 one, I didn't want to push the core voltage too high so I didn't bother trying to get passed 4.6

[demo]

I am just messing with you. I am picking up the 5900x from Cyan.

It's a very nice CPU and 12 cores is great and all, but for a gaming machine you should have waited until Feb/March to see how RKL performs, IMHO.


Just planting another seed KAC.

[Mangler]

He needs those two extra cores in order to offset the performance hit from the rgb software.

[Nascar24]

It's a very nice CPU and 12 cores is great and all, but for a gaming machine you should have waited until Feb/March to see how RKL performs, IMHO.


Just planting another seed KAC.

Until graphics cards advance at a faster pace, it isn’t going to matter much for a few years, they are unable to to saturate the CPU’s we have now.

[KAC]

He needs those two extra cores in order to offset the performance hit from the rgb software.

2 extra. I am on 6 core so this is like doubling my core count.

[KAC]

Deed is done. Thanks a lot CyanBlues.
Tomorrow I go pick up a tomahawk x570, some ram and maybe a new case.

[Sasquach]

woo my motherboard has a bios thats Ryzen 5000 ready.

But i lose all compatibilty with the prior gen Ryzens and it cant be reversed, so if/when i make the switch i'll have to find a new home for the 2600X.

That shouldnt be a problem, as i am hoping to build myself a console PC for the living room at some point.

[badsykes]

It's a very nice CPU and 12 cores is great and all, but for a gaming machine you should have waited until Feb/March to see how RKL performs, IMHO.


Just planting another seed KAC.

Intel will not have more than 8/16 configuration.The only advantage for him to wait was a price cut.
I will not debate if he needed or not to spend so much money on a cpu that is not really for gaming or if 5900x was really needed over his 8086k for gaming

I do feel the biggest change here is that KAC is using AMD for first time for what i know.A new era has begun...





Case closed ....

[demo]

I was just messing with him buddy, but I do think RKL will perform ever so slightly better for gaming, not that it really matters.

[badsykes]

Deed is done. Thanks a lot CyanBlues.
Tomorrow I go pick up a tomahawk x570, some ram and maybe a new case.

Beware that X570 boards have a fan on chipset.May or may not be noisy for you...

[badsykes]

I was just messing with him buddy, but I do think RKL will perform ever so slightly better for gaming, not that it really matters.

Ahh ... ok
I feel ashamed that didn't see the .... mess(ing)

[KAC]

Beware that X570 boards have a fan on chipset.May or may not be noisy for you...

I have researched the boards a lot and most don’t have any issues with fans. Good ones I found are:

ASUS X570 TUF PRO
MSI X570 Tomahawk
MSI X570 Unify
Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master

In that price order. I am just going for a TUF or Tomahawk because Unify doesn’t have RGB and Master is too rich for my blood.

[Treeckcold57]

I have researched the boards a lot and most don’t have any issues with fans. Good ones I found are:

ASUS X570 TUF PRO
MSI X570 Tomahawk
MSI X570 Unify
Gigabyte X570 Aorus Master

In that price order. I am just going for a TUF or Tomahawk because Unify doesn’t have RGB and Master is too rich for my blood.

I'd avoid Gigabyte. There is a huge thread at hardforum about it. The guy was on like 5th units of X570 Aorus Master or so.

[KAC]

I'd avoid Gigabyte. There is a huge thread at hardforum about it. The guy was on like 5th units of X570 Aorus Master or so.

I am 100% set on picking up a MSI Tomahawk today. Otherwise it will be the TUF PRO.

[Nascar24]

I am 100% set on picking up a MSI Tomahawk today. Otherwise it will be the TUF PRO.

You building a complete new system or just pulling your Intel board and processor you just finished up?

[KAC]

You building a complete new system or just pulling your Intel board and processor you just finished up?

I am just pulling board, processor and ram. Can’t find good ram at a good price. Got the MSI X570 Tomahawk. Now I think I will end up with GSkill NEO 3600 C16 16X2 kit.

[KAC]

Ok I am done spending money on 5 fps game performance improvement (on a good day).

Here is the build:
AMD 5900X
MSI Tomahawk X570 Wifi
G Skill DDR4 3600 C16 Ram Link
Also picked up a 1 TB SSD Crucial MX500

[acroig]

Ok I am done spending money on 5 fps game performance improvement (on a good day).

Here is the build:
AMD 5900X
MSI Tomahawk X570 Wifi
G Skill DDR4 3600 C16 Ram Link
Also picked up a 1 TB SSD Crucial MX500

, at least your expectations are reasonable. Then 3080Ti in Jan?

[KAC]

This time I am not waking up at nights to purchase a card. If it is readily available sure why not. Most likely end of Q1 is when I expect to pick up a Ti. By then the 3080 would’ve been 6 months old I guess.

[Nascar24]

Not seeing the Ti being worth the money or trouble.

[Nunz]

3600 C16. Oof. Good slow ram for that Ryzen..

I'm joking before you go off on an explanation ..

[KAC]

I found a 4000 C17 ram but it was 300 bucks. I said F you and left the shop.
Also not sure why are you saying slow ram. Most ram reviews I read said to buy this memory and overclock it to 3800 MHz and tighten some timings. I don’t know how to do that yet as I don’t know how to overclock a Ryzen but I will be pushing this to 3800 no problem.

[Nunz]

4000 isn't worth it, at least right now. Until AMD proves that all 5000 series can hit 2000 infinity fabric with an AGESA update, it's pointless. As of right now tons of people are struggling to get past 3866/3933.

3600 B-Die with low voltage/tCAS is the way to go. Once they fix the infinity fabric (if they can) a kit set like that will easily hit 4000CL16-17

[Nascar24]

I found a 4000 C17 ram but it was 300 bucks. I said F you and left the shop.
Also not sure why are you saying slow ram. Most ram reviews I read said to buy this memory and overclock it to 3800 MHz and tighten some timings. I don’t know how to do that yet as I don’t know how to overclock a Ryzen but I will be pushing this to 3800 no problem.

I don’t know if things changed with the 5000 series but they are pretty much pushed to the brink already. Might be a little better with the new ones.

[KAC]

I am very OK to not top any benchmarks or crap. I just need a stable system that can do whatever 1:1 with infinity fabric and a decent overclock. I have no clue about AMD and this is my first build since AMD Athlon something 3800+. Since I have spent now a little over 1150 bucks on this ordeal I just hope that it all pans out for me.

I really want to build a rig and just relax a bit and play games.

[Nunz]

You could easily be doing that right now, but you're hell bent on burning money for fun

[KAC]

Actually I got some money that I did not expect so I am buying all this stuff. Also the fact that I put my monitor and both consoles on 0% 9 month installment plans on my CC.

[Riptide]

3600 C16. Oof. Good slow ram for that Ryzen

Same kit I've got in here right now, that I just sold to a friend for $100. Been stable in this TUF X570 with every BIOS I've had on it.

There is a beta out now: AMD AM4 AGESA V2 PI 1.1.0.0 Patch C

Haven't loaded that one, but I may. I have a kit of samsung b-die 2x8gb headed here now, PC3800 14-16-16 1.5v. We'll see if it can run it at 3800mhz, but if not it'll be clocked back to 3600mhz until and if a BIOS release stabilizes it. Supposedly my 5950x gets here next week.

You could easily be doing that right now, but you're hell bent on burning money for fun

Well, burning it for fun is part of what it's for I suppose.

[KAC]

Do tell how much improvement that gets you in games. Maybe at a later date I can also get that kit.

[Riptide]

Doubtful if it'll even be noticeable. My resolution is 4k, and at that resolution I'm nearly always GPU limited.

And yes, you can argue I wasted money here. I just wanted the tightest timings and fastest modules I can get for this machine, since I'm not planning on changing CPU or memory (and motherboard) for at least 3 years out.

[KAC]

Doubtful if it'll even be noticeable. My resolution is 4k, and at that resolution I'm nearly always GPU limited.

And yes, you can argue I wasted money here. I just wanted the tightest timings and fastest modules I can get for this machine, since I'm not planning on changing CPU or memory (and motherboard) for at least 3 years out.

Yes that was my plan as well. It’s been 2 years 2 months

[Nunz]

The kit already being at 1.5v doesn't leave much OC room. You could push 1.55v but I wouldn't go above that for 24/7 use.

I was trolling KAC about the RAM guys

[KAC]

Well your trolling has been successful.

[Nunz]

My buddy grabbed a 3600XT at microcenter super cheap on sale. I just recommended him the G.Skill NEO 3600CL16 2x16 set. He won't ever OC and only uses it to play Minecraft with his son, so it's a perfect set.

I actually don't know if that set is B-Die or not. If it is, it likely could hit 3800CL16 with a bump in voltage.