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    Official AMD Ryzen 5000 Series & 7000 Series Thread

    https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ceza...gh-to-get-navi

    This is not news, but a confirmation from a reputable source. We have already covered Cezanne and other AMD APUs in an article last month. AMD Cezanne is expected to launch under Ryzen 5000G, H, and U series next year. This is a successor to Renoir, which took the mobile market by surprise.
    APUs: Renoir -> Cezanne -> Rembrandt?

    It is now exclusively reported by Igor Wallossek, that Cezanne silicon is still in an A0 stepping, which means an early stage of development. On the other hand, Vermeer (Ryzen 4000 desktop) is already on B0 stepping, which is more or less the final state and the processors should be ready for mass production.

    AMD Cezanne is now confirmed by Igor to feature Vega graphics, likely to be the final refresh of the Vega graphics we have already seen in Picasso APUs, later refreshed for Renoir silicon.

    The company is also expected to unveil its Van Gogh silicon for low-power APUs, likely to be a successor just released Dali APUs under Athlon 3000U series. However, unlike Cezanne, Van Gogh is expected to feature RDNA-based GPU cores. At the same time, the low power APUs are rumored to carry Zen2 cores, so it’s one step further and one step backward.

    Things are about to change with Rembrandt’s arrival. This is the successor to Cezanne, but not only featuring newer Zen3 cores but also RDNA-based integrated graphics. Combining the best of both CPU and GPU worlds.
    CPUs: Matisse -> Vermeer -> Warhol -> Raphael?

    It is still not quite clear what will happen after Vermeer, the next-generation Ryzen 4000 mainstream desktop series. We have already had a leak mentioning Warhol and Raphael, but it was not official or reported by other reputable sources to really take it seriously.

    Next year AMD will be shifting to a newer socket, so Warhol could be an interim series while we make the transition. Warhol is also rumored to be Zen3 still, but probably a refreshed design known as Zen3+.

    Meanwhile, its successor is currently expected to be Raphael, would bring Zen4 cores to the market, this is the true upgrade for Ryzen family, as it should feature 5nm core design and support for DDR5 memory.
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    Hit me with that Vermeer baby
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      #3
      Nice! Hopefully my board will support the Zen4 architecture and I'll move to a Ryzen 6000 in a couple years.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Jet Black View Post
        Nice! Hopefully my board will support the Zen4 architecture and I'll move to a Ryzen 6000 in a couple years.
        The transition from DDR4 to DDR5 will necessitate a new mobo.

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          #5
          Interesting tweet here saying asus ch6 will get ryzen 4k support:

          https://twitter.com/1usmus/status/1262983408306790401


          Yuri Bubliy
          @1usmus
          Replying to
          @mustmann

          @Thracks
          and 3 others
          I'll open the curtain. This board will have Zen 3 support.
          2:48 AM · May 20, 2020·Twitter for iPhone
          Hes the guy who wrote drma calculator. Does asus ch6 have 32 meg bios chip?
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            #6
            Originally posted by GTwannabe View Post
            The transition from DDR4 to DDR5 will necessitate a new mobo.
            Crap.

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              #7
              Man... I think this might end up being the only time I've skipped an entire generation of memory for my desktop . Assuming I don't cave and buy into the last AM3 generation of Ryzen before the end of the year.
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                #8
                AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3000 CPU Official Specs Leak Out – Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3995WX Flagship, Up To 64 Cores, 128 Threads, 128 PCIe Lanes & 8-Channel / 2TB DDR4 Memory Support
                Prices of these parts remain to be disclosed but we will be getting more information on 14th of July which is suggested to be the announcement day for the AMD Ryzen Threadripper PRO 3000 series family


                https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-threa...hannel-memory/

                hope July 14th they talk about navi 2x also

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by pax View Post
                  Interesting tweet here saying asus ch6 will get ryzen 4k support:

                  https://twitter.com/1usmus/status/1262983408306790401




                  Hes the guy who wrote drma calculator. Does asus ch6 have 32 meg bios chip?
                  I really hope it is true. The truth is there's not that much difference between X370 and X470 so it should be do-able. If I did not have to pull my CH6 to upgrade that would be a huge boon.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Nagorak View Post
                    I really hope it is true. The truth is there's not that much difference between X370 and X470 so it should be do-able. If I did not have to pull my CH6 to upgrade that would be a huge boon.
                    I just put in the latest bios F50d with agesa 1.0.0.6 up from F50a 1.0.0.4 and its the same size as the old bios while adding R3K XT cpus support.

                    https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard...upport-dl-bios

                    Update AMD AGESA ComboV1 1.0.0.6 for 3rd Gen AMD Ryzen XT series processors and New Gen AMD Ryzen with Radeon Graphics processors support
                    Fix AMD security vulnerabilities for SMM Callout Privilege Escalation
                    I really think they can cram R4K in the remaining 5.7 megs. I just cant see why not.
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                      #11
                      I noticed the 5000g will still be using Vega. I really hope by the time DDR5 is normalized that AMD will take its APUs seriously. I really like the idea of a 65 watt TDP SoC that could double as a mid range gaming PC in a pinch. I have a Ryzen3 2200g in my media PC, and you'd be surprised how many AAA games it can play at 900p or better. You'd also be surprised how far back in time you have to go to find something playable at 1440p or higher. My point anyway, is that even though they've only really done low end so far, there is still a lot of potential.
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                        #12
                        AMD Says Its High-Performance Journey Will Continue With Zen 3, Ryzen 4000, Vermeer Desktop CPUs, On-Track For Launch Later This Year
                        AMD has so far confirmed themselves that Zen 3 brings a brand new CPU architecture, which helps deliver significant IPC gains, faster clocks, and even higher core counts than before. Some rumors have even pointed to a 17% increase in IPC and a 50% increase in Zen 3's floating-point operations along with a major cache redesign.
                        https://wccftech.com/amd-high-perfor...-desktop-cpus/

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by hazindu View Post
                          I noticed the 5000g will still be using Vega. I really hope by the time DDR5 is normalized that AMD will take its APUs seriously. I really like the idea of a 65 watt TDP SoC that could double as a mid range gaming PC in a pinch. I have a Ryzen3 2200g in my media PC, and you'd be surprised how many AAA games it can play at 900p or better. You'd also be surprised how far back in time you have to go to find something playable at 1440p or higher. My point anyway, is that even though they've only really done low end so far, there is still a lot of potential.
                          AMD gimps themselves somehow...the 4000 series APU gets boosted with Zen2 but then gets crippled with Vega8 on the top end (instead of using Vega11). Its somewhat compensated with the higher clocks but the performance increase could have been higher than what it is going to be.
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Sasquach View Post
                            AMD gimps themselves somehow...the 4000 series APU gets boosted with Zen2 but then gets crippled with Vega8 on the top end (instead of using Vega11). Its somewhat compensated with the higher clocks but the performance increase could have been higher than what it is going to be.
                            The APUs are completely limited by memory bandwidth, so the extra CUs wouldn't make much difference. With the higher IGP clock speed they probably figured they could cut the 3 CUs without it really affecting performance. Maybe if the 8 CUs can clock higher then it could even be a better configuration.

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                              #15
                              https://www.tomshardware.com/news/am...hz-boost-clock


                              It's been quite some time since AMD released a CPU that can hit a 5 GHz clock speed. But that may change soon. A new report claims that Zen 3 (codename Vermeer) could bring another 5-GHz AMD desktop CPU to the market.

                              Igor's Lab today reported the discovery of two new ordering part numbers (OPNs): 100-000000065-04_ 46/36 _Y and 100-000000061-06_ 49/37 _Y. They are reportedly for for models with 16 CPU cores and should be the descendant of the Ryzen 9 3950X. The highest clocked engineering sample seemingly has a 3.7 GHz base clock and 4.9 GHz boost clock. For reference, the Ryzen 9 3950X sports a 3.5 GHz base clock and 4.7 GHz boost clock. If Igor's Lab's report is correct, we're looking at 5.7% and 4.3% improvements on the base and boost clocks, respectively.
                              Honeslty if they dont hit 5.0 this time they arent trying.
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by pax View Post
                                https://www.tomshardware.com/news/am...hz-boost-clock




                                Honeslty if they dont hit 5.0 this time they arent trying.
                                "Doooohhh, speed is only measured in GHz. Architecture means nothing. I know it all."

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                                  #17
                                  AMD’s Next-Gen Cezanne Ryzen 5000 APUs To Feature Eight Zen 3 Cores Per CCX on AM4 & FP6 – EPYC Milan & Ryzen Vermeer ES CPUs Spotted Again
                                  https://wccftech.com/amd-next-gen-ce...cores-per-ccx/

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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Galmok View Post
                                    "Doooohhh, speed is only measured in GHz. Architecture means nothing. I know it all."
                                    If the boost clock can do 4.9 as rumored they should do 5.0 with ever so slighlty better cooling. Its not about perf at this point its about good marketing.
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                                      #19
                                      AM4 still?

                                      Isnt it gonna die after Ryzen4000?
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                                        #20
                                        AMD Ryzen 4000 smashes world record RAM speeds
                                        The Asus ROG team have smashed a new world record by pushing a stick of Crucial Ballistix Max DDR4 RAM to a whopping 6,666.6MHz – it usually runs at 2,666MHz – achieving the highest-clocked memory speed of all time.
                                        https://www.techradar.com/news/amd-r...ord-ram-speeds

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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Sasquach View Post
                                          AM4 still?

                                          Isnt it gonna die after Ryzen4000?

                                          The 5000 gen of apus uses the 4000 gen (zen3) ryzen cores. As the 4000 gen apus use ryzen 3000... so expect the 6000 gen apus to probably be the last apus on am4.
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                                            #22
                                            https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-ryze...artially-leaks

                                            so it really does look like a planned warhol cpu for 2021, the AM4's last hurrah I suppose. I imagine it's probably going to be like the difference between zen and zen+, a nice bump but nothing like zen+ to zen 2.
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                                              #23
                                              Hmm well Zen+ had a node change to 12nm from 14nm. While this doesnt seem to. Itd be cool to see Zen 3+ on 6 or 5nm tho.
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by pax View Post
                                                Hmm well Zen+ had a node change to 12nm from 14nm. While this doesnt seem to. Itd be cool to see Zen 3+ on 6 or 5nm tho.
                                                I could see 7nm+ EUV or something used for it
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                                                  #25
                                                  1usmus Unveils ClockTuner Performance Boosting Utility For AMD Ryzen 3000 CPUs, Also Improves Efficiency of Each CCX
                                                  https://wccftech.com/1usmus-unveils-...zen-3000-cpus/

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                                                    #26

                                                    Awesome time saver for casual ocers/undervolters. Will keep an eye out for it when they have fleshed out all the zen 2 cpus for it. Maybe even get zen 3 support?...
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                                                    "The Intelligibility of the Universe itself needs explanation. It is not the gaps of understanding of the world that points to God but rather the very comprehensibility of scientific and other forms of understanding that requires an explanation." -Richard Swinburne

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                                                      #27
                                                      So the 520's will have no issues running zen3 and above but were supposed to believe the x370's with better vrm's cant...


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                                                      "The Intelligibility of the Universe itself needs explanation. It is not the gaps of understanding of the world that points to God but rather the very comprehensibility of scientific and other forms of understanding that requires an explanation." -Richard Swinburne

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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by pax View Post
                                                        So the 520's will have no issues running zen3 and above but were supposed to believe the x370's with better vrm's cant...


                                                        [yt]2HBTmXWEHvY[/yt]
                                                        It's not that 300 series boards can't handle Zen 3; it's the fact that all of the microcode required to support all of the AM4 SKUs doesn't fit in a standard 16MB BIOS flash chip. Trying to support Zen 3 on 300-series boards would result in a massive number of RMAs due to users pairing a new CPU with an old stock mobo or an old stock CPU with a mobo flashed to the latest BIOS.

                                                        If AMD had mandated 32MB BIOS chips and/or BIOS flashback the situation would be much better.

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                                                          #29
                                                          No thats been debunked. Im running the latest 10 mb bios (latest agesa 1.0.0.6) out of 16 that includes apus. And even if you needed more than 6 megs of room few if any are running apus on a high end mobo. So ditch em.
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by pax View Post
                                                            No thats been debunked. Im running the latest 10 mb bios (latest agesa 1.0.0.6) out of 16 that includes apus. And even if you needed more than 6 megs of room few if any are running apus on a high end mobo. So ditch em.
                                                            Its true to a certain extent.

                                                            They'd have to pick and choose which CPU's to support and which to drop.

                                                            I had installed a Ryzen 3600 into an A320 mobo when those first came out, and the bios update had removed support for all the CPU's prior to the zen lineup (i forget if they even removed support for Zen1) and reduced the bios UI from fancy to just basic.
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                                                              #31
                                                              https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comment...ng_to_am4_now/

                                                              Ryzen 4000 support popping up in new bios apparently
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                                                                #32
                                                                So the bios size is what...
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by pax View Post
                                                                  So the bios size is what...
                                                                  OK so its under 10 megs (9.975KB actually)... supports both apus and cpus...

                                                                  I call shens.
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                                                                  Only superficial people cant be superficial... Oscar Wilde

                                                                  Piledriver Rig 2016: Gigabyte G1 gaming 990fx. FX 8350 cpu. XFX RX 480 GTR Cats 22.7.1, SoundBlaster ZXR, 2 x 8 gig ddr3 1866 Kingston. 1 x 2tb Firecuda seagate with 8 gig mlc SSHD. Sharp 60" 4k 60 hz tv. Win 10 home.

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                                                                  Ignore List: Keystone, Andino... -My Baron, he wishes to inform you that vendetta, as he puts it in the ancient tongue, the art of kanlee is still alive... He does not wish to meet or speak with you...-
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                                                                  "The Intelligibility of the Universe itself needs explanation. It is not the gaps of understanding of the world that points to God but rather the very comprehensibility of scientific and other forms of understanding that requires an explanation." -Richard Swinburne

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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Gigabyte bios

                                                                    https://www.gigabyte.com/ca/Motherbo...upport-dl-bios

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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Shapeshifter View Post
                                                                      Man they added zen 3 support with only half a meg worth of bios data vs the previous bios that was only supporting zen 2.

                                                                      Cmon

                                                                      9.63 megs but they cant add zen 3 to x370? BS
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                                                                      Ryzen Rig 2017: Gigabyte X370 K7 F50d bios. Ryzen 5800X3D :). 2 x 8 ddr4 3600 (@3200) Cas 16 Gskill. Sapphire Vega 64 Reference Cooler Cats 22.4.1. 1700 mhz @1.1v. Soundblaster X Ae5, 32" Dell S3220DGF 1440p Freesync Premium Pro monitor, Kingston A2000 1TB NVME. 4 TB HGST NAS HD. Win 11 pro.

                                                                      Ignore List: Keystone, Andino... -My Baron, he wishes to inform you that vendetta, as he puts it in the ancient tongue, the art of kanlee is still alive... He does not wish to meet or speak with you...-
                                                                      "Either half my colleagues are enormously stupid, or else the science of darwinism is fully compatible with conventional religious beliefs and equally compatible with atheism." -Stephen Jay Gould, Rock of Ages.
                                                                      "The Intelligibility of the Universe itself needs explanation. It is not the gaps of understanding of the world that points to God but rather the very comprehensibility of scientific and other forms of understanding that requires an explanation." -Richard Swinburne

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                                                                        #36
                                                                        When is this board and proc combo out?

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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by KAC View Post
                                                                          When is this board and proc combo out?
                                                                          November/December.
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Thanks.

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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by pax View Post
                                                                              So the bios size is what...
                                                                              When people talk about "BIOS size", are they referring to the size in megabytes and the like or physical size? And what is the importance of BIOS size?

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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Referring to how much data can be stored in Bios. It can be an issue because like the current situation, when new CPUs are released there may not be enough room to add bios support/firmware for those CPUs, even though the board can physically support them.

                                                                                I thought a solution could be to perhaps have several tiers of Bios and you just install the version that supports your CPU, but I suppose that just gets too messy for the average user and opens a can of worms concerning tech support for AMD.
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