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[Nunz]

It works fine but it has limitations as does any other case. KAC you just don't know how to build PCs

[KAC]

I just leave the glass open as I am mining but it is a pathetic case. Great for show boating but nothing else.

[alitayyab]

That looks like a perfect case for me. Lian Li is so garbage it isn’t even funny.

Agreed. Briefly used a O11dynamic XL. Tough to build in (cable routing was a pain). Could never get airflow right (no matter what fan config i tried). Eventually sold it. In my defense I had just recovered from COVID when I got it.

[KAC]

That looks like a perfect case for me. Lian Li is so garbage it isn’t even funny.

[alitayyab]

Using Corsair 7000D (Air version). Has tons of space that I am never going to use. Upgraded from a 5000D (even that was sufficient for my use, but got a great price for it).

Build quality is better than the 5000, much better than the 680X that I had before. It is a bit on the pricier side though.

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[Nunz]

We'll see. What ever case I end up moving to will likely get this loop transplanted until I know what case I'm buying and what size rads I can put within the loop.

With the upcoming GPUs looking to be even more power-hungry though, I just don't see 2x360 handling the next gen cards with maxed power limits, not even the thiccboi 60mm+ rads. It's fairly agreed on that 1mm surface area per 1watt of power, and with a 450watt GPU + 100w CPU (during gaming), I'm not that far off for the low WaterT delta I'm chasing.

I do agree though, bigger case will help me. I'm really hoping this CaseLabs revival works out, because they have the horizontal mount case I want. I just refuse to pay these crazy prices to buy one used and then have to design and build my own front-IO panel to modernize it.

[nycdarkness]

I mean the glass box argument doesn't really matter much when I'm running the rads as intake. They're taking in the coldest air possible. The poor grille design makes me have to bump the fans up higher to counter the needlessly higher static pressure, but that's really it. I have a single exhaust fan that draws the air out, plus the natural exhaust due to the positive pressure in the case through the PCIE slots, etc.

I need more rad surface area and I'm kind of capped out with the 011D XL. I don't want to have all my intake air from the rads (I could still add one more rad, but it wouldn't perform very well imo) since I need memory temps to stay under 45c, and if all the air pumped into the case is warmed from the rads then I'll end up heating the memory up.

The case isn't bad at all, but for what I'm doing it's just not cutting it. In my last house, the basement ambient was 17-18c, so it hid some of my problems. The air being pulled through the rads was so cool my waterT never really went above 30-31c which was very optimal.

You just need more air volume. Bigger case achieves the same goal as semi open air.

[Nunz]

I mean the glass box argument doesn't really matter much when I'm running the rads as intake. They're taking in the coldest air possible. The poor grille design makes me have to bump the fans up higher to counter the needlessly higher static pressure, but that's really it. I have a single exhaust fan that draws the air out, plus the natural exhaust due to the positive pressure in the case through the PCIE slots, etc.

I need more rad surface area and I'm kind of capped out with the 011D XL. I don't want to have all my intake air from the rads (I could still add one more rad, but it wouldn't perform very well imo) since I need memory temps to stay under 45c, and if all the air pumped into the case is warmed from the rads then I'll end up heating the memory up.

The case isn't bad at all, but for what I'm doing it's just not cutting it. In my last house, the basement ambient was 17-18c, so it hid some of my problems. The air being pulled through the rads was so cool my waterT never really went above 30-31c which was very optimal.

[nycdarkness]

Currently 2 Heatkiller 360-L in an 011D XL. Case is horrendous limiting the airflow with the stupid grille design. With the next gen GPUs likely pulling 600w+, and a hotter CPU (possibly grabbing ADL-X, if not Raptor Lake) .. 2x360 isn't going to cut it anymore. My loop is already struggling with a 3080TI STRIX + 12700K with a conservative OC at 4K. GPU capped at 2010 @ 0.937mv. at 4K though, I'm hitting 450watt pretty much all the time though.

I'm hitting 37c water temps in a 24c ambient, with the A12x25 getting up to about 1500rpm once the waterT is up there.13c delta is great overall, but I want to drive that down to around 8c. Another 360, or hopefully a case that allows 2x420/480 will fix that up for me.

I do push the hardware pretty hard so these are the problems that arise. The Cooler master HAF 700 Evo is insane and I love it, but for $650 I want a horizontal mobo mount.. for that price I refuse to compromise. I'd be better off paying MountainMods to custom design me an all-aluminum chassis and just throw another $300 at it.

I agree with you on people going with too much rads and not setting the airflow up correctly. I can assure you that's not the issue here though. Everything is set up as optimally as can be to maximize WaterT delta. I think the case is part of my issue.. I could test it to prove that, but the 011D grilles being restrictive is a well known issue.

The problem is your using a glass box. The o11s were outside of the mesh versions aren't that great. I would consider something semi open air. Lots of cases in that direction these days. Antec cannon is coming out soon, I know some folks who have it already as antec sponsored folks looking pretty good so far.

[Nunz]

Currently 2 Heatkiller 360-L in an 011D XL. Case is horrendous limiting the airflow with the stupid grille design. With the next gen GPUs likely pulling 600w+, and a hotter CPU (possibly grabbing ADL-X, if not Raptor Lake) .. 2x360 isn't going to cut it anymore. My loop is already struggling with a 3080TI STRIX + 12700K with a conservative OC at 4K. GPU capped at 2010 @ 0.937mv. at 4K though, I'm hitting 450watt pretty much all the time though.

I'm hitting 37c water temps in a 24c ambient, with the A12x25 getting up to about 1500rpm once the waterT is up there.13c delta is great overall, but I want to drive that down to around 8c. Another 360, or hopefully a case that allows 2x420/480 will fix that up for me.

I do push the hardware pretty hard so these are the problems that arise. The Cooler master HAF 700 Evo is insane and I love it, but for $650 I want a horizontal mobo mount.. for that price I refuse to compromise. I'd be better off paying MountainMods to custom design me an all-aluminum chassis and just throw another $300 at it.

I agree with you on people going with too much rads and not setting the airflow up correctly. I can assure you that's not the issue here though. Everything is set up as optimally as can be to maximize WaterT delta. I think the case is part of my issue.. I could test it to prove that, but the 011D grilles being restrictive is a well known issue.

[nycdarkness]

What you are running? Frankly most folks cram more rads in their case than they should and end up getting same or worse performance than if they didn't. For most folks, I find anything past 2x 360 rather unnecessary. I have about 5 builds running atm. The most surface area I have in one case is 2x480 and my delta there is less than 5 with a 32 core TR. and a 3090 running on 500wat bios.

[Nunz]

I'm currently in the market for a case. That isn't enough internal rad space for me though.

There's a guy who bought all of Caselabs old IP and is attempting to revive their old designs with modern updates (like front IO usb-c etc). He's expecting to be ready for production end of this year if nothing else goes wrong.

Guess I'm waiting for that..

Looks really good though, which is why I asked. I've been really craving something with a horizontal mobo mount, aka Caselabs style or Thermalfake X9 Snow Edition. Can't find them anymore though.

[nycdarkness]

Looks really good, but how many radiators can it fit? Two in the bottom chamber, and then what.. one on the top?

Just 2 in the bottom. Fitting one on top would hit the motherboard and not intended either. I have a 480 XE and 240 XE in there. I originally was doing 2x 480 XE with the psu relocated to the left section, but that made accessing anything psu related near impossible. I am using 90 FEs even when I have them both loaded in rendering, my temps aren't bad at all. My water delta under load is about 7c at most.

[Nunz]

Looks really good, but how many radiators can it fit? Two in the bottom chamber, and then what.. one on the top?

[nycdarkness]

Are those guy pimping out existing tj07's or did they buy the tooling needed to make more of them from silverstone?

There was custom run for the xforma mk2. That stopped a long time ago. Whatever was for sale in the last year was what was left of it. AS of currently they are all sold, but the base xforma mk2 case it's self is not something I would recommend as you need original add ons or a lot of customization to make it operable.

[Mangler]

Are those guy pimping out existing tj07's or did they buy the tooling needed to make more of them from silverstone?

[nycdarkness]

What case?

That looks like a silverstone TJ07.

Modified xforma.

[KAC]

nyc, if I am in nyc. I am asking you to build me a rig that I can haul back in hand carry

[Mangler]

What case?

That looks like a silverstone TJ07.

[Silent-Runner]

Not doing forums like I use to pretty much. The black is the best buy on the 3090ti from evga. Black to FTW3 Ultra are all the same from binning process etc. Really dick move of evga to price it at 3 different price points for the same gpu. The vbios boost specs dont even matter due to nvidia dynamic boost.

per topic. Current main daily

very clean case, like it a lot. Congratz!

[Nunz]

What case?

[nycdarkness]

Nyc where’d you go!
I bought the 3090 Ti off Riptide so again an EVGA. He made me an offer I couldn’t refuse.

Not doing forums like I use to pretty much. The black is the best buy on the 3090ti from evga. Black to FTW3 Ultra are all the same from binning process etc. Really dick move of evga to price it at 3 different price points for the same gpu. The vbios boost specs dont even matter due to nvidia dynamic boost.

per topic. Current main daily

[KAC]

Nyc where’d you go!
I bought the 3090 Ti off Riptide so again an EVGA. He made me an offer I couldn’t refuse.

[nycdarkness]

Did you get noticeable performance increase? How are the acoustics on that EVGA. Thinking about picking up the ASUS TUF 3090 Ti but it is quite pricey.

The tuf is garbage. Will hit 90s instantly and drop well below boost clock.

[AdamK47]

I should also mention the main reason for me to get the G1 over the C1 is the EVO panel (now called EX). The new LG OLED panels uses blue OLED material based on deuterium that both increases brightness and longevity.

[AdamK47]

AdamK47,

Is burn-in a concern of yours considering you are using an OLED for PC and gaming use?

Somewhat. I know how to mitigate it. I don't ever use Vivid picture mode. When I use it for desktop stuff, like web browsing, I use APS picture mode. Gaming is standard mode with 100 OLED brightness and 75 contrast. I know better than to leave static images on screen for long periods. I also turn it off whenever I'm not in my PC gaming room.

[MangaSpawn64]

AdamK47,

Is burn-in a concern of yours considering you are using an OLED for PC and gaming use?

That rich mofo probably has 3 spares in his closet

[Kain]

AdamK47,

Is burn-in a concern of yours considering you are using an OLED for PC and gaming use?

[Megaman]

12900KS

How could you possibly tell the CPU was running hot as hell with 2% perf gain over the 12900K?

[Talon_262]

Made another small change. Any guesses as to what it is?

Seeing the posts made as I was posting this one:

[Seyiji]

You got it! Good eyes.

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[AdamK47]

12900KS

You got it! Good eyes.

[Seyiji]

12900KS

[KAC]

I give up. Dafuq.

[AdamK47]

Made another small change. Any guesses as to what it is?