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    Originally posted by acroig View Post
    Jesus f'ing Christ! MC and their f'ing vouchers.... they must looove seeing people stand in line like it was 1983....
    Just let us buy online and pick up, some people have to work.

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      Originally posted by Nascar24 View Post
      Just let us buy online and pick up, some people have to work.
      THIS! I mean, WTF.....

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        Guys is 5800X enough?

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          Originally posted by acroig View Post
          THIS! I mean, WTF.....
          And why the hell do they want to have people wait in a dam line during a pandemic?

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            Originally posted by KAC View Post
            Guys is 5800X enough?
            Looks like 5800X is all you need, looks like it beats the 5900X is some games.

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              Originally posted by Nascar24 View Post
              And why the hell do they want to have people wait in a dam line during a pandemic?
              This has burned me ever since they said no online purchasing for the 3080, totally stupid.

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                If this launch is any indication, people better rev up their bots for the navi launch.

                2020 sucks for upgrading computer hw.



                RIP INTEL though.
                Last edited by Mangler; Nov 5, 2020, 07:16 AM.

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                  wth, It looks like the 6 core 5600X is all you need., I dont think the 8 core is worth the extra $150 for gaming.

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                    Originally posted by Nascar24 View Post
                    wth, It looks like the 6 core 5600X is all you need., I dont think the 8 core is worth the extra $150 for gaming.
                    I'm down with that assessment. Right now 6C 12T is the gaming CPU sweet spot.

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                      Originally posted by acroig View Post
                      I'm down with that assessment. Right now 6C 12T is the gaming CPU sweet spot.
                      Maybe I will stop by microcenter and pick up a 5600x if it states there is still stock later after selling my 1080 ti.

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                        Sold out in seconds but am waiting for a more resonably priced 5700x...

                        Asus CH dark hero 8 seems to be the best mobo to get for this gen:

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                          Imagine intel having to sell the 10900k at $275 to compete.
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                            Originally posted by CurrentlyPissed View Post
                            Imagine intel having to sell the 10900k at $275 to compete.
                            , that would be classic.

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                              Originally posted by Nascar24 View Post
                              Maybe I will stop by microcenter and pick up a 5600x if it states there is still stock later after selling my 1080 ti.
                              Ok, I just changed my mind This is a no go for me at 4K. Absolutely no gains.
                              But I guess we all knew that already.

                              https://www.techpowerup.com/review/a...-5600x/18.html

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                                Originally posted by Nascar24 View Post
                                Ok, I just changed my mind This is a no go for me at 4K. Absolutely no gains.
                                But I guess we all knew that already.

                                https://www.techpowerup.com/review/a...-5600x/18.html
                                Yeah looks like 4k is a wash still. Gonna stick with the 3700x and just wait to do a full platform upgrade next round with DDR5.
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                                  That was with a 2080 ti though, the results might be slightly different on a 3080.

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                                    Originally posted by Mangler View Post
                                    That was with a 2080 ti though, the results might be slightly different on a 3080.
                                    I don't think it will be as all tests so far have shown the same with a 3080 with say the 10900K at 4K. I guess it could be a few frames as the 10900k has shown that in a few games.

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                                      Originally posted by Nascar24 View Post
                                      Ok, I just changed my mind This is a no go for me at 4K. Absolutely no gains.
                                      But I guess we all knew that already.

                                      https://www.techpowerup.com/review/a...-5600x/18.html
                                      Yeah I was just going to say, going from a 3700X to 5600X (or even 5800X) seems pointless for 4K gaming. You are GPU limited at that res.

                                      I will probably wait a year or two until I can get a 5000 series CPU for cheap and drop it in for the hell of it.

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                                        Originally posted by Mangler View Post
                                        That was with a 2080 ti though, the results might be slightly different on a 3080.
                                        Possibly but still too little ban for the upgrade buck, IMHO.

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                                          Originally posted by acroig View Post
                                          Possibly but still too little ban for the upgrade buck, IMHO.
                                          not when you add in amd smart access memory

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                                            Originally posted by bill dennison View Post
                                            not when you add in amd smart access memory
                                            Show me the money!!

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                                              Originally posted by bill dennison View Post
                                              not when you add in amd smart access memory

                                              Ya this is important not so much for more fps as for world building games. Its the same principle as the tech in the PS5 that was demoed. Highly detailed worlds with no load zones.

                                              Its enough to sell me on a mobo/cpu combo.
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                                                Originally posted by bill dennison View Post
                                                not when you add in amd smart access memory
                                                I will believe that when I see reviews with 4K results.

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                                                  Originally posted by Nascar24 View Post
                                                  I will believe that when I see reviews with 4K results.
                                                  Like I said, show me the money....

                                                  May make more sense @ 1440p though....

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                                                    It sucks that direct storage isn't coming to pc this year, we might have better graphics cards and cpus than the new consoles, but the consoles will have super short load times.

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                                                      Originally posted by acroig View Post
                                                      This has burned me ever since they said no online purchasing for the 3080, totally stupid.
                                                      I'm glad they didn't do online purchasing. Letting bots snag up every card was ****. At least Microcenter ****ed that up for them.

                                                      They've done **** the right way. Best Buy should have done the same.
                                                      Originally posted by curio
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                                                        Originally posted by Nunz View Post
                                                        I'm glad they didn't do online purchasing. Letting bots snag up every card was ****. At least Microcenter ****ed that up for them.

                                                        They've done **** the right way. Best Buy should have done the same.
                                                        They both could have done same thing EVGA did, put people in a queue for the product they wanted.

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                                                          What's the point of having a store then? Maybe I don't want to sit playing the F5 game all day. There's plenty of options already if you want to do that.
                                                          Originally posted by curio
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                                                            Still a few left but they are slowly going down, 5600X at my microcenter location will be gone soon.

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                                                              The 5950X looks fantastic but I'm going to wait for AM5 to do a full rebuild. If AMD can rip this much performance out of AM4, dear God I can't wait to see what they do next year.
                                                              Originally posted by curio
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                                                                Thinking about cancelling my 5800X after that review.

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                                                                  Originally posted by Nunz View Post
                                                                  The 5950X looks fantastic but I'm going to wait for AM5 to do a full rebuild. If AMD can rip this much performance out of AM4, dear God I can't wait to see what they do next year.
                                                                  We need Graphics cards to pick up the pace for gaming as all that power just goes to waste if your main purpose is gaming.

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                                                                    Originally posted by KAC View Post
                                                                    Thinking about cancelling my 5800X after that review.
                                                                    You game at 1440 so there are gains for you, I don't do anything other then 4k so the upgrade is useless for even my 3700X.

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                                                                      Only Anandtech as far as I have seen so far is actually, you know Testing the bloody CPU and not the GPU.

                                                                      They dropped resolution as low as 360p which basically fully decouples the GPU from the equation as much as possible.
                                                                      Last edited by Shapeshifter; Nov 5, 2020, 11:12 AM.
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                                                                        Originally posted by Shapeshifter View Post
                                                                        Only Anandtech as far as I have seen so far is actually, you know Testing the bloody CPU and not the GPU.

                                                                        They dropped resolution as low as 360p which basically fully decouples the GPU from the equation as much as possible.
                                                                        computerbase.de has 720p results
                                                                        https://www.computerbase.de/2020-11/...l_core_in_720p

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                                                                          Originally posted by Higgy10 View Post
                                                                          nice to see more places need to do this.

                                                                          I see way way to many people arguing it's pointless to test at low resolutions, even saying 1080p is pointless that everything should be tested at 1440p and 4k.

                                                                          Try to point out to them it becomes a bottleneck GPU test then and they don't get it, even after showing 4k gaming charts going back to like the 2600k and how little difference there is.

                                                                          CPU test not GPU

                                                                          They still don't get it.
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                                                                            Originally posted by Shapeshifter View Post
                                                                            nice to see more places need to do this.

                                                                            I see way way to many people arguing it's pointless to test at low resolutions, even saying 1080p is pointless that everything should be tested at 1440p and 4k.

                                                                            Try to point out to them it becomes a bottleneck GPU test then and they don't get it, even after showing 4k gaming charts going back to like the 2600k and how little difference there is.

                                                                            CPU test not GPU

                                                                            They still don't get it.
                                                                            People are focused on their use cases not arbitrary bullshit that they will never attempt.

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                                                                              Looks like AMD finally focused on bringing actual benefit to home users who do a little photo and video editing as well as general usage and gaming. Looks like the 5900X will be about 5% to 10% faster than an overclocked 10900K at gaming. It's nice to see AMD actually push the PC gaming industry forward for a change.

                                                                              I usually buy a new CPU when my current CPU becomes the bottleneck in my system, so buying a CPU that is 10% faster at 1080P just means that it will last longer before eventually bottlenecking the system at 4K in a few years vs the 10% slower chip. You get more for your money and AMD is now offering performance leadership in all areas of the PC on a platform that is fairly stable. It's prices have creeped up but that is what happens when the competition isn't doing much in terms of core counts. Either way AMD is clearly the "go to" chip manufacturer for PC gaming at the moment as there is no point in paying similar money for a chip that is 10% slower than the 5900X from Intel.

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                                                                                Guys any good reviews to read through. I love the techpowerup reviews which basically state that I will lose performance of about 1% going with this 5800X at 1440P since 5800X OC vs stock 8700K is like 1.3% difference. I get about 2-3% higher performance than stock using a 8086K @ 4.9 GHz.

                                                                                Really am not seeing the point of throwing away $1000 right now. Someone convince me otherwise.

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                                                                                  Originally posted by KAC View Post
                                                                                  Guys any good reviews to read through. I love the techpowerup reviews which basically state that I will lose performance of about 1% going with this 5800X at 1440P since 5800X OC vs stock 8700K is like 1.3% difference. I get about 2-3% higher performance than stock using a 8086K @ 4.9 GHz.

                                                                                  Really am not seeing the point of throwing away $1000 right now. Someone convince me otherwise.
                                                                                  If you remain GPU bottlenecked at the resolution you play at then there is no real point in upgrading. If you are bottlenecked by your current CPU then buy the fastest CPU you can afford at the moment to replace it.

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