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Originally posted by demo View PostLook for yourself:
DX12 GPU and CPU Performance Tested: Ashes of the Singularity Benchmark I knew that the move to DirectX 12 was going to be a big shift for the industry. Since
Today we'll be looking at one of the very first DirectX 12 game benchmarks by using Stardock's real-time strategy game, Ashes of the Singularity. Ashes of the Singularity was developed with Oxide’s Nitrous game engine and tells the story of an existential war waged on an unprecedented scale across the galaxy.
A relevant blog post from the game's creators,Oxide: The birth of a new API PCPerspective ExtremeTech EuroGamer Legit Reviews Computerbase.de Thanks to @Mahigan for the insights and legwork! An Oxide rep responds to address the various discrepancies seen in the benchmark: Quote...
That's not to say things wont change, but that's the current situation.
I don't doubt it, but you're looking at a setup that if we take a current game like BF4 which uses DX11 obviously, and I set every option to ultra quality and go into a 64 player map, never mind the resolution but you already know I aim for the highest resolutions possible, and it's an 80 to 130 Fps experience the entire time.
To even get lows of 80 Fps, all hell needs to break loose where a lot of soldiers form both sides are throwing everything and the kitchen sink at each other....Seems I have plenty of CPU power even when most of the cores are doing jack **** basically, and btw i picked these particular CPU's because on low thread count applications which games are definitely a part of, the CPU's are running at a pretty respectable 3.8 Ghz in turbo mode.
Not the same as the 4.5+ Ghz overclocks you can hit i'm sure, but not too shabby, though it'll never be good value for the money at 2500$ for each CPU.....Yup 5000$ total, but i'm set for years in both professional applications which is the main workload and it's reason for being, but it also does surprisingly well in gaming too....
It's a setup that just says " Bring it Bitch " like none other.....At the cutting edge?, ha it's well beyond it and them some......
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Hey that's great. Would be too slow for my uses.CROSSHAIR X670E HERO / R9 7950X3D / RTX 4090 GAMING OC / TRIDENT Z5 NEO RGB 6000 CL30 / SAMSUNG 980pro 1TB / 2x SAMSUNG 980 1TB / H150i ELITE LCD / ATH-A2000Z / HX1200 / AW3821DW 38" / LG C2 OLED evo 55" / Enthoo 719 / K70 MKII + Zowie S2 / K57 + Harpoon / Xbox Series X Controller / REVERB G2 V2
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Originally posted by demo View PostHey that's great. Would be too slow for my uses.
I just go with the gold standard that every hardware site no matter which one it is, has used for the last 20 years......You hit 60 Fps constant and it's considered a smooth gameplay experience, be it Anandtech, the tech report, tom's hardware, Guru 3D, Hard OCP.....It's about the only thing all these sites really agree on....
Before all these high refresh monitors, or 3D glasses, or G-sync and Free-sync displays existed, everyone was having a ball if their Fps performance was 60 Fps, and had to keep V-sync on to avoid screen tearing were they not?.....And they did so for years and years.
I just go with what works, and my game playing hasen't suffered one bit....Last edited by shadow001; Aug 28, 2015, 02:49 PM.
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Originally posted by t0adp1p3 View PostARMA III says hi! You aren't maxing that shadow and getting 60 fps.
Can't say as I haven't tried that one.....
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Originally posted by shadow001 View PostI just go with the gold standard that every hardware site no matter which one it is, has used for the last 20 years......You hit 60 Fps constant and it's considered a smooth gameplay experience, be it Anandtech, the tech report, tom's hardware, Guru 3D, Hard OCP.....It's about the only thing all these sites really agree on....
Before all these high refresh monitors, or 3D glasses, or G-sync and Free-sync displays existed, everyone was having a ball if their Fps performance was 60 Fps, and had to keep V-sync on to avoid screen tearing were they not?.....And they did so for years and years.
I just go with what works, and my game playing hasen't suffered one bit....
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Originally posted by Mangler View PostBefore all these high refresh monitors we had high refresh CRT monitors, so no, everyone did not play at 60hz vsynced for years and years.
I think there were some models that refreshed at 90 hz, and I had 3 Viewsonic 19" inchers that did 1600*1200 that could do that, but they did cost 700$ a pop.....Not exactly a common display, and heavy as hell too....
My main point is that hitting 60 Fps is still considered the fully playable and smooth gaming experience, and has been the standard ever since 3Dfx showed it way back in the late 90's......Many things have come and gone with regards to PC's, but this one has been a constant the entire time.
Even the latest feature added to the catalyst drivers ( frame rate control ), maxes out at 95 Fps, and Nvidia has the same for it's drivers too but I don't know the upper limit on it......
If you're doing 95 Fps, then going even higher just makes your card use more power and run hotter for no appreciable gain in smoothness....
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Originally posted by shadow001 View PostAll that conjecture and reasoning and hoping developers do this and do that, that lower count CPU's perform like this and like that, and little old me not having to worry a damn thing about any of that at all and guess what, my current board can handle up to 36 CPU cores / 72 threads, and 1 TB of ram onboard......It is flipping insane, here it is:
It's fast now, it can become even more brutal later on.......I got CPU power for flipping years to come, regardless of application so I don't care about how things develop at all......Power is intoxicating, and you know it....THG is to computer hardware what MTV is to music.
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Originally posted by aviphysics View PostDamn, you must need a lot of conduit to keep all your wires in order.
Took me a month between all the water cooling, wiring and overall layout trying to make it look as neat as possible, but I won't show it given that I did that with the previous build, only to hear some asshole comments afterwards from some people.......I don't need that.
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Originally posted by BababooeyHTJ View PostA month?!
To really get it looking spotless, with perfect cable lengths and even braiding the individual wires, hiding as much of it as possible ( currently at 10 SSD, and 3 HDD's ), and making the water loop path as simple and effective looking as possible.....Has to look as expensive as it really was....LOL.
There's some in the extreme system forums that go even wilder by building their own custom cases, which in some examples means using 2 of the same case model and combining them into 1, using the additional space for cooling.....One worked his project for 6 months before it was done...Here's one of his projects, but not the one i'm talking about:
I think the word you're looking for after seeing this is stunning.....
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Damn that's beautiful, thanks for posting that.Originally posted by General LeeI've been praying for your nuts.Originally posted by General LeeIf you must listen to country [music], play it backwards. You get your woman back, the dog comes back to life, Momma pops out from under the train, and it stops raining. :)
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I'm not really a fan of the case itself. Looks good though.
Seeing all the stuff with individually sleeved wires has me thinking WTF. I remember when everybody wanted to have the all the wires in ones bundle inside one sleeve. I still prefer that method. I recently RMA'd a Corsair PSU that started buzzing. They sent a new set of cables. They will have each wire separated and have the excess cut off. Then they will be sleeved, not individually though. The way Corsair went with their cables sucks.ASUS Sabertooth, Mushkin PC3-16000 4x4GB 9-11-9-27, i7-3930k, Auzentech Prelude, XFX Black Edition DD R9-290x, Viewsonic VX924 and 2x VX922
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Originally posted by Mangler View PostIsn't the stacker build even older?
It was posted after the chrome cosmos build on the same page of the same thread, so I just assumed it was done later but yeah both are still pretty old builds no matter what.......He's been at it for the last 12 years..... :P
Edit : the first 2 builds are from 2008, so make that 17 years he's been at this, and I posted that last for the awesome paint job on everything....
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Originally posted by Kain View PostUnless I am mistaken or something, I never understood the point of spending so much time doing/building these amazing water cooled setups only to rip everything apart for an upgrade or part change. Isn't it super time consuming a tedious?
They don't change setups often for 20~30% improvements though.....Takes a lot more to impress them....
I built mine with the idea that I can hold on to it for a long time, and still be fully usable, with the means to handle up to 36 CPU cores / 72 threads, up to 1 TB of ram ( yes, 1000 GB), and fully handle 4 video cards in quad crossfire or SLI, as well as spare PCI-e slots and available lanes to swap for faster SSD controllers as new technology is developed.....It can stand the test of time and then some.
It currently has 20 CPU cores / 40 threads between it's twin Xeons, and yes they cost me a fortune but I don't need to run benchmarks to know it's fast anymore, never mind the fact that there's not many using Dual Xeon setups in their home systems, so there's nothing to compare to anyhow.
Most take the short term view and have to upgrade fairly often as a consequence, I take the decade long view where I hardly touch the setup, except adding more memory, or swapping CPU's which is ridiculously easy without touching anything else in the setup or needing to reformat and re install everything......
Call me when there's a setup that is twice as fast as a 36 core / 72 thread one, assuming applications eventually become too slow on this one.......Odds are it might happen sometime next decade, but i'm not holding my breath here....
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Dude, most of those builds are sponsored. Hence the logos.
Or its done for a hobby. It has nothing to do with functionality. After a month of use none of those builds are going to look like that. I for one couldn't care less.Originally posted by ManglerGood work guys, we can't have too many positive posts in a row on this forum.
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Originally posted by BababooeyHTJ View PostDude, most of those builds are sponsored. Hence the logos.
Or its done for a hobby. It has nothing to do with functionality. After a month of use none of those builds are going to look like that. I for one couldn't care less.
True, but they still look awesome just the same.....As for me, I don't plan on changing anything anytime soon as you'd imagine, so it's been quite a while already since I put it together, and still looks the same way....
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Originally posted by shadow001 View Postwith the means to handle up to 36 CPU cores / 72 threads, up to 1 TB of ram ( yes, 1000 GB), and fully handle 4 video cards in quad crossfire or SLI, as well as spare PCI-e slots and available lanes to swap for faster SSD controllers as new technology is developed.....It can stand the test of time and then some.
It currently has 20 CPU cores / 40 threads between it's twin Xeons, and yes they cost me a fortune but I don't need to run benchmarks to know it's fast anymore, never mind the fact that there's not many using Dual Xeon setups in their home systems, so there's nothing to compare to anyhow.
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Originally posted by shadow001 View PostTrue, but they still look awesome just the same.....As for me, I don't plan on changing anything anytime soon as you'd imagine, so it's been quite a while already since I put it together, and still looks the same way....
Check out what you can do with 3 years of careful neglect, mixed with a few periodic upgrades.
Rock'n a 4790K + 32 GB DDR3 + 980Ti in that puppy and she is look'n better than ever.
P.S. I know what your thinking... is that IDE DVD-RW up top actually hooked up? Answer is yes. Got a sweet IDE to USB 3.0 adapter on it; also works great for rescuing data off old drives.THG is to computer hardware what MTV is to music.
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It's nice to see a normal people PC instead of those 'look at my e-pen0s' PCOriginally posted by jimjobobIf 3 fans left the station at 10:30am cooling at a temp of 63c and one fan was derailed by a stray sata cable on the track, how long would it take all 3 fans to get on Seyiji's last nerve?
(a) Mmmm donuts
(b) 70c
(c) Hey there muscly arms, why the long face?
(d) Must use fire.
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Originally posted by dreamwalker View PostI think the qualification for 'normal people' PC should include the case being fully closed at the very least
I would, however, guess that most normal computers aren't spec'd as high, though you might think differently if you get your idea of normal from these forums.THG is to computer hardware what MTV is to music.
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aviphysics does work with pcs for a living. I totally get why he wouldn't want to spend his off time primping his.
Originally posted by aviphysics View PostI would, however, guess that most normal computers aren't spec'd as high, though you might think differently if you get your idea of normal from these forums.Originally posted by ManglerGood work guys, we can't have too many positive posts in a row on this forum.
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Originally posted by AdamK47 View PostNice setup.
What's the deal with the exhaust fans?AMD Ryzen 7 5800X | Fractal Design Celsius S24 AIO | Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite | 2 x 16GB G.SKILL Ripjaws V DDR4-3200 (14-14-14-34) B-Die | MSI 3080 VENTUS 3X OC 10G | Creative Sound Blaster Z | Samsung 970 EVO 500GB M.2 NVMe SSD | WD Black SN750 1TB M.2 NVMe SSD | Samusng 850 Evo 500GB SSD | Seagate Barracuda 2TB | WD 640GB Black | Asus BW-12B1ST 12X Blu-ray Burner | Fractal Design Define R5 case | EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G2 PSU | Win 10 Pro | 4K w/Hisense 55" U8H Mini LED Quantum ULED 4K TV
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It's not even about high spec, its about at least closing your pc door. Half your stuff is outside the case and needless to say the dust. Maybe I have ocd, but that is just dirty and dusty and messy. That's almost like saying oh my car isn't fancy so let it be a mess in and out.Under construction
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