Corsair H50

[Qb2k5]

I was looking at the Domino alc cooler but this Corsair takes the cake.

http://hardocp.com/news.html?news=Mzk5MzcsLCxoZW50aHVzaWFzdCwsLDE=

Corsair, a worldwide leader in high-performance computer memory, power supplies and flash memory products, including solid-state drives, today debuted the new Corsair Cooling Hydro Series H50 high-performance CPU cooler at Computex 2009. Working in concert with ASEtek, a worldwide leader in liquid cooling systems for high-performance computing, Corsair has developed an easy-to-install CPU cooling solution that outperforms stock CPU coolers by more than 30%.

Utilizing a copper CPU cooling plate and integrated pump connected to a 120mm radiator and high-efficiency, low-noise fan, the Hydro Series H50 delivers superior cooling for higher overclocking performance and greater stability. Unlike traditional liquid-cooling solutions, the H50 is a closed-loop system that is supplied pre‑filled and fully connected using low permeability tubing to virtually eliminate evaporation and leaking.

Not bad for $85. Anyone else watching this?

[Dreven]

virtually eliminates evaporation
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[traitoR]

It's just a rebranded Asetek from the looks of it, it's been around for quite a while already Coolit also has stand alone CPU water cooling, they don't seem to perform en par with their price premium IMHO.

[-=Antimatter=-]

The more interesting (and expensive) ones use a thermoelectric cooler, I'd much rather have one of those if you can spare the wattage.

[Jokerzwild]

THREAD RESURRECTION!!!!!

I just bought one of these things. I was in Best Buy looking for a game and saw this on the shelf, I was surprised they carried something like this because their pc parts section is crap. Of course my needless purchase gene kicked in and I picked it up, cost $60.

I've got new s1156 parts+new DDR3 sitting under the tree, and I thought I would wait to use this cooler with that, but once I got home and opened it up I had to jump the gun just to see what it did . Works pretty damn good on my Q6600, lowered my temps by around 15-20 degrees from the POS Freezer 7 Pro I was using on it, and it's dead quiet. It's idling at 28-30 degrees (was idling at 42) and it loads at 51 (was at 65-70). Pretty good drops there!

I almost broke it putting it in . I'm a real man so I never read instructions, so I tightened the screws WAY too tight. The first time I fired it up it was idling at 80 degrees according to the BIOS, and once I tore it back apart I realized that I torqued the screws so tight that the block was freakin cockeyed. What an absolute moron I am. I just wanted the damn thing to stay put, I've always hated the push pins and was happy to have something I could tighten... and tighten I did . A quick glance at the instructions letting me know to only tighten it 4-5 turns per screw and I was good to go. Luckily no permanant damage and the bracket's unbent. I think I need to redo it again because I got frustrated fiddling with the bracket the second time and I'm sure the thremal paste got on uneven as hell.

Cool looking too, when my wife gets back with the camera I'll put some pics of it in the "my rig" thread.

[Jokerzwild]

Wow... didn't realize this thread was so old . I just searched for the last thread about this because I knew I'd seen one before. Oops.

[Dave]

THREAD RESURRECTION!!!!!

I just bought one of these things. I was in Best Buy looking for a game and saw this on the shelf, I was surprised they carried something like this because their pc parts section is crap. Of course my needless purchase gene kicked in and I picked it up, cost $60.

I've got new s1156 parts+new DDR3 sitting under the tree, and I thought I would wait to use this cooler with that, but once I got home and opened it up I had to jump the gun just to see what it did . Works pretty damn good on my Q6600, lowered my temps by around 15-20 degrees from the POS Freezer 7 Pro I was using on it, and it's dead quiet. It's idling at 28-30 degrees (was idling at 42) and it loads at 51 (was at 65-70). Pretty good drops there!

I almost broke it putting it in . I'm a real man so I never read instructions, so I tightened the screws WAY too tight. The first time I fired it up it was idling at 80 degrees according to the BIOS, and once I tore it back apart I realized that I torqued the screws so tight that the block was freakin cockeyed. What an absolute moron I am. I just wanted the damn thing to stay put, I've always hated the push pins and was happy to have something I could tighten... and tighten I did . A quick glance at the instructions letting me know to only tighten it 4-5 turns per screw and I was good to go. Luckily no permanant damage and the bracket's unbent. I think I need to redo it again because I got frustrated fiddling with the bracket the second time and I'm sure the thremal paste got on uneven as hell.

Cool looking too, when my wife gets back with the camera I'll put some pics of it in the "my rig" thread.

I did that too when I installed mine.

This thing does an awesome job cooling my i5 at 4ghz with 1.4volts. 63C max when folding.

[Qb2k5]

So Joker did you install the radiator backwards (sucking hot air from the exhaust fan inside the case) or did you install it so that the exhaust fan blows hot air out side of the case?

[Jokerzwild]

So Joker did you install the radiator backwards (sucking hot air from the exhaust fan inside the case) or did you install it so that the exhaust fan blows hot air out side of the case?

I've got it pulling air from outside of the case. It's probably totally disrupted airflow inside the case, but the ambient temps are only 28 degrees so I won't worry with it until I get ready to install my i7.

All I've got to take pics is my BBerry, and it has the crappiest camera I've had on a phone in a loooong time, but here's a quick snap:



The block/pump is on upside down because I read that it worked better that way on a few forums last night before I put it on.

[@md_Guy]

Was thinking about getting one of these for my PIIX3, one thing that has me concerned though is the whole "low permeability tubing to virtually eliminate evaporation" .. keyword being virtually, meaning that it doesn't totally eliminate evaporation ( problem I've had with previous H20 setups, I swear I water my "PC" more than I do the household plants ), so what happens eventually when the closed loop DOES need to be replenished ? Is the system serviceable ? I see the warranty is only 2 years.. I suppose that probably fits right inside the timeline of when any noticeable evaporation would occur, and like most items any such problem would then occur AFTER the warranty has expired.

[Jokerzwild]

Was thinking about getting one of these for my PIIX3, one thing that has me concerned though is the whole "low permeability tubing to virtually eliminate evaporation" .. keyword being virtually, meaning that it doesn't totally eliminate evaporation ( problem I've had with previous H20 setups, I swear I water my "PC" more than I do the household plants ), so what happens eventually when the closed loop DOES need to be replenished ? Is the system serviceable ? I see the warranty is only 2 years.. I suppose that probably fits right inside the timeline of when any noticeable evaporation would occur, and like most items any such problem would then occur AFTER the warranty has expired.

Makes sense, I'd imagine that the temps would get higher and higher over time if that were the case. Maybe you can refill it by getting a little inventive, after the warranty expires anyways.

I was worried that the tubing looked like cheap plastic crap, but that's really just an outer covering, there's braided metal tubing underneath and they're solid.

It's cool for right now in any case. I've never had temps this low with any cooler I've ever used.

[Lupine]

Looks good Jokerz. Also looks like your chassis has top exhaust fans, so I doubt the reversed rear fan is going to hurt much if any. Probably the only concern I have w/ such a setup is VRM cooling for the mobo, since much of that traditionally comes from the HSF. Be interesting to see if VRM temps are impacted one way or the other. Certainly offers a nice clean look.

[clerick]

Someo people have modded their H50s and the guy with the dual rad got an 11c drop on an i7 4.3!

http://www.overclock.net/water-cooling/612436-official-corsair-h50-hydro-series-owners.html

[-=Antimatter=-]

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1479232

[Treeckcold57]

Someo people have modded their H50s and the guy with the dual rad got an 11c drop on an i7 4.3!
http://www.overclock.net/water-cooli...es-owners.html

Sick!

[DaJMasta]

http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1479232

Yup. A solid deal for anyone interested.


Looks like 3/8" tubing and a single 120mm rad setup, increasing either should give you a notable drop with a proc of that TDP. Also zip tie hose clamps

Honestly with a single 120mm rad it probably can only get the i7 1336s to the temps of a high end tower cooler, perhaps with better conductivity and with less temp spikes because of the thermal mass of the liquid.

[Gandalfthewhite]

the fact that I live in AZ with an avg humidity of under 40% makes me nervous about evaporation.

[junglist1996]

Hey Jokerz, I was thinking of getting this cooler but I'm a bit concerned at the fan orientation. Did you by any chance use the fan in a pull configuration (i.e. draw air from inside the case thru the radiator and then exhaust)?

Also, Legit Reviews used a dual fan push-pull config with a nice drop in temps. Have you tried that?

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1025/6/

I'm not sure if that's possible on every case/mobo as it looks like the CPU block and the 2nd fan may potentially interfere each other on certain configurations.

[DaJMasta]

the fact that I live in AZ with an avg humidity of under 40% makes me nervous about evaporation.

Evaporation isn't a big deal with most decent quality tubing, though without a reservoir it's somewhat more of a concern. From the design they use, I wouldn't expect it to be any problem for the lifetime of the product (probably 3-4 years of continuous use), as the black tubing it shows is probably just a cover over the tubing inside, reducing the risk of evaporative loss considerably.

[junglist1996]

I finally ventured into liquid cooling with this "liquid cooling for dummies" kit over the weekend.







I'm quite happy with its performance. Compared with my 2+ year old TRUE.



That's after 40 minutes of Prime95 large FFT at 21c ambient. Although most of the reviews I've read shows the H50 and the TRUE are about neck and neck, temps are now about 5c lower with the H50. This is a 1st gen TRUE from 2007. I suspect the dust particles stuck on the cooling fins have adversely affected the TRUE's performance.

[AMDme]

I my H50...

[Ryan45]

I finally ventured into liquid cooling with this "liquid cooling for dummies" kit over the weekend.


I'm quite happy with its performance. Compared with my

That's after 40 minutes of Prime95 large FFT at 21c ambient. Although most of the reviews I've read shows the H50 and the TRUE are about neck and neck, temps are now about 5c lower with the H50. This is a 1st gen TRUE from 2007. I suspect the dust particles stuck on the cooling fins have adversely affected the TRUE's performance.

So you would say this is better than the TRUE? Right now I have a TRUE and was debating about going with the H50. How is the H50 in push pull with low airflow fans? 1000 RPM. Do you have it Exhausting out the back or Intake from the back?

[Ristogod]

So you would say this is better than the TRUE? Right now I have a TRUE and was debating about going with the H50. How is the H50 in push pull with low airflow fans? 1000 RPM. Do you have it Exhausting out the back or Intake from the back?

From the majority of reviews I've read, it's usually no better or worse than the TRUE. I'd let price be the determining factor honestly.

Another thought is the H50 is dependent on a working pump. Not sure how well it handles things when the pump quits or gives out. I'd at least make sure you can configure your PC to shut down when it doesn't detect the pump working anymore (I'm guessing the H50 has a monitoring lead to plug into the motherboard ?).

The TRUE on the other hand will usually handle a fan quitting as it doesn't require flow and will perform passively (just not very well).

Also, concerning radiators. I've always found this to be the best scenario in allowing them to work most effectively. If you mount a fan directly to the radiator, the center of the fan creates a dead-spot at the center of the radiator. It's usually not a real big deal, but it can be alleviated. The best is to use a spacer shroud between the fan and the radiator. I've always gotten better results from a fan-pulling-air-through configuration when using a shroud. You wouldn't think that it makes that much of a difference, but I was successful in monitoring a 1-2C temp drop at the CPU when setting my radiator up in that type of configuration.

You can create your own spacer by taking an old cheap 120mm fan and cutting out the fan in the middle. This should leave the outer frame. Then get some longer screws to pass through the pulling fan and the spacer frame.

Doing this usually alleviates the dead space in the middle of the radiator. This is most effective on single fan radiators also as with the smaller space, every little bit counts.

Of course by doing this you can't have a push/pull configuration as adding a push fan will simply reintroduce the dead space in the middle again.

The other advantage (albeit small) of using a pull w/spacer config is that it's usually a little quieter.

[Hapatingjaky]

I am really thinking of picking one of these up, my only concern is of course leakage and there goes my expensive rig.... This is the same price as the TRUE so I dunno. Probably go for this??? I might have to stop by and pick one up tonight after work.

The stock cooler can only do so much. RIght now my D0 i920 is at 2.8GHz using Turbo at its about 24c idle 30c load. Wanna get a new cooler before I push it to 3.6GHz.

[Ryan45]

I am really thinking of picking one of these up, my only concern is of course leakage and there goes my expensive rig.... This is the same price as the TRUE so I dunno. Probably go for this??? I might have to stop by and pick one up tonight after work.

The stock cooler can only do so much. RIght now my D0 i920 is at 2.8GHz using Turbo at its about 24c idle 30c load. Wanna get a new cooler before I push it to 3.6GHz.

I have read that Corsair will replace your equipment as long as the cooler is still under warranty if it leaks. So 2 years.

[Jokerzwild]

Hey Jokerz, I was thinking of getting this cooler but I'm a bit concerned at the fan orientation. Did you by any chance use the fan in a pull configuration (i.e. draw air from inside the case thru the radiator and then exhaust)?

Also, Legit Reviews used a dual fan push-pull config with a nice drop in temps. Have you tried that?

http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1025/6/

I'm not sure if that's possible on every case/mobo as it looks like the CPU block and the 2nd fan may potentially interfere each other on certain configurations.

Damn I'm sorry I missed your question, I forgot about this thread. Glad to see you got one and it's working out for you though!

I've got mine sucking air in, even though it goes against my thinking on airflow. Seems to work fine though, my CPU temps are amazingly low and ambient case temps are actually less than they were before I installed it so I guess airflow is fine. Never tried the double fan setup, but I did see that Legit Reviews thing right after I got it.

Good cooler, and I love the quieter fan. My old cpu cooler was a jet engine in retrospect, though I never thought about it at the time.

[traitoR]

The 240 mm model is more money but would probably cool a little better.

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=35702&...facture=Asetek

[ShaidarHaran]

I picked up an H50 a couple weeks ago for my E8400@4GHz system, because the dual-fan Xigmatek HDT-S1283 wasn't enough to handle the voltage I need to get my CPU 24x7 stable for F@H. The H50 did the trick though! Did it so well in fact that I've now decided to water cool my main PC to address the same issue (need more volts than my air cooler can handle).

[ShaidarHaran]

120mm mounting holes are a must, unless you can fabricate your own mount.

[Zero Wing]

120mm mounting holes are a must, unless you can fabricate your own mount.

I didn't delete my question fast enough (sorry) -- I've actually got a 120mm fan in that spot; for some stupid reason I initially thought it was 100mm.

[ShaidarHaran]

The 240 mm model is more money but would probably cool a little better.

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=35702&...facture=Asetek

Unfortunately, the pump & block on that cooler is actually not as good as the Corsair, so user reports are that it is little (5%) or no better than the H50. I actually thought about getting that exact unit but decided against it based on price and performance. The H50 really is the sweet spot right now.

[TombStone]

I am very happy with my H50. I have set it up exactlly as Corsair reccomends. I may install a second fan come summer, but, for now it's fine.

[Hapatingjaky]

Grabbed one on my way home from work, also picked up 7xThermaltake A2018 to go with it. Will use a push pull system for cooling.

Corsair recommends the opposite for my case though, do outtake instead of intake.

[Lupine]

Grabbed one on my way home from work, also picked up 7xThermaltake A2018 to go with it. Will use a push pull system for cooling.

Corsair recommends the opposite for my case though, do outtake instead of intake.

How did you end up mounting the 2nd fan? I'm planning to dual fan the H50 in my ATCS 840 rig.

[DeathKnight]

I'll be installing mine tomorrow and plan on doing the dual-fan config too. I know they recommend blowing the air into the case but I'm going to blow it out. With two fans on the radiator and my top exhasut fan I think I'll be fine. Once the traditional CPU HSF is removed from the equation there's not any significant heat generators in the top section of my case (Antec P180B). Going to be fun hauling it outside through the snow to the garage to blow out all the dust with the air compressor.

[TombStone]

I'll be installing mine tomorrow and plan on doing the dual-fan config too. I know they recommend blowing the air into the case but I'm going to blow it out. With two fans on the radiator and my top exhasut fan I think I'll be fine. Once the traditional CPU HSF is removed from the equation there's not any significant heat generators in the top section of my case (Antec P180B). Going to be fun hauling it outside through the snow to the garage to blow out all the dust with the air compressor.

I am very curious what difference that will make. I have the P183 case and would rather being blowing the air out than in.

Could you let me/us know what kind of temps you get?

Thanks

[ShaidarHaran]

How did you end up mounting the 2nd fan? I'm planning to dual fan the H50 in my ATCS 840 rig.

The H50 comes with extra screws to mount an additional fan, if you didn't notice.

TBH, user reports and tests show that there is very little additional temp drop from adding a 2nd fan to the H50, I've heard approximately 1 degree is all.

[DeathKnight]

I am very curious what difference that will make. I have the P183 case and would rather being blowing the air out than in.

Could you let me/us know what kind of temps you get?

Thanks

Yep. Temps with current cooler (Zalman CNPS9700 NT) are 35C idle and 61C load (Prime 95). Tomorrow I'll test with 1 fan then with the 2nd added on (blowing in and then out).

[Lupine]

I'll be installing mine tomorrow and plan on doing the dual-fan config too. I know they recommend blowing the air into the case but I'm going to blow it out.

I have a hard time believing that a case w/ good airflow wouldn't do better w/ the fan blowing out. I need to get something to measure the interior temps vs the temps behind my case, but w/ the GPU exhausting back there I'd be surprised if its any cooler than the interior.

The H50 comes with extra screws to mount an additional fan, if you didn't notice.

Hrm, no, I didn't notice that. Will have to check again.

[caveman-jim]

I think the H50 work better if you add a spacer to the second fan so you remove the dead zone.